I've had my tilt for a little over two years now and it seems the hardware has finally gave in. About two weeks back, the phone repeatedly got got stuck in a white screen when returning from sleep mode (as identified here: search "white screen issue"). I chose to dismantle the phone and replace the flex cable with one I had salvaged from my friend's dead tilt. Fortunately the white screen went away. In turn, I lost the use of the memory card slot, the touchscreen functionality only worked in landscape mode, and worst of all my sim card is no longer identified. Trying to revert back to my old tilt's flex cable gave me a empty screen all together. My question is, whether I should purchase both a new flex cable and screen or whether a flex cable alone will do? Moreover should I take a chance and dismantle an old tilt sold on eBay? Or just buy a new cable shipped all the way from China as there seems to be no US sellers? Any and all advice is welcome.
Sounds like you may have a loose/bad connection plug, need to recheck assembly.
The old ribbon probably failed completely due to extra stress during dissembly.
Parts from china are mostly copy parts & the quality is normally awful, buying a salvalge phone is a good option if price is right.
For sure a few forum members will have Kaiser spares.
Mister B said:
Sounds like you may have a loose/bad connection plug, need to recheck assembly.
The old ribbon probably failed completely due to extra stress during dissembly.
Parts from china are mostly copy parts & the quality is normally awful, buying a salvalge phone is a good option if price is right.
For sure a few forum members will have Kaiser spares.
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Thanks for the response, but I disassembled time and again to check the connectors with the utmost care mind you . After some thought, I decided the salvage phone was not a a good option as those may have severe wear on the cable as well and I'm not willing to wait around for a week for the item to arrive to find its dysfunctional (or nearing its fate). Fortunately, I found a legitimate eBay seller in NY who has the new flex cable. Hopefully if the phone recovers, I will update for those who might come upon this thread and have found themselves in a similar situation.
Hello,
I have recently bought nexus one and now randomly I have problems with the screen - I click on one place and it does something totally differently. It is fixed if I turn off and on screen. Before posting the question I did do my homework - I found this
- Q5: Sometimes my screen registers touches in incorrect places, and I need to turn the phone off and on to make it work correctly again
A: This is a hardware problem, nothing can be done about it. Nexus One's digitizer sucks.
in FAQ and found out that screen can't be calibrated. Now the questions that I have are:
1) Do all of the nexus ones have this issue? Would you advice me to return the phone and get a different model or replace for the same model (I already have bought screen protectors and case).
2) How often does this happen?
3) Is this a truly a hardware issue or software issue?
If this is a hardware issue - can it be fixed by software (e.g. by restarting the driver for the digitizer every minute or something like that...). I've read somewhere on this forum (or on a different one) that motorola had similar issues and they have released a patch that has fixed the issue
4) Are their any hopes it will get fixed in future releases?
5) People who have the same phone - how often do you have to turn off and on it (the screen - not reboot)?
Any other issues I should be aware of?
About the phone - its android 2.3.4
1) Yes. Some are more affected, some are less, all have it. It also depends on a zillion of factors - including climate, average finger moisture, etc.
2) See answer 1.
3) I've never looked at the code, but Nexus One is out for a year. If it was possible to fix - I'd bet it would have been done by now.
4) See answer 3.
5) See answer 1.
You've done your homework, but still came to ask "just in case". Well, the answers didn't change for the last 1/2 year.
Thank you for the quick answer.
If all the phones have this issue - why people are still using them? Or this is something they have just got used to? Also I understand that the frequency is different for everybody, but can I please have some numbers? Its one thing if it does it once a day or once a week and totally different if it does it every hour or every 15 minutes of use... Can you please let me know how often it does it for your phone? Also are you using screen protector? Is there any corolation between screen protector and and frequency?
Screen protector is known to cause less sensitivity and less responsive screen, which might account for some of the trouble.
People got used to it.
It mostly depends on the moisture and heat - the hotter the phone, the more likely is the screen to fail. Without moisture and with casual use it'll fail once a day or so. When playing a game, it can fail more than once an hour.
stillwater2 said:
Thank you for the quick answer.
If all the phones have this issue - why people are still using them? Or this is something they have just got used to? Also I understand that the frequency is different for everybody, but can I please have some numbers? Its one thing if it does it once a day or once a week and totally different if it does it every hour or every 15 minutes of use... Can you please let me know how often it does it for your phone? Also are you using screen protector? Is there any corolation between screen protector and and frequency?
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It happens to all nexus ones, its a hardware problem. But it only happens about once or twice a week, so most people just live with it. Just turning off then on the screen fixes it, so only takes a second to clear the error.
Also heat seems to cause it, particularly when its charging.
I go weeks without ever seeing the issue. Other times I see it once a week. It sucks but not a huge deal really.
Hi guys,
Just a quick question.... if this problem is hardware and relates to the digitizer then is it worth just replacing the digitizer?
I notice you can purchase a replacement digitizer on eBay.
Is it worth a try? And if so, is the N1 easy to take apart?
I've taken other phones apart and repaired them so have some experience.
If you replace it all you're doing is waisting your time. It will be the same thing. It is not like the digitizer is broken/failing or anything. It just sucks. Its not broken. Better way of thinking of it is a hardware limitation.
Hi guys,
Well, not wanting to be beaten by this screen problem, having suffered for over a year, I decided to take the plunge and buy a new digitizer off eBay. Cost about £20.
Found a couple of vids on Youtube which show you how to take the phone apart etc.
Two months on and all working fine. Not one single screen issue since replacing the digitizer.
Now a VERY happy Nexus One owner. Just wish Vodafone or HTC could have done the same thing on anyone of those four occasions I sent the phone for repair!!!
Now also running the MIUI custom OS... what a fantastic OS!!
Well, I'm pretty surprised no one filed class action suit against Google or HTC for supplying faulty digitizers on Nexus One
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jamjam11 said:
Hi guys,
Well, not wanting to be beaten by this screen problem, having suffered for over a year, I decided to take the plunge and buy a new digitizer off eBay. Cost about £20.
Found a couple of vids on Youtube which show you how to take the phone apart etc.
Two months on and all working fine. Not one single screen issue since replacing the digitizer.
Now a VERY happy Nexus One owner. Just wish Vodafone or HTC could have done the same thing on anyone of those four occasions I sent the phone for repair!!!
Now also running the MIUI custom OS... what a fantastic OS!!
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wow! which seller did you buy it from? is it an OEM part or third party? was the multi-touch issue fixed e.g. X-Y axis all over the place when fingers come too close together? does it now register more than 2 fingers?
The seller on eBay was e_cell. Search for this item to see the digitizer I purchased: 190567591678
It was listed as: 'GENUINE HTC NEXUS ONE G5 TOUCH SCREEN DIGITIZER + TOOLS'
I used a video on YouTube to dismantle the phone and insert the new digitizer.
Search YouTube for 'Google Nexus One Screen Replacement & Take Apart Directions'
Sorry I haven't include direct links but the forum wouldn't let me.
Note: Once I'd taken the phone apart I ran a warm hairdryer over the old digitizer in order to soften the glue that holds it in the frame of the phone. Then I slowly eased the old digitizer out of the frame and inserted the new one. The original adhesive in the frame will hold the new digitizer in place.
Tip: Make sure you remove any dust or finger prints from the new digitizer before reassembling the phone. You'll kick yourself if you forget to do this as they will be visible on the inside of the digitizer and it will drive you mad! I made this mistake and had to take the phone apart again to clean it up. DOH!
jamjam11 said:
The seller on eBay was e_cell. Search for this item to see the digitizer I purchased: 190567591678
It was listed as: 'GENUINE HTC NEXUS ONE G5 TOUCH SCREEN DIGITIZER + TOOLS'
I used a video on YouTube to dismantle the phone and insert the new digitizer.
Search YouTube for 'Google Nexus One Screen Replacement & Take Apart Directions'
Sorry I haven't include direct links but the forum wouldn't let me.
Note: Once I'd taken the phone apart I ran a warm hairdryer over the old digitizer in order to soften the glue that holds it in the frame of the phone. Then I slowly eased the old digitizer out of the frame and inserted the new one. The original adhesive in the frame will hold the new digitizer in place.
Tip: Make sure you remove any dust or finger prints from the new digitizer before reassembling the phone. You'll kick yourself if you forget to do this as they will be visible on the inside of the digitizer and it will drive you mad! I made this mistake and had to take the phone apart again to clean it up. DOH!
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I would love to know what sort of problems did the new digitizer fix?
My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
wait so a new digitizer fixed the issue?
so theres a different version of this digitizer?
or is the model and product number still the same?
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My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
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sweet! I have the exactly the same issue! so yeah...i'll replace the digitizer. thanks!
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jamjam11 said:
My problem was when I touched one area of the screen another area would respond.
So a screen calibration issue.
It was most noticeable when texting. For example I'd press a key on the top row of keys and a key on the bottom row would respond.
A work around was to press the power button to put the phone into standby and press it again to continue using the phone. Sadly the problem would always come back.
I'd also have problems selecting App icons. I'd press one and another would respond.
I asked both Vodafone and HTC to swap out the screen but all they ever did was flash the rom or say they couldn't find any problem.
The issue I had is well documented on the internet.
So glad I never gave up on this.
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Do you have the part number of this new digitizer you replaced? it turn out there are a number of OEM parts with different parts number
Unfortunately I can't state the part number as I don't have that information.
I simply searched eBay for a digitizer and looked for a good seller who appeared to be trusted and had a good feedback rating.
I'd bought from 'e_cell' before and knew they provided a good service.
All along I knew I was taking a gamble when buying the digitizer but the problem with the phone was so annoying I decided it was my last hope to get the thing working properly.
I've had the phone close to a year and a half, and during that time its spent most of its life either away for repair (Vodafone or HTC) or sitting in its box because I refused to use it. Instead I bought myself a second hand iPhone 3G off eBay to get by. Things were made worse by the fact I am tied into a two year contract with Vodafone.
So trying a new digitizer was my last throw of the dice, so to speak.
And the fact it worked is brilliant. I still feel this phone (Nexus One) is the best phone I've had, and I've had quite a few.
Please remember... if you decide to do what i did then see it as a gamble. There are no guarantees in life.
Oh, and be real careful when taking the phone apart and reassembling. It's not particularly hard but there is always a risk you may damage something. So be warned.
jamjam11 said:
Unfortunately I can't state the part number as I don't have that information.
I simply searched eBay for a digitizer and looked for a good seller who appeared to be trusted and had a good feedback rating.
I'd bought from 'e_cell' before and knew they provided a good service.
All along I knew I was taking a gamble when buying the digitizer but the problem with the phone was so annoying I decided it was my last hope to get the thing working properly.
I've had the phone close to a year and a half, and during that time its spent most of its life either away for repair (Vodafone or HTC) or sitting in its box because I refused to use it. Instead I bought myself a second hand iPhone 3G off eBay to get by. Things were made worse by the fact I am tied into a two year contract with Vodafone.
So trying a new digitizer was my last throw of the dice, so to speak.
And the fact it worked is brilliant. I still feel this phone (Nexus One) is the best phone I've had, and I've had quite a few.
Please remember... if you decide to do what i did then see it as a gamble. There are no guarantees in life.
Oh, and be real careful when taking the phone apart and reassembling. It's not particularly hard but there is always a risk you may damage something. So be warned.
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Thank you for the information, so it turn out nexus one have quite a number of unresolved issues. I was wondering why didn't big G did not order product recall for people with faulty digitizer?
I looked around and found that a number of users have having all kind of issues after replacing the digitizer. Geez...what should I do? Perhaps I should take it to a professional phone repair shop?
poor reception
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961274
broken digitizer connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904013
replacement experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797203
Well, luckily for me no problems as yet (though never say never!).
The most important thing when taking the phone apart is to take your time, and memorise where everything is located. Be firm but not heavy handed. There are some delicate parts inside the phone so you have to be careful.
Common sense really.
I've had no issues with signal strength. I get HSDPA most of the time, or standard 3G. My data (internet) is working fine and so is GPS.
Inside the phone there are a couple of connectors that control signal so you have to be careful and make sure if they disconnect that you reconnect them again properly.
I build and repair computers and laptops. If you've ever taken a laptop apart that has wireless LAN capability then you'll know there are specific wires which connect the antenna to the motherboard. The same applies in the N1 but on a smaller scale.
Good luck to anyone who tries this!
does anyone from the UK have a source to get a new digitizer from that fixes the heat related issue?
ebay has one for £22.50 (id: 10goodseller2012), and i'm almost ready to click BUY, just want to see if anyone else has more info before i 'blindly' click buy...
edit: i should add, 'e_cell' seller no longer has the N1 digitizers listed...
No matter what anybody says, replacing the digitizer itself won't fix the issue. It is deeper than that. It is the digitizer mixed with the onboard hardware to interpret the digitizer inputs. Usually it ends up just being heat related. I haven't had the issue with my phone for awhile, but that is because it doesn't get as hot as it used to with older versions of CM, but if I have it in the sun, in my car dock, using GPS, it will freak out all the time.
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No matter what anybody says, replacing the digitizer itself won't fix the issue. It is deeper than that. It is the digitizer mixed with the onboard hardware to interpret the digitizer inputs. Usually it ends up just being heat related. I haven't had the issue with my phone for awhile, but that is because it doesn't get as hot as it used to with older versions of CM, but if I have it in the sun, in my car dock, using GPS, it will freak out all the time.
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i too was sceptical, and i still am.
however, I've replaced the digitizer and so far it's perfect! i'm not sure it's placebo as i could get it todo it 100% of the time.
prior to ordering the new digitizer, i ran tests to see at what temp ranges the screen would play up - according to the battery temp (Battery Monitor Widget), it will play up over 40c.
what i SUSPECT is the fix, is the digitizer i bought is a newer hardware revision than the one i had. the new digitizer did come with it's own chip on the flexible PCB.
i did mean to write down the new digitizer number and compare from the old one to see if they have revised it - alas, i forgot to get the new number. (old one is 940-473-1r5)
its been installed for almost 2 hours now, and on test for around an hour to build up heat - screen on full, camera on, GPS on (using aLapRecorder HD) and it's perfect. before i could guarantee a problem with screen dimmed, camera on, GPS off, so early impressions are good!
I'll give it a proper test tonight on the way home from work - it'll have the windscreen blower aswell..
Well, I guess is not so ethical what Im going to ask...
But, last mont my phone touchscreen stopped responding, going to service, 15 days without phone, phone working fine again.
After less than a week, touchscreen stop working again, back to service, phone working again.
What happen yesterday? touchscreen isnt working again
I wont deal with an obviously faulty phone again.
So, I want to kill it completely. I dont know if there is a way to kill even fastboot, but if anyone can help me, It will be great. Looks like it's the only way to get a proper replacement from moto
Doesn't sound like a good idea, , They'll proooooobably know if you been messing with it.
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I wont deal with an obviously faulty phone again.
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So don't... Tell them what kind of hassle you've already been through and that you want a replacement. If you have insurance, break the screen. Usually they don't ask what happened but if they do tell them your a contractor and you were doing some heavy lifting and it broke in your pocket.
Thanks for your answers.
Im not in the US. Here moto can hold your phone in repair for a maximum of 3 months
They dont care if you are dealing with service for the second or third time.
I guess I´ll use the hard way. It wont be so difficult
A buddy at work is a real phone whore and like to get a new one every few month. he takes a car battery and 2 wires and touches the battery contacts on the phone to fry the board.
Just touch it for a second or you'll get burn marks. Phone will be DEAD and there is no way for them to tell you did it...
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A buddy at work is a real phone whore and like to get a new one every few month. he takes a car battery and 2 wires and touches the battery contacts on the phone to fry the board.
Just touch it for a second or you'll get burn marks. Phone will be DEAD and there is no way for them to tell you did it...
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crispy Droid 3 ..
here in mexico, my mom had a motorola cliq that had problems with the board (it crashed even after wipe without modding) sent it back returned (they just reflashed it) happened again and sent it back and they just reflashed it. this time i rooted and updated firmware. but anyway it failed again. sent it back (with sbf of original ) the they just re flashed the unit..
one more time it went back and for the most time (3 weeks ) it was well
on every call to support i told them that the problem was the board in the phone.
one fourth time sent it back and finally got the board replaced ... (this time imei was different but housing was the same.
i was very happy until i noted they closed the phone housing badly wrong .. but it was working. then it failed again but this time it was a new error. keyboard lights died because of a FRIED Sensor. but it was working.
but as using it at night was impossible. i returned it and as i had sent it back so many times they changed my phone (my mom didnt want another Motorola for now) for a Nokia N97 (i'm talking 2 years ago when android wasn't as popular as it is today.
today. my mom still has that phone. always trustworthy Nokia phone.
anyway wht im saying is that keep sending it back until they change at least the board or the screen.. but well
have you tried reflashing?
Hello guys I was wandering any of you can help me with a problem.
Ok so I have a LG thrill AT&T the digitizer is damage so I replace it did everything just fine take it apart carefully making sure I didnt break any thing anyway this not the first tim I change a digitizer did a lot of the on different Phone However with this Thrill after I carefully put it back together making sure everything is fine and plugin now the Phone will not power up all I get is the the little vibrating when I turn it on and it's light up I even put a sim in it and try to call it dont even ring took it back apart about three time and check everything nothing crack or broken the LCD looks fine no crack in that digitizer is brand new now of the ribbon is brooken still nothing anyone can help me out I would be greatful has to what to try next
Sounds like you are going into emg mode e.g. vol up and power.
If the phone is off and you plug it into your computer do you get the charging screen?
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My nephew owns an LG THRILL 3D P925 from AT&T. He dropped it and broke the digitizer resulting in huge spider cracks. So, for his birthday I decided to be a great uncle purchase a digitizer online.
I received a P920 replacement digitizer. I was told this would be compatible with the phone by the company I purchased it from.
Everthing went really well with the digitizer replacement as the process was pretty easy. However, when I attempt to power on the phone, I get a vibration with zero activity from the LCD.
At first I thought that I somehow ripped the LCD cable or the digitizer cable; however, after close inspection, I do not see any flaws in either cables or their respective connection points.
I too feel like the phone is stuck in download mode. I wish I knew if the original poster has resolved their issue, and I would not mind continuing the discovery process on how to fully troubleshoot this with you John if you would oblidge. I did not think it would be beneficial for me to start a new thread considering I am experiencing the exact same issue as the OP.
Thanks in advance for any assistance from Anyone!
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I don't think another post would get anymore attention
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No.
How about you just PM the person and ask?
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I work in a computer store where we replace lots and lots of screens and digitizers....it is not unheard of to get a bad one......I have seen at least three this year.....
Hi XDA,
I have an i9000 and a Captivate. One sad day last week, I dropped my captivate and cracked the screen . When plugged in or powered on, the 4 soft touch-keys at the bottom do light up and I can press them (they go dark as I press them, then light back up as they normally would).
I'm OK with paying $80 for a replacement screen/digitizer on ebay, as long as I know that will fix my phone. I'm worried that something else may be wrong internally?
Is there any way to check the functionality of the phone (perhaps through ADB?) or something I can do without having the screen turn on to prove that this phone will still work once I buy a new screen?
Thanks
Usually it is just due to the fact that the LCD is broken and can't display anything, at least that's what I would assume. You can try adb but that relies on the fact that you had usb debugging turned on beforehand. Another option would be to sell your cappy on eBay; broken phones can go for a decent amount, and you can find a new phone for a decent amount too.
Kops said:
Hi XDA,
I have an i9000 and a Captivate. One sad day last week, I dropped my captivate and cracked the screen . When plugged in or powered on, the 4 soft touch-keys at the bottom do light up and I can press them (they go dark as I press them, then light back up as they normally would).
I'm OK with paying $80 for a replacement screen/digitizer on ebay, as long as I know that will fix my phone. I'm worried that something else may be wrong internally?
Is there any way to check the functionality of the phone (perhaps through ADB?) or something I can do without having the screen turn on to prove that this phone will still work once I buy a new screen?
Thanks
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I would be more concerned about what could possibly get damaged or broke during the screen replacement more than what internal damage dropping it caused.
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I would be more concerned about what could possibly get damaged or broke during the screen replacement more than what internal damage dropping it caused.
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Same, I don't recommend doing a replacement like this unless you know what you are doing. You might put it all back together just to find that wifi or something else randomly is broken.
I found a captivate with broken charger port on Kijiji for $40, and used that one as a parts phone. Stole the screen, and everything works great again .
I am studying Computer Engineering, taking these things apart is right up my ally. Just didn't want to waste money for nothing =/
Thanks all
Kops said:
I found a captivate with broken charger port on Kijiji for $40, and used that one as a parts phone. Stole the screen, and everything works great again .
I am studying Computer Engineering, taking these things apart is right up my ally. Just didn't want to waste money for nothing =/
Thanks all
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Glad it worked out for you. Nice choice of major, that's going to be mine also.
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