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Can we remove the Bloat?

All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released

You will need root access and then use adb to remove apps.

Custom Rom on Motorola Milestone
How to load a custom ROM on your motorola milestone via the unlockr site on youtube was posted yesterday by sjones765, so there's still hope for us. I'm not allowed to paste links so this was the best I could do.

cooley_l said:
How to load a custom ROM on your motorola milestone via the unlockr site on youtube was posted yesterday by sjones765, so there's still hope for us. I'm not allowed to paste links so this was the best I could do.
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Well that's definitely good news... looking for it now...
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That's not what you're looking for. That's just about Nandroid backups - not ROMs. Nandroid backups are just a backup of your System, Data, etc. It lets you manipulate your current system but not flashing a ROM built from the source. (No update.zip's)

A noob on Android
Thnx for the edification Adam , went back to the unlockr and they said it was only for unlocked GSM phones. Thought maybe it was something we could use . Have a HD2 myself and with these forums help I've turned into a flashing junkie,easy with WinMo. I got alot more to learn.

I would also like to know if we can tweak the rom that Motorola gives us with the phone and then put it bake on with the proper signature...would this be possible???

No, not without some kind soul at Motorola giving us their key.

What particular do you wish to remove?
NFS shift can be removed.
Amazon mp3, Blockbuster, and City ID can't be easily removed.
I think I will just keep Skype Mobile.

To be honest, and this is my first android phone, there doesn't seem to be much bloat. I've pretty much ignored all of the motorola stuff and deleted all of the supplied widgets, replacing them with android ones. The only other stuff on there is a few apps. There isn't even any verizon stuff preinstalled, thank jebus.
I like City ID (very handy), and Skype mobile is useful sometimes. The blockbuster and amazon mp3 apps don't hurt me.

scooler said:
To be honest, and this is my first android phone, there doesn't seem to be much bloat. I've pretty much ignored all of the motorola stuff and deleted all of the supplied widgets, replacing them with android ones. The only other stuff on there is a few apps. There isn't even any verizon stuff preinstalled, thank jebus.
I like City ID (very handy), and Skype mobile is useful sometimes. The blockbuster and amazon mp3 apps don't hurt me.
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Yeah, I kind of agree. Outside of CityID, there's nothing I really hate and want to get rid of. Will I ever use Blockbuster or Amazon MP3 store? Probably not, but it doesn't really hurt me to see them on my app list.

How does one remove City ID? I couldn't find a way to do it.

Roland Deschain said:
How does one remove City ID? I couldn't find a way to do it.
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You can't remove Blockbuster, City ID, and Amazon mp3 without root.

SiXiam said:
You can't remove Blockbuster, City ID, and Amazon mp3 without root.
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Can you post instructions please?

tats_06 said:
Can you post instructions please?
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You can't root droid x's yet.
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City ID keeps popping up and asking me if I want to pay for it. I'd like to remove it, but don't see an option for that.
Is that even legal for them to install an extortionist virus on our phones without any way of removal?
I'd rather pay the dev who gets root on this phone.
Here's $10 to anyone who roots the Droid X.

That City ID app is totally uncalled for. But I always expect carriers to put garbage on phones.
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tats_06 said:
Can you post instructions please?
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Yeah you can't remove them yet, until we get root. I tried doing it with Astro, but it wouldn't let me.

I just demo'd one today at Verizon. There is sooooo much **** on there that I absolutely do NOT want on there. Why did they go so overboard with the UI? The DROID's is pretty vanilla. But damn if the X isn't too much for me..

MattKilla said:
I just demo'd one today at Verizon. There is sooooo much **** on there that I absolutely do NOT want on there. Why did they go so overboard with the UI? The DROID's is pretty vanilla. But damn if the X isn't too much for me..
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Like... what? Blockbuster, CityID, NFS Shift? I can't even think of anything else.

Yeah. There really isn't that much **** on there...
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How to rate and comment on apps from within there honeycomb market?

can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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IndivisibleP said:
can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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As of right now you can't.

I've noticed this too. There was one app that I was lookoing at once and it actually had little tabs at the top for comments, ratings and ect. Its weird it isn't for all of them.
My Xoom Sent This

I was trying to figure this out as well, its rediculous that you can't submit ratings on the tablet market app!
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My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.

Yeah the devs are seriously slacking at Facebook

Trillian has a ton of annoyances I'd love to comment on yet can't, so yeah it's pretty annoying.

dextroz said:
My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.
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Let's see you be smart enough to get employed by google then

If you use the web market, you can leave comments. That's what I have been doing.

No comments?
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But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!

Since honeycomb ecosystem is not yet evolved, they make it harder for zoom users to post bad comments and bad ratings. They did it on purpose. They were smart to do this in a sence. But it makes me hate their guts a bit.

dextroz said:
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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this is exactly the reason why. i suspect it will soon once they have a way of marking apps which are honeycomb optimized - and then you can comment on those apps
edit: if it bugs you log on to the market from a pc and you can post reviews there

badgerbun said:
WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!
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The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...

199724 said:
The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...
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I wouldn't say that... If developers want to go with the times, they can't simply ignore honeycomb. I'm sure they are thinking about it alright. I agree it's annoying... but just give it some time.

fyi... Load a phone account gmail that u have with a facebook app with... Then goto market and download your market apps from that phone acct... I have a working facebook widget on mine..

I use web browser, login to android market (from xoom), rate, leave comments... then i open market and i can leave, rate apps without browser!

Thunderbolt or LG revolution

So long story short my fascinate has turned into a thunderbolt and now I'm wondering if I should return it to get the revolution that comes out tomorrow. I took the thunderbolt right away since my favorite devs are already working on this phone, but it appears that the phone isn't very stable.
I haven't experience random reboots yet even after the phone applied a update right out of the box....I have experience some issues with the 4g staying connected although it seems to fix when I turn on and off the mobile data.
So I've already dealt with a binged phone before since I had the fascinate and that was fixed in the first month, my question is are there any other bolt users thinking the same thing after using the bolt?

My sig says no. sorry. nuh uh. nope.

bwhxeon said:
So long story short my fascinate has turned into a thunderbolt and now I'm wondering if I should return it to get the revolution that comes out tomorrow. I took the thunderbolt right away since my favorite devs are already working on this phone, but it appears that the phone isn't very stable.
I haven't experience random reboots yet even after the phone applied a update right out of the box....I have experience some issues with the 4g staying connected although it seems to fix when I turn on and off the mobile data.
So I've already dealt with a binged phone before since I had the fascinate and that was fixed in the first month, my question is are there any other bolt users thinking the same thing after using the bolt?
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I love my bolt, but... Lg Revolution

Love this phone....LG is garbage...u might see me bashing the phone...but I love it

Bing on an Android phone makes me lol. So that's a no from me. I know that it's "fixable" but why do it in the first place :/
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whewstoosae said:
Bing on an Android phone makes me lol. So that's a no from me. I know that it's "fixable" but why do it in the first place :/
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Google has nothing to do with that, VZW is the reason that Bing is becoming the new search engine for their phones. Why they would do something like that is beyond all of us...
But to answer the OP post, both phones are very much alike. There is a strong dev community for the TB already, where with the LG it's questionable. I haven't read up much about it but I don't know if it comes with a locked bootloader or not. If so, TB all the way, if not, I would say it's all about your personal preference.

g00s3y said:
Google has nothing to do with that, VZW is the reason that Bing is becoming the new search engine for their phones. Why they would do something like that is beyond all of us...
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I know this, it just sucks they want to further ruin the Google experience by belittling it with Bing, let alone all the crapware they install on the phone.
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i am also thinking about these two and i am just waiting on the dev section of the revolution to see how it is and if it can rival the dev section of the t bolt

Love my TB go with it bro LG looks like it loaded crappy stuff on it plus it has bing on it ewwwwk

I have a fascinate so I dealt with bing and u get over it quick and work arounds are made in like first or second day of release
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The revolution is garbage man...LG has a terrible track record for a reason...and GUI is just awfull I can't wait for the warranty issues with that piece **** coming into my store
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Honestly I see a lot of problems with the t BOLT RANDOM restarts and paint on back peeling and the lg ui is similar to touch wiz which I like a lot
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Ive owned one LG phone (env touch) and never will I buy another.. idk how many i went through and as far as the revolution goes I played with one today before they had a floor model out and damn its big.. I rmr ppl complaing that the tb was bulky but the revolution takes it to another level..

g00s3y said:
Google has nothing to do with that, VZW is the reason that Bing is becoming the new search engine for their phones. Why they would do something like that is beyond all of us...
But to answer the OP post, both phones are very much alike. There is a strong dev community for the TB already, where with the LG it's questionable. I haven't read up much about it but I don't know if it comes with a locked bootloader or not. If so, TB all the way, if not, I would say it's all about your personal preference.
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There are 500 Million reasons.
According to the Register, Microsoft has paid Verizon Wireless $500 million in a five-year search deal to make Bing its official search engine on most smart phones, like the BlackBerry Storm II.
Read more: http://www.hotmobilebuzz.com/2010/01/verizon-makes-deal-with-microsoft-bing.html#ixzz1NUZDFt82
http://www.hotmobilebuzz.com/2010/01/verizon-makes-deal-with-microsoft-bing.html

Shawn haz root said:
According to the Register, Microsoft has paid Verizon Wireless $500 million in a five-year search deal to make Bing its official search engine on most smart phones, like the BlackBerry Storm II.
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Yet verizon still insists on giving it to us up the ass with their rates and tethering policies

If you have problems with reboots, try flashing another radio. I did and the reboots stopped.

g00s3y said:
Google has nothing to do with that, VZW is the reason that Bing is becoming the new search engine for their phones. Why they would do something like that is beyond all of us...
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Not beyond all of us... Its because of THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR.
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from what i've seen, a dev community for the revolution has been nonexistent. i can't find one anywhere

Ok, I traded the Thunderbolt for the Revolution. I do not recommend the Revolution at all. First, it takes forever to charge (its about 25% as fast as the thunderbolt to charge). The default keyboard is garbage. It doesn't have the new Android market (uses a version of the market that was updated months ago) and is missing some apps that are normally on the market (in my case, it was missing one that I had paid for). There are some compatibility issues with some apps. It also lags occasionally( often lags when ending a phone call)
The major downfall for the Thunderbolt is its battery life, but that can be fixed with rooting and installing a custom rom. The Thunderbolt is a much better Android than the Revolution. The only thing the Revolution has going for it is that it comes preloaded with Netflix.
I will be trading in the Revolution within the 2 week period and trying out a new Android. Anyone know if Verizon has a limit on how many times you can trade a phone in within 2 weeks before they cut you off. If they don't have a limit, I will keep trading it in until the Bionic finally comes out.

I simply don't understand why anyone would chose the Revo when the Thunderbolt exists. The Charge I could understand for its screen and battery, but the Revo is inferior on almost every spec. It is a phone that was released out of sequence.

Words With Friends Honeycomb Released!

Edit: Used to be wtf happened to WWF.
Here is the apk.
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B Dizzle said:
So today WWF dropped support for our tablets. Show your support by going to Zynga.com and offering negative feedback. This same company many months ago promised a Honeycomb version of the app. Today 3.1 users can't download it in the market. With enough complaints maybe they will understand how many of us there are!
Edit: Here is a link to contact the developers. http://support.zynga.com/CP_ContactUs?gameid=0&loc=en_US
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Really? Because when they updated it about 3 weeks ago they said in the update notes an actual honeycomb release is coming very soon.
Early june is when they said it, again.

We are in July (couple hours).
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Take your tablet to the market and try and download it. Read it for yourself ... not the only place reporting this.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/06/28/words-with-friends-loses-support-for-android-honeycomb/

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Take your tablet to the market and try and download it. Read it for yourself ... not the only place reporting this.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/06/28/words-with-friends-loses-support-for-android-honeycomb/
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Yes, I noticed this several days ago, and i'm sure they removed it because they were sick of the low ratings since it didn't scale correctly.
The letters were cut off at the bottom so u could only see 3/4 of it, people kept down rating it because of that. E looked like F unless you physically moved the tile out to see the bottom.
And it still says this on the market page:
"We are actively working on improving the Words With Friends as much as possible. Players can look forward to expecting a Honeycomb version soon."
So like i said, I'm sure we will beable to download it again once it's fixed and an official tablet version is released. And yes, that update notification was a month ago like i said.

I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.

p2flol said:
Yes, I noticed this several days ago, and i'm sure they removed it because they were sick of the low ratings since it didn't scale correctly.
The letters were cut off at the bottom so u could only see 3/4 of it, people kept down rating it because of that. E looked like F unless you physically moved the tile out to see the bottom.
And it still says this on the market page:
"We are actively working on improving the Words With Friends as much as possible. Players can look forward to expecting a Honeycomb version soon."
So like i said, I'm sure we will beable to download it again once it's fixed and an official tablet version is released. And yes, that update notification was a month ago like i said.
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You are 0-2 my friend. Take a look at the reviews in the market. I went 20 deep and all bad reviews came from phone owners.
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B Dizzle said:
You are 0-2 my friend. Take a look at the reviews in the market. I went 20 deep and all bad reviews came from phone owners.
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What? Why are you being a ****, I'm just stating what ive seen. Ive been playing wwf since launch of the xoom and I have noticed bad reviews... Go easy... and yes I'm one of the several people that emailed them about the scaling issue and they didn't seem to want to fix it until they released an actual tablet optimized version... which is why I believed it was removed.
Chill out.

flippingout said:
I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.
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We need more productive thinking like that. Android is behind in the app/game market. iOS has some really well developed apps that we will never see unless we speak up.
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pretty sure it was removed from honeycomb market for the fact it was performing so terribly people were complaining. it'll be released within the next 2 weeks imo.

glyndal said:
pretty sure it was removed from honeycomb market for the fact it was performing so terribly people were complaining. it'll be released within the next 2 weeks imo.
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Yep, I hope the honeycomb one comes out soon like it says!

It was cut off at the bottom, but it was still playable. I don't see why they had to remove support while they get their act together for honeycomb.

I opened my app today and it says "An upgrade is available, click OK to upgrade" (no other options). I click OK and am redireted to the Market, where I am unable to upgrade because my device is no longer supported. I go back ot the app and am greeted with the same message telling me to "upgrade" with no "cancel" or "later" option, just "OK"
The box refuses to go away (back button doesn't work either) so I'm unable to play. This is utterly moronic.

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I opened my app today and it says "An upgrade is available, click OK to upgrade" (no other options). I click OK and am redireted to the Market, where I am unable to upgrade because my device is no longer supported. I go back ot the app and am greeted with the same message telling me to "upgrade" with no "cancel" or "later" option, just "OK"
The box refuses to go away (back button doesn't work either) so I'm unable to play. This is utterly moronic.
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It would become more of a priority to the developers if they see the number of Honeycomb users upset about this. Shoot them a quick email and let them know how you feel.
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Someone from a different forum suggested going to getjar to download it. It working on my unrooted xoom. I tried to post the link but it said I didn't have enough post to.

3.52 apk
Here's the latest 3.52 apk pulled from my hero. It works fine on my xoom (with the usual cropped bottom row), but at least I can still play until they get it sorted out.
If this is not allowed feel free to remove it, but as it's free in the market I see no issue posting it.
com.zynga.words-1.apk
If you have issues clicking on it then right click and save link as...

Thanks for the apk! Wish zynga would get it together.
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maybe they should take some of that one billion dollars and make us a tablet version

Maybe just me, but I'm waiting for a good version just for our phones much less for our tablets. Never have I seen such big companies release such buggy crap. Its pathetic. A tablet version would be awesome tho.
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flippingout said:
I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.
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Wanting more honeycomb apps is fine but make sure you complain to the right people. If zynga is for sure already working on a honeycomb version then bugging them is useless. Bug the companies or devs who haven't considered honeycomb yet. If the note zynga placed on the market isn't enough hopefully this youtube is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9sbOF_OcIw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Can't believe we were anxiously awaiting this..

Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.

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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.

I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.​

Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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leelaa said:
I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.

So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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sikagoon7 said:
4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.

Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:

I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.

What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.

I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.

Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:

Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!

[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?

PAGOT said:
Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Yes
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erica_renee said:
HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?