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Which Method To Use?

Ok guys,
I've scoured the forums, I've found a number of methods to use but the most up to date one states that even it is out of date and there are easier ways to do this.
I have an HTC Incredible S running Android 2.3.3 (yeah, I know).
Someone post me a link to what they believe is the best method for S-OFF and ROOTING.
Many thanks!
PAINGUINX

It depends what your h-boot is...

PAinguINx said:
Ok guys,
I've scoured the forums, I've found a number of methods to use but the most up to date one states that even it is out of date and there are easier ways to do this.
I have an HTC Incredible S running Android 2.3.3 (yeah, I know).
Someone post me a link to what they believe is the best method for S-OFF and ROOTING.
Many thanks!
PAINGUINX
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for HBOOT 1.16.0000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
easy one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351060

easiest is using revolutionary
revolutionary.io

Hboot..
itsbeertimenow said:
It depends what your h-boot is...
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Hi! My HBOOT is 1.16....
Thanks,
PAINGUINX

ajeya said:
for HBOOT 1.16.0000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
easy one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351060
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So no way to S-OFF HBOOT 1.16? The second link makes it seem plausible...
Any thoughts?

1.16 must have a custom Rom flashed to obtain root.

in other words follow the newbs guide to root hboot 1.16 exactly and you won't have any problems however you will not be able to stay stock.

itsbeertimenow said:
in other words follow the newbs guide to root hboot 1.16 exactly and you won't have any problems however you will not be able to stay stock.
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That's fine with me. I definitely want to flash a different ROM so it's no issue if I cannot use the STOCK ROM any longer.
What ROM would you guys recommend I use? People seem to be using Cyanogen more than anything else with this device.
Opinions?
Thanks!
PAinguIN

I used alpharevx and its been great. I like that you can still go back to s-on if something goes wrong and you need warranty

I updated my Incredible S, not knowing that it would change my HBOOT version. I was on stock 1.16.0000 for ages, until I found this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
I was able to create a goldcard and downgrade to a s-off-able HBOOT version and s-off using revolutionary.io
These guides should help with revolutionary and flashing a new ROM
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...-android-phone-using-the-revolutionary-method
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...d-device-after-using-the-revolutionary-method
Now I have S-off and root and I'm running Virtuous affinity 1.48
I would recommend downgrading because using the HTCdev method doesn't give you full access to flashing things

markj338 said:
I updated my Incredible S, not knowing that it would change my HBOOT version. I was on stock 1.16.0000 for ages, until I found this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
I was able to create a goldcard and downgrade to a s-off-able HBOOT version and s-off using revolutionary.io
These guides should help with revolutionary and flashing a new ROM
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...-android-phone-using-the-revolutionary-method
http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...d-device-after-using-the-revolutionary-method
Now I have S-off and root and I'm running Virtuous affinity 1.48
I would recommend downgrading because using the HTCdev method doesn't give you full access to flashing things
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Really?
That's incredible! No pun intended... LOL! I will check in to that for certain. Thanks!
Hey, by the way, what's the most popular "Sense" ROM for the Incredible S???
Thanks!

PAinguINx said:
Really?
That's incredible! No pun intended... LOL! I will check in to that for certain. Thanks!
Hey, by the way, what's the most popular "Sense" ROM for the Incredible S???
Thanks!
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For me its nik's trinity rom
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Try out Virtuous Affinity, which is great, but development for it is on hold at the moment Im using this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346508
Android revolution HD is supposed to be really good too, though I havent tried it myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088498
Here is the link to Nik's trinity sensation XL previously mentioned
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021
I have been told this is good also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374852
Good luck

[Q] to update or not to update

Just a quick question.
I have HTC IncS Sim free bought in UK.
I have S-OFF it using revolutionary and is rooted.
If i were to apply the OTA update will it work fine with my fone or do I need to S-ON it first and then apply the update.

you will need to revert to s-on first. beware, once you update, you might not be able to s-off. I read that the update comes with hboot 2.0. no one knows if it can be s-off'd.
if you want to keep the phone s-off, just flash arhd 2.1.0. Mike just updated the rom using the official update.

okay thanks alot.. So to revert it to S-ON again i believe i need to update to a stock rom but which rom should i be using for my base band version 20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M

read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555

I have read this but i do not know which version of stock rom would is for my device? how do i find that?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

try this. you should be able to deduce from reading the thread. if not, i'm sure someone can answer your question if you post in that thread. good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922

You sir are crazy. Is no one seriously not going to tell this guy not to do it? The ota update that was just released is a piece of crap, the roms on the dev section are light years ahead of the newest htc update. Don't do it!

I agree with "itsbeertimenow", you may wanna avoid the latest update as it includes hboot 1.16.000 and revolutionary will NOT work anymore.

itsbeertimenow said:
You sir are crazy. Is no one seriously not going to tell this guy not to do it? The ota update that was just released is a piece of crap, the roms on the dev section are light years ahead of the newest htc update. Don't do it!
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haha. i already suggested using arhd if he wants to keep s-off. what he does with the info i provided is his prerogative.
having said that, I agree with you beertime. if it were up to me, I would not switch to the official ota update.

katu2006 said:
I agree with "itsbeertimenow", you may wanna avoid the latest update as it includes hboot 1.16.000 and revolutionary will NOT work anymore.
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I actually read that it's hboot 2.0.
afaik, 1.16 can now be unlocked by downgrading then using revolutionary.
edit: here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697

syc7090 said:
I actually read that it's hboot 2.0.
afaik, 1.16 can now be unlocked by downgrading then using revolutionary.
edit: here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
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Hboot 2.0 is even worse...so no update for me.
Yeah, I know about the gold card option, which I will have to try at some point...but the risk involved is a bit concerning at the moment.
Anyway, I would advise against the update.

no update from me
my advice is to not update.
I was always a stock rom fan giving the reason, a. root involves a risk of bricking your phone and b. HTC was doing not bad on their sense UI IMO. (OK you could argue that but I personally believe so).
But this 3.0 update is just so not HTC, I don't see a big improvement of performance but the otherwise, and the UI feels like beta version of a custom rom.
check my recent post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383806
Also, consider other members' opinion on rooting back from stock 3.0, you'd better stay and wait.
H_H

moneyes said:
okay thanks alot.. So to revert it to S-ON again i believe i need to update to a stock rom but which rom should i be using for my base band version 20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M
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I have the same uk sim free phone. Im just interested to know which one did you pick in the end.? I'm not updating but i'm just interested.

Best method to root Incredible S?

Hey guys, I'm new but i know abit bout rooting but in this forum there were 2 stickies on how to root the Inc S, (1. Downgrade Hboot to 1.13 and root
2. Use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader then root. BTW my phone is hboot 2.00 with gingerbread 2.3.5 and Sense 3! So what do you guys think is the best way to root and what advantages or disadvantages each method? Thanx

FallenSuisydal said:
Hey guys, I'm new but i know abit bout rooting but in this forum there were 2 stickies on how to root the Inc S, (1. Downgrade Hboot to 1.13 and root
2. Use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader then root. BTW my phone is hboot 2.00 with gingerbread 2.3.5 and Sense 3! So what do you guys think is the best way to root and what advantages or disadvantages each method? Thanx
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Downgrading and gaining S-OFF with Revolutionary is going to give you the best flexibility. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, there are extra steps you need to perform to flash a custom ROM, i.e. after you flash the ROM, you manually have to flash the boot.img file contained in the ROM.zip.
Not to mention the fact that you have to give HTC your phone's serial number to unlock the bootloader.

Thanks, But ...
tpbklake said:
Downgrading and gaining S-OFF with Revolutionary is going to give you the best flexibility. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, there are extra steps you need to perform to flash a custom ROM, i.e. after you flash the ROM, you manually have to flash the boot.img file contained in the ROM.zip.
Not to mention the fact that you have to give HTC your phone's serial number to unlock the bootloader.
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Thanks for that, but one more question (or two more actually.)
1. Which one is more stable and which one method is safe to root
2. If you have a Inc S, or if you did have one which method would/did you use!
Thanks

If you follow nonverbose's guide, then it should be no problem to downgrade and s-off, its quite easy actually
I have downgraded twice, wouldn't unlock with htcdev if I were you

Personally i used HTCdev, then nover's tool then S-OFF. All together it takes hardly any time at all and ive never once had an issue with my phone.

I used revolutionary and it worked very easy. Did it this week a few times after trying to get it back s-on and had zero problems getting it s-off.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

FallenSuisydal said:
Thanks for that, but one more question (or two more actually.)
1. Which one is more stable and which one method is safe to root
2. If you have a Inc S, or if you did have one which method would/did you use!
Thanks
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1. When you are modding your phone, you are always taking a chance that you will flash something unstable. With Revolutionary, you will be able to flash new kernels, radios and ROMs. With HTCDEV, you will be limited to flashing ROMs and kernels.
2. I didn't have to choose because I received my Bell Mobility IncS with S-OFF via the XTC Clip, so I have the upmost flexibility and stability.

I initially went the htcdev route which lasted a couple of days before I downgraded hboot (had 1.16) and went through revolutionary, if I had my time again I wouldn't bother unlocking through htcdev.

Thanks!
Thanks everyone, I will surely try out the downgrade from hboot 2.00 to 1.13 and user revolutionary! Once again, thanks!
EDIT: Also if I root using nonverbose's guide, which android version will i have and will i be able safe to upgrade to the official ICS when HTC gives it out?

FallenSuisydal said:
Thanks everyone, I will surely try out the downgrade from hboot 2.00 to 1.13 and user revolutionary! Once again, thanks!
EDIT: Also if I root using nonverbose's guide, which android version will i have and will i be able safe to upgrade to the official ICS when HTC gives it out?
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You will be on GB once you have rooted (as i assume thats what your on now) version like 2.3.3 etc will depend on each device. To get the official ICS you would have to un-root your phone - there are plenty of guides to tell you how. However you could just install a rom like playground or ice cold sandwich for an ICS look and feel however these are no-sense versions. We currently do not have a sense verion of ICS.

Way of keeping current firmware?
vizzy said:
You will be on GB once you have rooted (as i assume thats what your on now) version like 2.3.3 etc will depend on each device. To get the official ICS you would have to un-root your phone - there are plenty of guides to tell you how. However you could just install a rom like playground or ice cold sandwich for an ICS look and feel however these are no-sense versions. We currently do not have a sense verion of ICS.
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Hi, thanks vizzy
but if i use nonverbose's tutorial to root i will then possibly lose Sense 3.0 and 2.3.5 right? If so, is there a way i can keep my current firmware?

FallenSuisydal said:
Hi, thanks vizzy
but if i use nonverbose's tutorial to root i will then possibly lose Sense 3.0 and 2.3.5 right? If so, is there a way i can keep my current firmware?
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The RUU you have to install will have sense in it, i do not know which sense version but id assume its 3? Its just a generic sense RUU. ...But you could always install a sense ROM afterwards if you fancy something with more tweaks etc like Niks rom or any of the others.

which sense 3.5 ics rom sdo u recommend or which do u hv? also are there any sense 4 ics roms? fanks!
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

No point trying sense 4 unless you can cope with all the bugs. I prefer no-sense rooms due to better battery. I'm using ics playground atm. If you want sense try ARHD?
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium

I would go either nik's trinity rom or playground ics
Both have awesome battery and performance if configured well
Keep in mind if you want rock solid, then sense GB is the way to go

[ Root ] Incredible S

First of all hello to everyone
And secondly I'm sorry for the mistakes I hope few, I am French
I came on this forum for his very very large community that can help me solve my problem
So I have an Incredible S for about 3 months and for 1 month or so I passed under ICS and I'd like to spend this wonderful adventure with you rootage
So I would like the rooter but what I saw AC looks very complicated, it should unlock a HTC DEV oartir what I have done, it must be put in S-OFF (I n have not done) in order to install the rooter and a ROM but what I saw there is still no solutions to switch OFF and S-rooter for version 4.0.4
So please if you have a solution (or more) to enter S-OFF and rooter for version 4.0.4
And will be available when an official version of ROM or JB on my Incredible S
Thank you

There is a sticky on this matter.
Here it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
Edit: sorry.fixed link
Hit Thanks if I helped
Tapatalk 2
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Device: HTC Incredible S
Hboot: Revolutionary 6.13.10.1002
Recovery: 4EXT 1.0.0.5 RC5
ROM: We.Want.ICS.v4-NiKHiLL007
Radio: 3831.18.00.11_M
Kernal: Stock 3.0.16-g693e8e9

world94 said:
First of all hello to everyone
And secondly I'm sorry for the mistakes I hope few, I am French
I came on this forum for his very very large community that can help me solve my problem
So I have an Incredible S for about 3 months and for 1 month or so I passed under ICS and I'd like to spend this wonderful adventure with you rootage
So I would like the rooter but what I saw AC looks very complicated, it should unlock a HTC DEV oartir what I have done, it must be put in S-OFF (I n have not done) in order to install the rooter and a ROM but what I saw there is still no solutions to switch OFF and S-rooter for version 4.0.4
So please if you have a solution (or more) to enter S-OFF and rooter for version 4.0.4
And will be available when an official version of ROM or JB on my Incredible S
Thank you
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Hello,
I have 'unlocked' my incredible s via the HTCDev website and I have got root afterwards. I have also flashed a custom ROM, Android Revolution HD, which is very stable and I would recommend if you want the latest ICS ROM.
However, I'm not S-off. If you want S-off you need to unlock via a different method. Check the link provided above and search these forums, there is a lot of useful information to be found.
My 'unlocked' S-on is still a little restrictive, S-off would allow you more access to modifications and ROM updates from the forums (as I've found out).
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Nniicckkss thank you!
But how did you have root your HTC ? You are in 4.0 ?
Thank you

world94 said:
Nniicckkss thank you!
But how did you have root your HTC ? You are in 4.0 ?
Thank you
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I got root before I installed ICS (4.0). And when you flash the custom ROM root is retained within it.
I got root from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14693680
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(I collect 'thanks' clicks, if you think I've been helpful!)

But do not for me to get in before-OFF S?

world94 said:
But do not for me to get in before-OFF S?
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No, you need to S-OFF or HTCDev UNLOCK before you get root by using this method.
As I mentioned above, I used HTCDev method to unlock first, then rooted from the link I posted earlier.
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At that moment there exists a. Zip file for 4.0 because I can not find the Htc. Zip in recovery ?

world94 said:
At that moment there exists a. Zip file for 4.0 because I can not find the Htc. Zip in recovery ?
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I don't really understand your question, sorry...
There are various files/programs, and various methods for using the files/programs, for each stage of the process - unlocking/s-off, install recovery, get root, flash ROM.
Each is downloadable from the XDA forum, normally in the first post of the topic.
You need to allow enough time, read each set of instructions and carefully follow each stage of the process as advised. Be aware of the warnings too!
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Ah ok, I've unlocked the phone from HTC Dev but I can not root it because he is 4.0

world94 said:
Ah ok, I've unlocked the phone from HTC Dev but I can not root it because he is 4.0
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Oh, I see now...
So you have ICS already, I guess you updated to ICS via OTA before you 'UNLOCKED' via HTCDev?
And now you want to root your phone but can't find the guidance on how to do so from ICS to root. Is this right?
For me, I can't help you as I haven't had to do this myself. I'm not sure, but you may need to follow one of the downgrade threads, but don't hold me to that. I would suggest reading and searching through the threads before trying anything.
Be aware of your HBOOT version and read through things first.
And post 2 above has tried to help you, I haven't read through that myself, but does that not address your query?
benty1 said:
There is a sticky on this matter.
Here it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
Edit: sorry.fixed link
Hit Thanks if I helped
Tapatalk 2
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Device: HTC Incredible S
Hboot: Revolutionary 6.13.10.1002
Recovery: 4EXT 1.0.0.5 RC5
ROM: We.Want.ICS.v4-NiKHiLL007
Radio: 3831.18.00.11_M
Kernal: Stock 3.0.16-g693e8e9
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world94 said:
Ah ok, I've unlocked the phone from HTC Dev but I can not root it because he is 4.0
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Next step is to install a custom Recovery and then you can SuperSU to get root.

tpbklake said:
Next step is to install a custom Recovery and then you can SuperSU to get root.
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I have installed CWM
What should I do after ?

world94 said:
I have installed CWM
What should I do after ?
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Search for SuperSu and read about how to download and install it. You will install the SuperSu zip file from CWM recovery.

It's good I'm root !
Now I want a Rom or all features are functional, that is Android 4.0 (or 4.1, I doubt it) without sourcouche, like the Nexus
Thank you

world94 said:
It's good I'm root !
Now I want a Rom or all features are functional, that is Android 4.0 (or 4.1, I doubt it) without sourcouche, like the Nexus
Thank you
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If you want no sense
Then take a look at ice cold sandwich!
My favourite atm
Sent from my Incredible S

Need Little help in Flashing ARHD ROM

Hi All..
I have GB 2.3.5 on Virtuous Unity installed...I want to Flash Android Rev HD ROM... Latest (4.0.4)...
My bootloader is S-Off via Revolutionary and it shows version HBoot-6.13.1002
Can someone tell me Do i have to update my Hboot to flash 4.0.4 ROM? and what else be done to be compatible with ARHD Rom...?
Thanks in Advance for ur time...

jjdoctor said:
Hi All..
I have GB 2.3.5 on Virtuous Unity installed...I want to Flash Android Rev HD ROM... Latest (4.0.4)...
My bootloader is S-Off via Revolutionary and it shows version HBoot-6.13.1002
Can someone tell me Do i have to update my Hboot to flash 4.0.4 ROM? and what else be done to be compatible with ARHD Rom...?
Thanks in Advance for ur time...
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Although the OP for ARHD 3.01 state that you need BlackRose 2.02.0002 installed, in reality you do not.
There are several members that are running ARHD 3.01 with Revolutionary 6.13, so you simply need to boot into recovery, make a 'nandroid' backup and then you can flash ARHD 3.01.

I was running with revolutionary and it worked fine. I just updated to Blackrose cuz I was bored but revolutionary worked good to.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S

The 6.13 revolutionary bootloader works fine with ARHD.
Be sure to make an nandroid backup incase something goes horribly wrong or you end up not liking the new ROM.
You'll also need to wipe your data partition, as your GB /data partition won't play nice with an ICS ROM. You'll get ridiculous amounts of force closes.

Hey JJ!
Good to see you here mate!
Seen a lot of your good work over on the Play forums
You got yourself an IncS S? and you gonna be dev'ing some roms here as well?
And yeah, like the others said no need to update the HBoot, ARHD works on both.
You could run the super wipe script included in the OP for a hassle free install

Guys, Tried placing the ROM in SD-Card and flashed the ROM as it is but got stuck in Bootloop...
Now what to do? Update HbOOT?
letmedanz said:
Hey JJ!
Good to see you here mate!
Seen a lot of your good work over on the Play forums
You got yourself an IncS S? and you gonna be dev'ing some roms here as well?
And yeah, like the others said no need to update the HBoot, ARHD works on both.
You could run the super wipe script included in the OP for a hassle free install
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Na Mate.. didnt get an Incredible - S, its grabbed from a friend who wants to install ICS ROM...
I got HTC Vivid which has the least developers support but a good phone ...

jjdoctor said:
Guys, Tried placing the ROM in SD-Card and flashed the ROM as it is but got stuck in Bootloop...
Now what to do? Update HbOOT?
Na Mate.. didnt get an Incredible - S, its grabbed from a friend who wants to install ICS ROM...
I got HTC Vivid which has the least developers support but a good phone ...
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Did you get it working? I'm actually a little surprised I'm not seeing more info in your post. What method did you use to flash, what recovery/version, did you do a full wipe? As there's so many users here confirming it installs with revolutionary hboot, it seems updating that is not the answer, might be an issue with your method.

Nonverbose said:
Did you get it working? I'm actually a little surprised I'm not seeing more info in your post. What method did you use to flash, what recovery/version, did you do a full wipe? As there's so many users here confirming it installs with revolutionary hboot, it seems updating that is not the answer, might be an issue with your method.
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Ok I got it to work...... Sorry my mistake... Didnt run the Super Wipe script... I never knew it was so important...flashed Superwipe script and then Flashed ROM and it worked like a charm...
Thank you all for helping out guys...:good:

Howie3045 said:
I was running with revolutionary and it worked fine. I just updated to Blackrose cuz I was bored but revolutionary worked good to.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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hi, i want to try ARHD rom, but cannot find the rom link in that thread .
where is it...

clyecao said:
hi, i want to try ARHD rom, but cannot find the rom link in that thread .
where is it...
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:good:
http://goo.gl/XvEJM