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Dear Admin and Mods ,
Thank You for you great time and effort in keeping XDA at the top.
However , I and may be many users feel that the Development Section of the Galaxy Note forum is too cluttered . It takes a lot of time to find the appropriate thread of any specific Kernel , ROM etc... I know we can Bookmark the required section , but that is very impractical if there are many sections that we follow.
The re-arrangement should be on basis of separation of threads into Categories like Kernels , ROM's , Mods , and likewise.
I sincerely hope that you will consider my suggestion.
I hope other guys who feel the same , should make a request here.
I really support this plea!
+1 especially different section for ICS and GB
+1 very good idea
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
+1 !
It would actually make everything less hectic and those in panic will have some less headache !
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
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I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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Mods have tools for moving stuff about/deleting threads at their disposal, and I don't think they actually need our help in doing that.
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What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Same here.. I almost created it and I thought twice before posting it..that can I maintain it??? So I made a U-turn. This really need some dedication to monitor the thread. I doubt I could do that.
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zacthespack said:
What most device sub sections have when there is alot of development is a index thread with a member who will basiclly keep a index of everything so you can easily find the threads, I was thinking about doing this myself but not sure if I have the time to keep that and the torrent list maintained
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Yes . its a genuine concern , bot this task must be assigned to 4-5 good people...it will be easily managed.
dr.ketan said:
To start thread in dev section should have some strict rule.
And just like 'spam', reporting option shud have 'move' option, so it will be easy for mod also. N helps in keeping dev sec clean.
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+1 But this option should only be with the mods as you say
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I support this wholeheartedly. I'd suggest a minimum of 100 posts in the Note forum - not someplace else - before being able to start a thread in Dev. I emphasized 'not someplace else' because we've seen people with lots of posts and thanks to their credit starting ridiculous threads in Dev - they obviously got their credentials in some other XDA forum. One was even a recognized developer.
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Yeah. Chilled Beer for you mate.
There is galaxy note wiki by original_ganjaman in general section which contains everything related to SGNote.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note/GT-N7000
I do not think dev section is cluttered.
Can't find something you want ? - Have it bookmarked or theres good old 'search'.
Even searching on google 'XDA Galaxy Note Rocket Rom' will give you the results you want.
+1 Great idea :thumbup:
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Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
xCookie said:
Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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-shaMe- said:
Agree... Fxp cm10 thread for sola was closed twice. No explanation.
Ps: first time it was reasonable.. But 2nd time.. There was no reason for closure..
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Coz it was continuously being spammed wid useless posts so it was btr to close it off
There has to be a balance between freedom and rules
100% freedom means no rules and thus things going out of control
Xda is well managed
Rest of the internet... Is good until CIPSA is passed...
Edit - reported for mod review... Its btr we discuss phones and not our freedom on xda
This place has rules and its best to follow them
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Hello community.
I am old fan of these forums (changed 5-6 phones over years) and always find it most usefull from all other over internet. Recenty I have feeling that this XDAdeveloper network became something they initial wanted to avoid and over the years they strugle with petitions etc.
THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET (and your right to speak free)
Fact: Threads are closed on every mimics and blinks of eyes all over the forums or posts deleted.
Please consider this as Discussion but not flaming and be gentle and polite to everyone who rise voice. What's are your thoughts?
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u noob are u craze
do u want to destroy the form i don’t agree
OP, yes Freedom of the Internet is just that, free to speak but with any organized sense of freedom there are rules to help govern or else it would be randomness/uselessness.
Regarding XDA, as with any forum there are Forum Rules and when Members violate them....then action is required. Maintaining a Forum of this size of Members is a task, but remember this is a Development Site, not a social site.
And as you seem to think your freedom is taken way with the maintenance that is required on the threads, keep in mind again the sole purpose of this site is for Development.
To OP - in short, I agree.
I've opened threads or discussed things which were deleted. Some mods I've communicated with were reasonable and fair but many were not. Communicating with some of them by PM, some were very angry, aggressive, unreasonable etc. I tell you, my nieces and nephews who are young seem calm and resonable by comparisson. Also, I'm quite sure a lot of 'support' goes on behind the scenes. Post number and thanks meter are currencies here, they go far beyond 'showing appreciation' etc. 'Might is right' that's the attitude of a bully or a dictator, not an authority . So, it's 'open' and 'democratic' only up to a point - where it suits particular people. The policies for complaining were equally a joke, in my experience. After that, I decided to keep my posts strickly related to my 'mod' interests and never get side-tracked again. When these people make you angry, remember to let it go, this is not the real world.
ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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ok... i had four android devices: Defy, Xperia Sola, Nexus 7 and Razr I, still have three of this (sola, Razr I and Nexus 7).... Only in this forum i have seen this kind of constriction of users... i could give some examples: In Defy Android Development Forum, cm10 port for Defy, made by Quarx (maybe someone know him, he was the winner of the December contest for devs), there is a enormous flood of noobish post (how to install, stupid questions about fc's, stupid thanks posts, etc.) despite three or four threads in general sections for reporting bugs and other stuff correlated, but Quarx did deleted or close thread? No! Because he only focus in what really matter: Development. He ignores everything else. So, maybe, some devs could learn about this behaviour. And what mods tells about it? sometimes, they made a soft cleanup of useless post...that's all... Sometimes Closing thread doesn't help at all to the community.... I think mods maybe could take a more practical and polite position...
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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I never saw any 'useful' thread being closed by our mods in this sub forum....
Cm10 thread was closed twice..reason because of spam..only posts such as thanks and great... Yippy... Etc etc
I reported the thread twice to b cleaned
There is a great inflow of members.. Every day 100 of noobs are added and merely few developers...
Useless posts really makes it difficult to find actually useful info..
When I was new here I did created a thread which was closed and I did pm'ed a moderator abt it
Bt now I understand I was wrong... U just cant let this place be cluttered wid useless threads and posts
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if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
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if you need to find some "useful" info, you always can use the search function of xda... I know a lot of noobs doesn't even use that before posting, but i expect that some of the "old" users could do it...
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
U never knw what are u 'exactly' searching for... Upto the level of thread search performs good ... Within a thread and specifically for finding something useful... Its a pain
Dont u think it is necessary to prevent unnecessary posts and threads? Closing a useless or a mirror thread is necessary
Once people realise there Is no one to check/control... The place would go garbage
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Only if members of this forums were more kind and helpful to everyone we could avoid a lot of questions and together we could make more easy the job for the mods. That's something that i miss of Defy Development forum: The sense of real community, in fact, the little knowing about android modding and dev, i have learned in there. You could check for yourself what i'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768702
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Yup I knw search function
Btw ho do u expect me to find something useful in a thread wid 100 pages and 1000 posts...
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
dev should ignore newbies because its not the fault of all of us. we dont deserve to lose the scope of JB. and when i had my defy i only knew 1 god for my mobile.. Quarx.. he made things which were not possible without him. i though sola's god was better than him. but he is pissed off by few noobs.
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Me too! I always have that problem, you try as best as you can.
I recently went to the discussion thread of the unofficial Sola Jelly Bean port. The discussion thread is now also closed. I contacted a mod to ask for information. There was no information in the thread! Next, we will be banned from discussing the discussion of the deleted thread...
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Mods arent that hard...and never will be
How many of us have received any official warning?? None of us I guess bcoz we were smart enough to refrain ourselves from posting non sense... Bt not all have that sense...
We need to understand what mods do is best for the forum... We may be relatively new here bt not the mods.. Some have been here since the website was started... Some although 2-3 yrs old on website spends a lot of time here keeping the place clean n organized.
Unless u do something wrong u wont b caught...
Here at xda we are given several official warnings (sometimes just our post /thread deleted or locked n no warning) before being taken down by a mod...
Ok, good. This is discussion already...
I see people with yes and people with no policy but only because some n00b members don't know how to use this forum (don't forget that there is a lot of amount of young people here - under 15 probably) and they probably don't know how things are going here. If this is a BIG problem for forum moderators (huge amount of new members) I suggest to lift boundaries on "when someone can post something" - think about it... it would be less thanks posts and "yipee"-es.
Please continue...
Here are my thoughts:
I still don't understand why we're still whining about munjeni's lost. Yeah, it's painful and disappointing but guys, we should carry on. Since he has given permission to use his work from the "JB PORT Discussion thread" (can't give the link because the mods deleted it), we can start from what he has left. I don't know why's that the JB thread of thunder is still closed. I know nothing compares to munjeni in terms of developing but we still have great devs here and I still have faith in them. Not just because munjeni has left, the development on JB will stop. I know it's a painful lost but we can't do anything about it anymore, we can just learn from it so that we will not lose another dev again. Come on guys....seriously.
Move on and what? If you think people are whining perhaps you can't understand their motivations. I can understand at least two reasons:
1. As the OP says, there are questions of freedom of expression. An example of this which I mentioned was the thread closing (without information) of the discussion thread of those of using the unoffical Jelly Bean port which, is a bit excessive. This is a ROM on my phone now (and many, many other's) and we simply can't discuss it now. Next, we will be banned from discussing the thread closure of the disucssion on deleted ROM. That's when you know it's North Korea - you can't discuss anything. I think these concerns are valid, even if some don't.
2. You need to learn something when things go wrong, or they will repeat themselves. Simply 'moving on' guarentees a repeat of the same experience. That's why people are discussing it.
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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MUHAMMAD KHALIL said:
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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Sir, that would be something to ask that Member directly....and not take it from hearsay.
MUHAMMAD KHALIL said:
But I want to know,why munjeni left us.?
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heres some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40354794&postcount=438
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well... Moderators deletes and close thread or comments its normal, its what they do.... they must have valid reason to take actions.
good thing, they are still human and not AI. if they are not here... we'll ended up something like demonoid. people will start posting what ever they want, links to paid apps that they rip or mod. Others will have hard time catching up with roms since everyone starts to copy each other work and claim its theirs....
in short... i dont agree freedom of internet in XDA
To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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The person who released the rom was banned and accused of scamming xda users. Why would xda want to support that by allowing discussion of his work? I believe xda recommends removing his work, or seek support elsewhere.
By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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graydiggy said:
By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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With all due respect, I was, in no way suggesting supporting such ROMs or devs, nor did I mention any such thing. I am merely recommending that discussion of them should be allowed with regards on what to do now that they are no longer supported. I fully understand the implications of what bad things could happen, however a blanket "all discussions are banned - period!" is not good, and I think discussion is necessary to move on and away from potentially bad ROMs and evil devs. Just my $.02
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By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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I was scammed, I have seen some of the evidence and I agree with the actions xda took.
I wish I had detected the scam sooner. I wish xda had detected it sooner.
I wish I could redirect my donations to a legitimate developer. To me, donations partially compensate for what I cannot yet contribute technically.
I feel stupid and abused by an individual who had no business being here.
Part of what I do is complex embedded firmware and dsp coding. My credits go back as far as the Air Communicator (1995). One of the first integrated cellular data phones.
I join Institutions of knowledge and teaching like xda to learn and improve my tools. Organizations like xda can be destroyed by injecting Comercial schemes where they do not belong.
Altruistic donations to legitimate developers have no doubt been harmed at a minimum.
At some point I will begin developing for the Android platform as well. I hope xda will still be there when I can give back what the community has contributed to me.
My pressing near term question is where can I learn how to safely get off the knoxraid 5.6 platform?
Not that I am qualified to run it, but may I respectfully suggest a thread on how to move off this rom and onto a legitimate developer's work.
I propose the objective would be ONLY moving off, support of Knoxraid would be forbidden.
Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
Kent Kernahan
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I was scammed, I have seen some of the evidence and I agree with the actions xda took.
I wish I had detected the scam sooner. I wish xda had detected it sooner.
I wish I could redirect my donations to a legitimate developer. To me, donations partially compensate for what I cannot yet contribute technically.
I feel stupid and abused by an individual who had no business being here.
Part of what I do is complex embedded firmware and dsp coding. My credits go back as far as the Air Communicator (1995). One of the first integrated cellular data phones.
I join Institutions of knowledge and teaching like xda to learn and improve my tools. Organizations like xda can be destroyed by injecting Comercial schemes where they do not belong.
Altruistic donations to legitimate developers have no doubt been harmed at a minimum.
At some point I will begin developing for the Android platform as well. I hope xda will still be there when I can give back what the community has contributed to me.
My pressing near term question is where can I learn how to safely get off the knoxraid 5.6 platform?
Not that I am qualified to run it, but may I respectfully suggest a thread on how to move off this rom and onto a legitimate developer's work.
I propose the objective would be ONLY moving off, support of Knoxraid would be forbidden.
Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
Kent Kernahan
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There is a new KK ROM available and another soon to pop up. All you do is upgrade your SS to the latest that supports KK now with and flash one of those ROMs.
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I think what should be done is that a mod should create a stickied thread to be monitored closely, including instructions for how to move from the rom in question to a safe rom. That way it spreads knowledge that the rom is unsafe, to get rid of it, and with instructions to replace so people arent floundering
There is an easy method. Revert to MJ5 thread.
There does not need to be a discussion or a thread involved. It is that simple. The thread is located in the general section.
There are other methods, like what I said above as well. Why do we need a dedicated thread?
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graydiggy said:
There is an easy method. Revert to MJ5 thread.
There does not need to be a discussion or a thread involved. It is that simple. The thread is located in the general section.
There are other methods, like what I said above as well. Why do we need a dedicated thread?
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You have a point, but the only reason i make the suggestion is that you and I both know damn well no one reads anything but the first post of any thread lol. It may not require an actual thread for discussion (as, there indeed is nothing to be discussed further on the topic), but maybe at least a closed sticky to serve as a public service announcement that will grab peoples eye before they go posting 9 million more annoying threads or responses to irrelevant threads asking about it.
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actually I have a better idea. what if a mod were to edit the thread in the dev section to say something along the lines of "this developement no longer supported by XDA, we suggest moving to another rom/etc here are the current threads for instructions"
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To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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I implore you to explain to me how, without the developer, discussion of your issues will lead to a resolution?
He is not allowed here and after being banned, as such neither are his works. This isn't unusual and he was not singled out.
Especially in this instance, where he was scamming users for money for devices that he later sold for, you guessed it, even more money...
Users are not being punished by us closing the threads, they're being protected from further abuse and scams. If you're looking to give your money away, I know of a lot of deserving charities that will actually put it to good use.
So, sorry but his threads will remain closed, and this one will also.
XDA is forum for Custom ROMs, Discussion, Troubleshooting, etc.
From sometime Thread OP are creating a Telegram group to discuss bugs, troubleshooting and other things, and posting the Links in OP then what is meaning of creating threads on XDA. Why XDA mods are allowing these threads. My personal opinion is all the discussions regarding the ROM or Kernel should go on thread not on other platforms.
What do other XDA members think. Share your views here to stop these practice's.
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XDA is forum for Custom ROMs, Discussion, Troubleshooting, etc...........
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I understand what your referring to as I've seen this as well from time to time...
I had thought that there was an XDA Forum Rule(s) that restricts the sole use of the Telegram on the forum (I believe that there's more to this rule as well)
The choice of one of the following threads is probably your best bet for providing this type of feedback.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
Only a Moderator/Administrator (like @MikeChannon or @Darth for example) can really provide a clear outline/understanding for this rule.
Good Luck!
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There's this we put out not long ago, https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/telegram-chat-channels-forward-t3764521
Basically, no TG links should be anywhere on xda, except in post number one of a development thread, only. We realize devs may want some quick communication with members for some issues, and real time chat is obviously quick.
But no links to TG should be anywhere else on xda. :good:
Just hit report if you see links outside of the first post in a dev thread, and mods will handle it.
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There's this we put out not long ago,.........
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Thank you very much for your time with providing this valuable guidance!
Now I know more about the XDA Policy regarding this specific topic.
I am not a big fan of the Telegram being used as a primary means of support for a development and such that's posted on the Forum but, I felt that it could be an alternative tool in addition to active support on the said Developmental Thread posted.
Just my personal thoughts... :thumbup:
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.... I felt that it could be an alternative tool in addition to active support on the said Developmental Thread posted.....
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Exactly! One TG link in a dev thread op is supposed to be an optional way of communicating. Definitely never the only way. If it's found that a OP is only supporting, discussing or updating on Telegram, the thread would likely be closed if its discovered to be this way. :good:
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Exactly! One TG link in a dev thread op is supposed to be an optional way of communicating. Definitely never the only way. If it's found that a OP is only supporting, discussing or updating on Telegram, the thread would likely be closed if its discovered to be this way. :good:
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Thank you for clearing this up.
Sometimes some user post a bug or need troubleshooting, other user guide him/her to a Telegram group for that specific thing and do not discuss it inside thread. This should not be permitted.
I think there should be strict rule regarding what is permitted to discuss outside the thread.
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Thank you for clearing this up...........
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Just my opinion on this (and from what I understand regarding the XDA Rules)...
I believe that there can be certain circumstances with providing guidance via Telegram but, it shouldn't be the sole option for the member.
As a member myself, I actually don't use Telegram but, I have used it previously under certain circumstances that are very seldom if that.
As a developer myself, sometimes there's support/guidance that is preferred to be taken offline and, if needed, the results would be determined to be of value to other members within the thread or something that didn't.
I do personally prefer to keep most conversations on the thread as something beneficial to other members but, there has been occasions that I'd prefer to take it offline to prevent misunderstandings and confusion.
I hope that I had stated the above okay via text... :thumbup:
I did notice that this discussion was also continued elsewhere, and even responded to by @the_scotsman and @Weapon X as well...
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I understand the want for this but lets all really be honest. Development and support has been moved off XDA for years. A forum setup just doesnt really benefit the fast paced nature of currant development. Even back when I made roms for the old Galaxy S1 the team would do all development off site. Mostly because it was a faster response time. XDA has become a staging ground for roms while everything development and learning are done in chats. Like The most popular telegram or whats app and I hear some are even using discord (not sure about that last one as it seems out of place on a gaming messaging platform but hey)
As for the rule about the link only being in the OP. Well they have been getting around that by sending PM with the links or just flat out posting the links. No one reports it so no mods see it unless they stumble upon it.
If XDA wants to remain somewhere other then a place to post rom links thy might want to figure out that IM style messaging setup sooner or later.
Darth I can tell you that thererare many roms that are only updating on telegram and only offer support there as well. Everything posted here is just the "stable" versions if you know what I mean. Long has XDA been being used as a traffic grab by many.
Just my 2cents.
Is Custom ROM safe to install in smartphones? because most of the custom ROM's soft brick the phone.
I joined trb telegram gp and was totally amazed with the charging speed 2000-2100ma consistent at any temp. Then after a while noticed temp rises to whoping 47-48C contantly. Then I compared trb to pbh in the group in this good manner
Trb= Fast charging with 47C temp
Any other kernal= Ok charge speed with temp 43C max(in pb*). The trade off are equivalent trb not so gr8 as I thought.. Then a member told bb is not good then i shared charging speed of pbh in response to an admin telling pbh is bad(yes an admin talked and continue chat about pbh after all he is admin) vai screenshot and got fban immediately yes just shared the pic and after that fban from the group no warning no rules at all. Once in PE I was using no username so the admin warned me twice and third time they gave me 5 min. See the difference totally baised community even trb is closed sourced that's why thier thread is closed. And their every download link has tons and tons of ads.
BTW my thanks meter is just 1 cuz never asked anyone
TRB CLOSED THREAD LINK go and see what moderate reason were for closer https://forum.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1/development/kernel-theragingbeast-derpgang-t3862835/page6
They were redirecting to telegram gp so that they can monetize vai their ****ty download links
XDA is not a place to discuss about Telegram groups, whether the group is good, or bad.
Okay
1. Why dont u ask other kernel cookers to get such speed
2. So when u r noob lemme tell asus P blobs are also responsible for heat, so go and complain about it to asus
3. When u share ss of our group u may need to provide proof of other kernels too. Common sense
4. Our thread was closed by mods because we didn't provide source because it was reported by so called m1 devs. So when u r not aware of such things dont try to get involved.
5. You are not forced to use this or that kernel infact roms too. No need to post such useless **** like this on xda platform.
6. Urs concerns barely effect us because we work based on our satisfaction not yours.
7. Try to learn about kernel before placing such useless **** like battery performance. We gave freedom to users to set what they want
8. Finally u say above ton community biased ??? I left to ur wisdom this one.
Thanks
Don't bring outside matters into XDA.
1. This is not the right platform to discuss this.
2. Never compare any ROM/Kernel... Developers make things according to their liking and they do not get paid for this.
Dude xda is xda and telegram is telegram.
Don't ever refer other platforms for issues here.
Also did you pay the developer to build a specific piece of software for you? If you didn't then you can't complain what they give you for free. If you use their software then thank them for giving their services for free.
Also no two developers are same TRB Developers can make their kernel as they want they did not came to you, you used their product for free.
If you like Pbh then be happy and don't compare kernels and roms each have their own set of modifications and features.
If you face a issue with any software which is free to you, you can only suggest the developer hoping it gets fixed. You can not demand anything from them according to your likings.
If you want everything you want hire developers and then you can have whatever you want. But if you use free stuff be grateful and thankful.
You bought the device from Asus and paid them go and complain to their devs don't cry on xda and telegram.
Hope this clears things up and teaches you what android developers do for you.
See the attachment first.
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Dude xda is xda and telegram is telegram.
Don't ever refer other platforms for issues here.
Also did you pay the developer to build a specific piece of software for you? If you didn't then you can't complain what they give you for free. If you use their software then thank them for giving their services for free.
Also no two developers are same TRB Developers can make their kernel as they want they did not came to you, you used their product for free.
If you like Pbh then be happy and don't compare kernels and roms each have their own set of modifications and features.
If you face a issue with any software which is free to you, you can only suggest the developer hoping it gets fixed. You can not demand anything from them according to your likings.
If you want everything you want hire developers and then you can have whatever you want. But if you use free stuff be grateful and thankful.
You bought the device from Asus and paid them go and complain to their devs don't cry on xda and telegram.
Hope this clears things up and teaches you what android developers do for you.
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If you read correctly the whole thing is how they banned me and how they reacted when I asked for justification
Hello,
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