[Q] Question about flashing kernel - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

Hi all!
I came over from the HTC Inspire and was wondering about the difference in flashing roms.
The inspire would flash everything all at one. The Inspire development was pretty mature when i first messed with ROMS so maybe the early days of the inspire was the same way???
Is the need for flashing the kernel first on the vivid because of the vivid itself, or is it that CWM can't handle it?
Not a big deal really. I was just curious and didn't see any information regarding this... although I think I saw a thread before in another forum mentioning it.
-Tracy

We don't have s-off for the Vivid yet. Probably won't ever have it either as I don't think any devs are working on it since HTCdev allows you to unlock.
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New to nexus one

I've never really been into htc except for the g1, and I just got a nexus one that was already rooted running cm7 nightlies, I was under the impression that with htc you had to have s-off to root but mine is s-on. Does the nexus one have to have s-off like an evo 3d or sensation sorry if it's a dumb question I came from samsung
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Nexus is a dev phone with a unlockable bootloader out of the box.
S off is not need and you can't achieve it. Very fiew nexus ones actually do have s off though.
Read the wiki and learn just about all you need/want to know.
Thanks will do
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I'm about to buy a Nexus One for me. Right now i have a Samsung Galaxy 5 (i5500).
What wiki do you talk about?
Is it easy to install CM7?
Wiki is on this very forum. It is a sticky.
Perhaps the link at the very top labeled "WIKI"
Good lord.
Or in the sticky thread named "Nexus One Wiki".
Or in my signature.
snkmad said:
Is it easy to install CM7?
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This would depend on you technical know-how. If you rooted your phone you should be able to handle installing a custom rom.

ICS Devs

Currently have a vivid and a gs2. I'm hoping for some reassurance that the devs we have here would hopefully be able to work on a cm9 or aosp ics later when all the sources drop. I've got to decide which phone to keep and ive seen that the gs2 has more devs working on stuff than we have for the vivid. Just a question. Any feedback from developers is appreciated. Thanks!
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I'm working on porting ICS to the Velocity/Vivid/Raider myself. I will let you know how I go.
Also, I'm more than happy to let you test when I get as much bugs out as possible.
Upon trying to flash the system.img from Android 4.0, the handset got stuck at the HTC screen.
DHS2 is no more far along than we are in asop. Both are new still and it will take some time for either. Cm will have builds for us possibly in a month maybe sooner. Blog said something about them posting source for qsd8660 sometime in the near future I believe. That's our processor so it'd be a huge boost.
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Yes, talking with an official CM Dev on IRC he confirmed it was likely that the Amaze/Rezound/Vivid line of phones (MSM8660) would receive official CM support. At the moment the 8660 is next in the list, right now CM is working on other devices, specificially the galaxy line.
CM9 is coming, it's just a work-in-progress. Check the thread in the Development subforum to see my current progress. Updates will be posted there as they happen.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind testing out ICS when someone gets it up and running on the vivid.
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the latest ics release for s-off only devices requires hwboot 1.85
it shouldn't be that much longer for rogers to release ics for the raider....
Yeah, or Telstra does for the Velocity.
Telstra are really slack with their schedule as it is almost mid-March and not what we would consider "Early March"
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Leigh Kennedy said:
Yeah, or Telstra does for the Velocity.
Telstra are really slack with their schedule as it is almost mid-March and not what we would consider "Early March"
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you can call Telstra for their confirmation.

[Q] S-OFF HTC Vivid

is there a way to get s-off for the htc vivid?
Nope and atm its not needed
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Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.
Aus_Azn said:
Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.
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It is unreal... The laziness is ridiculous
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Can we have a sticky with FAQs like this? search functions are rarely perfect for me (even though in one case, the answer is actually on the first page)
:facepalm: There already is one. No one bothers to read so I hardly even work on it.
Also search functions are pretty good, you just have to you know read, and refine your search if it comes up wrong.
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:facepalm: There already is one.
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Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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Mad Medik said:
Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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As far as I understand it the firmware from onr will not work with the other. Irregardless of s-off, the radio for ics I think was change so you would still need your carriers updated radio.
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I can't comment on whether there was a change of radio from GB to ICS in the releases so far. However, I can tell you that Rogers and Bell in Canada use the same frequencies and protocols as US AT&T. I have an AT&T SIM that I use when travelling in the US and my Raider works fine. So I infer that either the radios are identical (att vs Bell, not GB vs ICS) or compatible. With S-Off, I would be up and running.
Also, if I understand correctly, with S-off, we would be free to mix and match, so I could try the ATT ICS Rom, with the Bell GB radio. Anyhow, all wishful thinking for now.
MM
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For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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Looks like they're close to releasing it too. Been actively following that thread cuz I'm dying to install some wicked custom ics roms on my raider and my wife's. . Super stoked for this.
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once s-off is done then yes will be able to flash roms from other htc devices to the vivid.as s-off lets you flash different radios instead having to use the radios the roms come with
Will s-off allow us to install kernels from recovery (so we don't need to fastboot from the computer each time)? Or do we just need a recovery capable of this?
Yes it let's you flash kernels in recovery
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The beta is out!
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Mad Medik said:
For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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The thread magically disappeared.

Any work on jelly bean 4.0

I was reading about jelly bean and I like the stuff you can do for notification bar and overall performance so I was wondering if any devs have there sights on this
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HTC one is already ported with a few problems but very fast development for having different chipset then galaxy nexus this is the link I was on but an XDA member did it like everything
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/downloadinstall-android-4-1-jelly-bean-htc-one-x-sdk-port/
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Bump
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If some of our devs would together we could problem get this up and running
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No point. Would still need source to make it fully functional.
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No point. Would still need source to make it fully functional.
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Will we be able to use the source from the Nexus when that update is released...or will we have to wait for AT&T (or whichever carrier) to release their version of it?
So you guys do think that we will at some point get a jellybean rom?
thekalby said:
So you guys do think that we will at some point get a jellybean rom?
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Considering the GSM Galaxy Nexus came out before our device, and the fact its being updated...I wouldn't see any reason our device can't get in on the JellyBean fun.
JayBuck said:
Considering the GSM Galaxy Nexus came out before our device, and the fact its being updated...I wouldn't see any reason our device can't get in on the JellyBean fun.
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Yes it may have come out before the vivid but the current and new nexus phones always get the current and new Android OS cause its Googles phones. The NExus came out with ICS out of the box, our vivid did not. It came with gingerbread. So Im sure if we do get a Jelly Bean OTA there will be a JB port before hand. That has always been my experience phones that already received an OS update before a new OS came out. Like with Froyo to GB or GB to ICS.
There isn't any reason why we shouldn't, after all my Captivate shipped with 2.1, and was on 2.3.5 after 2 updates, but it was sold in different times. When I got my Captivate the market for android phones wasn't near as saturated, and the Captivate was AT&Ts Galaxy S varient, only like their 5th android phone, and the other 4 were outdated teeny bopper texting toys. The Captivate was a no brainer for anyone who wanted a serious android phone in 2010 and wanted to stay on at&ts network. The result was a ton of owners, top notch xda support, and 2 major software updates as AT&T knew our contract would end eventually and wanted to keep us as customers.
Now times are different. The Vivid was one of many really, in fact it didn't even get the first LTE phone on at&ts network distinction, instead it had to share that with the skyrocket. And now the one x is out and the Vivid is kind of following in its shadow, not to mention HTC is struggling for business and is falling behind on upgrading other phones ie the rezound that came out the same time. I could see us being one and done. I hope we at least get a patch to deal with bugs at some point but I'm not holding my breath for jb
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HTC released this statement.
"We are excited about Android Jelly Bean and are planning to support it across a variety of our devices. We are reviewing the software to determine our upgrade plans and schedule, so please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans."
you can find the story at android central (i cant post links yet )
Maybe we will get an OTA before a port....
Yeah either way it'll take a while, it always does.
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I came from the Samsung Infuse and when samsung said they were going to release an OTA it meant that there was no way the end user was going to get it. Either AT&T blocks it or Samsung never sent it. Thats why I am happy with HTC. The last couple of HTC devices have been pretty good with OTAs
My vivid was the shortest wait ever but as a flyer owner they aren't always so great :'(
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You really think the Vivid will receive an OTA JB update? I highly doubt it. I'm just wondering if we will get a port.
To some extent yeah I could see it just because there are a lot of snapdragon s3 Htc phones out there so porting to our device isn't hard, and It's not very old. But I also could see us being one and done too as the one line is supposed to be a new beginning for HTC and that's their primary focus no doubt. But if we don't get it than I can't see any other phone HTC s3 based phone getting it either.
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thekalby said:
You really think the Vivid will receive an OTA JB update? I highly doubt it. I'm just wondering if we will get a port.
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OTA- Huge possibility
Port- definitely
Only question is which shall come first?
You know what I bet we will get it. The Vivid was AT&TS flagship HTC phone until the one x and HTC will want us to upgrade to another HTC phone when our contract is up. But at the same time our ics Rom needs a stability and performance update, and if they gave us that instead I'd be happy
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I hope we get it ota that way I don't have to void my warranty to get it.
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You only void your warranty if they can prove you flashed a custom Rom
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[Q] Jellybean?

Do you think we are ever going going get it?
Simple answer, yes. Detailed answer, our best bet is MG and ht's work on CM 10. HTC claims they're going to support 2011 devices with JB, but who knows when that will happen and what will be disabled by HTC and/or att. So yeah, it's as clear as mud!
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I just hope It won't take to long like with the ICS update ( I'm on rogers )
Moved to Q&A
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