To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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The person who released the rom was banned and accused of scamming xda users. Why would xda want to support that by allowing discussion of his work? I believe xda recommends removing his work, or seek support elsewhere.
By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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With all due respect, I was, in no way suggesting supporting such ROMs or devs, nor did I mention any such thing. I am merely recommending that discussion of them should be allowed with regards on what to do now that they are no longer supported. I fully understand the implications of what bad things could happen, however a blanket "all discussions are banned - period!" is not good, and I think discussion is necessary to move on and away from potentially bad ROMs and evil devs. Just my $.02
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By allowing discussion and support of these ROMs, we would be allowing people to be possibly exposed to malicious software. We do not know what, if anything could have been added to the ROMs so it is safer to just remove them all together. It is apparent that the intent was malicious and we do not want any further issues to arise from it. Also, we might be subjected to some backlash from the "developer" because it is his work, and he could say or could have already said we are not allowed to use it or support it.
Something that people fail to realize is there is a method to the madness. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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I was scammed, I have seen some of the evidence and I agree with the actions xda took.
I wish I had detected the scam sooner. I wish xda had detected it sooner.
I wish I could redirect my donations to a legitimate developer. To me, donations partially compensate for what I cannot yet contribute technically.
I feel stupid and abused by an individual who had no business being here.
Part of what I do is complex embedded firmware and dsp coding. My credits go back as far as the Air Communicator (1995). One of the first integrated cellular data phones.
I join Institutions of knowledge and teaching like xda to learn and improve my tools. Organizations like xda can be destroyed by injecting Comercial schemes where they do not belong.
Altruistic donations to legitimate developers have no doubt been harmed at a minimum.
At some point I will begin developing for the Android platform as well. I hope xda will still be there when I can give back what the community has contributed to me.
My pressing near term question is where can I learn how to safely get off the knoxraid 5.6 platform?
Not that I am qualified to run it, but may I respectfully suggest a thread on how to move off this rom and onto a legitimate developer's work.
I propose the objective would be ONLY moving off, support of Knoxraid would be forbidden.
Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
Kent Kernahan
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I was scammed, I have seen some of the evidence and I agree with the actions xda took.
I wish I had detected the scam sooner. I wish xda had detected it sooner.
I wish I could redirect my donations to a legitimate developer. To me, donations partially compensate for what I cannot yet contribute technically.
I feel stupid and abused by an individual who had no business being here.
Part of what I do is complex embedded firmware and dsp coding. My credits go back as far as the Air Communicator (1995). One of the first integrated cellular data phones.
I join Institutions of knowledge and teaching like xda to learn and improve my tools. Organizations like xda can be destroyed by injecting Comercial schemes where they do not belong.
Altruistic donations to legitimate developers have no doubt been harmed at a minimum.
At some point I will begin developing for the Android platform as well. I hope xda will still be there when I can give back what the community has contributed to me.
My pressing near term question is where can I learn how to safely get off the knoxraid 5.6 platform?
Not that I am qualified to run it, but may I respectfully suggest a thread on how to move off this rom and onto a legitimate developer's work.
I propose the objective would be ONLY moving off, support of Knoxraid would be forbidden.
Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
Kent Kernahan
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There is a new KK ROM available and another soon to pop up. All you do is upgrade your SS to the latest that supports KK now with and flash one of those ROMs.
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I think what should be done is that a mod should create a stickied thread to be monitored closely, including instructions for how to move from the rom in question to a safe rom. That way it spreads knowledge that the rom is unsafe, to get rid of it, and with instructions to replace so people arent floundering
There is an easy method. Revert to MJ5 thread.
There does not need to be a discussion or a thread involved. It is that simple. The thread is located in the general section.
There are other methods, like what I said above as well. Why do we need a dedicated thread?
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There is an easy method. Revert to MJ5 thread.
There does not need to be a discussion or a thread involved. It is that simple. The thread is located in the general section.
There are other methods, like what I said above as well. Why do we need a dedicated thread?
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You have a point, but the only reason i make the suggestion is that you and I both know damn well no one reads anything but the first post of any thread lol. It may not require an actual thread for discussion (as, there indeed is nothing to be discussed further on the topic), but maybe at least a closed sticky to serve as a public service announcement that will grab peoples eye before they go posting 9 million more annoying threads or responses to irrelevant threads asking about it.
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actually I have a better idea. what if a mod were to edit the thread in the dev section to say something along the lines of "this developement no longer supported by XDA, we suggest moving to another rom/etc here are the current threads for instructions"
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To the Mods who insist on closing what they consider "banned" threads:
Please consider the large portion of users of certain ROMs that are no longer in development due to issues beyond users' control. It is not their fault that a Dev decided to do something stupid. Discussions on these ROMs is necessary to help our community work to make our phones better. By not allowing any discussions at all on this, you are pretty much screwing all of us. I implore you to please reopen those closed threads and/or allow discussion on all ROMs that may or may not have been "tainted" by certain issues with "bad" developers. Thanks.
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I implore you to explain to me how, without the developer, discussion of your issues will lead to a resolution?
He is not allowed here and after being banned, as such neither are his works. This isn't unusual and he was not singled out.
Especially in this instance, where he was scamming users for money for devices that he later sold for, you guessed it, even more money...
Users are not being punished by us closing the threads, they're being protected from further abuse and scams. If you're looking to give your money away, I know of a lot of deserving charities that will actually put it to good use.
So, sorry but his threads will remain closed, and this one will also.
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There has been some discussion and rumor about a ghost thread and someone keeping a rom from the public, I've looked into the situation and by this message would like to respond publicly about it. I hope this will clear up any rumors going around and will return this forum to what it should be, a place to discuss and develop.
The "ghost thread":
The thread with subject "How to cook in a OEM Application (package) with uninstall functions?" has been closed by the moderator Duttythroy by request of the original poster. This can be seen in google cache as well as on this screenshot from our pda archive. It has been permanently removed from the forum and can not be restored. This happens often when a thread is closed and doesn't seem to be of much importance to prevent clutter in the forum. To prevent discussions like these in the future I've removed the ability to permanently remove threads from now on.
I have no reason to believe this thread was removed on purpose with malicious intent.
Accusations of keeping a rom from the public:
There have been accusations that a certain member is keeping a source rom from the public by paying people not to distribute it. The person who allegedly got paid to not share this rom does not wish to tell me who did this nor wishes to provide proof for this. As the system shows this user has removed all messages in his PM box there is no way for me to gain access to this information if it ever was in his PM box to begin with. I thus have no reason to believe that a rom is being kept from the public with malicious intent.
About the sharing principle in general:
A lot of rom chefs have complained that keeping a rom from other chefs no matter what the reason is a breach of the sharing principle of this forum and should be punished.
Though we believe that by sharing the community will benefit most it is not a rule, I can not nor do I wish to force people to share. Sometimes there are simply more important issues with a rom that might cause someone not to want to share, think of sources that need protecting or legal issues. I don't think our sharing principle should be enforced with the risk of sources losing their jobs or people getting sued because they shared, this most certainly won't be good for the future of xda-developers.
Best regards,
Flar
p.s. I will leave this thread open for discussion for a while, but do request that you do not post personal attacks here and try to keep the discussion civil.
Flar said:
There has been some discussion and rumor about a ghost thread and someone keeping a rom from the public, I've looked into the situation and by this message would like to respond publicly about it. I hope this will clear up any rumors going around and will return this forum to what it should be, a place to discuss and develop.
The "ghost thread":
The thread with subject "How to cook in a OEM Application (package) with uninstall functions?" has been closed by the moderator Duttythroy by request of the original poster. This can be seen in google cache as well as on this screenshot from our pda archive. It has been permanently removed from the forum and can not be restored. This happens often when a thread is closed and doesn't seem to be of much importance to prevent clutter in the forum. To prevent discussions like these in the future I've removed the ability to permanently remove threads from now on.
I have no reason to believe this thread was removed on purpose with malicious intent.
Accusations of keeping a rom from the public:
There have been accusations that a certain member is keeping a source rom from the public by paying people not to distribute it. The person who allegedly got paid to not share this rom does not wish to tell me who did this nor wishes to provide proof for this. As the system shows this user has removed all messages in his PM box there is no way for me to gain access to this information if it ever was in his PM box to begin with. I thus have no reason to believe that a rom is being kept from the public with malicious intent.
About the sharing principle in general:
A lot of rom chefs have complained that keeping a rom from other chefs no matter what the reason is a breach of the sharing principle of this forum and should be punished.
Though we believe that by sharing the community will benefit most it is not a rule, I can not nor do I wish to force people to share. Sometimes there are simply more important issues with a rom that might cause someone not to want to share, think of sources that need protecting or legal issues. I don't think our sharing principle should be enforced with the risk of sources losing their jobs or people getting sued because they shared, this most certainly won't be good for the future of xda-developers.
Best regards,
Flar
p.s. I will leave this thread open for discussion for a while, but do request that you do not post personal attacks here and try to keep the discussion civil.
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I respect your choice. Good work to all the chefs, mods and admin.
I respect your choice!
Good work to everybody!
You do what you have to do.
Respect!
Thanks Flar for clearing things up.
I can only hope this has now been resolved and harmony returns to xda developers.
I think Flar is right, but for another reason that she didn't mention, I believe that sharing is good for the community, but sharing means to be willing to share. If you force someone to share something, it's more like stealing.
Can we all be friends again now?
Group hug??
The real question now is this:
Is everything going to return to normal in the forum now?
Or did we lost some chefs/mods?
I guess time will tell...
Since there isn't much that can be done and the Admin did whatever he could and posted the investigation results publicly, we should respect his decision and accept the facts on the face value and not on assumptions. I hope things will getback to normal and the chefs would reopen their ROMs for the public, who love and adore their work.
XDA is a wonderful place for HTC device owners due to the extremely talanted developers and chefs, who are anytime better than the ones wotking at Microsoft and HTC.
So I humbly request all the chefs to re-open their ROMs to the loving and dedicated fans and get back the XDA spirit.
Thank you.
Hello
Thanks for the clear answer and hope that's poeple are going down a bit..
Still unclear if the cookers can share the new rom or not... as the Admin didn't find any proof
Anyway hope that it was just a little storm
Long life to XDA
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I think Flar is right, but for another reason that she didn't mention, I believe that sharing is good for the community, but sharing means to be willing to share. If you force someone to share something, it's more like stealing.
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Exactly.
Personally If I give my word to someone promising not to do something, I will do that, and I expect that also others respect this, and behave coherently with my position.
Clearly as steted in the first post above, when such an extent is reached (like people getting sued or fired) this becomes exponentially more important.
I would like to say that I just joined this community before the thing blew, and as far as I am concerned it seems that things are cooling down, so thanks to the Admins and Moderators for your efforts. (We are civil people, or at least we should behave like it)
Also a thank to all the Chef's, because you can do what I cannot, I appreciate your work, please do not get discouraged and keep it up with the excellent service you provide to the masses here on XDA.
Ciao from Italy.
I am glad there has been progress on the matter.
What happened was sooooooooooo unnecessary and i still believe could have been dealt with better.
I have posted a PM to Flar about how i feel.
XDA is more important than individuals, this must not happen again.
Phew, feel better now
Good speech, but I think everything is the same!
The world is made of corruption, and where it is you can not do anything!
Chef small is nothing, but Big Chef power can not be discussed.
Solution: Leave XDA or lives to it so.
I continue make my roms with love.. Not with money!!!
MaryOne is here to make people happy!!!
Life is beautiful!
Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
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Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
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It's up to dutty to decide if he wants to discuss this but i think he should do that when he's ready. I've spoken to him yesterday and he's currently very busy with his personal life so it might take some time.
Best regards,
Flar
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Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
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I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
Hopefully we can all resume normal communication now. The rules have been changed so that it won't be possible for mods to permanently erase threads which offers some official traceability if issues arise.
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I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
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In all closed threads Dutty have many "lawyers", I think not need. He will surely respond.
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I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
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Let him answer and not his lawyers.
At least... with your hand to put in... and with your comment and your decision, this makes sense and let all of users to understand this matter.
Now.. i'm really happy and wish all of your cookers to return to our famous website.
Thanks,
KCJ
Well guys, I am seriously thinking of leaving xda. All of my posts are being moved from development to general "lufc" stating that they have nothing to do with development. Granted 1 or 2 of them dont, but not all of them. And he is leaving up posts in there from users that posted stuff since before I even owned this device. I will stay on here til I get CWM running. But after that I am thinking of leaving for good.
Dont take this the wrong way. I mean a couple of you are giving some useful insight, but honestly I am working on this myself and I only got 19 thanks on here and no donations. I mean, im not asking by any means for anyone to fork up anything for this especially since I have not finished the first and most essential need for the streak before any deving can be done. But with that being said, after I get CWM completed, there is really nothing holding me here since you guys wont even see my posts when they get moved half way across the universe.
Sorry guys. And then again, I might just stay, who knows
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This issue has been raised in the past, and it was determined by the Senior staff that any threads in [Device] Development must either contain a released product (i.e. ROMs), or tweaks/patches (i.e. registry fixes). Any threads that do not meet these requirements will be moved to General. All questions will be moved to Q&A is it exists for a particular device.
@OP: Creating a thread like this is not the correct channel to discuss actions taken by a Forum Moderator. Going forward, please reply to the automated PM you received as each thread was moved, or send a PM to any Senior Moderator, and we will take a look.
While I do understand limiting newbies from posting within development areas, My inability to post is somewhat frustrating.
One of the ROM's (DX 2.3.4 or 2.3.7) has several posts regarding virus alerts while dl'ing. Most of the posters pooh-pooh'ed it as a false postive, yet www_gizmoshub_com/droid-kungfu-an-android-virus-that-is-able-to-avoid-antivirus.htm# discusses an new Android trojan the virus industry is aware of.
And of course I can not post into the thread regarding this info...sigh
Patience young grasshopper. Your time for the blessed 'I can finally post in the development threads' will come.
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We have been aware of this but the ROM does not contain a virus whatsoever. No need to post about that in the thread. It'll cause more crap to get stirred and if that's the case ill pull the ROM so no one can use it.
It's perfectly fine and none of your sensitive information is being given out. I've dissected all our Team Hydra ROMs to make sure of this.
I've been coming to XDA for quite some time now, but recently its been getting out of hand. It has become extremely difficult to follow certain threads because the pointless arguments have drastically increased the amount of pages that I have to filter through. Even using the search function has been useless at times because quotes and responses are often directed towards a single comment. Sometimes it takes a few pages for these back and forth attacks to end.
I have reached the point where I don't flash nightly ROMs because I don't want to filter through twenty pages of arguments and insults. I simply move from stable release to stable release. At least with those I know there isn't as many bugs and I do not have to search for many solutions. In my opinion, this ruins one of the aspects of being a nexus owner. If anything has altered my experience with my nexus 4, it has been the few individuals that choose to insult everything and everyone in these threads. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we must all respect that, but that does not mean that anyone is entitled to insult another member in this forum because they disagree with your opinion or your preference in hardware or software.
I posted this thread in the nexus 4 general section because I cannot speak in regards to other forums. I enjoy the opportunities and the idea of XDA, but I feel we, the general members, stray from the main point of XDA. I know this is contradictory to my plea, but I honestly want to improve the XDA experience. If it must be locked I understand, but part of my philosophy is to find a solution if something is not working as it should. Thanks for the time and I hope that my plea makes some difference.
Good luck,
The Penguin
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I've been coming to XDA for quite some time now, but recently its been getting out of hand. It has become extremely difficult to follow certain threads because the pointless arguments have drastically increased the amount of pages that I have to filter through. Even using the search function has been useless at times because quotes and responses are often directed towards a single comment. Sometimes it takes a few pages for these back and forth attacks to end.
I have reached the point where I don't flash nightly ROMs because I don't want to filter through twenty pages of arguments and insults. I simply move from stable release to stable release. At least with those I know there isn't as many bugs and I do not have to search for many solutions. In my opinion, this ruins one of the aspects of being a nexus owner. If anything has altered my experience with my nexus 4, it has been the few individuals that choose to insult everything and everyone in these threads. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we must all respect that, but that does not mean that anyone is entitled to insult another member in this forum because they disagree with your opinion or your preference in hardware or software.
I posted this thread in the nexus 4 general section because I cannot speak in regards to other forums. I enjoy the opportunities and the idea of XDA, but I feel we, the general members, stray from the main point of XDA. I know this is contradictory to my plea, but I honestly want to improve the XDA experience. If it must be locked I understand, but part of my philosophy is to find a solution if something is not working as it should. Thanks for the time and I hope that my plea makes some difference.
Good luck,
The Penguin
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Agreed it's getting tiring see 5 responses to a simple question telling them to post in the right spot.
Nah.
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many have tried, many have failed..whatever xda tries there will always be someone else not reading the OP or just simply not doing the proper research before posting a question...as regarding arguments again if people reported instead of responding back then things would not get out of hand as the mods here are very responsive to reports specially if people flagged them up as important....
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I've been coming to XDA for quite some time now, but recently its been getting out of hand. It has become extremely difficult to follow certain threads because the pointless arguments have drastically increased the amount of pages that I have to filter through. Even using the search function has been useless at times because quotes and responses are often directed towards a single comment. Sometimes it takes a few pages for these back and forth attacks to end.
I have reached the point where I don't flash nightly ROMs because I don't want to filter through twenty pages of arguments and insults. I simply move from stable release to stable release. At least with those I know there isn't as many bugs and I do not have to search for many solutions. In my opinion, this ruins one of the aspects of being a nexus owner. If anything has altered my experience with my nexus 4, it has been the few individuals that choose to insult everything and everyone in these threads. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we must all respect that, but that does not mean that anyone is entitled to insult another member in this forum because they disagree with your opinion or your preference in hardware or software.
I posted this thread in the nexus 4 general section because I cannot speak in regards to other forums. I enjoy the opportunities and the idea of XDA, but I feel we, the general members, stray from the main point of XDA. I know this is contradictory to my plea, but I honestly want to improve the XDA experience. If it must be locked I understand, but part of my philosophy is to find a solution if something is not working as it should. Thanks for the time and I hope that my plea makes some difference.
Good luck,
The Penguin
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I fail to understand how flashing nightly has to do with reading the comments. Just flash and ignore the comments.
It is now necessary to browse through all those arguments to find the right fixes for the bugs in nightlies.
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OP I understand your thoughts, but honestly this is why the reporting system is there, if a thread has such posts Members should report it and violations of Forum Rules should without hesitation be reported. And yes there are times the not needed posts within threads are present, again pointing it out via the reporting system and or PM a Moderator can help in these events. Thank you for your thoughts and input...
XDA is forum for Custom ROMs, Discussion, Troubleshooting, etc.
From sometime Thread OP are creating a Telegram group to discuss bugs, troubleshooting and other things, and posting the Links in OP then what is meaning of creating threads on XDA. Why XDA mods are allowing these threads. My personal opinion is all the discussions regarding the ROM or Kernel should go on thread not on other platforms.
What do other XDA members think. Share your views here to stop these practice's.
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XDA is forum for Custom ROMs, Discussion, Troubleshooting, etc...........
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I understand what your referring to as I've seen this as well from time to time...
I had thought that there was an XDA Forum Rule(s) that restricts the sole use of the Telegram on the forum (I believe that there's more to this rule as well)
The choice of one of the following threads is probably your best bet for providing this type of feedback.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
Only a Moderator/Administrator (like @MikeChannon or @Darth for example) can really provide a clear outline/understanding for this rule.
Good Luck!
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There's this we put out not long ago, https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/telegram-chat-channels-forward-t3764521
Basically, no TG links should be anywhere on xda, except in post number one of a development thread, only. We realize devs may want some quick communication with members for some issues, and real time chat is obviously quick.
But no links to TG should be anywhere else on xda. :good:
Just hit report if you see links outside of the first post in a dev thread, and mods will handle it.
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There's this we put out not long ago,.........
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Thank you very much for your time with providing this valuable guidance!
Now I know more about the XDA Policy regarding this specific topic.
I am not a big fan of the Telegram being used as a primary means of support for a development and such that's posted on the Forum but, I felt that it could be an alternative tool in addition to active support on the said Developmental Thread posted.
Just my personal thoughts... :thumbup:
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.... I felt that it could be an alternative tool in addition to active support on the said Developmental Thread posted.....
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Exactly! One TG link in a dev thread op is supposed to be an optional way of communicating. Definitely never the only way. If it's found that a OP is only supporting, discussing or updating on Telegram, the thread would likely be closed if its discovered to be this way. :good:
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Exactly! One TG link in a dev thread op is supposed to be an optional way of communicating. Definitely never the only way. If it's found that a OP is only supporting, discussing or updating on Telegram, the thread would likely be closed if its discovered to be this way. :good:
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Thank you for clearing this up.
Sometimes some user post a bug or need troubleshooting, other user guide him/her to a Telegram group for that specific thing and do not discuss it inside thread. This should not be permitted.
I think there should be strict rule regarding what is permitted to discuss outside the thread.
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Thank you for clearing this up...........
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Just my opinion on this (and from what I understand regarding the XDA Rules)...
I believe that there can be certain circumstances with providing guidance via Telegram but, it shouldn't be the sole option for the member.
As a member myself, I actually don't use Telegram but, I have used it previously under certain circumstances that are very seldom if that.
As a developer myself, sometimes there's support/guidance that is preferred to be taken offline and, if needed, the results would be determined to be of value to other members within the thread or something that didn't.
I do personally prefer to keep most conversations on the thread as something beneficial to other members but, there has been occasions that I'd prefer to take it offline to prevent misunderstandings and confusion.
I hope that I had stated the above okay via text... :thumbup:
I did notice that this discussion was also continued elsewhere, and even responded to by @the_scotsman and @Weapon X as well...
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I understand the want for this but lets all really be honest. Development and support has been moved off XDA for years. A forum setup just doesnt really benefit the fast paced nature of currant development. Even back when I made roms for the old Galaxy S1 the team would do all development off site. Mostly because it was a faster response time. XDA has become a staging ground for roms while everything development and learning are done in chats. Like The most popular telegram or whats app and I hear some are even using discord (not sure about that last one as it seems out of place on a gaming messaging platform but hey)
As for the rule about the link only being in the OP. Well they have been getting around that by sending PM with the links or just flat out posting the links. No one reports it so no mods see it unless they stumble upon it.
If XDA wants to remain somewhere other then a place to post rom links thy might want to figure out that IM style messaging setup sooner or later.
Darth I can tell you that thererare many roms that are only updating on telegram and only offer support there as well. Everything posted here is just the "stable" versions if you know what I mean. Long has XDA been being used as a traffic grab by many.
Just my 2cents.
Is Custom ROM safe to install in smartphones? because most of the custom ROM's soft brick the phone.