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[Q] Dual boot?

I was wondering if dual booting would be possible on our phone? I've seen that the HD2 got winmo + android boot... But having some kind of Stable partition and a second "dev" one would be quite amazing...
Thanks!

I asked the same question, and my post was moved to Q and A. Most responses were that WinMo is not worthy of the hardware. WP7 didn't attract quite the same disdain.
I would really love to run WP7 on the captivate, and I think eventually someone will make it happen. I think WinMo would run amazingly smooth, but I doubt we'll ever find out.
The HD2 won't quite run android ROMs, you have to boot into WinMo, then restart in Android, but it is really easy to swap what "ROM" you are using. If the HD2 was capable of AT&T 3G, I would have one by now.
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Yes please to WP7 on Captivate. If nothing else i want to be able to run it for a few days to see how I like that new software. And check out the Xbox Live integration

yes, i only have one phone but would like to learn to do some basic development and it would be nice to have a stable rom to switch back to on the fly. i've had problems using nandroid and titanium backup. if anyone knows of a way to change to or add a secondary boot loader so multiple os's can be launched that would be awesome.
minmo might be a bit impractical but multiple android installations would be cool sweet.

Ok.. well get a checklist started on what you would need:
A custom bootloader that would work with the Captivate.. And I'm sure people would want the choice to pick the OS upon bootup instead of having to go into the recovery screen and booting up from there.
It would also have to be compatible with working Android and Win7
Someone would then have to find the source code to Win7 - or at least the SDK for it and develop in whatever language its written in.
Then someone would have to code the drivers for the Captivate and Win7 mobile.
Pretty much.. it wouldn't be any type of "take n' bake" task and would be quite the project involving a ton of work.
I'm sure someone out there in the world will come up with it.. I mean someone took the time to port Android to the iPhone - so it "could" happen.. but most likely won't due to the huge amount of work it will take.

avgjoegeek said:
Ok.. well get a checklist started on what you would need:
A custom bootloader that would work with the Captivate.. And I'm sure people would want the choice to pick the OS upon bootup instead of having to go into the recovery screen and booting up from there.
It would also have to be compatible with working Android and Win7
Someone would then have to find the source code to Win7 - or at least the SDK for it and develop in whatever language its written in.
Then someone would have to code the drivers for the Captivate and Win7 mobile.
Pretty much.. it wouldn't be any type of "take n' bake" task and would be quite the project involving a ton of work.
I'm sure someone out there in the world will come up with it.. I mean someone took the time to port Android to the iPhone - so it "could" happen.. but most likely won't due to the huge amount of work it will take.
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At least there's a Samsung Omnia 7. It has a 4" SAMOLED like ours. I hope it has more in common with us as well so it would make the process easier.

JayPhill89 said:
At least there's a Samsung Omnia 7. It has a 4" SAMOLED like ours. I hope it has more in common with us as well so it would make the process easier.
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if winmo gets ported great, if not oh well, if you read the op it was not to get winmo but just used the hd2 as an example of dual boot on a phone. a boot loader is a starting point so can the topic go in that direction? i just dont want naysayers to get confused and tell us every reason we wont get or dont want winmo.

You cannot just take the source code for WP7. It is not open source. You can port android to things, but not the other way around.

nbs11 said:
You cannot just take the source code for WP7. It is not open source. You can port android to things, but not the other way around.
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As Dani897 said, the thread is not about porting WP7 to our phone, but just having dual boot to be able to have (lets say) one stable rom and one dev rom on the same phone...

seriously want this to happen figure it out

WP7 on Captivate

Since I first knew that Captivates were hackable, I always wondered if there was any way to put WP7 on my phone. It isn't because I would have rather had a WP7, but it is simply because I want the option to. I find it hard to believe that none of you haven't imagine WP7 on your captivates. Recently trax26 made a theme of WP7 that looks simply amazing, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918) but, his barely sufficient tranlation makes it even harder for a small time programmer like myself to install it. The screenshots look amazing, but there is no way I can do that.
My question is: Does anybody else know of a simpler WP7 theme to install? A CWM theme would be ideal, but some minor hacking would be okay with me.
And if not, I would just like to put that out there as a suggestion for anybody whose up to it. I'm sure there are tons of people (including myself) who would beta it as much as possible, just so as long the feel is right.
Thanks in advance, Richard.

Look at metro ui in the market. It is a decent wp7 launcher. Some bugs but overall much better then trying the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.

flashman2002 said:
Look at metro ui in the market. It is a decent wp7 launcher. Some bugs but overall much better then trying the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
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Thanks a bunch and just wan to let you know you have a typo in your signature
EDIT: Although that is a good emulator, take a look at the link that i posted. That's what im looking for, full blow WP7 with the right symbols and everything (more or less). But thanks anyways.

Yea, it would be nice to have WP7 running on Cappy. After watching HD2 running WP7 on YouTube makes me eager to have it. But idk how. Lol.
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Yeah I know about my sig .
As for getting real wp7 it just wont happen. These themes and that II are probably the closest we will get. I figure the metro II is much easier than trying to do the process of the theme.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.

WP7? So you can deal with stuff like this? http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/237934.asp?from=blog_last3
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I'm not saying I want WP7 as my only operating system, because Android is far superior in almost everything, but I simply want it to be able to have the choice of having WP7. I would like to have the speed and hackability of Android, but have the simplicity of WP7. I have to say the tiles are probably the only thing that will keep WP7 going, because honestly, I think they are pretty cool. Metro is a decent simulator that gets the jist, of WP7 but it's actually too simple. The thing about WP7 is that it has cool simplicity by using colored and animated tiles.
And as for the quote "It will be a long time before WP7 comes to android" every rom has to start somewhere.

You'd need someone who could reverse engineer WP7 - then figure out how to use existing drivers or write new ones before WP7 could be installed on our Android phones.
There is no "Open Source" for Windows... ever.
Drivers would probably have to all be re-written or some type of hack so WP7 could work with existing drivers.
So... unless you know someone with a great amount of time - possibly can hack M$ and get the source code we probably won't be see this type of port soon.

well i use LG optimus 7 before i change to captivate just use it 1 month
then sell. What can i said... it actually very nice and really fast phone
and its wp7 is really pretty but it 2 simple and lack of app support for now.
cause its still new maybe another 1 or 2 years i will get it again.

Maybe i'm just not understanding, but im not asking for the windows sole operating system, im just asking for a themed windows 7 rom, or even better, a combination of the home screen on WP7 and the rest of it being android. Maybe thats too much to ask, but it doesnt seem like it.
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Maybe I didn't read your source post fully, but isn't that theme built for galaxy s phones, and only require launcherpro?
Granted I only glanced the post, but it didn't look too complex. If you can flash a ROM, that theme shouldn't be a big deal.
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Dupontrocks11 said:
Maybe i'm just not understanding, but im not asking for the windows sole operating system, im just asking for a themed windows 7 rom, or even better, a combination of the home screen on WP7 and the rest of it being android. Maybe thats too much to ask, but it doesnt seem like it.
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Android Phone 7 Theme
Google is your friend!
With all those widgets I wouldn't expect the battery to last half a day.

I read the entire post, and you need launcherpro plus to resize the widgets, which I dont have, and have no money to buy. Also, it's not a theme that you can flash, you need to do some extracting and coding via terminal. It may not be possible to make a complete WP7 theme that's flashable with Clockwork recovery, but I've seen many a theme that looks completely original. I don't know much about ROM writing (if i did i would have the WP7 theme on my phone and this post would be gone), but it seems like with all the amazing devoted themers on XDA, someone besides the before mentioned person, could create a wonderful flashable theme that does not require any money/hacking.

cappysw10 said:
Android Phone 7 Theme
Google is your friend!
With all those widgets I wouldn't expect the battery to last half a day.
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Wooww. This is truely what I wanted. My only question is, does it require and money and is it compatable with captivate? I only wish I could thank you twice haha
EDIT: Where is the tutorial?

Dupontrocks11 said:
Wooww. This is truely what I wanted. My only question is, does it require and money and is it compatable with captivate? I only wish I could thank you twice haha
EDIT: Where is the tutorial?
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The whole first post is a tutorial! Good luck!

Ok honestly, I don't want to try and screw with my phone, because I'm happy the way it is right now. I would really like to get a WP7 theme, but I think I'm going to wait until someone makes a SIMPLE theme, that you can flash and be done with HINT HINT HINT HINT.

Dupontrocks11 said:
Ok honestly, I don't want to try and screw with my phone, because I'm happy the way it is right now. I would really like to get a WP7 theme, but I think I'm going to wait until someone makes a SIMPLE theme, that you can flash and be done with HINT HINT HINT HINT.
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LoL yea i agree.. we just want wat we cant have.. but if we'd be stuck with it we'd be trying to get rid of it

Ive had a captivate since july and i love the phone even with numerous software problems right out of the box. I recently picked up unlocked HTC Surround and its awesome. That one comes with snapdragon processor 1 gig, same one in the HTC Evo 4g, and 512 mb ram and using the WP7 Os it is very fast right out of the box. It totally lacks customization unlike android os and no where the amount of apps and games android has, but the ones it does have are way better versions then the android ones, for example facebook and craiglist. And the xbox live game THE HARVEST is amazing. I would encourage anyone to try one out, very well done OS compared to the previous windows mobile os. I dont think ill sell my captivate because i love having option to choose from either android or Windows Phone 7. I just hope it catches on so it will soon have as many apps and games as Android.

Windows Phone 7 is a polished OS, but it won't even come close to Android or iOS for a VERY long time. And like I said early, It's not like I want WP7 instead of Android, but It's the reason that i CAN'T have WP7 that makes me want it. If anyone has any WP7 friends, give them the idea!

Have you looked into "Launcher7" ? Search it on the market.
If you just want a home theme that looks like WP7 this seems to be the easiest one going.
I think asking someone to port the whole WP7 OS over to a Cappy is probably not going to happen though.

[Q]What mods, roms, and OS's should I look into?

I will be getting a TouchPad in the next few days for around 100$, and I was wondering what kind of stuff I should look into if I just simply refuse to use it stock.
I have plenty of experience with Android Roms, and have done quite a number on my Nook Color, Milestone X (The non-Verizon Droid X), and my old HTC Hero.
But after browsing these forums and sub-forums a bit, I realized that there are just so many different choices when it comes to what your TouchPad is running.
I have seen Ubuntu and many different versions of linux, android, windows, and even just enhancing webOS.
What are the best choices and resources to get stared with? So I don't turn my new tablet into a cutting board.

LOL Cutting board...Nice
As far as Android is concerned we have CM9...which is pretty awesome...most nightlies are very stable...they have all the main mods and features....then we have AOKP, which is a kang on CM9 and we have other similar roms..most of them are kanged from CM9....There is ClassicNerd rom, which is not kanged from CM9, its faster but less features...
You can find most stuff related to Android or ubuntu dev here or rootzwiki...
WebOS enhancement can found here http://forums.webosnation.com/

Thanks, Viny.
Do you think you could point me in the direction of where I can get this "HP Doctor" thing explained?

grizzbud said:
Thanks, Viny.
Do you think you could point me in the direction of where I can get this "HP Doctor" thing explained?
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Buddy, for all the tweaks and mods for Webos, read this guide it has links to webOS doctor and easy instructions on how to use it..

I'm pretty curious about the Touchpad too. They're not as cheap here in europe, but I found a 32GB model for 260 Euros. I've fallen in love with the glossy black surfaces already and I'm dying to get my hands on one.
Is it a good idea? I'm dying to try out WebOS but at the same time, wanting to experience Android on a tablet. So this sounds like a perfect device.
What functionality do I gain if I load CM9 onto it as well? Can I attach external storage devices or a mouse via USB?

GigiAUT said:
I'm pretty curious about the Touchpad too. They're not as cheap here in europe, but I found a 32GB model for 260 Euros. I've fallen in love with the glossy black surfaces already and I'm dying to get my hands on one.
Is it a good idea? I'm dying to try out WebOS but at the same time, wanting to experience Android on a tablet. So this sounds like a perfect device.
What functionality do I gain if I load CM9 onto it as well? Can I attach external storage devices or a mouse via USB?
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with CM9/android, you get whole lot f functionality man. CM9/ICS on touchpad has most of the functionality except camera..and some audio issues...Once you go android, u might not go back to webos....

I highly recommend AOKP and ArchLinuxARM.
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What's the difference between AOKP and CM 9? I've installed CM9 and I'm pretty amazed so far. Just the problem with the much, webcam, and some, sound issues but otherwise, I love it.
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HP Touchpad or not

I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,
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The answers to every one of those questions is in the forum and there are several threads with practically the same questions. Please take the time to learn to SEARCH for your answers. You will always learn more if you look for info yourself rather than it just being handed to you
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All I will say is that you will love your TouchPad running ICS.

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome. The only issue remaining is the camera does not work
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ??? I dont EVER boot to WebOS, I strictly use Android ICS
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network. There is no internal hardware that will allow this, I don't know if there are any external products
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android. I get great battery life on mine, I also have it on a Touchstone when I am not using it. Again I never use WebOS, so I have no experience.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
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I LOVE my TP(32Gig). I got a mine for a great price, and can't imagine I'd get much better for 4x the money of what I spent

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,
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My two cents;
If you like ICS and the 10 inch size the TP is great! I have a Kindle Fire running ICS which I really like but I find myself using the TP much more often. It is faster, smoother, and more storage.
WebOS is a really cool OS but the lack of apps pretty much ruins it for me, I never use it other than just messing around with it to learn more about it, I have very few apps for WebOS. If you want a wide selection of cheap and free apps for kids, Android has plenty of these.
No idea on the usb modem, but it tethers great to every mobile wifi hotspot (android phones) that I have tried.
Battery life is good if you ask me. Maybe not as good as my wife's Ipad 2 but I use the TP a lot more for video than her, which eats battery.
I like the TP so much I bought a second one so that we now have a tablet for every kid on road-trips, it's fantastic

I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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If you say that ICS isn't developed enough then you still have a lot to read
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noob
I just bought a 32GB last week, but still haven't received it. I have questioned numerous sources and they say that the CM nightlies are reliable.

knickerblogger said:
I just bought a 32GB last week, but still haven't received it. I have questioned numerous sources and they say that the CM nightlies are reliable.
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I can fortunately say that I have no issues running the unofficial nightlies with TWRP recovery and nightly differential updates
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janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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I think ICS runs great on it. I have not run into any problems that a quick search on xda didn't fix easily (and most of those were caused by me screwing with things just for fun that I didn't fully understand).
It works flawlessly enough that my kids (as young as 4) and wife (as tech savvy as the 4yr old) use it all the time and have never had a single problem. They are able to install and use all the apps they want and more.

janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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I personally believe that if you don't give it a try, you'll be short changing yourself. There are a few VERY good ICS ROM's out there right now. The only reason I ever change ROM's at this point, is because I am a flash whore. The current ROM I am on, has NOTHING going wrong with it, aside from the camera not working yet(it is being worked on). That for me is a non-issue, but may be for others. I can honestly say that it is more solid than the ROM's I run in my phone.

Is anyone else excited about the thought of Ubuntu for Bionic?

I keep thinking, we'll have convergence on the Bionic. On stock, it already had convergence, but with hardware acceleration and a stable build, we could get performance similar to that of a Chromebook in a Phone. In addition, we can dual boot, so we have Android AND Ubuntu. Is anyone else excited about it, or is it just me who's a fan of convergence?

Convergence could be very cool
I would love to see Ubuntu on any phone. The Ubuntu Edge idea looks awesome, but I think having the ability to use my Android phone and then run Ubuntu by connecting to a tv or monitor would make my phone even more useful.
Someone smarter than me should make it happen!

ifly85 said:
having the ability to use my Android phone and then run Ubuntu by connecting to a tv or monitor would make my phone even more useful.
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Gingerbread on the Bionic did this, with webtop (2.0?). The original/stock build was quite clunky and slow, but a very cool idea. Some people even stripped the build down, added in the rest of the arm build of Ubuntu, set up swap partitions, and ended up with amazing and ideal setups.
I would love to see this idea come back around in android devices. Alas, chroot with vnc is the closest to that dream at the moment.
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