[Q] NonSense ? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

Hello everyone,
After getting my Atrix 2 water damaged, I ordered HTC Vivid... Since it has bootloader unlocked I suppose there should be some ROMs without Sense skin.
Do you guys know if there is any fully functioning nonsense ROM ? Preferably ICS...

Yes. Pirate ghost's Rum Float Beta Rom has a no sense option:
http://blog.androidninjas.com/

Unfortunately the one you mentioned is not functional. So at this moment HTC Vivid can not have stock ICS experience....

PG is currently working on Rumfloat Beta4 btw if you are patient enough.

theandre said:
Unfortunately the one you mentioned is not functional. So at this moment HTC Vivid can not have stock ICS experience....
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Non functional? Then please explain to me why my phone is running perfectly...

Andre, I think you are confusing "stock" with AOSP. ALL HTC "stock" ROMs will have Sense user interface.
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I believe PGs nonsense Rom is nothing close to what you are looking. Basically just stock sense with the trebuchet ics launcher from cm9. You'll have to wait for anything more AOSP than that
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Off topic: I was really looking for a nonsense rom but I changed my mind after the ics upgrade, the new sense is soo smooth now, I'm impressed. (Part of it may be the memory management and probably the multicore support in ics).
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Just to clear up the confusion here -
Nonsense/sense stripped/ect: a Rom that has had sense "removed" from it. There will still be traces of sense left behind but that's the price to pay instead of building one from scratch while still having a functioning ROM.
AOSP: a built from scratch ROM. So vanillay its more vanilla then Vanilla.
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Okay, I've been looking for something like this as well - to clarify, does PirateGhost's RumFloat Beta4 work on OTA updated ICS Vivid's; and if so, is it a 'AOSP' or a 'NonSense' offering?

shayla28 said:
Okay, I've been looking for something like this as well - to clarify, does PirateGhost's RumFloat Beta4 work on OTA updated ICS Vivid's; and if so, is it a 'AOSP' or a 'NonSense' offering?
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It's a Nonsense offering, although I don't think Pg's build will work with Telstra Vivids.

shayla28 said:
Okay, I've been looking for something like this as well - to clarify, does PirateGhost's RumFloat Beta4 work on OTA updated ICS Vivid's; and if so, is it a 'AOSP' or a 'NonSense' offering?
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He is on rootzwiki if you want to read more about it.
This is from his post:
rebuilt from RUU 3.26.502.56
removed non-sense option, too buggy
He does not have a nonsense offering except for beta 3. It runs on ics too.

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[Q] Which is the most stable/ reliable?

Hi im going to root my nexus one with the Universal Androroot 1.5.3 app.
Basically i need a custom rom that is very stable, fast.
I would like to try out sense UI, The roms for sense ui that seem possibilites are Evils Q&D port of sense and Kingklicks. Which one of those would be better?
IF i dont like sense i would like to try one of these roms, either cyanogen mod 6 or enothmers. Which one would be better and more reliable between those 2?
As you can all probably tell im a noob with all these custom roms and rooting.
Im currently on stock android 2.2.
I rooted yesterday and installed CM6 and love it. Can't tell you about the other Roms though.
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glwinkler said:
I rooted yesterday and installed CM6 and love it. Can't tell you about the other Roms though.
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I bought mine rooted already with LeoFroyo rom, works perfectly so far and I think it checks for updates automatically but don't know about others and I also would like the suggestions...

Recomended Rom+Radio

Hi,
I am a new owner of a Nexus One, and I would like to install a new rom in it. Which one do you recomend?
Thnaks.
As enomther is gone (havn't read all the posts lately on his thread) I'm on cyanogen 7 RC4 currently (since 2 days) and I'm really pleased for now. Nothing that bad happened and I got most of the features I liked from enomthers rom. I'm not sure if it's right but it seems to me that cyanogen is currently the way to go (at least for me).
Maybe this thread isn't located right here, has nothing development related, general would be much better I think.
try this one http://www.evervolv.com/
great rom, fast, stable, works great for a day use without wonk
you can flash with it darktremor beta 4 and a new kernel from inetersecraven
Reading is your friend. And as far as time go try them till you find one you like. Simple.
Also wrong section. Should be in general. This has nothing to do with development.
If you want sense than use MODACOS Desire_port... of you want gingerbread use cyanogen rc 4! Very stable and fast!
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bunnahabhain said:
If you want sense than use MODACOS Desire_port... of you want gingerbread use cyanogen rc 4! Very stable and fast!
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still wonk ?
Indeed for some devices.. but in dont think evervolvs ROM is better,)
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Use MM HTC Desire HD v1.7 ROM, it is by far the smoothest ROM and the best UI using HTC Sense. The ROM can be further modded and tweaked to maximize your Nexus One.
doraemon6688 said:
Use MM HTC Desire HD v1.7 ROM, it is by far the smoothest ROM and the best UI using HTC Sense. The ROM can be further modded and tweaked to maximize your Nexus One.
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The thread of MM is VERY confusing! Which is the neweset version, the 1.7 final or the 2.14? Is it based on desire or desireHD? Is it possible to get the stock look of htc sense? Is that ROM smoother than MoDaCos original desire port?
Stock ?
No-one prepared to stick up for stock Gingerbread ?
I am, was on custom ROMs all of last year but now dropped onto stock 2.3.3 & enjoying the speed, stability and features. You can always add themes and apps to change it around.
I am struggling with the Radio - it takes a long time to pick up the GPS signal, need to look for a Radio fix somewhere.
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The thread of MM is VERY confusing! Which is the neweset version, the 1.7 final or the 2.14? Is it based on desire or desireHD? Is it possible to get the stock look of htc sense? Is that ROM smoother than MoDaCos original desire port?
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For Desire HD port, the v1.7 is Final and you can flash just that.
For the earlier Desire port (non-HD), the v2.16 is the final version.
Flashing either one will give you the stock look of HTC Sense by default (except for the 3G and battery icons) when you first boot into the ROM. The theme and skin is basically changeable, so you have choices of stock look or another theme/skin.
Yes, I have tried MoDaCos and ALL the other ROMs and have compared them for almost 1 week non-stop. The smoothness of Desire ported ROM cannot be beat. It may not be the fastest ROM, but it's very smooth and stable (and you get the beautiful HTC feel). One main thing I like about HTC Sense UI is that it's got many useful phone functions when you use it as a phone on a daily basis. Let's face it, the best smartphone should also act like the best phone. I am currently on MM Desire HD v1.7, and if you want the stock 3G & battery icons back, there is a guy that posted a modified framework-res.apk that can be flashed to get the stock icons back. Everything works in the ROM except for HTC Locations which I just cannot get to work. Built-in WiFi Hotspot does not work, but there is Wireless Tethering included in v1.7 which will provide you the same function. Also, make sure you flash 5.12 radio for the best signal performance.
Good luck!
So... you made me curious
So the Desire Port (2.16) is smoother than MoDaCos ROM and the desire HD port (1.7) is even smoother than the desire port (2.16)?
Do one have to create an ext-partition o sd-card?
The only thing that bothers me is that HTC Locations does not work
doraemon6688 said:
For Desire HD port, the v1.7 is Final and you can flash just that.
For the earlier Desire port (non-HD), the v2.16 is the final version.
Flashing either one will give you the stock look of HTC Sense by default (except for the 3G and battery icons) when you first boot into the ROM. The theme and skin is basically changeable, so you have choices of stock look or another theme/skin.
Yes, I have tried MoDaCos and ALL the other ROMs and have compared them for almost 1 week non-stop. The smoothness of Desire ported ROM cannot be beat. It may not be the fastest ROM, but it's very smooth and stable (and you get the beautiful HTC feel). One main thing I like about HTC Sense UI is that it's got many useful phone functions when you use it as a phone on a daily basis. Let's face it, the best smartphone should also act like the best phone. I am currently on MM Desire HD v1.7, and if you want the stock 3G & battery icons back, there is a guy that posted a modified framework-res.apk that can be flashed to get the stock icons back. Everything works in the ROM except for HTC Locations which I just cannot get to work. Built-in WiFi Hotspot does not work, but there is Wireless Tethering included in v1.7 which will provide you the same function. Also, make sure you flash 5.12 radio for the best signal performance.
Good luck!
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Hi,
The 5.12 radio isn't exclusive for Korean models?
Thanks.

Looking for HTC Incredible S ROM

Hi,
Im new to the ROMS. looking for a good first one. Can anyone tell me if there is a ROM with Icecream Sandwich with latest HTC Sense? or even a Gingerbread (2.3.3 is what im currently on) with latest HTC Sense? Also any suggestions for ROMS? im wide open. Im hoping to expand my knowledge of all of this so i wont be a noob........
Thanks for everything!!!
RoughRunner said:
Hi,
Im new to the ROMS. looking for a good first one. Can anyone tell me if there is a ROM with Icecream Sandwich with latest HTC Sense? or even a Gingerbread (2.3.3 is what im currently on) with latest HTC Sense? Also any suggestions for ROMS? im wide open. Im hoping to expand my knowledge of all of this so i wont be a noob........
Thanks for everything!!!
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Ice cream sandwich is yet not out properly.
Rest there are:
Android revolution with htc sense 2.1(mods can give you some 3.0 components)
virtuous unity with sense 3
Niks trinity xl with sense 3.5
Virtuous affinity with sense 3.5
Rcmix 4.0 with sense 3.5
Ehab's runny or bliss rom with sense 3.5
Pyramid based rom by ehab
If u need need sense rom u can go for nik's v2.0 rom !!!
If u need android 4.0 try latest miui
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where do i find the miui flie or rom your were talking about. Niks Trinity XL is kickass if you ask me, been using it for almost a 3 months till now, i havent had much problems unless i overclock my CPU.
vmorari said:
where do i find the miui flie or rom your were talking about. Niks Trinity XL is kickass if you ask me, been using it for almost a 3 months till now, i havent had much problems unless i overclock my CPU.
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Should be near the top of the developers forum "miui super rom roobs linked" or something like that. Its not ics though its a gingerbread Rom that's slowly implementing the ics framework into its build. So far you won't notice any differences in the ui but its a good start as every new version released will contain more and more of the ics functionality, but for now there is no final release of ics and no stable build, so if you don't know what your doing I wouldn't reccommend this Rom... yet.
Pardon my lack of knowledge, but i dont understand there are different sense versions with roms. Do some like older sense than the newer ones? And why...
dkimmortal said:
Pardon my lack of knowledge, but i dont understand there are different sense versions with roms. Do some like older sense than the newer ones? And why...
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mostly people like the newer sense. its like going from froyo to gingerbread. depends on you...people generally like new things.
in case of sense....cosmetic changes are more.
Stable but not beautiful:
CM7 (or nightly)
Beautiful but a little bit unstable:
Sense 3.0 / 3.5 ROM

Question about Sense 3.0 update.

With the new HTC Sense 3.0 update is the phone still smooth or is it laggy? Is the new update of HTC Sense 3.0 the stablest ROM, for this phone? Will this new official update work better then the custom ROM's we have of Sense 3.0/3.5?
jakob95 said:
With the new HTC Sense 3.0 update is the phone still smooth or is it laggy? Is the new update of HTC Sense 3.0 the stablest ROM, for this phone? Will this new official update work better then the custom ROM's we have of Sense 3.0/3.5?
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The new release will not be laggy for your device at stock setup with clean install. However upon installing apps and using up internal memory your phone will become laggy over time.
As to your second question no. Official releases will never best a custom room created by a well established dev. The roms released by our devs have all the unnecessary cap removed from the roms and the sloppy coding is all aligned properly to save space and thus giving your phone more internal space and better use of your ram. I would strongly advise you to never go to a stock rom for any reason other than returning to s-on for warranty purposes. All future roms will most likely be created using the stock rom most recently released for this device as a base and greatly improved upon.
I don't even have this device, I have the Incredible 2. I was just wondering of what to expect with the future update for my phone, since both of these phones are basically the same. All the Sense 3.0/3.5 ROMS for my phone have some form of annoying bug, or lag. While the stock Sense 2.1 ROM never lagged for me.
jakob95 said:
I don't even have this device, I have the Incredible 2. I was just wondering of what to expect with the future update for my phone, since both of these phones are basically the same. All the Sense 3.0/3.5 ROMS for my phone have some form of annoying bug, or lag. While the stock Sense 2.1 ROM never lagged for me.
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Try hamdirs ultra smooth rosie mod from the dhd development section... Helps a lot
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Just wanted to bump this topic, since I never really got a clear answer. Is the Sense 3.0 official ROM smoother then the Sense 2.1 official ROM?
jakob95 said:
Just wanted to bump this topic, since I never really got a clear answer. Is the Sense 3.0 official ROM smoother then the Sense 2.1 official ROM?
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If you have a DInc2, why are you bumping a thread on the IncS forum?
The official Sense 3.0 update has been out for quite some time. IMO it has been just as smooth as Sense 2.1, but to me, smoothness is one of those subjective things. What I consider smooth may not be what you consider smooth. You just need to try it and for yourself and make your own opinion.
tpbklake said:
If you have a DInc2, why are you bumping a thread on the IncS forum?
The official Sense 3.0 update has been out for quite some time. IMO it has been just as smooth as Sense 2.1, but to me, smoothness is one of those subjective things. What I consider smooth may not be what you consider smooth. You just need to try it and for yourself and make your own opinion.
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Because the official Sense 3.0 just came out for the Dinc2. So before updating I wanted to hear what people had to say here.
To me it wasn't a smooth as I wanted so I had to root and believe me I never regretted it !!!! There are some roms in xda incredible S section Android development that are smooth like butter
Edit: I meant that sense 3 didn't impress me as sense 4.0A did !!!
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Ics help just bought a vivid

I recently bought a HTC Vivid earlier this evening and before that I had a HTC Inspire 4G which I successfully rooted with ace hack tool and AosopX ICS Rom latest BR4. I wanted to upgraded to a dual core phone so I bought the Vivid. Anyways, I manually installed the updated 4.0 ICS w/ HTC Sense 3.6 on the Vivid. I fell in love with the interface ICS on my Inspire 4G which I know is the original ICS interface.
I've looked around the forums and there are too many confusing topics and terminology which I don't understand. Is there an ICS rom as close to the
ICS 4.0 update for the Vivid but just without the sense 3.6 interface?
Z33type said:
I recently bought a HTC Vivid earlier this evening and before that I had a HTC Inspire 4G which I successfully rooted with ace hack tool and AosopX ICS Rom latest BR4. I wanted to upgraded to a dual core phone so I bought the Vivid. Anyways, I manually installed the updated 4.0 ICS w/ HTC Sense 3.6 on the Vivid. I fell in love with the interface ICS on my Inspire 4G which I know is the original ICS interface.
I've looked around the forums and there are too many confusing topics and terminology which I don't understand. Is there an ICS rom as close to the
ICS 4.0 update for the Vivid but just without the sense 3.6 interface?
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You're looking for a close-to-AOSP ROM. There are a couple in the Development section (Virtuous Inquisition, and a Senseless ROM) I'd recommend searching google for Vivid ROMs, the development for this device is not centralized at XDA. There are some really good ROMs out there - modded stock ROMs, CM variants, "De-sensed/Senseless" ROMs, etc..
To install any of them, you'll need to unlock the bootloader through HTCDev, flash a custom recovery, manually flash the boot.img, then flash the ROM.
Yeah, I definitely recommend the Virtuous Inquisition ROM. It's as pure to AOSP as you can get I think. I've been using it for a couple weeks now, and I love it. I'll post some screenshots so you can see it.
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There you go.. lock screen, main menu, about phone
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I would highly recommend contactwajeeh's De-sensed ROM. I have been running for a while now and love it. Here is a link to the ROM. Running it along with kozmikkernel, this rom gives you excellent battery life. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582670
Blac Caesar said:
Yeah, I definitely recommend the Virtuous Inquisition ROM. It's as pure to AOSP as you can get I think. I've been using it for a couple weeks now, and I love it. I'll post some screenshots so you can see it.
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Any major bugs? Camera/Video affected at all?
homeslice976 said:
You're looking for a close-to-AOSP ROM. There are a couple in the Development section (Virtuous Inquisition, and a Senseless ROM) I'd recommend searching google for Vivid ROMs, the development for this device is not centralized at XDA. There are some really good ROMs out there - modded stock ROMs, CM variants, "De-sensed/Senseless" ROMs, etc..
To install any of them, you'll need to unlock the bootloader through HTCDev, flash a custom recovery, manually flash the boot.img, then flash the ROM.
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Any easier way like ace hack tool kit?
Z33type said:
Any major bugs? Camera/Video affected at all?
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Not a one, and I've been using Virtuous Inquisition for about 3 weeks now. Didn't have any problems, once I flashed the ROM and kernel correctly lol. I had to flash the ROM separately from the kernel, as I am still S-On.. debating S-Offing my Vivid though..
Z33type said:
Any easier way like ace hack tool kit?
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Hasoon made a tool its in the developement section. It will walk you through unlocking installing a recovery and then I suggest s off its really not that hard did it first try with a twisty tie lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576668
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Not a one, and I've been using Virtuous Inquisition for about 3 weeks now. Didn't have any problems, once I flashed the ROM and kernel correctly lol. I had to flash the ROM separately from the kernel, as I am still S-On.. debating S-Offing my Vivid though..
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I went ahead and tried desensed rom first. I actually like it a lot but only thing is missing is the beats by dre feature, a few oem apps are missing and dial pad is white instead of blue.
zippox180 said:
Hasoon made a tool its in the developement section. It will walk you through unlocking installing a recovery and then I suggest s off its really not that hard did it first try with a twisty tie lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576668
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I used hansoons tool which was pretty easy to use now im trying to figure out if i should s-off my device. my battery life sucks
Z33type said:
I used hansoons tool which was pretty easy to use now im trying to figure out if i should s-off my device. my battery life sucks
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I would do it. Flashing boot separately gets old real fast and my battery life has been quite good with holics.
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I managed to flash the kozmikkernel. I had a bit of trouble loading the recovery.img on cmd turns out I had to press tab to make it a complete recovery.img.img which was wierd and it work. Flashed it from the sd card. To anyone who has this kernel why won't I able to customize the setting from the system itself? Only way i can customize is to go back to the recovery and flash it again. And on bootloader why does it say its still S-ON? I thought flashing this kernel will S-Off my device or am I wrong? I downloaded the desensed rom and I heard that particular rom is already rooted according to jenkem 110.
No, actually.. S-Offing, is something completely different than rooting. Check out Hasoon2000's S-Off Toolkit, in the development forums. I've been debating to S-Off my Vivid.. haven't decided yet haha
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Blac Caesar said:
No, actually.. S-Offing, is something completely different than rooting. Check out Hasoon2000's S-Off Toolkit, in the development forums. I've been debating to S-Off my Vivid.. haven't decided yet haha
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How is that Faux kernel treating you? Experiencing any crashes on certain apps? So far this kozmik kernel is making some apps crash even as simple as text messaging. it will crash it right after sending a text message.
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How is that Faux kernel treating you? Experiencing any crashes on certain apps? So far this kozmik kernel is making some apps crash even as simple as text messaging. it will crash it right after sending a text message.
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I kid you not.. the Faux kernel I have, has given me no problems at all. It's your basic system functions, it doesn't have like "sweep2wake" like some of the other kernels out there might, but honestly I wouldn't use that function even if I had it. But since I installed it correctly, I haven't seen any issues thus far; first I didn't flash it right so my Wifi wasn't working.. didn't realise I had to do that thru fastboot bc I'm S-On, for like a couple weeks lol. Hope this helps!
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Z33type said:
I went ahead and tried desensed rom first. I actually like it a lot but only thing is missing is the beats by dre feature, a few oem apps are missing and dial pad is white instead of blue.
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Yeah, I had that ROM for awhile too.. the one by Team CodeFire. But I wanted a ROM with the blue AOSP accents, then I found Virtuous Inquisition by cruzin_cruzing.. and I've loved it ever since. It has DSP Manager, which actually in alot of ways, is better the Beats Audio. It gives you more options for sound quality improvement while playing music.
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Blac Caesar said:
I kid you not.. the Faux kernel I have, has given me no problems at all. It's your basic system functions, it doesn't have like "sweep2wake" like some of the other kernels out there might, but honestly I wouldn't use that function even if I had it. But since I installed it correctly, I haven't seen any issues thus far; first I didn't flash it right so my Wifi wasn't working.. didn't realise I had to do that thru fastboot bc I'm S-On, for like a couple weeks lol. Hope this helps!
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Direct me to the right links I I can try it out. Sweepstakes is pretty cool. I can get Lost finding the power button at times when I'm not paying attention. Would I able to customize faux on the system instead of having to keep flashing it to customize it?
Z33type said:
Direct me to the right links I I can try it out. Sweepstakes is pretty cool. I can get Lost finding the power button at times when I'm not paying attention. Would I able to customize faux on the system instead of having to keep flashing it to customize it?
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Huh, I never thought of it like that.. maybe I'll try n find a kernel that has that option, one that works with this ROM. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631499
As far as customizing on the system, I haven't been able to do much; most is with the help of SetCPU, for overclocking. Some installers I've seen, like Aroma or something allow for tweaking the kernel or ROM, before it's flashed. But I think, to customize you'll have to flash it..
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Blac Caesar said:
Huh, I never thought of it like that.. maybe I'll try n find a kernel that has that option, one that works with this ROM. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631499
As far as customizing on the system, I haven't been able to do much; most is with the help of SetCPU, for overclocking. Some installers I've seen, like Aroma or something allow for tweaking the kernel or ROM, before it's flashed. But I think, to customize you'll have to flash it..
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So the kernel is pretty much built in the rom? What about the camera? What did they mean by the camera app has been replaced?

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