Dear Admin and Mods ,
Thank You for you great time and effort in keeping XDA at the top.
However , I and may be many users feel that the Development Section of the Galaxy Note forum is too cluttered . It takes a lot of time to find the appropriate thread of any specific Kernel , ROM etc... I know we can Bookmark the required section , but that is very impractical if there are many sections that we follow.
The re-arrangement should be on basis of separation of threads into Categories like Kernels , ROM's , Mods , and likewise.
I sincerely hope that you will consider my suggestion.
I hope other guys who feel the same , should make a request here.
I really support this plea!
+1 especially different section for ICS and GB
+1 very good idea
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
+1 !
It would actually make everything less hectic and those in panic will have some less headache !
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
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I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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Mods have tools for moving stuff about/deleting threads at their disposal, and I don't think they actually need our help in doing that.
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What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Same here.. I almost created it and I thought twice before posting it..that can I maintain it??? So I made a U-turn. This really need some dedication to monitor the thread. I doubt I could do that.
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zacthespack said:
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Yes . its a genuine concern , bot this task must be assigned to 4-5 good people...it will be easily managed.
dr.ketan said:
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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+1 But this option should only be with the mods as you say
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I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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Yeah. Chilled Beer for you mate.
There is galaxy note wiki by original_ganjaman in general section which contains everything related to SGNote.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note/GT-N7000
I do not think dev section is cluttered.
Can't find something you want ? - Have it bookmarked or theres good old 'search'.
Even searching on google 'XDA Galaxy Note Rocket Rom' will give you the results you want.
+1 Great idea :thumbup:
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...before posting in dev forums. Really?
Sounds like an invitation to spam.
There should be other way.
dros74 said:
...before posting in dev forums. Really?
Sounds like an invitation to spam.
There should be other way.
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It must be the best solution for the time being, that's why the forum mods have implemented it.
There is always a start.
Go around general android forums and see if u can post some constructive comments.
I asked something for an app development reg api level support for a particular thing i wanted n some guidance if it was possible
n it was shifted to q&a....
Not that it was wrong but just slightly confusing...thought q&a was just surface level questions :-\
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I'm sure with the search function if you really need help with an issue you can find something that's already been posted.
But yes it sort of does encourage spamming.
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I'm sure with the search function if you really need help with an issue you can find something that's already been posted.
But yes it sort of does encourage spamming.
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And despite his rule supposed to educate people to read and SEARCH by themselves before blindly asking, threads are full of posts asking for things that have been answered two pages before.....
yes, for newbies is really "educative"
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yes, for newbies is really "educative"
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exactly
10 post is ok, other forums have limitations to 100 posts for some section ...
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10 post is ok, other forums have limitations to 100 posts for some section ...
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ya it's true! with this limitation 60% of new account doesn't post more than 2-3 times xD
But we can send troll post to get 10 posts xD
How are you my friend? Problem?
Spamwise, this is already working. General Optimus 2x discussion, about the all-in-topic 10 post restriction on a thread which is stricly restrict to development.
Dev thread should be allowed to user-specific, so that only known devs should post there. Ofc with some rules like forcing the developers to create a feeback/reporting thread in the general. Or even creating a discussion thread.
dont get me wrong, but ffs, The CM7 nightly dev thread is stupidly and insanely filled in with spam, i mean, 9800+ posts on a development thread?
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But we can send troll post to get 10 posts xD
How are you my friend? Problem?
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Only if it's legible. Sorry you failed
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It was a joke, just forget that i said anything. -.-
svceon said:
Spamwise, this is already working. General Optimus 2x discussion, about the all-in-topic 10 post restriction on a thread which is stricly restrict to development.
Dev thread should be allowed to user-specific, so that only known devs should post there. Ofc with some rules like forcing the developers to create a feeback/reporting thread in the general. Or even creating a discussion thread.
dont get me wrong, but ffs, The CM7 nightly dev thread is stupidly and insanely filled in with spam, i mean, 9800+ posts on a development thread?
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9800+..???
Now if someone gets stuck somewhere, how the hell do they search for it..??
Even in the General forum, there should be a locking system..wherein the thread gets locked after the mod feels the discussion has yielded a result..
Its actually impractical for someone to browse through 30-40 pages of posts trying to find an answer...
duplicate threads should be deleted and the creator of the thread should get the url as a pm..(u can write a script for it..not a hassle..)
Hello
So i am in the same case for the 10 reply, I suppose I can ask my question here
I am using topogigi 1.7 and want to know if I can simply put the horse power kernel rc1 over it or if I need first to upgrade topo to 1.9 ?
thx for your help
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Hello
So i am in the same case for the 10 reply, I suppose I can ask my question here
I am using topogigi 1.7 and want to know if I can simply put the horse power kernel rc1 over it or if I need first to upgrade topo to 1.9 ?
thx for your help
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I don't think this is a problem.
Why don't you just try? But make a backup first.
ok will probably give a try and let you know just in case it interest some more peeps
Yea I was like: "What? 10 posts?" Just wanted to help post my findings on certain stuff(been lurking in the shadows reading a bit)
Moderator Message!
not just 10 posts!
10 Legitimate posts!!!!!
THREAD CLOSED
can someone explain this
''Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation''
im just trying to say thanks to developers and answer things that have been question by others,maybe im just know 1 or 2 things about my phone development...but why cannot i post it...how can i post if i cant really comment on those thread?i dont get it...
There's plenty of threads about this in the "about xda" forum. If you'd read the rules then you'd know to search first and you'd have found the myriads of other closed threads about the subject.
Archer said:
There's plenty of threads about this in the "about xda" forum. If you'd read the rules then you'd know to search first and you'd have found the myriads of other closed threads about the subject.
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owh sorry...
You got 8 more post to go... after you complete 10, find that thread, find that post, and thank them or whatever
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Looks like they explained it for you.
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owh sorry...
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Just do some friendly helping out and you'll have 10 posts in no time, and all useful ones too!
kompheak said:
You got 8 more post to go... after you complete 10, find that thread, find that post, and thank them or whatever
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all right,tq bro...you are awesome...
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all right,tq bro...you are awesome...
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No worries mate
You'll be surprised how addictive helping people out can be!
So lately, i saw the galaxy fit owners having a Q/A section in their forums.
First of all i want to congratulate them on that behalf.
So i read somewhere that if a device's general section forum reaches 1000 threads or 10000 posts limit, that device forum earn itself a separate q/a section.
The eligibility if true it is, we should also contact mods for the q/a section as the spam count in general section is filling with each passing day.
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+1
Anything non-urgent or non important thing shuld go here
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Any thing which doesn't belong to themes and apps, dev, nor q/a should only be posted in general section.
Rest in their respective sections.
But first the question of the subject is "is our sgm forum eligible for this facility?" .
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Well seems this post was buried deep under.
I already contacted sixstring regarding this..he said Q/A are added upon request.
I'll ask him again.
Whatever it is, i think this addon would greatly be appreciated by all.
considering all the spam count regarding inquiries in general section.
Also our section needs some cleaning in dev thread. Wondering where our mod is.
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Well thanks to you, now our forum has faq thread.
well first question in this thread
I am using emanon v7 is there anyway to make bluetooth visible permanently or atleast for a session, not for just 120 secs
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well first question in this thread
I am using emanon v7 is there anyway to make bluetooth visible permanently or atleast for a session, not for just 120 secs
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Hey, you didn't read the O.P. post carefully , did you?
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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Coz it was continuously being spammed wid useless posts so it was btr to close it off
There has to be a balance between freedom and rules
100% freedom means no rules and thus things going out of control
Xda is well managed
Rest of the internet... Is good until CIPSA is passed...
Edit - reported for mod review... Its btr we discuss phones and not our freedom on xda
This place has rules and its best to follow them
xCookie said:
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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u noob are u craze
do u want to destroy the form i don’t agree
OP, yes Freedom of the Internet is just that, free to speak but with any organized sense of freedom there are rules to help govern or else it would be randomness/uselessness.
Regarding XDA, as with any forum there are Forum Rules and when Members violate them....then action is required. Maintaining a Forum of this size of Members is a task, but remember this is a Development Site, not a social site.
And as you seem to think your freedom is taken way with the maintenance that is required on the threads, keep in mind again the sole purpose of this site is for Development.
To OP - in short, I agree.
I've opened threads or discussed things which were deleted. Some mods I've communicated with were reasonable and fair but many were not. Communicating with some of them by PM, some were very angry, aggressive, unreasonable etc. I tell you, my nieces and nephews who are young seem calm and resonable by comparisson. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of 'support' goes on behind the scenes. Post number and thanks meter are currencies here, they go far beyond 'showing appreciation' etc. 'Might is right' that's the attitude of a bully or a dictator, not an authority . So, it's 'open' and 'democratic' only up to a point - where it suits particular people. The policies for complaining were equally a joke, in my experience. After that, I decided to keep my posts strickly related to my 'mod' interests and never get side-tracked again. When these people make you angry, remember to let it go, this is not the real world.
ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
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if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
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Only if members of this forums were more kind and helpful to everyone we could avoid a lot of questions and together we could make more easy the job for the mods. That's something that i miss of Defy Development forum: The sense of real community, in fact, the little knowing about android modding and dev, i have learned in there. You could check for yourself what i'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
dev should ignore newbies because its not the fault of all of us. we dont deserve to lose the scope of JB. and when i had my defy i only knew 1 god for my mobile.. Quarx.. he made things which were not possible without him. i though sola's god was better than him. but he is pissed off by few noobs.
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
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Mods arent that hard...and never will be
How many of us have received any official warning?? None of us I guess bcoz we were smart enough to refrain ourselves from posting non sense... Bt not all have that sense...
We need to understand what mods do is best for the forum... We may be relatively new here bt not the mods.. Some have been here since the website was started... Some although 2-3 yrs old on website spends a lot of time here keeping the place clean n organized.
Unless u do something wrong u wont b caught...
Here at xda we are given several official warnings (sometimes just our post /thread deleted or locked n no warning) before being taken down by a mod...
Ok, good. This is discussion already...
I see people with yes and people with no policy but only because some n00b members don't know how to use this forum (don't forget that there is a lot of amount of young people here - under 15 probably) and they probably don't know how things are going here. If this is a BIG problem for forum moderators (huge amount of new members) I suggest to lift boundaries on "when someone can post something" - think about it... it would be less thanks posts and "yipee"-es.
Please continue...
Here are my thoughts:
I still don't understand why we're still whining about munjeni's lost. Yeah, it's painful and disappointing but guys, we should carry on. Since he has given permission to use his work from the "JB PORT Discussion thread" (can't give the link because the mods deleted it), we can start from what he has left. I don't know why's that the JB thread of thunder is still closed. I know nothing compares to munjeni in terms of developing but we still have great devs here and I still have faith in them. Not just because munjeni has left, the development on JB will stop. I know it's a painful lost but we can't do anything about it anymore, we can just learn from it so that we will not lose another dev again. Come on guys....seriously.
Move on and what? If you think people are whining perhaps you can't understand their motivations. I can understand at least two reasons:
1. As the OP says, there are questions of freedom of expression. An example of this which I mentioned was the thread closing (without information) of the discussion thread of those of using the unoffical Jelly Bean port which, is a bit excessive. This is a ROM on my phone now (and many, many other's) and we simply can't discuss it now. Next, we will be banned from discussing the thread closure of the disucssion on deleted ROM. That's when you know it's North Korea - you can't discuss anything. I think these concerns are valid, even if some don't.
2. You need to learn something when things go wrong, or they will repeat themselves. Simply 'moving on' guarentees a repeat of the same experience. That's why people are discussing it.
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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Sir, that would be something to ask that Member directly....and not take it from hearsay.
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But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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heres some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40354794&postcount=438
back on topic
well... Moderators deletes and close thread or comments its normal, its what they do.... they must have valid reason to take actions.
good thing, they are still human and not AI. if they are not here... we'll ended up something like demonoid. people will start posting what ever they want, links to paid apps that they rip or mod. Others will have hard time catching up with roms since everyone starts to copy each other work and claim its theirs....
in short... i dont agree freedom of internet in XDA
Hi everybody
Thaere is ONE best kernel for notr 4 exynos called "ultimte kernel"
Do u know why it closed ????
Whyyyyyy
Same happened with the AEL kernel in the Snapdragon area (incl their rom). Seems that XDA is overwhelmed by the huge amount of developers for the Note 4 that they want to clean up the areas of bit. Who ever finds the irony can keep it. Now we have one last kernel developer for our devices. Ridiculous. That's not the expected development I hoped for. In this case I could go with a cheaper device without any developers because we don't have much more as well. But we'll, whatever. I'm sure the XDA crew has their reasons.
because of the Rules and Regulations
What rules and regs??what happened
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because of the Rules and Regulations
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what ????
what roles r u talking about ?????
that was the #1 kernel for Exynos , what should we do now !!!
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because of the Rules and Regulations
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Same happened with the AEL kernel in the Snapdragon area (incl their rom). Seems that XDA is overwhelmed by the huge amount of developers for the Note 4 that they want to clean up the areas of bit. Who ever finds the irony can keep it. Now we have one last kernel developer for our devices. Ridiculous. That's not the expected development I hoped for. In this case I could go with a cheaper device without any developers because we don't have much more as well. But we'll, whatever. I'm sure the XDA crew has their reasons.
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so this thread is acording to a Dictator rules !!!
how can find them , anyone nows any web site ?
@mehdi.moha
use 4PDA Thread or use Perseus Kernel or StockRider Kernel
just search for the name of the kernel or rom you're looking for in google and you'll find it if its elsewhere than XDA.
Echoe staff disagreed with a moderator on XDA, so they voluntarily left and made their own website. unfortunately this went against an XDA rule, and their XDA content has been locked.
Threads get closed for a variety of reasons, sometimes as is the case with Echoe ROMs, it was the decision of the developer. Sometimes, the moderators close the thread because there are problems with it. Typically the moderator staff can not discuss why we closed a particular thread, because that would violate the privacy of the OP. xda is a development site and we do not close development threads with out a good reason and "excercising our dictatorial skills" is not considered a good reason!
Closed is one thing. But "Discontinued" in thread title is misleading.