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Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.
Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken
Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?
rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space
those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there
I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.
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I usually am on the losing end
Ken
So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
bproulx said:
So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
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+1 using holiraider
your internal sd is only 9.48gb(ish). on that, you can delete anything you want. whether any apps use any of the data in there is dependent on the apps you have installed. there is nothing there that is */required/* for your rom to function correctly
after backing up all your pictures/music/titanium backup files/clockworkmod backups/etc to your computer or all on an external card, you can safely format the internal sd. the system will recreate any files/folders it needs.
personally, i would just back EVERYTHING on the internal sd up to my computer, format the internal sd from the system menu, and if anything doesnt work properly after that, you always have the files handy.
I have a 32gb sd card so i backup the internal to sdcard2 into a ".No Media" folder. I hate duplicating images.. But this way i always have a back up with me since i like to flash roms while im at work (to impatient to wait till im home).
hi guys, i start a new thread cos till now nobody could help me.
if i move/install more than (about) 50 apps on sdcard, my phone works only until shut it down.
once rebooted, it keeps rebooting (it seems to happen while scanning apps on sdcard).
only solution is, to put sdcard in pc and delete some (doesn´t matter which) .asec files from .android_secure folder.
this problem only appears in android versions higher than 2.34 and it seems to appear on other phones (not only lg) too.
please, please, does anybody has a solution or an explanation???
Which ROM are you using?
Anyway, just an idea, looks like a format problem in your card, have you tried to copy all the apps out of the card (v.g. to a PC) and reformat the card?. You can copy verything back afterwards.
Sometimes, it just happens the card is left in a funny state by an O.S. crash or by silly accidents (like pulling it out without unmonting it first).
Hope it helps.
Cheers.
NOTE: If you are copying things out, remember there might be some hidden directories in the card, set your file explorer to show them.
NOTE2: I remember having a similar problem with an old WinMo 6.5 phone, turned out my SD was a fake one not having the expected capacity.
formatting card doesn´t help.
i tried it with 4 different cards. formatted all. did fullwipe, after fullwipe, started with clear rom, installed all apps again. everytime the same: if the´re more than 50 files in android secure, phone keeps on rebooting.
at the moment i use cm9 kang3. but like i told it´s the same with every rom based on android higher than 2.34. so i tried it with miui, miui kangs, cm7, cm7kangs etc. eveytime same thing, cos they´re all based on android higher than 2.34.
these guys have the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446961
is there anyvody who have an android version higher than 2.34 and more than 50 apps on sdcard and phone doesn´t reboot???
don´t believe that.
so i think i go back to gb 2.34. but is there a rom/kernel with a ramhack, so i got 404mb free ram? and i need the cars mounted in c-style, so external sdcard is sdcard and internal is mounted as _internal..
I have more than , 230 apps, and 40% they are on sdcard.
And i dont have any problems with it.
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium
hmmm... ok, strange. which rom do you use and how many files do you have in android_secure folder and how big is it?
hi all .. i use link2sd to link all my apps to my sd card..this should give me alot of space ...i used to use lewa rom and i have 2xx apps and themes but when i switch to sgs2 rom i decided to delete som apps i hardly use / themes and now there is about 120apps but then when i start to download some games my memory went to 2mb only ?? is this bug ?
this happens to me when i change from lewa to old cm7 fat. ext4 seems lost. and i need to transfers all files to sd using app2sd manually. s2e didnt work.
it was ok now after i changed to stock lite ..i tink it;s a bug
Used link2sd long time on stock rom, very good tool but it seems not work very good with titanium. It works, but after recovering all apps i had very little memory, but all apps are on sd-ext. I moved one after the other to sd, back to phone and then 2 sd.ext, that works and i got much more space. Dont know why, but this procedure was very hard, because of less rom space moving 10 apps to phone, moving to ext and so on.....
But now im using cm7-FAT and s2e, moved dalvic, apps, data and cache to sd, so i have 171! MB free space on phone. No need to have so much space on phone, but whats the best: Phone ice noticeable faster than before, seems that my sandisk class4 sdcard is faster than phone memory, i wondered, but it is so, feels really faster ;-)
regards
I have never been able to set up Link2SD perfectly. In addition, Link2SD makes soft link which makes internal memory little bit usable though. Also, It can not be configured to be on external storage for widget or themes. I remember installing ~50 Apps I had just 60MBs free. But, with S2E I am boss! It serves all needs perefectly. A lot better than Link2SD.
As i said, link2sd works fine for me long time, the graphical interface is very good for managing where your apps should be.
All widgets and tools that never work with standard app2sd (on fat-sdpartition) work as they should do.
Problem is the lack of moving dalvic-cache and other data, so i had ~45MB free, with nearly 100 apps installed. Thats fine, but as i said before, after backing up its sometimes tricky to get all the apps on sd-ext again.
And after some time, phone gets fuller and fuller, i think because of cached data or somewhat.
So with s2e (works on cm7, on stock darktremor a2sd will do nearly the same...) all data are on sd, wich is very good for me, as i said before, performance is better now.....
regards
s2e works Fine in all Cm7.x based roms.
for link2sd user, IMHO this is a very good tutorial [TUT]install apps as much as you can, DON'T WORRY ABOUT MEMORY!![reUPDATED][FAQ's]
I have s2e and successfully moved apps, dalvik, and cache to sd-ext.. but my data (/data/data) cannot be moved to sd-ext... can anyone help me with this? my sd card is RiData 16gb class 10 with 1gb ext3 partition...
edit: found my fix. i have to enable the advanced option in the settings... now i have 170mb free in internal! haha!
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tohno said:
hi all .. i use link2sd to link all my apps to my sd card..this should give me alot of space ...i used to use lewa rom and i have 2xx apps and themes but when i switch to sgs2 rom i decided to delete som apps i hardly use / themes and now there is about 120apps but then when i start to download some games my memory went to 2mb only ?? is this bug ?
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Haha. Found the problem as soon as I read the first line. Links2SD doesn't move everything to the SD card. Let me explain...
I switched to a stock based rom the other day and since S2E doesn't work for stock, I had to google something up and came back to Links2SD. I've used it before but I've had some problems with it. After I was restoring my 97 apps with titanium, not even half way through and it says my device is running out of memory. When I checked Links2SD, everything was on the SD card and yet the internal memory was getting taken up completely.
My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
S2E FTW. I have faced problwm plenty of times what just superace explained. There isn't a useless reason I put that sentence about link2sd in my signature.
SuperAce609 said:
Haha. Found the problem as soon as I read the first line. Links2SD doesn't move everything to the SD card. Let me explain...
I switched to a stock based rom the other day and since S2E doesn't work for stock, I had to google something up and came back to Links2SD. I've used it before but I've had some problems with it. After I was restoring my 97 apps with titanium, not even half way through and it says my device is running out of memory. When I checked Links2SD, everything was on the SD card and yet the internal memory was getting taken up completely.
My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
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All Widgets work, if on internal storage, but with s2e sd-ext is like internal, partition is mounted at boot.
Widgets dont work, if they are on normal sd-space (mounted much later, i think), which is fat32.
I have 1024MB sd-ext and all apps on it, all work, even widgets or others who need to be on phonespace normally. And i think its impossible to move some of them to "real" internal space selectively, only link2sd can do this, or am i wrong?
However, a2sd or s2e seems to be the best solution, if you have very much apps, cause it moves nearly all data to sd...
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My fix? I said **** stock roms and went back to CM7 with S2E. It moves everything to the EXT partition as soon as you install it. I restored all of my 97 apps one after another WITH NO ISSUE AT ALL. Only problem I had is that I had to move some apps that use widgets back to internal because the widgets won't work installed on the SD.
Check out the guide on my signature. Cyanogenmod for life. Never again shall I go back to stock.
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@SuperAce609,
I'm completely agree with you. This is the only reason why I also haven't gone to stock ROMs like that SGSII by Rushabh. But, one thing you haven't got right about S2E is Widgets' memory location. With S2E, that partition is mounted as internal memory at the start up. All I am saying is, Widgets moved to sd-ext DO work perfectly. I know it, because I am a BIG Widget & themes fan. Have installed plenty of widgets and have 23 themes installed of CM7 theme chooser. Still 117MB internal memory is free. Here, Link2SD would have kept all those themes and widgets in internal memory while restoring via titanium.
nihilista said:
....And i think its impossible to move some of them to "real" internal space selectively, only link2sd can do this, or am i wrong?
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@nihilista,
There is one option of saying "Advanced Mode" in S2E Settings. Never tried it myself. But, I suppose its may be for not moving apps, which should not be in external storage like Link2SD. But not Individually.
hey hi , i am on stock rom (2.3.6 ddkq8) does it support apps2sd....read that while u partition ur sd card..""if the rom supports apps2sd"".....(do these roms have to support such applications????) ......it will transfer the files to ext3......to clear internal memory (main problem in Galaxy ace).
2) after partition ...if i try to move apps to sd card from the fone's stock application manager...will it be transferd to the same EXT3?
3) diffrence btween link2sd and app2sd...do they perform the same task?
P.S.- i want to stay on this rom......please help me with this....as m a newbie...i dont have any clue as to how should i move apps.
Well guys i just want a minor help from all cm users. well the problem i suffer with is, when i restore data using titanium, or install new apps, it goes straight into phone memory rather to sd card and gives me low memory warnings. and i don't have any sd-ext partition, just talking about simple default move to sd option in android. so i mean how can i set it to like whenever i do any of the above, it goes into sd memory rather than phone memory like in stock roms (obviously for apps which are movable) .
thanks
abhibnl said:
Well guys i just want a minor help from all cm users. well the problem i suffer with is, when i restore data using titanium, or install new apps, it goes straight into phone memory rather to sd card and gives me low memory warnings. and i don't have any sd-ext partition, just talking about simple default move to sd option in android. so i mean how can i set it to like whenever i do any of the above, it goes into sd memory rather than phone memory like in stock roms (obviously for apps which are movable) .
thanks
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open titanium backup==>menu key==>preference==>restore backup to==>external media