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Nexus S vs Vivid

I just got offered a flawless Nexus S for my Vivid (has a cracked screen). Do you guys think I should take the offer?
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tanner4137 said:
I just got offered a flawless Nexus S for my Vivid (has a cracked screen). Do you guys think I should take the offer?
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Depends of you're going to miss sense or not. Also, isn't the screen smaller?
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slapshot30 said:
Depends of you're going to miss sense or not. Also, isn't the screen smaller?
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I HATE Sense lol. I'm already buying the galaxy nexus and was planning on selling my vivid, but the nexus s is in really good shape! Guess I'll have 2 Nexus devices
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Dual core for single core ???
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Guess its a preference thing...I like sense...especially compared to touch wizzard and motocrap...sense is a little 'heavy' with 4.0 though..can't wait for damn bootloader to be unlocked...but that's just first hurdle..
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I've seen sense clocks on many other devices trying to imitate the sense's look. Why not just try a custom launcher, you'll do that anyways on any other device
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you can always flash a custom AOSP rom like virtuous inquisition or the wajee one and get rid of sense.

I have virtuous ROM, but I'm going ahead and trading my vivid for the nexus s.
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Vivid Rocks man , anyday

I can't really find a phone worthy to replace my vivid yet. Of course something similar or a little better, yes, bu not that "wow" device. The direction some manufacturers go (no sd card or removable battery, even quad-core with lte) I guess I'll keep it for at least 9-12 more months.
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I can't really find a phone worthy to replace my vivid yet. Of course something similar or a little better, yes, bu not that "wow" device. The direction some manufacturers go (no sd card or removable battery, even quad-core with lte) I guess I'll keep it for at least 9-12 more months.
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I just bought the Galaxy Nexus and am LOVING it I still have my Vivid, but am thinking of selling it.
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I wanted to see how cracked is your screen is. Can you post up some pics of it...?
Edit: NVM found it...

you can always flash a sensless rom. then you might fall in love with the vivid again. once you rip out sense and att apps, the device starts to perform

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I wanted to see how cracked is your screen is. Can you post up some pics of it...?
Edit: NVM found it...
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Want to buy?

zeppler said:
you can always flash a sensless rom. then you might fall in love with the vivid again. once you rip out sense and att apps, the device starts to perform
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Thanks, but already tried that! Its pretty close to the Nexus, but I still like the Nexus more I highly reccomend BOTH of these phones!

NO new rom,NO new kernel,Very Low Update, (this is the end of vivid life?)

HTC Vivid topic is very quiet.
NO new rom
NO New kernel
Very Low update for roms (only De-sensed and Holics have some activate), and i think this low activate goes very soon.
so this is the end of Vivid dev life ?

No there are many good roms out there
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No there are many good roms out there
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i know have many rom before. but it's so many time that don't have new rom. or some of them have bug and not fixed (like signalbar in de-sensed and miui)

Looks like we have 5 currently working roms, several on hold and also looks like they are being updated regularly.
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This phone isn't very popular. We aren't gointo be seeing much more development going on for it and the ROMs that are out there cover all the bases our community is capable of. That being said...every build that's out there right now is very solid and generally a joy to use. If you want a hundred sub-par ROMs to choose from, then by all means sell your phone and get a new one.
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The developers have hit a wall with ril issues so that best thing can really do is give us good tweaked stock roms. The issue is HTC didn't make the phone very developer friendly
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l0000l said:
HTC Vivid topic is very quiet.
NO new rom
NO New kernel
Very Low update for roms (only De-sensed and Holics have some activate), and i think this low activate goes very soon.
so this is the end of Vivid dev life ?
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My kernel doesn't need to be updated. Likewise roms shouldn't need to be updated regularly. If you want buggy roms or kernels that need updating a lot I would advise a different device
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kozmikkick said:
My kernel doesn't need to be updated. Likewise roms shouldn't need to be updated regularly. If you want buggy roms or kernels that need updating a lot I would advise a different device
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i know your rom and kernel are now best for vivid. i use your rom and kernel. i mean add a new feature like usb otg.
(why HTC don't use usb otg? even OneX don't have this. but most of samsung have this. i think that's very important for a modern phone.)
or nobody work on jelly bean (in next forum worked but know is closed)

I'm still lost as to why we can't get a working sense 4.0 Rom.
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l0000l said:
i know your rom and kernel are now best for vivid. i use your rom and kernel. i mean add a new feature like usb otg.
(why HTC don't use usb otg? even OneX don't have this. but most of samsung have this. i think that's very important for a modern phone.)
or nobody work on jelly bean (in next forum worked but know is closed)
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I think USB otg Lso is dependent on hardwaren...could be wrong...and these roms already have plenty of features...have you used leedroid tweaks?
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I'm still lost as to why we can't get a working sense 4.0 Rom.
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Because HTC has s*** coding, doesn't provide source, when they do its s*** and a mess, att just adds to the troubles
The main problem is the rills...basically the devs can't figure out how to get signal -that's in really basic terms for the non-tech people...there's obviously more to it...
Not sure why everyone is so crazy about sense 4...looks the same to me...what we really need is a solid (real) aosp Rom...bot One based off sense...one built from source...preferbally cm9/10...either one...
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Yeah I really don't care much for htc enlight of this phone and my flyer (Cut my losses with it to get a nexus 7). My captivate was my 4th straight Samsung and I was always impressed with HTCs build quality and Sense looked cool so I thought I'd give them a chance. But now they'll never get my business ever again.
CM was always an option until I got these htc pieces of crap. I'm pretty strapped for cash at the moment but when I get back on track financially I'm buying a Nexus phone, either the gnex or its successor if it's out by then. As I've found from my Nexus tab with pure android an the most current version of android the desire to root is pretty weak
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I don't know about you but my phone stays updated and I get new kernals every other week it seems like ....
The Rom.of choice for me is wcx illuminati mod build ....google wcx illuminati and join the forum to get it
#FTW WCX
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randong said:
I don't know about you but my phone stays updated and I get new kernals every other week it seems like ....
The Rom.of choice for me is wcx illuminati mod build ....google wcx illuminati and join the forum to get it
#FTW WCX
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can you explain more about it

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can you explain more about it
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He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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bswann said:
He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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bswann said:
He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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Wasn't banned ....he left and had all his stuff taken down....and if you look at some of his post it will say guest and not banned ....
And he is still making VERY GOOD builds
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I don't know why all of develpers can't work together.
every of them have a good knowledge about one piece (gps , sound , ril , ...)
there is any way to get all vivid devs together ?

randong said:
Wasn't banned ....he left and had all his stuff taken down....and if you look at some of his post it will say guest and not banned ....
And he is still making VERY GOOD builds
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Oh, OK. I wasn't around when all that happened. His builds are more than very good, lol.
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I just broke my screen. called asurion.. got myself a brand new HOX!!! PROFIT!!!

I really hope the Vivid gets some more Roms I just bought this phone 2 months ago and enjoy it and would like to see some more development
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Sense 5.0 port for Vivid

Just wondering if it will ever happen when Sense 5 comes out
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Just wondering if it will ever happen when Sense 5 comes out
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You're kidding right?

Why not? I expect to see a ('legal') Sense 4+ very soon

really? lol its been hard enough to get sense 4.1

There's at least three different ROMs from across the pond.
And I think one may be clean.
At least it appears to provide the option of what tweaks not to install.
But I'm not that knowledgeable to be able to check for sure.
Right now I'm running one without using those tweaks as a daily driver and haven't had any issues.
Lately I've been reading up a lot more on developing to better understand 'what's under the hood' so that I don't step on any toes.

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There's at least three different ROMs from across the pond.
And I think one may be clean.
At least it appears to provide the option of what tweaks not to install.
But I'm not that knowledgeable to be able to check for sure.
Right now I'm running one without using those tweaks as a daily driver and haven't had any issues.
Lately I've been reading up a lot more on developing to better understand 'what's under the hood' so that I don't step on any toes.
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Me too I really love sense and even thou there is CM10 out i keep coming back to sense thats why i bought HTC why else would I do that ? Am really hoping a Legal comes out am actually gonna try do a port of a Darksense sense 4.1

who knows! Maybe sense 5 will be easier to port

What's the difference between sense 4.1 and sense 4+. I have the managed version of 4.1 but am wondering if I'm missing out..
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What do you have?
Hey guys. I just got an account today. I've had the Vivid since Winter 2011 and really want some Jelly Bean on my device and still have another year until my contract ends.
Do you guys have jelly bean on your Vivid? And is it stable? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jeefo519 said:
Hey guys. I just got an account today. I've had the Vivid since Winter 2011 and really want some Jelly Bean on my device and still have another year until my contract ends.
Do you guys have jelly bean on your Vivid? And is it stable? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I'm running the PACMAN Rom and it's pretty stable

AW: Sense 5.0 port for Vivid
Cyanogenmod 10 is basic and more stable in few weeks or months it comes the final update
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Cyanogenmod 10 is basic and more stable in few weeks or months it comes the final update
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but PACman is better.

Cm10 official+sultan kernel= beast
HTC Vivid with Sense 4+ ICS 4.0.4

Lets all hope for more development on the Vivid.
Regarding those Sense 4 and 4.1 ROMs that some of you have, do any of them have a working FM radio? or have you heard of a fix for it?
Thanks in advance

Doesnt work on mine. Never even tried until you asked. Too many radio/music apps to choose from, so no loss for me.
HTC VIVID ICS 4.0.4 SENSE 4.1

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Hey Homeslice ive been trying to install your sense 4.1 rom but all it keeps giving me is status 1 error in TWRP and in CWM
i have S-ON my friend is scared to turn it off could that be the cause?

I wouldn't think so. Can you get me the recovery log, or is there any text that goes along with status 1?
Just remembered I had a pm from someone else experiencing the same and it was just a bad download. Try redowbloading if you haven't already

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I wouldn't think so. Can you get me the recovery log, or is there any text that goes along with status 1?
Just remembered I had a pm from someone else experiencing the same and it was just a bad download. Try redowbloading if you haven't already
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i've downloaded it bout 3 times the 1.5 and 1.7 and all it says is install canceled (status 1)

Grab the recovery log and see whats happening
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And what device do you have?

Why is ROM development so slow for HTC phones?

I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM

Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.

I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.

Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.

Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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richyrocket said:
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.

I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.

[PROJECT]Sense5Nexus

Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?

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Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?
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I don't know anything about porting or making ROMs but I would love to see a port of sense 5
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About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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Count me in for testing and applications, but as for coding, I'm a lost cause, even with a masters in tech. I can show someone how to USE or APPLY a product in the field once its created, but creation, I'll leave it to the pros! If there is anything I can do on the application/UI/FAQ/Help side that doesn't require coding, let me know.

I can definitely do any testing you need
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Cor-master said:
About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.

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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.
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I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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Cor-master said:
I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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They were both HTC devices. The first nexus from HTC got a sense port as well.

Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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It is mostly a driver issue. The drivers are only made to work with HTC hardware. While the base hardware is the same things like the radio antenna, wifi, antenna, and things like this are different depending on the device. They are also programed very differently depending on the OEM. Without any of the Sense drivers for the OS those things dont work. This is how OEM keep their version of Android on their devices alone.

It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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oblikas said:
It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.

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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.
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Thanks.I've already talked to a good porter,he also ported Sense 5,he will help me.
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It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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If you need anyone to test let me know
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Tried to port sense this way some days before I saw this.
I was pretty sure it would fail, but I gave it a try.
The only thing I reached was a bootloop