[Q] Partition Size - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
i just installed Titanum Backup on my Captivate and it says:
System Rom: 289 MB (40 MB free)
i don't know why is showing this i thought that our captivate has 2 GB ROM !
Now i just have 40 mb left and i dont know where are my 2 GB...
Thx

Look one more line down. See where it says the Internal is 2.01GB (or something close to that number). That's the 2GB you're referencing.

thx, i know that, so what System Rom means?
why if the System Rom gets full i can not install more apps? its just for the OS?

It is just for the OS and anything you install as a system app. When you download a program from the market it goes to the Internal.

cas0404 said:
thx, i know that, so what System Rom means?
why if the System Rom gets full i can not install more apps? its just for the OS?
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ROM = READ ONLY MEMORY
Yes, OS and some system apps. Not ones you download from market or other sources.
It's actually Electronically Erasable Programable Read Only Memory in old tech speak, EEPROM, which doesn't need a battery to keep info. It's what you 'flash' when you run minikies, odin, etc.
All the applications and data you add are stored in another type of static memory (internal or on an sdcard) that also doesn't need a battery to keep info.
To actually run programs, they get loaded from the previous types of memory into faster random access memory (RAM or ' system memory')
that only works when battery power is available. When you reboot your phone, typically by turning its offer and on, the RAM is cleared of any memory. You can't also check ram usage and free up parts of ram with task manager. Press and hold the home key and you wlll get a button for task manager. Click it, then select the RAM tab and you will see.
You've got all of those types of memory in the captivate.
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laughingT said:
ROM = READ ONLY MEMORY
Yes, OS and some system apps. Not ones you download from market or other sources.
It's actually Electronically Erasable Programable Read Only Memory in old tech speak, EEPROM, which doesn't need a battery to keep info. It's what you 'flash' when you run minikies, odin, etc.
All the applications and data you add are stored in another type of static memory (internal or on an sdcard) that also doesn't need a battery to keep info.
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The /system (ROM) partition is on the same nand as /data (internal storage, where user apps are installed) and /sdcard, they're not separate types. Just mounted differently, you need superuser permission to remount the "ROM" partition read/write

Duh! Of course, it's all on the one 16 GB ROM. And then there is the 1/2 GB of RAM.
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Please help: i have Diamond STORAGE FULL problem!

Hello..
its my first time to use windows mobile i have HTC diamond WM6.1 original htc rom..
my diamond shows :
ONLY! 6 MB free of 80.3 MB in phone Storage
and 1.7 GB free of 3.67 in Internal Storage
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is that normal ?
i think the problem with the phone storage !
only 6 MB free !! thats really too little and slows my phone down!
although :
- i install all programs on Internal 4GB Storage
- all camera photos and all music on Internal 4GB storage
i dont know why its low space and i dont know how to clean it !!
any help ?
no any fix.. ?
right click the storage using file explorer on your PC. Click search.
In the search criteria specify all files (including hidden files) over 1MB or 1000KB and hit search. See what files come up. Delete unnecessary files or move to internal storage if files required.
Try clearing the opera cache and/or the google maps cache if you have an older version of google maps which stores the cache in phone memory.
New versions of google maps can be installed to internal storage and will put the cache there aswell...
supersanj
i did what u said and i found alot of strange files to me, but how to know if there are necessary or not for windows !! ..
Just leave the files where they are will you? I wouldn't be suprised if you install all your programs to main memory instead of internal storage, I'm also pretty sure you got some sort of theme installed
i install all programs on "internal storage" memory not "device" memory..

Set Install Location For FroYo

Found This App on XDA Portal today. Havent tested yet but im about to.
EDIT: I tested with google skymap, I set the app to install to internal storage and it stil installed to sd. Although the option to move to phone was now open and worked! I dont think that option worked before. I could be wrong
Original Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720739
JD82 said:
This is a first, simple, beta. But it should still work.
It is already included in ROM [Froyo] DJ DROID v1.0-R1 BETA - with HTC Sense - HD 720p - base 2.04.
Requirements:
root
froyo
USB debugging (Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Developement -> Check USB debugging. Thx pexon).
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Does this still keep the dalvik files on the faster internal storage?, i've been looking for such a solution.
*M* said:
Does this still keep the dalvik files on the faster internal storage?, i've been looking for such a solution.
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not certain, give feedback.
I tested with google skymaps because i know it likes to install to sd with froyo. So I set it to install to internal memory before installing skymaps and it still installed to sd. Although it did open up the option to move to phone in application settings and that worked!!
I dont think that option worked before installing this app. Could be wrong
I tried the tool also.
After setting the option to install to SD I installed the IMDB tool and PicSay.
Both gave the error 'Application was not installed'. When I switched it to internal memory, they installed just fine.
However I don't see the option to move a program. I'm looking in Settings>Application settings>Manage applications and then selecting a tool. The 'Move to SD card' is not available, not for the old tools I installed as for the both tools I did after installing this setinstalllocation tool.
Any bright ideas?
The SD card is formatted with several partitions to make it all run so I don't know why it won't work.
by default isnt the .apk designed to install in certain locations either NAND or SD. depending on where the programmer desires to have it put?
I've been using this for some weeks and it's just great.
xmfreak said:
I've been using this for some weeks and it's just great.
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Can you give any examples of programs you used it for and to which location you moved it?

Only able to use 1gb for Apps

My phone is showing that I have at least another gb of storage where my apps are stored. However, I can't use any more storage for apps. It maxed out at 1gb for apps. How do I enable more space other than moving apps to my ext sd?
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BubbleSort said:
My phone is showing that I have at least another gb of storage where my apps are stored. However, I can't use any more storage for apps. It maxed out at 1gb for apps. How do I enable more space other than moving apps to my ext sd?
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What exactly do you mean "it maxed out at 1gb for apps"? Are you getting the Insufficient Space error when trying to install apps? If so, try this: Manage Applications/All/Market/Uninstall Updates/Clear Cache and if that doesn't work also Clear Data.
Good luck.
Also, many people have success by simply ignoring the error message and retrying the install.
Is uninstalling updates and deleting caches to clear space? My phone has plenty of space but I can't seem to use it.
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BubbleSort said:
Is uninstalling updates and deleting caches to clear space? My phone has plenty of space but I can't seem to use it.
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No, those are steps that have worked in the past to prevent getting the "Insufficient Space" error when trying to download and install apps from the market.
Geezer Squid said:
What exactly do you mean "it maxed out at 1gb for apps"? Are you getting the Insufficient Space error when trying to install apps? If so, try this: Manage Applications/All/Market/Uninstall Updates/Clear Cache and if that doesn't work also Clear Data.
Good luck.
Also, many people have success by simply ignoring the error message and retrying the install.
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I just had this error last evening (insufficient space). I did just what you suggested, and it worked the second time. Curious.....
Thank you. Your suggestion worked. The weirdest thing is that Android is now reporting more storage.
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[Q] Problem with updating apps in Market (insufficient space)

Hello,
Some of the apps in Play Market are saying that I have insufficient space when I try to update them.
At the same time, some apps update successfully, while others report about insufficient space.
For example:
Samsung Print Service Plugin - 10,42 MB - insufficient
Asphalt 8 - some small update slightly bigger than 10 MB - successfully update.
Revolt Classic - 114 MB app, update for 30 MB. Downloaded and updated without any problems
Facebook - 10+ MB. - insufficient
At the same time - update which is 100% of an app's size report about insufficient space, even when it's only 10 MB, while updates which are a smaller than the whole app, but are twice or more times bigger then those small updates - are installing just fine
Device memory - free 493 MB.
SD card - free 4.98 GB
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I read somewhere that Samsung devices (or was it Android devices overall) have some limits for particular memory partitions so to say (cache, data, etc). And even when overall device's memory will have enough free space to install apps, it may report insufficient space due to overlimit of some memory partitions. Not sure how accurate I am saying this.
I tried looking at ADB to figure that out, but without much luck:
I tried clearing Cache partition from stock 3e recovery, but it behaves strangely - at first I see Android robot lying with red triangle or exclamation mark, and then the phone restarts itself. Dunno if it was successful.
I have an all stock firmware with root and reflashed stock recovery.
Do you have any ideas why does it behave this way?
Im having those problems when my free phone memory drops below 500 MB. Have you tried to delete unused apps and having over 500 MB free trying to update them again?
Maybe some stuff from those updates are automatically installing on sd card? Idk
from S4 Active Blue Ocean
I was just able to install a new game, which is 150+ MB, but am still unsable to update an app which is less than 2 MBs... Very strange.
I don't think it's really an actual free memory size's problem, and rather some part of it...
Try clearing data from Google Play Services.
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[Q] How partitions works?

Hello XDA, really sorry for any confusion here, my english isn't that good...
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As you can see in the screenshots above, I can't understand how partitions really works, I have ~985 MB of free /cache storage, ~500 MB free /system storage, and 1.1 GB on /data, this according to Partition Table App. A total of 2.5 GB of free storage.
But in the other hand, in my settings, I only have 1.1 GB of free storage(this I think would be /data).
I'am aware that partitions are somewhat limited, but I really have 2.5 GB of free storage? Moving apps to /system is the best option for more usable free storage?
And if I have almost 1 GB of free cache storage, why do i receive warnings about apps not going to work when I reaches ~900 MB of free storage in /data?
djlucask said:
Hello XDA, really sorry for any confusion here, my english isn't that good...
As you can see in the screenshots above, I can't understand how partitions really works, I have ~985 MB of free /cache storage, ~500 MB free /system storage, and 1.1 GB on /data, this according to Partition Table App. A total of 2.5 GB of free storage.
But in the other hand, in my settings, I only have 1.1 GB of free storage(this I think would be /data).
I'am aware that partitions are somewhat limited, but I really have 2.5 GB of free storage? Moving apps to /system is the best option for more usable free storage?
And if I have almost 1 GB of free cache storage, why do i receive warnings about apps not going to work when I reaches ~900 MB of free storage in /data?
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With internal & system memory mixed as in the current motos w/o SD cards, it is all the same "pool" of storage. Also fstrim is now keeping that memory clean & defragmented.
aviwdoowks said:
With internal & system memory mixed as in the current motos w/o SD cards, it is all the same "pool" of storage. Also fstrim is now keeping that memory clean & defragmented.
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Thanks for the reply.
So, the internal memory is placed dynamically, so I can use all the space?
djlucask said:
Thanks for the reply.
So, the internal memory is placed dynamically, so I can use all the space?
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That is how I understand it and the actual behavior confirms this.

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