Is there any burn in on galaxy note?I have a s8500 and have some horrible burn in like clock,am pm,signal bars,alarm,so many horizontal and vertical lines ! !Is this too present on NOTE?My s8500 is about 1.5 yrs old and started to show burn in 2monts after i bought.
And i also want to know the difference between the saturation of note vs s2
Which one is better, samoled vs samoled +?
Thankx in advance
I believe its too early to say anything about the screen burn. I have owned the phone since November, and my screen seams fine so far. If you are that worried about it, you can install launchers that hide the status bar, or allow transitions in the start pages.
Regarding the saturation, the S II is too saturated causing unreal colors. No idea if that changed with ICS though. You should head over to SII forums for that. The Note displays colors closer to what they really are. They still are a bit saturated though.
As far as amoled+ vs amoled HD is concerned, I would suggest the later. 1280x800 with 5.3 inch screen looks much better than 4.3 with 800x480. In the end, its your choice. Compare the 2 in hand and pick what fits your needs.
I've had mine since November also. I have a black wallpaper with white Android logo in center. Have noticed that the Android image will faintly show on dark app backgrounds, am a little concerned. It's very faint.
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Today looking a white image I saw that I already have burn in in the status bar with their icons.
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Today looking a white image I saw that I already have burn in in the status bar with their icons.
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Trick for status bar burn in is to switch between 12 and 24 hour clocks every week. It shifts everything over slightly
Also depending on the launcher you use. You can hide the dock and status bar
Just to clarify things...
The burn in problem is not specific to some AMOLED based models!
All AMOLED based phones will get the burn in problem sooner or later!
I just recently switched from a Black Note to a White one, the first had a bit more than four months use and I noticed that the screen, while not burned in, wasn't as bright as it used to be and I found myself increasing the brightness more and more month after month. Then when I switched to a White Note, wow, I didn't remembered how bright the screen was initially!
So yes, our beloved Notes suffer from that Burn-in problem just like any other AMOLED smartphone.
Also, take caution when using it outside, since our screens also degrade under extended periods of UV light exposure! No matter if the screen is on or off!
Another good reason to use a Super LCD based screen like the one on the One X.
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Yes the note can suffer from pixel wear a.k.a. burn out.
To prevent this:
Use launchers that hide the notification bar on home screens.
Don't use apps that don't have the option to hide the notification bar.
Use full screen browsing with browsers such as Opera Mobile
And don't leave static images on the phone for extended periods of time.
And for the love of god don't use a cradle or docking station because that will destroy your screen! Think about it? Leaving your phone on all day at work in its docking station showing the time and weather. What do you think is going to happen to that screen?
No burn in here at all, heavy user since Note launch.
I have always used Opera though which allows full screen mode so my status bar is always obscured during web browsing and games.
Thank god I didnt buy one of those yet. I mean who releases a phone that has these problems? The AT&T store is a good example of burn-in. You see the low brightness, lines and butned in launcher icons. Thats what has held me back so far.
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Thank god I didnt buy one of those yet. I mean who releases a phone that has these problems? The AT&T store is a good example of burn-in. You see the low brightness, lines and butned in launcher icons. Thats what has held me back so far.
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Not trolling, that is what i saw when messing with any amoled screen device in the att store. When browsing or navigating through screens i would see launcher icons. These were display devices though. I did want a Note but this is what scared me from it. The SGS2 also exhibited this behavior. So now to see if the SGS3 does the same thing, i'm due for an upgrade and want to try a different device other than the iPhone (pending what the iPhone 5 brings). I also noticed lines(greenish hues) when viewing white webpages, but this was strictly on the Note, not the SGS2 or Skyrocket variant.
So I do believe this is strictly related to the amoled displays because reading other topics i see this being issue being brought up often(Q&A section of this sub forum has screen issues brought up often). I'm just concerned because I did want a Note, waiting for ICS and keep reading about it(that is why I am here). My last visit to the AT&T store made me search for those issues. If I am going to buy something I want it to work for 2 years without fail.
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So now to see if the SGS3 does the same thing
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The SGS3 does the same thing.
Yes the Note experiences burn in ESPECIALLY with STATIC images. The android status bar is a static image so it will wear out all the amoled LED's near the top of the screen especiall the blue LED's.
If you set your lock screen time out to like 1 minute then after a few months you will begin to see the amoled pixel wear. To see this, view your screen on an all Blue, Gray or Green background.
As vibrant and beautiful as Amoled is I would prefer a super LCD screen on my Note.
Why cant just the dev create a transparent status bar?
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Ive had mine since december and use my phone loads and i had a massive burn in from status bar, so sent it off the samsung for a new screen, they repleced fine nd had it back in a week. Screen is sweet now, i now use fullscreen browsing on my phone because thats when i mostly uae my note, hopeully i houldnt suffer as bad now.
That is bad. I have to cancel may NOTE plan and go for the less desirable optimus VU. My phone activity requires to much static moments like thinking long at a chessboard.
I have 3 notes 2 black and 1 white.. Entire family uses note.. Both the blacks have burn in on top.. Visible in all blue or grey background.. Black's have been used for 8-9months while white is just 5months old..
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Check out the burn in on this...
Have had my Note since november, I'm not experiencing any burn-in whatsoever.
SGS2 has an RGB layout which will burn in faster.
The blue pixels in AMOLED displays suffer the worst from degradation.
As a pentile layout uses a shared green pixel for the red and the blue, the red and blue pixels are smaller.
Therefore degradation is less noticeable. But it will happen eventually.
In fact one of the reasons Samsung has switched to a pentile layout for the Note and SGS3 is because of the longevity of their panels.
I'm very curious about the Note 2 screen as I understand it's RGB.
My dad has a SGS2 and the burn-in was absolutely horrible.
He wen't to a service center and screen burn-in was covered by Samsung's two year warranty.
No problems there.
Cheers,
Daan
DaanJordaan said:
Have had my Note since november, I'm not experiencing any burn-in whatsoever.
SGS2 has an RGB layout which will burn in faster.
The blue pixels in AMOLED displays suffer the worst from degradation.
As a pentile layout uses a shared green pixel for the red and the blue, the red and blue pixels are smaller.
Therefore degradation is less noticeable. But it will happen eventually.
In fact one of the reasons Samsung has switched to a pentile layout for the Note and SGS3 is because of the longevity of their panels.
I'm very curious about the Note 2 screen as I understand it's RGB.
My dad has a SGS2 and the burn-in was absolutely horrible.
He wen't to a service center and screen burn-in was covered by Samsung's two year warranty.
No problems there.
Cheers,
Daan
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The Galaxy S was pentile and it was notorious for burn out. I dont think rgb is any better or worse than pentile when it comes to amoled wear.
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I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
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But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
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They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
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Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
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Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
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I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?
Hi
i have two Samsung galaxy s i9000
One screen looks a bit dull and slightly pink and the other looks really clear.
The dull one is old.
Both have been flashed with the same Rom and are both set us the same
They should be all the same. Are both phones the same origin-carrier?
Sounds like a problem with the pinkish one. Is your kernel voodoo color enabled ?
(But if the phone is old, it may be that the screen is getting, well, used.)
we sell phones, we have brand new and second hand units, regarding the lcd... sometimes if we change lcd screen theres a different resolution between the china-made lcd which is cheaper than the original lcd we sell. did you.change the kcd before? is it second hand unit
Neither phone has had a screen replaced. I've had both from new.
The pink on is 14 months old and the other is two months old.
Only noticed the old one looks poor when i got the new one.
Ill try take a pic.
Will have to use each phone to do it no camera.
A video of quadrant would really show you. Ill see if i can use my mates phone later
Im sure i read somewhere ages ago that the screen can get burnt like with the really old big back monitors do you think it could be that.
There are no marks like battery or the signal bars like you would expect.
Its like someone messed with the colour and contrast or something
they are both amoled screens, right?
usually it shoult last longer than one year, but amoled has a really short lifetime, compaired to all anorganic screens (e. g. LCD)
expecially the blue subpixels (physicaly more energetic than read light) gets weard out a lot faster
and organic screens get weard faster if they get hot or warmer than they should (cooling the screen extends lifetime (in a bag <-> close to the body)
but this are just some background informations, i cant really imagine that a amoled screen is used up in around a year
try to flash a new and a same ROM
then tell us
this may reset all reselutıon parameter on both of them
Maybe the new one is Galaxy SL. Samsung stopped production on i9000 and started making i9003 with super clear LCD displays. Maybe the new one is that.
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
But Super amoled screen display a pinkish white when viewed from the side. This was eleminated when Samsung put sclcd displays. So, the old one may be amoled and new one sclcd
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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Thats right, middle brightness is not so clear.
My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
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What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
Questions go in the Q&A section.
I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
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Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps
Received my Note 8 11 days ago and I was now looking at a gray picture in my gallery when I noticed the navbar was already burnt into the screen (and the buttons, too). It's barely noticeable, but can definitely be seen if you know what you're looking for.
I've now checked my Nexus 6P which I've been using for a bit more than a year before the Note 8 arrived and it also has the navbar burn-in, but it's as barely noticeable as the Note's one, and that's scary. 1 year of usage and it has the same burn-in as an 11-day old Note 8.
Now, the question is: Am I alone?
P.S: Download a gray image (I've attached one for you) and view it fullscreen with max brightness to test it.
Not even gonna bite. If it's there, I don't want to know about it haha
I was really hoping that screen burn in was a thing of the past. My Note 4 had major burnin with the status bar at the top of the screen within the first year of owning it. It's ridiculous and one of the main things that makes me want to avoid OLED screens. LCD screens may be inferior to OLED in most ways, but at least you don't get burn in Burn in within a few days of ownership would have to be a record.
My phone is supposed to finally arrive on Monday. If this is a thing, then I'll just send it back. A lot of money to spend on a device with that flaw.
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Received my Note 8 11 days ago and I was now looking at a gray picture in my gallery when I noticed the navbar was already burnt into the screen (and the buttons, too). It's barely noticeable, but can definitely be seen if you know what you're looking for.
I've now checked my Nexus 6P which I've been using for a bit more than a year before the Note 8 arrived and it also has the navbar burn-in, but it's as barely noticeable as the Note's one, and that's scary. 1 year of usage and it has the same burn-in as an 11-day old Note 8.
Now, the question is: Am I alone?
P.S: Download a gray image (I've attached one for you) and view it fullscreen with max brightness to test it.
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I don't see any burn in
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No burn in here and I've had my phone since 9/11. I use it A LOT as well.
Nope. No burn-in here also.
I haven't experienced any burn-in effects since Note 2, but I used that one for navigation almost every day for years.
On my Note 4. It's only there if I go out of my way to look for it. I'm sure the Note 8 will be the same. If you snoop around for flaws, it's there on all phones.
Not on mine. Been using since 9/6
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On my Note 4. It's only there if I go out of my way to look for it. I'm sure the Note 8 will be the same. If you snoop around for flaws, it's there on all phones.
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Yea. My Note 4 is really bad, but it's also three years old.
But after only 11 days?
I have Note 3 since 2013 , used it for over 3 yrs as my daily driver and honestly I have no idea what do you people talk about, there is absolutely nothing resembling burn in on that screen, do I need to add there is no burn in on my new Note 8 either? Come to think of it over the years I also had Galaxy S3, S5, S8 and never seen burn in on those either. I've seen burn in on LCD screens, I couldn't believe it, I don't know how, but I've seen it, however after years of use.
Isn't navbar supposed to disappear after a while, until you bring it up again, or OP locked it in?
No burn in on my Australian Note 8, but it is only 7 days old...
what is the attachment supposed to show? im seeing this on a desktop computer and i don't see anything.
i took your poll. no screen burn in.
OLEDs will always be subject to burn in due to how they work. Since each subpixel is for a SINGLE color, they will age differently because they're not all going to be on at the same time (ex: a pure red will not have green or blue subpixels active, so red would age faster than the other two if left on for days). The larger ones, usually blue, will need more voltage to excite it than the smaller ones (almost always green, as we see more of the green spectrum than blue--look at a CIE colorspace chart and you'll see very little "blue" compared to green). More voltage = faster aging.
This will NEVER be eliminated, and will always happen using current OLED technology (read: need alternative to currently used organic materials not subject to electric decay/aging).
HOWEVER, don't worry about this. For a user to actually introduce image burn in you will need to have your screen BRIGHT (250+ nits at least) AND have a STATIC IMAGE being shown for DAYS.
I'm 99% positive that any image burn in reports, that have NOT done the above, is not image burn in but Image Retention (aka image persistence).
Image Retention is TEMPORARY, and is mostly from electrical build up in display components and will go away once the build up has discharged (pixel is off for a while). On LG OLED HDTVs there is an option to "clear panel noise" which is what this does; don't know if other manufactures have a similar option available.
Alternatively you can add build up to improve screen uniformity by looking at a pure white screen for a few minutes. (google "jscreenfix" to see what I mean by colored noise. There is an old jscreenfix.jar file that's no longer hosted on their site for offline and full screen use. I don't know if it would work on androids as it was made back in Windows XP days).
Again, I'd like to put emphasis on the difference between "image burn in" and "image retention". At a glance they will look identical.
How Samsung has their "always on display" may make finding which you may have difficult. It's possible that the screen is still getting power even with the phone OFF depending on how the circuits and internal components draw power from the internal battery (read: OFF may be an extreme form of SLEEP where the absolute minimum of power is flowing through components if they used some more exotic designs for the sake of reliability).
The nav icons move although it's much more subtle than the AOD, just enough to prevent their burning in. It's a little image retention, rest easy tonight.
Mine looks good
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Mine there's a mark from waze report button so strong when the screen is white or more light.
No burn. Wife's S7 edge had Facebook burn terrible, and my S8+ had Google maps burn in a couple months. Screen burn occurs most quickly with screen at Max brightness.
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Nope, no burn in.
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OLEDs will always be subject to burn in due to how they work. Since each subpixel is for a SINGLE color, they will age differently because they're not all going to be on at the same time (ex: a pure red will not have green or blue subpixels active, so red would age faster than the other two if left on for days). The larger ones, usually blue, will need more voltage to excite it than the smaller ones (almost always green, as we see more of the green spectrum than blue--look at a CIE colorspace chart and you'll see very little "blue" compared to green). More voltage = faster aging.
This will NEVER be eliminated, and will always happen using current OLED technology (read: need alternative to currently used organic materials not subject to electric decay/aging).
HOWEVER, don't worry about this. For a user to actually introduce image burn in you will need to have your screen BRIGHT (250+ nits at least) AND have a STATIC IMAGE being shown for DAYS.
I'm 99% positive that any image burn in reports, that have NOT done the above, is not image burn in but Image Retention (aka image persistence).
Image Retention is TEMPORARY, and is mostly from electrical build up in display components and will go away once the build up has discharged (pixel is off for a while). On LG OLED HDTVs there is an option to "clear panel noise" which is what this does; don't know if other manufactures have a similar option available.
Alternatively you can add build up to improve screen uniformity by looking at a pure white screen for a few minutes. (google "jscreenfix" to see what I mean by colored noise. There is an old jscreenfix.jar file that's no longer hosted on their site for offline and full screen use. I don't know if it would work on androids as it was made back in Windows XP days).
Again, I'd like to put emphasis on the difference between "image burn in" and "image retention". At a glance they will look identical.
How Samsung has their "always on display" may make finding which you may have difficult. It's possible that the screen is still getting power even with the phone OFF depending on how the circuits and internal components draw power from the internal battery (read: OFF may be an extreme form of SLEEP where the absolute minimum of power is flowing through components if they used some more exotic designs for the sake of reliability).
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Indeed. Very well written post. Thank you for taking the time to write it. My understanding is the same as yours. When I just read the OP's post I thought oh hell here we go again.
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No burn in on my note 8 at all, but it's only 8 days old.
I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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ankydu said:
I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
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dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
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The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
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The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
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yeah i just double checked an your right thy did.
what models re you buying? us or international?
also you might want to try and condition your screen.
oled tools is but one example of apps that display static images at full brightness.
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I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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Most people wouldn't notice.
I've had a SGSII, a Note 4 and I'm currently using a Note 8. All of SAMOLED displays have been really good with no issue as you have described.
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The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
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You do know that Sony is failing in the smartphone department right? They currently in the same situation as LG. Unfortunately, the screen won't save their smartphone division.
Edit: Playstation is where Sony gets their money these days. Sad to see.
"A growing thorn in Sony’s side is its mobile handset business which counts its revenue, primarily from its Xperia line of handsets under the Mobile Communications segment. Sales of $6.88 billion were down 5% from the previous year and the group posted a loss of $255 million.
The mobile communications group guided to a further 12% drop in sales for fiscal 2018 and a projected loss of $138 million. The group does see some light at the end of the tunnel – 5G wireless technology."
They gave been losing money year over year, quarter over quarter man. Their lack of innovation is dragging them down like LG.
By the way, last edit. Sony didn't make that OLED screen. LG Display did.
Displaymate rated the Note 9 as having the best display ever on a mobile phone. Just as they did for the S9, and Note 9 before that. Pretty much every new top of the line Samsung device trumps the best there was before it.... and the best there was has pretty much always been on a Samsung device. Sammy makes the best displays.
In any case, you can find other very good displays on other phones that look pretty much as good, but when a place like Displaymate puts a "best ever" sticker on a device's display, it is for a reason. Note 9 display is not much different than the Note 8 display for instance, but it is enough of an improvement to warrant the top billing from Displaymate.
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The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
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Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
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Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
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that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
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and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
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that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
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and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
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Actually,it appears to be nothing more than a marketing company hired by Sony:
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/testresults/xperia-xz3/
https://www.strategyanalytics.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=1051783
All companies on this level tend to use such garbage "research" for marketing,all claims like this should come with an e-coupon code for a pinch pound of salt.
What's worse is peeps getting their panties in a wad,feeling the need to either rationalize their choice in phones,trolling those that have "x" phone,& the fanboi behavior that's fueled by the fluff articles.
The Note 9 is a nice phone,got one myself.
Is it the absolute best out there? In the eye of the beholder & nothing more.
Others choosing something else is equally fine,one would be hard-pressed to actually find a truly terrible phone w/o intentionally seeking one out.
Note 9 earpiece smudges won't go away
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
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Ahmed
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
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Take it back & exchange for a new one.
Any attempts to fix it on your own will likely make it worse.
Don't waste a minute waiting for home remedies here, utilize the return/exchange policy for a free replacement before that period expires.
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All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
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No
Just looked at a note 9 i have and the note 8 and using chrome on a white (blank) home screen i dont see any color shift at the top or bottom or anywhere on the screen.
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All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
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I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
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My Note 9 has an even white color across the whole screen. It also has a bit truer whites than my Note 8. Part of that may be that my Note 8 is now a year old, but overall I believe Samsung tuned the contrast down a bit on the Note 9 from the Note 8. Just to be clear, I am using the exact same display settings on both phones.... so I am getting an accurate comparison of the Note 9 vs Note 8. There is very little difference, you'd have to literally be looking at them side by side to notice the slight difference.
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
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looks as if you have a glass or plastic film. the cutout of the speaker is to high for it being the original glass
Compare home screen icons on the note 8 and note 9. Let me know what difference you see. I see the note 9 not being as sharp. But then on the same token , the note 9 like I said earlier is more natural and appeasing to the eyes.
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I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
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Exactly that is what I am trying to say. The screen is beautiful with the best whites I have seen on a amoled screen and its pretty even as well. But my eyes seem quite sensitive to screens and I also feel the top is somewhat darker.
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