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Frustrated devs, re: Polluted dev forums

I don't mean to be an ass here, but I, for one, would be happy to post all my questions in the Q&A section...but looking over there at the numerous questions on just the first page there are probably less than 100 replies, cummulatively, for all those questions. I've posted over there a couple of times and never got an answer from a Dev (the ones that could answer).
So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.

If you ask in the dev's original thread, you often do get an answer and keep from poluting the dev forums.

I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7

flashman2002 said:
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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flashman2002 said:
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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The "Search this thread" option above the thread actually works pretty well. For those of us who can't read 300+ pages of threads looking for an answer.

boomerod said:
So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.
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I agree, that's why some members keep asking on DEV section. No buddy you're not being an ass I understand your frustration.

As someone else stated, if you have a question about a specific thread in the dev forum, then ask it in that thread. Also try the "Search This Thread" option to see if your question has already been asked/answered.
I know some of those threads grow like crazy, but that's where those questions belong.
The devs do this work on their own free time and only get some donations from members. Most of the time I think they mainly monitor their thread or try to help out in other dev threads.
If someone in the community knows the answer and checks that section, then I'm sure they'll point you in the right direction too.
As a mod, I'm trying to keep the dev forum a little cleaner by moving stuff out of there...and IMO, having a General forum and a Q&A forum is a little redundant because lots of stuff in the general forum turns into questions.

Which Galaxy Tab

Hi guys,
I plan on getting the original Galaxy Tab but before I do so, I wanted to know if it makes a difference in terms of rootability/ROMs,etc...
I will only use it with wi-fi so it doesn't matter to me which carrier it is with but that said I do not want to get the wi-fi only version because I hear it is not as powerful as the ones sold by the carriers.
I personally prefer the Sprint one but that's just because it has the white back but I seriously want to make the right decision for the right reasons. I actually bought the asus transformer but I just love that feel of the galaxy tab in your hand, the way you can type,etc and for some reason I do not like honeycomb. I guess I am old school and just like the phone version of Android on my tab.
I'd really appreciate some inputs.
Thanks

You really should read the forum rules. this is the dev section. Questions go in the questions and answers section.
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siacotos said:
You really should read the forum rules. this is the dev section. Questions go in the questions and answers section.
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Thanks, I am aware of the forum rules. I've been around long enough and I know this is the DEV section but my question is kinda related to the developability of this device so that's why I thought this might be a more appropriate section.
If necessary, I'd appreciate if the admins can move it to the q&a section.

Thread should be moved, but I sent you a PM for things to consider when you purchase your Tab. My personal preference is GSM. Hit the thanks button if I helped a brother out.
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Dodolom said:
Thanks, I am aware of the forum rules. I've been around long enough and I know this is the DEV section but my question is kinda related to the developability of this device so that's why I thought this might be a more appropriate section.
If necessary, I'd appreciate if the admins can move it to the q&a section.
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Well you are obviously not aware of the rules otherwise you would know that no questions of ANY kind should be posted here, development based or not.
This section is for posting or work and reference ONLY!
Questions go in Q&A
Developments go in Developments
Simple as that
conantroutman said:
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
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Fair enough, let's move it to Q&A then

You could have read and posted in my thread from several days ago with the exact same title.
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GSM
np for rootability. so go for the gsm variant. (more functionality) thats all.
The performance between both are the same.
Almost(region) all hardware is the same (CPU/RAM/NAND is)
AND YES IDD WORN PLACE FOR YOU QUESTION !!!!!

Re-Arrange Note Development Section (Request to Mods)

Dear Admin and Mods ,
Thank You for you great time and effort in keeping XDA at the top.
However , I and may be many users feel that the Development Section of the Galaxy Note forum is too cluttered . It takes a lot of time to find the appropriate thread of any specific Kernel , ROM etc... I know we can Bookmark the required section , but that is very impractical if there are many sections that we follow.
The re-arrangement should be on basis of separation of threads into Categories like Kernels , ROM's , Mods , and likewise.
I sincerely hope that you will consider my suggestion.
I hope other guys who feel the same , should make a request here.

I really support this plea!

+1 especially different section for ICS and GB

+1 very good idea

What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained

+1 !
It would actually make everything less hectic and those in panic will have some less headache !

To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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dr.ketan said:
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
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I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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Mods have tools for moving stuff about/deleting threads at their disposal, and I don't think they actually need our help in doing that.

zacthespack said:
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Same here.. I almost created it and I thought twice before posting it..that can I maintain it??? So I made a U-turn. This really need some dedication to monitor the thread. I doubt I could do that.
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zacthespack said:
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Yes . its a genuine concern , bot this task must be assigned to 4-5 good people...it will be easily managed.

dr.ketan said:
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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+1 But this option should only be with the mods as you say

chasmodo said:
I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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Yeah. Chilled Beer for you mate.

There is galaxy note wiki by original_ganjaman in general section which contains everything related to SGNote.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note/GT-N7000
I do not think dev section is cluttered.
Can't find something you want ? - Have it bookmarked or theres good old 'search'.
Even searching on google 'XDA Galaxy Note Rocket Rom' will give you the results you want.

+1 Great idea :thumbup:
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@ hulk

For some reason you blocked me from sending PM.
Weird behaviour of a mod, you don't even give new members the change to explain.
So here is what i wanted to send:
Strange, why you closed my thread?
I just saw the link the polish guy posted and found a few answers there.
But not all answers are in that thread, simply because it's not the same rom.
Ok, i'm a new member and don't know all the rules and find everything right away, but since when is it forbidden to ask simpel questions that weren't asked before?
And b.t.w. new memebrs are forced to spam questions in those threads, because we have to wait 10 posts before we can ask in de dev thread.
I understand why that is, but it doesn't solve the problem because after 10 posts people do it anyway.
Thank you for your help/time anyway.
I now reached my 10 posts, so you can close this thread or place it were it belongs (off-topic thread?)

I understand your feeling but many members newbie or not they say use search button first before asking or specially creating a new thread like the one you create there's a identical thread that tonyp's created in that section you can ask there even your post is below 10 because the q&a section is the section where you should learn first the things you want to know because its full of question and answer
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Hulk is the worst mod xda has ever had.

MrXT said:
Hulk is the worst mod xda has ever had.
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You made a new account just to say that? I'm impressed.
This thread should be closed now.

If there no answers then ask a question in proper thread and it will be added to Q&A.
Your thread was closed, because I reported it as useless.
If MrXT would became moderator, he probably behaved the same. I am moderator on another forum too and some user just don't feel rules that the person must keep to make forum clean. MrXT is just a hater, don't know what his mind is pointed on.
Hulk does his job very good
Sorry, if I offenses you. I wanted to point you to ask all questions in thread that contains library which grows up i properly thread.
Cheers.
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lottumeb said:
For some reason you blocked me from sending PM.
Weird behaviour of a mod, you don't even give new members the change to explain.
So here is what i wanted to send:
Strange, why you closed my thread?
I just saw the link the polish guy posted and found a few answers there.
But not all answers are in that thread, simply because it's not the same rom.
Ok, i'm a new member and don't know all the rules and find everything right away, but since when is it forbidden to ask simpel questions that weren't asked before?
And b.t.w. new memebrs are forced to spam questions in those threads, because we have to wait 10 posts before we can ask in de dev thread.
I understand why that is, but it doesn't solve the problem because after 10 posts people do it anyway.
Thank you for your help/time anyway.
I now reached my 10 posts, so you can close this thread or place it were it belongs (off-topic thread?)
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What the hell are you complaining about?
Your thread was closed with a very polite message pointing you towards the correct place for your question and your response is to throw a public tantrum....
Nobody has stopped you sending PMs and pointless threads will be closed, just like this one.

Post in the correct section for god's sake!

I'm wondering, is it really that hard to post in the correct section? Here are some threads that should be in Q&A, but all were on the first page in General when I copied their links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994691
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990224
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994362
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978458
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993701
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986175
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987624
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989000
That is 12 out of 20 threads (the stickied ones were not included) on the first page that weren't posted where they should be.
Also, I noticed that most of these threads were started by people with none to very few posts... Connection?
I sense that this thread might get closed for some reason.
The threads that I linked to should be closed/moved, or the newbies (mostly, some senior members as well..) who haven't yet developed the ability to read will soon post every single question they have in General...
My suggestion is increasing the post requirement before you can post in General.

A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)

neovdr said:
A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)
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B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.

tonyp said:
B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.
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Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.

neovdr said:
Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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Apart from the fact that I and a couple others in fact ARE scanning the q&a section every now and then for questions which are lacking an answer and are not covered in any of the other threads:
That's not a valid reason to post in the wrong section. Especially considering the kind of questions linked in the OP which are pretty often already covered multiple times all over xda.
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neovdr said:
Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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grimmyrippy said:
you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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The thing is when I go into the Q&A and see a bunch of old threads I am gonna think like that. I didn't talk out of my ass but went to the section and that was what compelled me to answer. The problems of this forum imo are solved with active moderation. Things like warnings, thread deletions and relocations. Until that investment is made we will be suffering this kind of problems.