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Hello
I have new diamond 2 for three days. It's very good machine, but i've one serious problem with battery. I try to explain the strange behaviour of it:
1) Battery life is too short. I have read in this forum, that battery life is amazing. I dont have this opinion. My topaz's battery life is about 3/4 of a day (standard using)
2) battery behaviour 1 - sometimes i have battery % value another than after restart. For example i have now 50%. When i do soft reset i will have 35%. After second soft reset i will have 42%. Maybe i have problem with battery calibration or something like that. Or ROM is bad.
3) battery behaviour 2 - many times my battery freeze at specific % value (for examlple 40%). At first i though that is amazing battery life. Buuut no. After few hours still was there value 40%. So i tried soft reset and i saw only 16%. I really don't know what is this problem about.
I tried ariel battery bar, which is very simple program and i didn't have problems with it in the past (when i had kaiser). But here was the same problem. Value on Ariel battery bar freezed too. After softreset there was another value. Maybe i will try hard reset in the future....Now i am trying to format battery with process of fully charge and discharge. Maybe it helps.
Has someone the same problem like me?
Detail of my official ROM:
ROM ver: 1.39.479.1 (47382) WWE
ROM date: 04/07/09
Radio ver: 3.43.25.19
Protocol ver: 61.20t.25.10U
Many thanks for help
PS: i had hermes, 2x kaisers in my past, but this kind of problem i haven't had til now. hmmm

Can you list any applications you have installed or is it still original and out of the box with no applications apart from the standard ones?
How did you perform your initial charge ?
I always perform mine by doing a full charge - letting it drain and then back on charge
This happens for the first week - even if it goes flat in the car, I will not plug it in the car charger until I get home and can do a full charge!
Once the first week is done, I charge normally which at the moment has been every 2 days
Did you do something similar?
I have read on here someone else having issues which is potentially down to the battery so it might just be you have a duff battery

thank you for quick response
Apps:
G-alarm
Total Commander
Core Player
Dictionary
MyLight
Nothing special installed. I think at first i must do a hard reset because i must exactly know if this will be on fresh ROM.
First charge - as usually - it was the same like you.
Now i am charging and here is the same strange problem. I am charging now for 2 hour and battery is only on level 50%. So, now i am going to do soft-reset..............few second...................tadaaaa i have 100%. This is not normal. Here is something bad.
But thanks for you help.
akash_84 said:
Can you list any applications you have installed or is it still original and out of the box with no applications apart from the standard ones?
How did you perform your initial charge ?
I always perform mine by doing a full charge - letting it drain and then back on charge
This happens for the first week - even if it goes flat in the car, I will not plug it in the car charger until I get home and can do a full charge!
Once the first week is done, I charge normally which at the moment has been every 2 days
Did you do something similar?
I have read on here someone else having issues which is potentially down to the battery so it might just be you have a duff battery
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I was going to suggest the hard reset route - this would determine if its software or not.
I will say that charging from empty takes a hell of a long time on the TD2! I'm thinking without even timing it, that it is taking around 4-5 hours to charge up ... and thats on mains!
Are you doing a soft-reset while it is plugged into the mains to charge?
Also is it doing this on usb charge (try another cable and NOT the one supplied for the charger)

Have you been using Opera. If so how have you been closing it. Did you go to menue exit or just hit the X? I ask because I found that hitting the X did not fully close it and when I went back to it it was still at the same page and not relaoding my home page.
Also did you set X to close the programs automatically or do you have to hold X to shut the program down?
It is also my 3rd day with the phone but have used internet a lot and the battery seems to be good. I also have been playing lots of games. I have done an initial Full charge and let it drain.... A full charge again let it drain... and last night it got a full charge.... My battery is Full at the moment. Today I have used it mildly for the web.... Like less than 15 min and have played games for about 10. A few calls and that's it. I can say it's doing better than my Elfin has.

HTC Touch Freak said:
Have you been using Opera. If so how have you been closing it. Did you go to menue exit or just hit the X? I ask because I found that hitting the X did not fully close it and when I went back to it it was still at the same page and not relaoding my home page.
Also did you set X to close the programs automatically or do you have to hold X to shut the program down?
It is also my 3rd day with the phone but have used internet a lot and the battery seems to be good. I also have been playing lots of games. I have done an initial Full charge and let it drain.... A full charge again let it drain... and last night it got a full charge.... My battery is Full at the moment. Today I have used it mildly for the web.... Like less than 15 min and have played games for about 10. A few calls and that's it. I can say it's doing better than my Elfin has.
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Good point - Just for your reference, in the settings menu > advanced settings> System> Task Manager > Button tab
You can set the X to close rather than minimise - I have always set this to be the case so that when I close a program, it does close!

i tried 3 different chargers. Nothing.
Now i am doing hard-reset. Soon i will report.

report-after hardreseting my topaz seems to be fine. Before hardresseting i fully charged my battery. now i am testing it...

hmmm. really interesting. after few hours of testing everything was ok. So i decided to test it with battery applications (ariel battery bar and another tools wich shows battery bar in %.) And here started ainigain the same problems. Can someone test ariel battery bar and test some soft reset? Please watch what happend after restarts with battery %. I tried 10x restart
and everytime was there another value of battery. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower values.....really annoying
Now i have uninstalled all battery tools and i am going to test again if everything is goog...

alkapone please inform us about the results because i kinda have the same problem here, and i am using batti.
i have a lot of applications installed (nothing to do with the battery meter), but i have GPRS not 3G signal, i am closing the programs normally, and i am exiting opera, and so on. i am using it a lot but i think it goes out kinda fast. i almost get 1 day by using it.
can anyone suggest a battery meter that actually works fine? i like batti

Same problems here! Looking at the battery-information tab: After 4 hours of use after full charged the battery is empty..

I have been using dciBattery and qwertyMemory and all seems to be ok.
I have copied the files to the storage card then run the files and set a shortcut in the windows startup folder.
Here is a link to the files
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/qwertymemoryanddcibattery.shtml

this program doesn't have any config ? i don't want to have the memory bar and i don't want to have that gradient thing.

i think i solve the problem - not sure for 100%
hello to all
i think i solved the trouble. when i have uninstalled every battery app, everything seems to be ok. and one statistic - i had today at 12:00(lunch) 20% of battery. after 8 hours standard using of the phone(few calls,sms,internet), my battery told me that it has 10%. i think it is veeeery gooood (8 hours=only 10% decrease of the battery).beautiful.
result - this case showed that some battery apps/tools causes problens with compatibility battery meter vs. these apps..,
list of apps which causes problems (my tests)
1) jimmyes greens battery fixes
2) ariel batrery bar
3) batti
this is not 100% solution. i am still testing.
please write your opinion.

i am going to try finix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3726516&postcount=5
i will report

alkapone02 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3726516&postcount=5
i will report
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I am using it since day one with my td1 and td2 and no problems so far...

Do you think nueDynamicClock and nueClock as well as TweakHD (with it's apparent powersaving options etc) could be culprits as well? I'm on 6 hours standby and 2 hours device usage and I've just hit 55% on my battery (trying out the app alkapone02 just linked to)

i have installed finix batt icon too. batti was battery crazy on this.
i will test tomorrow, i am fully charging it now and i am going to test how long it will last through the week

super. please test it and report here as usually. thanks
TeDeV said:
i have installed finix batt icon too. batti was battery crazy on this.
i will test tomorrow, i am fully charging it now and i am going to test how long it will last through the week
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oki but question is if the battery performance is good?
have you tried td2 without it for few days if the performance is better or worse?
KraFT_mk said:
I am using it since day one with my td1 and td2 and no problems so far...
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battery/charging problem.

i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??

djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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might be time for a new battery. It should take 30 to 45 mins to charge. And it should last longer than that. How much time do you spend playing games ect. Gps also is a battery drainer. Also alot of data usage.

djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.

JM-PDA said:
My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.
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win mo is actually quite ROM dependent (NFSFAN's ROMs got awesome battery life). android is pretty kernel dependent. if you are charging overnight, and using latest zimage/kernel, and turing off syncing (background data), and that is the battery life you are getting, you need a new battery.

i use gps a lot as i work as a field technician but i don't have gps turned on all the time while im driving as the screen shuts off by itself in a minute or so. maybe gps is still working even with the screen shut off? and it's a nand install so trying with winmo is not possible. i had much better battery life with winmo for sure. if i turn off the syncing will i still be able to use gps?

Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33

Reddog80p said:
Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ...
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not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread

djpj1981 said:
not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread
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It's the kernel. you know the file you rename RUU_signed and you flash.

I am definitely having this problem as well, and the charge does not last very long it seems either. Was much, MUCH better in the Windows Mobile builds I was using previously.
I am on Bell using the basic HTC Touch

Same problem here. Brand new battery on bell.

Yeah, although battery life is positively improved and pretty decent now, there is definitely still something funky going on with charging. I still don't rely on / believe when the phone says it is fully charged. It happens too quickly to be possibly true.

I have the exact same issue and it is absolutely a problem with charging within Android. I have two identical batteries. One was fully charged in winmo before I flashed - I took it out and swapped for the other one. Flashed it with that battery in and charged it overnight. It only lasted about a half-day. Came home and swapped out for my other fully-charged (in winmo) battery, and it lasted for more than a day. Same settings, same use. After it discharged, I recharged overnight from Android and it behaved the same as the first - discharging in about a half-day.
What gives?
I'm curious what builds people are using? I'm totally new to this but I'm using warm donut with voguimg-240x320-06-04-10.nbh. It seems that nbh isn't posted on the sourceforge site yet - maybe I should switch back to an older one?

Maybe kernel problem.
I'm experiencing the same problem as everyone.
Lately my battery suddenly drops from 100% to 4%.
When I put to charge, it reaches 100% very fast. Should reach only 5%
I think it can be a problem in the kernel.
Now, i'm trying to solve it. If I find something I'll share with you
I can not determine which kernel brought the problem...
23/04 - 16:16 (GMT-3 - Rio de Janeiro) - Trying an old kernel
23/04 - 17:00 - Nothing. But came to the conclusion that the problem is with the battery.
Battery really "thinks" its 100% charged, since it accepts flash a nbh without the need of the phone is charging. And this only happens when the battery is at least 50% charged...
(sorry about my english. I'm brazilian and still learning english)
Some threads and posts about battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644453
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33
We must concentrate everything in one thread!!!
We have to use search

Good luck tiagoclc
My battery life is pretty bad and I recently bought a new OEM battery. Coming of NSFANs 6.5 rom, Myn's warm donut on 240x320 is wonderful but the battery life is pretty lousy.

[Q] My Battery is suicidal please help.:)

ok so i own the sprint htc hero obviously and i keep switching between plain cm6 and blackmod every few months or so. For my Kernel i use
Decad3nce-DecaFuct #589 691mhz CFS stable
i keep it clocked at 245-691 with collins battery tweak
i charge my phone to 100% and then unplug it. screen off, gps, mobile data, sync, bluetooth, 3g, everything is off. brightness is as low as it can go. so im doing everything i can to save battery power. if i leave it in my pocket all day it CAN last about8 hours....that being said at that point its basically a brick. however if i turn anything on obviously it dies faster. if im online for 45 min my phone will die. a five minute youtube video costs me 32% of my battery. there is no way that my phone should be acting this way and im out of ideas. i have tried switching roms, wiping battery stats, running through battery cycles reverting back to stock via the RUU nothing works.
PLease if you wonderful people have any ideas *PLEASE* help me with this.....

Well you could try running a more current rom like CM7 or Aosp's CM7 GingerBread. Also you could try running your roms without the Collins battery tweak. You could try using dec's battery tweak if you prefer to use one. You could try calibrating your battery. Just a few things you could try that might help.
Edit: Also do you have an on screen off screen profile set with the battery tweak???
Yea its me Again With the
Modified Hero-

laie1472 said:
Well you could try running a more current rom like CM7 or Aosp's CM7 GingerBread. Also you could try running your roms without the Collins battery tweak. You could try using dec's battery tweak if you prefer to use one. You could try calibrating your battery. Just a few things you could try that might help.
Edit: Also do you have an on screen off screen profile set with the battery tweak???
Yea its me Again With the
Modified Hero-
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i have tried cm7 and still had the same issue. and i am partial to the battery tweaks because setcpu and ocwidget seem like they would eat up resources wouldnt they?....i dont think ive heard of decs battery tweak tho....unless you mean the DECAmod one and i thought that was only for 2.1 roms.....maybe i got my facts mixed up tho...i calibrate my battery everytime that i flash a new rom to the phone. as far as i know the version i have does not allow for seperate profiles for screen on screen off.

I had the same problem and out of curiosity i dropped my processor speed from 710 to 576. Yeah its slower but on Aosp/CM7 and with sd-ext done its plenty fast. and with everything on and the phone in my pocket i drop about 4% every hour.

lycancowboy1989 said:
i have tried cm7 and still had the same issue. and i am partial to the battery tweaks because setcpu and ocwidget seem like they would eat up resources wouldnt they?....i dont think ive heard of decs battery tweak tho....unless you mean the DECAmod one and i thought that was only for 2.1 roms.....maybe i got my facts mixed up tho...i calibrate my battery everytime that i flash a new rom to the phone. as far as i know the version i have does not allow for seperate profiles for screen on screen off.
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Deca's BattMod will work on CM7/aospCM7. However with CM7 you really don't need it (or anything else to overclock/underclock) as CPU settings are in the ROM itself. In fact, it is recommended that you don't, as they will/could fight with each other.
If properly calibrating the battery (properly is the key word) doesn't get you at least a solid day with moderate use, I would say it's time to look for a new battery. How old is it? Mine is about two years old and I still get about 2 days, stock aospCM7 ROM and kernel, moderate use with ONDEMAND 176/729

whodatxevg said:
I had the same problem and out of curiosity i dropped my processor speed from 710 to 576. Yeah its slower but on Aosp/CM7 and with sd-ext done its plenty fast. and with everything on and the phone in my pocket i drop about 4% every hour.
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I'd still say that 4% an hour, without using the phone is way too much. If your battery is still good, you should be able to get better than that by at least half (2% an hour drop).
I have been up for two hours (unplugged at 6AM, it's now 8:56AM) and am still at 99% and that is with moderate usage (a couple texts, sent and received an email, one 3 minute phone call, some Facebook and XDA).
See ^^ for my settings. Give it a try

My brothers hero would die incredibly fast also no matter what we tried. We ended up RUUing and taking it into sprint. They did a battery test said they didn't know why it died so fast and ordered him a brand new one. He had normal batt life again after that.
So if all else fails try taking it into sprint and see what they tell you.
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

lycancowboy1989 said:
ok so i own the sprint htc hero obviously and i keep switching between plain cm6 and blackmod every few months or so. For my Kernel i use
Decad3nce-DecaFuct #589 691mhz CFS stable
i keep it clocked at 245-691 with collins battery tweak
i charge my phone to 100% and then unplug it. screen off, gps, mobile data, sync, bluetooth, 3g, everything is off. brightness is as low as it can go. so im doing everything i can to save battery power. if i leave it in my pocket all day it CAN last about8 hours....that being said at that point its basically a brick. however if i turn anything on obviously it dies faster. if im online for 45 min my phone will die. a five minute youtube video costs me 32% of my battery. there is no way that my phone should be acting this way and im out of ideas. i have tried switching roms, wiping battery stats, running through battery cycles reverting back to stock via the RUU nothing works.
PLease if you wonderful people have any ideas *PLEASE* help me with this.....
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When you go to the battery usage stats in Settings--About Phone, what does it show you? That may show/tell what is eating up your battery so much.
What is your signal like? Are you in an area with poor signal? If so that could possibly cause the battery drain -- a phone working hard to keep a decent signal eats battery pretty quickly. Consider upgrading to the newest .29 radio baseband (if you're on Sprint) if you haven't already.
Try to check out the battery usage in your Settings and report back what it shows. We may can help you notice anything out of the norm.

ranger61878 said:
Deca's BattMod will work on CM7/aospCM7. However with CM7 you really don't need it (or anything else to overclock/underclock) as CPU settings are in the ROM itself. In fact, it is recommended that you don't, as they will/could fight with each other.
If properly calibrating the battery (properly is the key word) doesn't get you at least a solid day with moderate use, I would say it's time to look for a new battery. How old is it? Mine is about two years old and I still get about 2 days, stock aospCM7 ROM and kernel, moderate use with ONDEMAND 176/729
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my phone is about 7 months old. so battery *shouldnt* be crapping out quite yet as battery life on one of these seems to typically be about two years before it starts to crappify.

@MrDowntown12
i thought about that but was worried that the ruu doesnt get it COMPLETELY back to stock. good to know it does and that someone pulled one over on sprint ^_^ if all else fails then ill try this but in all honesty they will prob still charge me $50 and i just dont have it.....
@chromiumleaf
battery usage is:
Display 59%
cell standby 12%
Phone idle 11%
android OS 8%
Media 5%
setcpu 3%
google search 2%
gallery 3d 2%
"top -m 5 -n 1" returns
process id 2337 at 8% and 163 which i believe is the phone itself if im not mistaken is at 5%......everything else is zeros.
also i think my coverage is pretty average. throughout the day i typically have about three bars but my dbm is 80-100 the whole day and im not sure if thats high.
fyi these stats are while doing my battery cycles if it matters. and ive been unplugged for about 25 min and ive dropped from 100 to 91 with doing nothing but checking battery stats and running the terminal for a minute.
Edit: i know that android os is getting more and more popular....do you think its possible that i caught some kind of virus somehow???? the only ones ive seen are in china but is it likely that my phone is infected? also i want to run cm7 but as far as i can tell there really arent any stables out yet just the experimental nightlies and ive tried it and it didnt fix drain *immediately* but maybe after batt cycles? second edit^_^ i apologize i did not know exactly what you meant by signal. after finding THIS
-105 to -100 = Really bad
-99 to -90 = Not great
-89 to -80 = Pretty good
-79 to -65 = Good
Over -65 = Excellent
i now understand and my dbm hovers at about 88 half the time and the other half it shoots to 97

lycancowboy1989 said:
battery usage is:
Display 59%
cell standby 12%
Phone idle 11%
android OS 8%
Media 5%
setcpu 3%
google search 2%
gallery 3d 2%
"top -m 5 -n 1" returns
process id 2337 at 8% and 163 which i believe is the phone itself if im not mistaken is at 5%......everything else is zeros.
fyi these stats are while doing my battery cycles if it matters. and ive been unplugged for about 25 min and ive dropped from 100 to 91 with doing nothing but checking battery stats and running the terminal for a minute.
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Ok so if all you were doing in 25 mins was checking battery stats and running the terminal for a little bit, it seems strange that Google Search, Gallery 3d, and Media would have some battery pull on them -- did you even open/use them at all? If not, then it seems like maybe you have some programs running non-stop in the background that are eating your battery even when you're not using them. Try clearing data and cache for any of those in your Settings-->Applications-->Manage Applications menu.
Also, just curious...when you change roms, do you wipe everything (data, dalvik, ext) before flashing to a new one?

ranger61878 said:
I'd still say that 4% an hour, without using the phone is way too much. If your battery is still good, you should be able to get better than that by at least half (2% an hour drop).
I have been up for two hours (unplugged at 6AM, it's now 8:56AM) and am still at 99% and that is with moderate usage (a couple texts, sent and received an email, one 3 minute phone call, some Facebook and XDA).
See ^^ for my settings. Give it a try
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I forgot to say that i have music playing through headphones whenever im awake lol, but yeah ill give that a try.

No I had not used any of those. I tried what you suggested and the battery is draining faster T^T. And I always do a full wipe. I wipe data and dalvik reformat my sd and as soon as I her the rom on my phone I go through three battery cycles.

HAHA Solved! for me anyway.
ok so my guess is that its not reading my batts full capacity because i didnt charge fully before one of my flashes. so what i did was:
*charge to full
*run my ruu to revert back to stock
*with phone -ON- charge til green
*power -OFF-
*charge for another two hours
*boot into recovery
*flash like you normally would
*Run through your Battery cycles like normal
since i have done that my battery has been fine. or as good as a battery on a smartphone can be anyway lol

incredible s battery not soo incredible

hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??

Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...

Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).

katu2006 said:
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.

It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?

Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.

yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.

Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.

Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha

Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.

Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?

Jess95 said:
well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.

Thanx everybody for the replies
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
Nonverbose said:
Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
unknown2011 said:
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?

Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?

Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.

shields360 said:
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.

tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.

Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.

[Q] Help with huge battery drain on usage [TRIED EVERYTHING]

Hello guys, sorry for my bad english, but I'm not American. Well, my question is:
I bought from a guy a Galaxy S I900b, Brazilian model with digital TV. Came with stock 2.3. As I had already read enough before, upgraded to JWB Saurom with semaphore kernel, which I think is the default for this rom. Well, the phone had very poor battery life, evn on idle. Then upgraded to 10.2 CM. I saw that had some wakelocks, and with BBS and the help here, I used the Scan Media Root and my problems are gone in iddle. So, my phone goes into deep sleep and today during my sleep, only lost 3% battery, 3% battery drain on idle during about 5-6 hours it very good to me. But during use, it ends up very fast, and with GSAM and standard monitor of the android, I saw that after the screen, the Android system was what had higher %% battery. So what could it be ? The battery life is ok, checked on info, and its condition is 'good'. I use to Greenify, and close almost every game\app, so running is just grenify and ram manager pro.
So the prob just could be a app or the 'android system' ? Or even hardware ?
I dont have much time now, so any info or screenshot you want, I can provide later
Thanks

What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?

calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
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Dandry said:
What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?
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So buddy I've disabled 3G, just 2G, I barely make a call, just wifi. But dont matter what, if is just passing by the menus or using opera mini, using it drain battery a lot,
compacity said:
calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
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I've deleted the batterystats.bin and used until 0%, so charged while off, but nothing :C
It's true that the battery needs to 'learn' ? Like, a few charges and discharges and could estabilize ?
I'll take a few screenshots right now

Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal

Here some screenshots, if need more, just ask
Note: Was with 14%batt, rebooted and drops to 11-10%
mrjraider said:
Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal
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i am using greenify on almost everything.
used to use ram manager, but now i've disable it.
brightness is on low
I really dunno what 2 do ... almost 1 week with it and this insane drain, everyone says that plays or browser on wifi and get almost 10 hours... my dream this happen to me lol
Remember that this is just on use, on idle it use virtually nothing, like I said, almost 3% on sleep, but is just I start use with app or browser and its gone

Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher

Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:

mrjraider said:
Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher
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ok buddy, will charge and use a little
LyQQ said:
Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:
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but in aps, show good battery state :/
think that I cant trust in it ... and will have to buy a new one

if calibrate doesnt work, hardware faulty, change ur battery mate.
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About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:

solidedgard said:
About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:
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It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
Sent from my GT-P7510

Soryuu said:
It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
Sent from my GT-P7510
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So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?

solidedgard said:
So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?
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How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
Sent from my GT-P7510

Soryuu said:
How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
Sent from my GT-P7510
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Using bout 2 days ... but i didnt knew about ' calibrate '. Good to know that
Now i've formated everything and will put a stock 2.3 and see in a couple of days the perfomance ... if gets better, I put the saurom 2.3.6 and be with it, cuz 2.3.6 on brazilian model allow to use digital tv, and 2.3 everyone says is economic.
I'll get this updated if my situation changes, if not, will buy a new battery
Thanks for all your help
Note: How long your batt last ? With high\low usage