(Teaser) State of Vivid Development... - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

While we have all (Dev's, Cooks, themers & tweakers) seen the initial woes of the newer ICS code & it's effect on easily porting mods over, things are starting to come together. Deodexing & decompiling was a bear, until you figured it out that is, & even then a bit more time consuming than usual.
However, In a few short days I will have a good piece of news for all, including developers & users regarding some of the most desired tweaks & mods.
I have been busy reaching out to a few of the really good developers & begging & bribing my way into getting participation & a really nice tool as well as several mods will become available in a day or two.
I don't want to say too much, I really want the dev to get the credit & honor of officially announcing the goodies.
I know as this post currently stands, it is not development. It will be though, & will be renamed to the Vivid Collaborative Effort & will serve as a central repository & wiki for modifications & tweaks that I am working to get done, either myself or through the gracious help of a few really great Dev's that are in other forums.
So, don't think I'm not doing anything
BTW, Wild Child may not know it yet, but he will be back & PG & BC are next. Then we'll all hold hands, sing Kumbayah, drink lots of KoolAide & get everyone working happily together, taking our frustrations out on SGS2 users instead of fellow Holiday thread participants.
ALSO, Please take a moment & let me know what mods or goodies you see in other sections & I will work on either doing them myself or work on getting some support from the mod/tool/theme/tweak creator.
Thanks!

Hey GSLEON, Homeslice made a kickass battery percent mod for the ICS rom that he has on Wildchild's site. Not sure if he has plans to share it here but it'd be cool to create a flashable zip for those that desire it.
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Sense 4.0 would be great as opposed the Sense lite 3.6

The main thing I miss from the Inspire is the "tweaks" menu that was in a good number of ROMs. Like "RC Tweaks", "Virtuous tweaks, etc.

This is the kind of effort and leadership we need to get this development the momentum it needs. This is what XDA is about!
I would love to get the full HTC locations app as opposed to the footprints app. I like the premium navigation I purchased from HTC to work on Ics.
Can't wait to know what you got.
Keep up the good work!!!!
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Capychimp has done fantastic work on ICS including the first port, would love to see his APM and Setting tab for notification bar.
Oh and the music player that allows sound enhancements over BT.
Cheers
Jeff

Oh GSLEON you tease. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
The main thing I'm looking for is tethering unlocked. And extended power and quick menu. But I know you've been working on those. Oh yeah and a sense 4.0 port.
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Here's a rather difficult request but I would love to see an inverted messaging and people...
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It's CM9 isn't it?
Jk, but whatever it is sounds good.
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I just want to say Thank you for giving the VIVID family something to look forward to, with it being as quiet as it has been!

Please put the stupid Wi-Fi shortcut that newer Sense has deleted back into the Quick Settings menu.. jeez what a stupid thing to do, removing it.

markjo said:
Please put the stupid Wi-Fi shortcut that newer Sense has deleted back into the Quick Settings menu.. jeez what a stupid thing to do, removing it.
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+1, pointless idea.

How about some cool themes for ics like the ones made for the HTC Sensation by the Elagancia team...if im spelling that right. They haved themed the hell out of the HTC sensation...can we get some of that action on the vivid?...oh and of course above everything else a sense 4.0 port. I like the sense 3.6 but when you compare it to sense 4.0, it's like sense 3.6 is about 20 years old...LOL

+1 on the sense 4 port
Also lovely post ;D Glad to hear things are going to come back together !
And might as well ask... Does anyone have good links for me to start developing? Tutorials and such would be lovely Always wanted to start but never had time and i think it would be fun

bilibox said:
+1 on the sense 4 port
Also lovely post ;D Glad to hear things are going to come back together !
And might as well ask... Does anyone have good links for me to start developing? Tutorials and such would be lovely Always wanted to start but never had time and i think it would be fun
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There's a thread going in the general section about that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535556

All of this teasing is either making me think S-Off, CM9 or Sense 4.0 in that order.

I drool over the thought of aosp on my vivid
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omgzilla85 said:
I drool over the thought of aosp on my vivid
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+1 on this!!
or
Sense 4.0 pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease =D
....and crt animations ;D

DownTheCross said:
+1 on this!!
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Sense 4.0 pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease =D
....and crt animations ;D
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I have the slightest idea what "s-off" means if someone cares to explain that would be great. Sense 4.0 port would be major for the HTC Vivid..."with everything working of course" That could even raise the value of the handset itself...LOL

I don't get it. This device doesn't get the respect it deserves. The few roms we have to choose from are outstanding. And the hardware is up to par with other devices its age. Yeah we don't have s-off but as of now it's not needed.
To the devs supporting the vivid keep up the great work. Everything y'all do is greatly appreciated.
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Live Wallpapers

OK, I've noticed that the CDMA Hero's can get Live Wallpapers in Sense. Is it possible to make them work on the 'GSM' ones too?
You probably saw that on a phone with a custom rom, because the Hero can't pull off Rosie AND Live WP's running.
cdma heros are running 2.1 with sense + live wallpapers
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nprussel has done it again. He's got sense with live wallpapers running. Probably releasing it in rom 5.3. Got this info via twitter.
Guess we have to be patient for a few day's.
Pagan said:
nprussel has done it again. He's got sense with live wallpapers running. Probably releasing it in rom 5.3. Got this info via twitter.
Guess we have to be patient for a few day's.
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Actually nprussel hasn't done anything, zenulator & mssmision are the ones who have gotten live wallpaper's working on the hero CDMA which also works for the GSM with no additional changes.
I have already built a 2.1 sense rom with zenulator & mssmision ammended files and can confirm live wallpapers are working...
Best Regards,
Yes thats right, and Nathan has done some tweaking but given full credit where it was due. It is currently under Donators only testing (but is looking good from comments) and will probably be released as an option to the public in VillainRom 5.3
Edit: for the record the only downsides seem to be you lose full screen weather animations and you can't see thumbnails in the 3D gallery
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Actually nprussel hasn't done anything, zenulator & mssmision are the ones who have gotten live wallpaper's working on the hero CDMA which also works for the GSM with no additional changes.
I have already built a 2.1 sense rom with zenulator & mssmision ammended files and can confirm live wallpapers are working...
Best Regards,
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I'm not sure what your problem is, but I thought I'd at least make an effort to clear the air.
First of all, on topic - here are the facts:
- I did get Live Wallpapers working without the help of anyone. They were working before the guys over at CDMA fixed them. They were very slow though, causing huge slowdowns of Rosie & were barely functional.
- I opted to use someone else's openGL fix, as it proved to be far quicker and more stable than my own. Here's the quote from the VillainROM donator's forum:
"Thanks to MagnusRagnarok, jcase, zifnab & flipzmode over on the CDMA forums, the culprit (ie - reason Live Wallpapers weren't working with Sense UI) has been fixed and is within this file. "
See... there's no mention of it being my own work.
Slightly off topic now, but it needs saying.
Stickman,
I am getting sick to death of reading your snot-nosed comments about me. I have worked hard - harder than most to make the best 2.1 Sense UI ROM possible for the Hero; and I've done it persistently for the past three months.
I've put in an easy 20+ hours PER WEEK into developing since I began. If you've followed my progress, you'll know that I am always on the ball with fixes, and I always try to credit people where credit is due. The fact that I missed you from my credits when I ported your theme over to 2.1 was unfortunate, but hardly an absolute 'end of the world' disaster.
My advice to you would be:
Get over yourself...relax and drop the grudge you have against me. It's only making you look stupid; and I can tell that's something that you are not.
Now - can we forget about it and move on?
If you're the type that needs to get the last word in, then get the last word in. I really don't care. Just say what you need to say and then move on.
Thanks.
More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
nprussell said:
More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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Then and only then would I consider to use LWP
Nice
nprussell said:
More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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nprusell, thats great news I´m using your rom as my everyday rom and it´s great .. keep up the god work. Sad to see go over to the Desire team
I didn't actually state anywhere that you have not given credits to whom ever concerned, I am just saying that the work originated from zenulator and mssmision...
I would just like to point out the people you have mentioned have adapted their fixes and changes against mssmision's work, although not mentioned.
I do appreciate the fact that we are all joining together to further increase functionality and stability in any of the 2.1 builds developed...
No point jumping in and accusing me of the like, and c'mon that comment was hardly snotty, I used to own a HTC Kaiser and zenulator and mssmision were a big part of the vogue community who brought the vogue/kaiser to life again...
I really don't have any issue's with you at all, I apologise if it seems that way...
#edit: Also the unnecessary comments you made really isn't going to help clear anything if that is your intention, I understand you have put it in a lot of work as have most developers here at xda which is applauded and appreciated by your followers. My comment above still stands, I really don't have any issues with you at all.
I fully agree Stickman.
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More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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while you're at it, throw that flipclock in pretty please
t24ever said:
nprusell, thats great news I´m using your rom as my everyday rom and it´s great .. keep up the god work. Sad to see go over to the Desire team
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Glad I bought a Desire
tembares said:
Glad I bought a Desire
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Hehehhe i have to upgrade my Hero
nprussel 4 prez!
t24ever said:
Hehehhe i have to upgrade my Hero
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yeah. Me too. Strange world where nprussel gets a new phone and I feel compelled to do the same.... You'd think that the common sense on sites as these or the quality of support provided by manufacturers would influence my choice of phone...
But no, it is a man like nprussel that makes me consider buying the legend.....
That is a compliment! But strange it is.....

[Q] SenseCream

Do you think we will last long enough to taste icecream + sense on this phone .
<_< how bout we work on getting a fully working ICS rom before we think about ways of slowing it down and making it look bad
but in all honesty, I dont really think we'll see sense on it. :/ still would be cool tho I'm not a fan of it
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u made me hungry, now im going to starve -_-
Majin101 said:
u made me hungry, now im going to starve -_-
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Lmao.
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Oh my God!!! I was going to say some really f'ed ups stuff (not in a rude or bad way) but I had an appifiny. If ICS is slimmed down just right then throw Sense 3.5 or as its known Sense Zero which is a newer lighter version of HTC sense made for the HTC Explorer which has almost the same specs as the Hero the i cant see why we cant have ICS with HTC Sense.
But yes lets get a good functional ICS first, then we deal with the rest.
Anything is possible. . .
Want a true answer to this? No you won't see it. Sorry. ICS is a completely different monster and is also a big build in itself. Throw Sense on top on that..... Sense lite or not, and it's still too big for our phone. IF I see any way for it to be done I will do my best and try but highly unlikely. CM's even starting to drop development for us older phones.
Yeah I tried and went down in complete flames. The zips for ics sense are way over 100mb. I'm sure it could be done, but would require more work than it would probably be worth. We've got plenty to work with now anyways
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It's why DX had to be 2.3.7 also. It's like Sense in some ways and I would have loved to use ICS as the base for it but can't. It could be possible one day. But personally I wouldn't count on it. Google made ICS a game changer. Meaning it changed a lot of how they did things in Froyo and Gingerbread. We're even lucky to have it booting on this old thing. Some phone forums don't even have what we do thanks to Jaybob the mean lean debugging machine. He's still working hard at it. I'm not much help for him though as it's beyond me at the moment so he's been a one-man band at this.

[q] why no new vivid roms ?

Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
Cause this phone is hard to dev for....
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mrwranglers42 said:
Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
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if you want different roms theres always miui or de-sensed just google them cant post links here
The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
this badass named mg2195 is deving a cm10 rom ^-^
Load of crap
ess.boyer said:
The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
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That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
dealtsoul said:
That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
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Woahhh there don't get angry xD It's due to the age (most dev's want the newest and best phone) and also due to the fact that this phone just wasnt that popular...
If its not popular why is the HTC hd2 still getting development and that was launched waaaaay back. And how is this phone hard to dev for???
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The phone is just full of shotty hacked up htc code. They just threw together a bit of everything to make it work, which kinda ruined it for everyone wanting to create custom non-sense based roms
Instead of posting multiple threads in here about why there aren't more ROMs, why not go talk to the makers of ROMs such as JellyBro and JellyBam to see if they will support our device, now that we're cm10 official. Or go create your own.
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No need for 4.2

Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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Team VeNuM JellyBomb Domination port sugestion

When I flashed the [Team VeNuM] JellyBomb Domination ROM on a friends Note II I was amazed. Best custom ROM I have ever seen. After talking to the developer and asking him if he had any Sprint HTC ONE ROM's, he said that he would be happy to have someone port it if they wanted to.
If any dev's are interested in porting Josh's [Team VeNuM] JellyBomb Domination ROM he has given permission..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957773
Very interesting.... Might give a shot this weekend. I'm not claiming this though. Anybody who's interested is welcome obviously. Might pump out a build this weekend, we'll see.
That being said this would probably be a pretty hard port, with different screen size and whatnot. Especially from Sammy to HTC devices...
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Very interesting.... Might give a shot this weekend. I'm not claiming this though. Anybody who's interested is welcome obviously. Might pump out a build this weekend, we'll see.
That being said this would probably be a pretty hard port, with different screen size and whatnot. Especially from Sammy to HTC devices...
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Hopefully you do! I'm sure there would be a lot of happy people if you're successful.
Oh hey
A better dev probably will, but I'm gonna give it a shot
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I would definitely be interested in seeing this up and running here. I have no experience with porting as of yet, but I do have a pretty comprehensive tut on porting from Post #3 of my Project Rookie II thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292018
It is technically for a different device, but I believe the process is the same. I may give it a whirl as a diversion from the frustration of compiling errors on my Beanstalk 4.3 build for the m7spr...........if any one wants to collaborate, or has any suggestions to offer, I'm all ears...
I could be wrong because I don't know anything about porting or being a Dev, in my years on XDA, I've never seen a touchwiz rom ported to a phone other than samsungs. But a sense rom that looks like that would be awesome.
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It's possible to do, but I can guarantee you that nothing would work unless you first ported a Touchwiz kernel to this device
Doing these things isn't easy, but it definitely is possible. See picture below
And yes, that's Sense 5 on my S3
There is a EvoLTE version of Jellybomb may be easier to port
It's ICS though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968559&highlight=jellybomb
Update: I will not be working on this. I'm just too dang busy with other stuff atm (high school student and athlete..)
Sorry. I bet eventually we will get at least stock ported over from that device someday. Also, if we get one, we will most likely get others as well
would be great to have jelly bomb on my htc one but doubt it will ever happen.. i ran it on my galaxy s3 when i had that device.. but its a Touch wiz rom not sense.. maybe we should try and port a kick a$$ sense rom.. would be much easier maybe android revolation rom... or trickdroid rom.. insert coin rom... clean rom

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