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[Q] to update or not to update

Just a quick question.
I have HTC IncS Sim free bought in UK.
I have S-OFF it using revolutionary and is rooted.
If i were to apply the OTA update will it work fine with my fone or do I need to S-ON it first and then apply the update.

you will need to revert to s-on first. beware, once you update, you might not be able to s-off. I read that the update comes with hboot 2.0. no one knows if it can be s-off'd.
if you want to keep the phone s-off, just flash arhd 2.1.0. Mike just updated the rom using the official update.

okay thanks alot.. So to revert it to S-ON again i believe i need to update to a stock rom but which rom should i be using for my base band version 20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M

read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555

I have read this but i do not know which version of stock rom would is for my device? how do i find that?
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try this. you should be able to deduce from reading the thread. if not, i'm sure someone can answer your question if you post in that thread. good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922

You sir are crazy. Is no one seriously not going to tell this guy not to do it? The ota update that was just released is a piece of crap, the roms on the dev section are light years ahead of the newest htc update. Don't do it!

I agree with "itsbeertimenow", you may wanna avoid the latest update as it includes hboot 1.16.000 and revolutionary will NOT work anymore.

itsbeertimenow said:
You sir are crazy. Is no one seriously not going to tell this guy not to do it? The ota update that was just released is a piece of crap, the roms on the dev section are light years ahead of the newest htc update. Don't do it!
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haha. i already suggested using arhd if he wants to keep s-off. what he does with the info i provided is his prerogative.
having said that, I agree with you beertime. if it were up to me, I would not switch to the official ota update.

katu2006 said:
I agree with "itsbeertimenow", you may wanna avoid the latest update as it includes hboot 1.16.000 and revolutionary will NOT work anymore.
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I actually read that it's hboot 2.0.
afaik, 1.16 can now be unlocked by downgrading then using revolutionary.
edit: here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697

syc7090 said:
I actually read that it's hboot 2.0.
afaik, 1.16 can now be unlocked by downgrading then using revolutionary.
edit: here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
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Hboot 2.0 is even worse...so no update for me.
Yeah, I know about the gold card option, which I will have to try at some point...but the risk involved is a bit concerning at the moment.
Anyway, I would advise against the update.

no update from me
my advice is to not update.
I was always a stock rom fan giving the reason, a. root involves a risk of bricking your phone and b. HTC was doing not bad on their sense UI IMO. (OK you could argue that but I personally believe so).
But this 3.0 update is just so not HTC, I don't see a big improvement of performance but the otherwise, and the UI feels like beta version of a custom rom.
check my recent post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383806
Also, consider other members' opinion on rooting back from stock 3.0, you'd better stay and wait.
H_H

moneyes said:
okay thanks alot.. So to revert it to S-ON again i believe i need to update to a stock rom but which rom should i be using for my base band version 20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M
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I have the same uk sim free phone. Im just interested to know which one did you pick in the end.? I'm not updating but i'm just interested.

Any reason to upgrade Hboot from 1.13?

I am @ 1.13, with S-off, unlocked, rooted and CM7. And reason to upgrade HBoot?
I have read other device forums, but did not see anything for this one.

Is you phone working how you want it to/efficient ?

Only reason to upgrade your hboot would be to cause frustration.

Lol... Yeah its fine.
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Then why change or tamper with something you can't see or feel benefit from lol.
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The only reason I see to upgrade hboot is to complicate things for yourself and make htc happy that you have to use there htcdev tool to unlock it again. That way they will always know if you have void your warrenty.

I just wasn't sure what, if any new functionality the newer hboots bring. Thanks all.
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malimal said:
I am @ 1.13, with S-off, unlocked, rooted and CM7. And reason to upgrade HBoot?
I have read other device forums, but did not see anything for this one.
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Hi, just came across this post and saw that you have HBOOT 1.13 and are rooted.
Could you pass on the directions link from where you got the instructions, been searching a lot but I mostly find all the methods deal with HBOOT 1.16 AND 2.0.
My Inc S is HBOOT-1.13.0000 with RADIO-3805.04.03.27_M.
Would be a real help if you could point me in the right direction.

Me_Saim said:
Hi, just came across this post and saw that you have HBOOT 1.13 and are rooted.
Could you pass on the directions link from where you got the instructions, been searching a lot but I mostly find all the methods deal with HBOOT 1.16 AND 2.0.
My Inc S is HBOOT-1.13.0000 with RADIO-3805.04.03.27_M.
Would be a real help if you could point me in the right direction.
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http://revolutionary.io

New to Htc Increadible S

Hello Friends
Previously i have Galaxy s
Just bought the device
I just need to know
How to rooting installing CWM and Which MIUI or CM9 Rom is stable

Welcome to community. I am sure if you go to development section you will find a complete thread about how to root your device
And I am using MIUI 2.3.9 (not updated latest 2.3.16 yet ) & must admit it's quite stable even they say it's beta ;-)
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium

Rooting guide is in dev section. Cm9 is not available yet we have cm7 or you can try one of the ics roms that devs have made. Ice cold is Probs the most stable ATM.
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tarunagg said:
Hello Friends
Previously i have Galaxy s
Just bought the device
I just need to know
How to rooting installing CWM and Which MIUI or CM9 Rom is stable
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Do you know your Hboot version? Is your phone S-Off or S-On.
if your hboot is 1.09.0000 or 1.13.0000 simply go to http://revolutionary.io/
if it is 1.16.0000 or 1.20.000 do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 and then this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
you dont have to do the second step, but it will give you s-off which is easier when it comes to flashing roms. S-off also allows you to flash custom kernels and radios

TaLEntZ96 said:
Do you know your Hboot version? Is your phone S-Off or S-On.
if your hboot is 1.09.0000 or 1.13.0000 simply go to http://revolutionary.io/
if it is 1.16.0000 or 1.20.000 do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105 and then this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
you dont have to do the second step, but it will give you s-off which is easier when it comes to flashing roms. S-off also allows you to flash custom kernels and radios
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Please stop giving misleading information. If users would like to gain s-off on hboot 1.16 and 2.00 they do not need to unlock bootloader first.

Nonverbose said:
Please stop giving misleading information. If users would like to gain s-off on hboot 1.16 and 2.00 they do not need to unlock bootloader first.
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i found that way easier for me so... yeah

Only reason to unlock bootloader I can see is to run custom roms without rooting phone, given though, I unlocked mine first so can't say whether or not it helped later on when I decided to root.

Virtuous Affinity 2.05 is a very good Sense Rom (www.virtuousrom.com).
IceColdSandwich 6.1 is a very good and stable working ICS Rom. Only camera is not working well.
Regards...

atrost said:
Virtuous Affinity 2.05 is a very good Sense Rom (www.virtuousrom.com).
IceColdSandwich 6.1 is a very good and stable working ICS Rom. Only camera is not working well.
Regards...
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Camera on IceColdSandwich 6.1.1 working quite well for me.

during the downgrade the first 2 steps are just to re lock the boot locker as the stock htc ruu don't get installed on a unlocked bootloader
its better for them not to unlock theirs as it will later give an error "security warning".
so its best to straight away run the downgrade ruu provided in the guide from fastboot

Best method to root Incredible S?

Hey guys, I'm new but i know abit bout rooting but in this forum there were 2 stickies on how to root the Inc S, (1. Downgrade Hboot to 1.13 and root
2. Use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader then root. BTW my phone is hboot 2.00 with gingerbread 2.3.5 and Sense 3! So what do you guys think is the best way to root and what advantages or disadvantages each method? Thanx

FallenSuisydal said:
Hey guys, I'm new but i know abit bout rooting but in this forum there were 2 stickies on how to root the Inc S, (1. Downgrade Hboot to 1.13 and root
2. Use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader then root. BTW my phone is hboot 2.00 with gingerbread 2.3.5 and Sense 3! So what do you guys think is the best way to root and what advantages or disadvantages each method? Thanx
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Downgrading and gaining S-OFF with Revolutionary is going to give you the best flexibility. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, there are extra steps you need to perform to flash a custom ROM, i.e. after you flash the ROM, you manually have to flash the boot.img file contained in the ROM.zip.
Not to mention the fact that you have to give HTC your phone's serial number to unlock the bootloader.

Thanks, But ...
tpbklake said:
Downgrading and gaining S-OFF with Revolutionary is going to give you the best flexibility. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCDEV.com, there are extra steps you need to perform to flash a custom ROM, i.e. after you flash the ROM, you manually have to flash the boot.img file contained in the ROM.zip.
Not to mention the fact that you have to give HTC your phone's serial number to unlock the bootloader.
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Thanks for that, but one more question (or two more actually.)
1. Which one is more stable and which one method is safe to root
2. If you have a Inc S, or if you did have one which method would/did you use!
Thanks

If you follow nonverbose's guide, then it should be no problem to downgrade and s-off, its quite easy actually
I have downgraded twice, wouldn't unlock with htcdev if I were you

Personally i used HTCdev, then nover's tool then S-OFF. All together it takes hardly any time at all and ive never once had an issue with my phone.

I used revolutionary and it worked very easy. Did it this week a few times after trying to get it back s-on and had zero problems getting it s-off.
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FallenSuisydal said:
Thanks for that, but one more question (or two more actually.)
1. Which one is more stable and which one method is safe to root
2. If you have a Inc S, or if you did have one which method would/did you use!
Thanks
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1. When you are modding your phone, you are always taking a chance that you will flash something unstable. With Revolutionary, you will be able to flash new kernels, radios and ROMs. With HTCDEV, you will be limited to flashing ROMs and kernels.
2. I didn't have to choose because I received my Bell Mobility IncS with S-OFF via the XTC Clip, so I have the upmost flexibility and stability.

I initially went the htcdev route which lasted a couple of days before I downgraded hboot (had 1.16) and went through revolutionary, if I had my time again I wouldn't bother unlocking through htcdev.

Thanks!
Thanks everyone, I will surely try out the downgrade from hboot 2.00 to 1.13 and user revolutionary! Once again, thanks!
EDIT: Also if I root using nonverbose's guide, which android version will i have and will i be able safe to upgrade to the official ICS when HTC gives it out?

FallenSuisydal said:
Thanks everyone, I will surely try out the downgrade from hboot 2.00 to 1.13 and user revolutionary! Once again, thanks!
EDIT: Also if I root using nonverbose's guide, which android version will i have and will i be able safe to upgrade to the official ICS when HTC gives it out?
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You will be on GB once you have rooted (as i assume thats what your on now) version like 2.3.3 etc will depend on each device. To get the official ICS you would have to un-root your phone - there are plenty of guides to tell you how. However you could just install a rom like playground or ice cold sandwich for an ICS look and feel however these are no-sense versions. We currently do not have a sense verion of ICS.

Way of keeping current firmware?
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You will be on GB once you have rooted (as i assume thats what your on now) version like 2.3.3 etc will depend on each device. To get the official ICS you would have to un-root your phone - there are plenty of guides to tell you how. However you could just install a rom like playground or ice cold sandwich for an ICS look and feel however these are no-sense versions. We currently do not have a sense verion of ICS.
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Hi, thanks vizzy
but if i use nonverbose's tutorial to root i will then possibly lose Sense 3.0 and 2.3.5 right? If so, is there a way i can keep my current firmware?

FallenSuisydal said:
Hi, thanks vizzy
but if i use nonverbose's tutorial to root i will then possibly lose Sense 3.0 and 2.3.5 right? If so, is there a way i can keep my current firmware?
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The RUU you have to install will have sense in it, i do not know which sense version but id assume its 3? Its just a generic sense RUU. ...But you could always install a sense ROM afterwards if you fancy something with more tweaks etc like Niks rom or any of the others.

which sense 3.5 ics rom sdo u recommend or which do u hv? also are there any sense 4 ics roms? fanks!
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No point trying sense 4 unless you can cope with all the bugs. I prefer no-sense rooms due to better battery. I'm using ics playground atm. If you want sense try ARHD?
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I would go either nik's trinity rom or playground ics
Both have awesome battery and performance if configured well
Keep in mind if you want rock solid, then sense GB is the way to go

[Q] Looking to S-ON need some help please :)

Hello, I'm with Bell Canada and I need to go back to stock everything
I'm atm
Blackrose
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
And I'd like to go to the latest rom for my Bell HTC Inc S
Help will be greatly appreciated!

noremac258 said:
Hello, I'm with Bell Canada and I need to go back to stock everything
I'm atm
Blackrose
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
And I'd like to go to the latest rom for my Bell HTC Inc S
Help will be greatly appreciated!
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It will be a sense 3.6 ROM... probably best for you to stay s off and use all the awesome sense 4.1 ROMs and the jellybean aosp ROMs
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It will be a sense 3.6 ROM... probably best for you to stay s off and use all the awesome sense 4.1 ROMs and the jellybean aosp ROMs
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda app-developers app

noremac258 said:
Hello, I'm with Bell Canada and I need to go back to stock everything
I'm atm
Blackrose
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
And I'd like to go to the latest rom for my Bell HTC Inc S
Help will be greatly appreciated!
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Since you have BlackRose HBOOT, the procedure to go back to S-ON and prepare your phone for an official HTC RUU is documented in the BlackRose thread; you just need to search, read and study before you begin.

tpbklake said:
Since you have BlackRose HBOOT, the procedure to go back to S-ON and prepare your phone for an official HTC RUU is documented in the BlackRose thread; you just need to search, read and study before you begin.
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I honestly looked through at least 10 pages and for the life of me I couldn't find it.

noremac258 said:
I honestly looked through at least 10 pages and for the life of me I couldn't find it.
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The information you need is located on the first post. When you uninstall BlackRose, it will replace it's S-OFF HBOOT with HTC stock HBOOT 1.13. Then you are ready to run an official HTC RUU.

tpbklake said:
The information you need is located on the first post. When you uninstall BlackRose, it will replace it's S-OFF HBOOT with HTC stock HBOOT 1.13. Then you are ready to run an official HTC RUU.
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Thank you Sir