Im planing on eventually getting a Touchstone for my Touchpad. I'm wondering, are there problems with charging the TouchPad on the Touchstone while running CM9? I would assume it just charges like normal since its a hardware feature. But does the software act up since it doesnt recognize HOW its being charged? I have read that people have had some issues like freezing up or the charger doesnt charge in CM9. What has been everyone's experience with it?
I used to have a lot of freezes and lock-ups when using the Touchstone -- primarily when taking the TP off of the TS. However, with any recent nightly it's been MUCH more trouble-free. I don't know that I've had another instance of this at least since we got official nightlies, and maybe even prior to that.
Right now, it's a little annoying that the Clock app always comes up when you start charging, but that's about it. I believe you can remove the Clock app to get around this, but I haven't tried yet. I don't know that I'd say it's worth what I paid for it, but it is pretty slick to just drop the TP onto the TS without fiddling with cables.
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I used to have a lot of freezes and lock-ups when using the Touchstone -- primarily when taking the TP off of the TS. However, with any recent nightly it's been MUCH more trouble-free. I don't know that I've had another instance of this at least since we got official nightlies, and maybe even prior to that.
Right now, it's a little annoying that the Clock app always comes up when you start charging, but that's about it. I believe you can remove the Clock app to get around this, but I haven't tried yet. I don't know that I'd say it's worth what I paid for it, but it is pretty slick to just drop the TP onto the TS without fiddling with cables.
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So you havent had any instances of leaving your TouchPad on the Touchstone and come back to find it drained of battery? Thats what I am mostly worried about since I have seen people post what happens to their TouchPad running CM9 and letting their battery die.
I've never had any issues using the touchstone to charge the TP when running CM7 or CM9. For me, it has always worked flawlessly.
I downloaded Dock Nothingness to prevent anything from coming up when you use the touchstone. Android interprets the touchstone as a dock charger so it can tell the difference between the two.
I also use dock nothingness.
I got a TouchStone before I put android on it. I have always left it on the TS to charge at least daily. I have yet to have a single issue with freezing or draining. I used it on webOS for a few weeks, very little on CM7, and CM9 since the very first alpha. Running alpha 2 now. Currently I have 311 hours of up time on the TP, I would guess 111 hours of that on the TS, based on what CPU spy is telling me. Nary a single issue here.
I don't know what (if at all) cases others are using. Because I got a TS I went with the HP official case. Had it almost as long as the TS, and leave it on the TP all the time. Pretty nice case IMO, soft touch, micro fiber cover cleans the screen, built in easel. IIRC, I read on some amazon reviews certain cases produced weird results on the TS.
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Thanks for the replies. When I do get the Touchstone, I will probably look into putting llama or tasker on my TouchPad so when it gets to about 20 percent, my device will shut down. Like I said, thats the only real worry I have with it due to what I've been reading. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to put it on there anyway.
I like how WebOS plays a sound to confirm that it's charging on the dock. Is there an easy way to do that in CM9? Other than that, I love it.
I did just load the nightly two days ago, and yesterday the battery was drained after sitting on the stone all day. It could just have been user error, though. I'll see tonight when I get home.
I have a Droid X2 and I know when it gets set on its dock it makes a sound. All devices are different though and I dont know if that option was built into CM9 or not.
BTW, no problem with the 4/16 nightly using the stone yesterday.
Just got a touchstone, can't wait to stop using that stupid cord
you guys think leaving it on the dock all the time will mess up the battery?
No.
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orangekid said:
Just got a touchstone, can't wait to stop using that stupid cord
you guys think leaving it on the dock all the time will mess up the battery?
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I was leaving mine pluggen in the wall almost constantly. Since I do the same with my phone, I didnt see a problem with it. But I went home one day and had some problems getting it to turn on. It finally did and since then, I've just been shutting it off when I dont use it. I'm a little paranoid about it not coming back on. lol. But leaving devices plugged in dont usually hurt the battery. I think they are pretty much made for that now a days.
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Ok...got my Christmas NC! I was given permission to play cook it? The last thing I cooked was a Blue Angel....if anyone remembers those??? Then life really started and I fell away from things. I have gotten a new phone since then, using stock Evo. too afraid to play with it. But I reviewed the instructions for the NC and auto-nooter and think I can handle it...
I'm trying to jump back into things (thus slow and behind on current lingo) and am excited about turning my NC into a tablet! My stupid question for the day is BN instructions says I have to fully charge my NC before using. I'm not really planning on using it....just cooking it! Do I really have to fully charge it? It has about 67% charge now.
I did try and research this and came across two responses:
1. You have to fully charge or the battery will have issues
2. You don't have to fully charge but should fully discharge and then recharge soon after.
Thoughts?
TIA!!!
Edit: Hmm...have to update signature....apparently I did cook our 8125s....hmmmROM date is 2006....it has been a while!!!
Prey tell, what kinds of issues arise if you don't let it charge fully? I don't remember letting it get to 100% per se, but have noticed no huge issues...
To the OP its really just up to you, obviously it wouldnt be good if it died in the middle of update/Nooter but its rated at 8hrs so 50%+ probably wouldnt hurt.
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Prey tell, what kinds of issues arise if you don't let it charge fully? I don't remember letting it get to 100% per se, but have noticed no huge issues...
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The start up guide says to wait till 100% before playing with it.
The only thing i could think of is perhaps the battery wouldnt be able to hold a charge/not last in the long run?
Even saying it sounds stupid to me, probably just B&N covering there end, but eh ive got no experience in batterys, i just know i normally let new devices charge while playing with them the first go havnt noticed them having issues.
The touch control on my nook is out of control. It came so sudden, nothing seems to trigger it. Is it a hardware problem or software problem? I don't want to return it as I'm in Korea now...
CWR flashed NF 0.6.7, just bought a day ago.
This happens when my NC is plugged in with the charger that came with it. I'm trying to get a replacement from B&N. Works fine with the charger that came with my Droid and Droid X. Being an Android smartphone user prior to the NC, I know that lots of people had this problem on their Android smartphones when they used cheap, generic third-party microUSB cables.
Or clean your screen. Lots of people are reporting funky screen behavior due to dirty screens.
Unplug it and turn down the brightness amf see how it goes.
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cleaning the screen seems helps, but it is so annoying if happens on the street... I can't always bring my microfiber cloth with me.
Why are you playing with this in the street?
Are you using a screen protector? If not it.should help.
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I had mine plugged in and updated to the newest softkeys, unplugging it, restarting it, and not giving softkeys superuser after restarting it stopped it for me.
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This happens when my NC is plugged in with the charger that came with it. I'm trying to get a replacement from B&N. Works fine with the charger that came with my Droid and Droid X. Being an Android smartphone user prior to the NC, I know that lots of people had this problem on their Android smartphones when they used cheap, generic third-party microUSB cables.
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Sorry for the double post but how did you get it to work? My backflip charger doesn't seem to work and only makes it wake.
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Sorry for the double post but how did you get it to work? My backflip charger doesn't seem to work and only makes it wake.
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if you use a non B&N charger, the NC won't register that it's charging, but it actually is. you can watch the battery percentage go up as time passes. it just charges more slowly.
What eyecrispy said.
I don't know how much juice the backflip's charger carries. My Droid and DX chargers carry lots of juice; lesser chargers can't keep up with their usage. Also, I've heard that the NC's OEM charger has two extra pins that let it fast charge. So, another cable may charge more slowly in comparison. I think the extra pins are also what causes the issue that eyecrispy described with the NC showing that it's charging only with the OEM charger. By the way, I think that only happens with the stock Nook software (rooted or not). With Nookie Froyo on internal memory, it shows charging with both the OEM and my DX's chargers.
I've noticed that battery meter being all over the place on this thing. Sometimes it doesn't reach 100% (stays at 99%). Sometimes after I've had it plugged in for a while the battery meter looks like it hasn't gained any additional charge, but a minute later it updates.
NookieFroyo registers the charging on screen
Arg.
So my otherwise adorable 1 year old somehow got his hands on my Captivate this weekend. When we finally caught him, he was chewing and slobbering on it pretty much right where the USB port is. After getting the phone back out of his grubby little hands, my wife and I took it completely apart and have had the whole works soaking in rice for a day or so.
When I put it back together, it booted just fine, and everything seems to be in working order. Except...when I plug a cable into the USB port, it doesn't charge, and it doesn't connect to my computer for storage mounting/flashing. This would be a bit of a problem.
I've checked for obstructions in the port itself and there don't seem to be any. I can get by for now without charging because my wife and I have the same phone (so we can periodically swap batteries...), but she's leaving town for two weeks at the end of this week. I really don't want to have to buy a new phone...so any ideas on fixing this would be greatly appreciated.
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Once the USB port is gone its gone, you would need to get an external wall charger for it and a wifi file browser.
there might be some moister in it yet, but generally the captivates had issues with the USB port just flaking out like that. Its a common problem for this phone, and also has happened to mine.
Or you can just pay ~35$ to get it fixed, look in my sig. They are good!
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Or you can just pay ~35$ to get it fixed, look in my sig. They are good!
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Hmm...I didn't even realize that was an option. I'll be looking into that. Thanks!
They fixed mine and it works great. I would also order a new cable from them for like 7 bucks. It is all well worth it!
interesting, didnt know about that one either
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It's apparently not *quite* as dead as I thought. It's still not recognizing my computer or telling me that it's charging...but apparently it is actually charging my battery. I plugged it into my computer just to see and left it. It never said that the phone is charging, but when I came back a few minutes later the battery meter had gone up, and it's still doing that fairly consistently.
That's at least good news for now. Even if the USB transfer is dead, I'm still OK as long as I can charge. As long as I don't have to use download mode...
That sounds like a bad cable, just buy one of those first, cheaper and easier to check!
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That sounds like a bad cable, just buy one of those first, cheaper and easier to check!
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It's nothing to do with the cable. We have four USB cables and two different car chargers. It's the same thing with all of them, and they all work perfectly on my wife's phone.
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My first Captivate had a USB port go bad.. I tried 10 different cables and decided for some reason it was a ROM issue and got into download mode.. well let's just say I was buying another Captivate the next day.. lol
I did resurrect it by buying a Captivate with a broken screen on Ebay cheap. Combined the two and it's actually a later production and the GPS works good compared to hardly at all before. M yold screen and new guts.. Now I have a spare phone to try new Roms on without messing up my daily driver.. (Dark Knight 4 atm)
I see broke screen Captivates for $40-80 on Ebay regularly..
My wife also has a captivate with a dead USB port. So I went on amazon and searched for captivate batteries and external charger and found a package that came with 2 extended life batteries and the wall charger that charges one separatly from the phone while you use the other in the phine . Its made by Laza wireless and both batteries and charger was 15.99 and shipped free. Got it in two days and works great and was a whole lot cheaper than a phone.
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Sorry to resurrect such an old thread but, I have had the same problem for months also caused by a toddler sucking on the phone and cables. I swap batteries daily. stock/1800/2430 mah. I am curious if anyone knows of a wireless charging option. I know my wii batteries are inductive and it is just the new battery and charger on a stock remote. is there an inductive charger and battery available for cappy? is wireless charging dangerous to the phone if it wasnt designed with it in mind? for that matter is anything available for anyother phones besides the lumia 920 and maybe nexus I think?
cheapest, best option is to get the USB port repaired by mobiletechvideos.com, imho.
I know of no induction solution for captivate that works without a good usb port.
I figured and also thought the Cappy wouldn't be a device supported by a new battery developer when there is so many newer ones out.
Thx
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I bought my son-in-law a 32gb touchpad in April of this year. He has run almost exclusively on Android. He powered it off last week, and now he can not power it back on. He's tried every suggestion posted. I'm seeing more thraeds about people in the same boat. Is it just poor quality or is it something else?
The battery is likely dead. They have a problem with charging when dead. Plug it in, hold the power button, and press the home button in rapid succession 15 times. Should boot to a charging animation. Let it charge for a while.
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He's tried that. Does nothing.
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He's tried that. Does nothing.
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Do you have a touchstone, if so leave it on that it is the only thing that has worked for me .
See this article by Reverend Kyle http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/146-hp-touchpad-charging-issues-solution .
I hope this helps.
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Do you have a touchstone, if so leave it on that it is the only thing that has worked for me .
See this article by Reverend Kyle http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/146-hp-touchpad-charging-issues-solution .
I hope this helps.
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Also, try charging through the USB on a computer for a while... the idea is anything to trickle charge it before it tries to boot up and has no power. Some people let it charge for a min, unplug it, let it sit, and plug it in again, and do it all over.
It will come on eventually...
He's tried all of these. He even opened it up and disconnected/reconnected the battery. He's currently letting it drain completely and try again. It's been almost a week now.
I can't say its Android persay but how your device handles Android. I have 3 TouchPads in my home and frequently they run out of battery and have never had an issue charging. I service about 10 others that belong to friends and not of those has that issue. Its kinda like the ones with wifi and audio issues, the ones with issues almost always have them no matter what version of Android they run. My suggestion, hopefully once you get it running buy a Touchstone and use only that to charge
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He has a touchstone and that's how he usually charges. I boot back and forth between android and webos, mostly on webos. He's had his touchpad since May 4, 2012, just out of warranty.
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He has a touchstone and that's how he usually charges. I boot back and forth between android and webos, mostly on webos. He's had his touchpad since May 4, 2012, just out of warranty.
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Then you simply have one of those that won't tolerate being completely drained I guess. Getting it back up and going is hit and miss, no concrete steps since each one with this hardware issue is different
Good luck
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He has a touchstone and that's how he usually charges. I boot back and forth between android and webos, mostly on webos. He's had his touchpad since May 4, 2012, just out of warranty.
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How long has he left it to charge? and does he have a micro usb cable like for you phone?
He's been alternating between AC, USB trickle, and touchstone for about a week now. Yes he's has a micro USB cable.
I think I'm going to let my battery die and see if I can bring it back.
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I think I'm going to let my battery die and see if I can bring it back.
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well, I was able to be active on both webOS and cm9 down to 4%, then it went black. Yes, I got the warnings. So I left it alone for about 10 minutes, then placed on the touchstone and, wala! It started charging. No trickle charge, no a.c charger, just the touchstone. I was at 100% this morning.
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well, I was able to be active on both webOS and cm9 down to 4%, then it went black. Yes, I got the warnings. So I left it alone for about 10 minutes, then placed on the touchstone and, wala! It started charging. No trickle charge, no a.c charger, just the touchstone. I was at 100% this morning.
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Which is exactly what I suggested in post #4 of this thread as it is the only thing that has worked for me., glad it works for you also. Now you too can also rest easy knowing this solution works for you also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30258802&postcount=4
This was a test I performed on my touchpad. My son-in-law's is still unresponsive.
After returning 4 docks with a date of 2013.10 I finally received a dock with the date of 2013.11. Should I be happy or pissed that I didn't receive a dock dated 2013.12? I heard the November docks fixed the hinge problem but there might be a battery problem with this version. Can anyone confirm this or if there are other problems? I'm going to do extensive testing in the mean time. Thanks.
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I'd be surprised if there were 2013.12 dock out there.
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I'd be surprised if there were 2013.12 dock out there.
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Before ASUS starting denying that the 2013.09 and 2013.10 builds were defective, a few people claimed that ASUS confirmed those builds were defective and that the 2013.11 and 2013.12 builds fixed the problem. I haven't heard anyone receiving 2013.12 so i'm not sure they exist either.
But anyway, I fully charged the tablet and dock to 100% each and now I'm going to see if there are any problems as the battery drains. Interestingly it seems that both the tablet and dock are draining at the same time. Currently the tablet is at 96% and the dock is at 98%. I don't remember it doing that with the orginal dock. The charge light on the tablet used to be on as if the dock was charging the tablet. There are no lights currently on but it may be too soon for any conclusions.
Are both the tablet and the dock updated to the newest available firmware?
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So how is the dock connection to the tablet? Does it feel like there is less play? Any Disconnects? Where did you purchase it?
(Amazon just put the dock back on "Defect/Hold".)
Thanks for posting your results.
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So how is the dock connection to the tablet? Does it feel like there is less play? Any Disconnects? Where did you purchase it?
(Amazon just put the dock back on "Defect/Hold".)
Thanks for posting your results.
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Yes the first thing I did was update the firmware. I bought the dock from Amazon. Here is my review on Amazon with everything I went through with returns: Review
The connection feels much tighter. I can't make it disconnect by adjusting the tablet angle. I inserted an SD card in the tablet for an easy test with disconnects because it prepares the card whenever you insert it or when it reconnects. The only time I notice the SD card re-preparing is when the tablet is in the closed position and then opened.
As for the battery issue: I jumped the gun when I said the tablet and dock depleted at the same time. The dock depleted to 98% then stopped. The tablet continued to deplete up to around 60% (ish) at that point the charging light went on the tablet and the dock started to charge the tablet. Tablet made it up to about 88% as the dock completely drained to point where I could not use it anymore. Disconnecting the dock and reconnecting it for some reason returned 7% but still continued to deplete.
This sounds like a software issue that a firmware update could fix. Someone else said that disconnecting and reconnecting the dock when the dock starts to charge the tablet will allow the tablet to drain further before the dock kicks in.
What needs to happen is the tablet needs to provide power to the keyboard when it is drained or the dock needs to stop charging the tablet when it is low on power, allowing the dock to still be usable.
Battery Issue: Wow step forward / step back. The dock is now just mostly useless (assuming it drains after the first few hours of use).
Thanks for the update.
I'm surprised the dock charges any differently between the older and the 2013.11 versions. Hopefully, they can fix this one in the firmware. It might be worth an E-Mail or call to Asus to see how they want to explain this one.
I have 2013.11 edition, I bought tablet from local shop (Czech Republic) 2 weeks ago. My dock have only one problem, in specific angel keyboard doesn't work.. so I have to "open it" more / less. (I will try to change keyboard) But other things seems OK
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Battery Issue: Wow step forward / step back. The dock is now just mostly useless (assuming it drains after the first few hours of use).
Thanks for the update.
I'm surprised the dock charges any differently between the older and the 2013.11 versions. Hopefully, they can fix this one in the firmware. It might be worth an E-Mail or call to Asus to see how they want to explain this one.
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I'm not 100% sure it did. Maybe since we had to always reconnect the dock with the 2013.10 version we never noticed it since undocking the tablet allows the tablet to drain a little further. Unless the dock/tablet was completely still I was never able to go a whole batter cycle with the old dock without it disconnecting.
I'll let someone else contact ASUS. I'm tired of their terrible customer service. Especially since they lied to me about the defective dock.
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I'm not 100% sure it did. Maybe since we had to always reconnect the dock with the 2013.10 version we never noticed it since undocking the tablet allows the tablet to drain a little further. Unless the dock/tablet was completely still I was never able to go a whole batter cycle with the old dock without it disconnecting.
I'll let someone else contact ASUS. I'm tired of their terrible customer service. Especially since they lied to me about the defective dock.
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I have filled in their customer service feedback with poor all over the ratings. Let's see if I hear back from them. I doubt it. I did laugh at their claim that they are aiming to become the best customer focussed company in the business
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I have filled in their customer service feedback with poor all over the ratings. Let's see if I hear back from them. I doubt it. I did laugh at their claim that they are aiming to become the best customer focussed company in the business
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Well saying they're "aiming" does imply they're not even close yet, doesn't it? At least that's honest! LOL
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I might consider returning both the tablet and dock and get a Dell venue 11. I'm very disappointed in the build quality and customer support from Asus. I started noticing flickering on the screen and black boxes in Chrome as well. It hasn't been as bad as what some other users have experienced but it was enough to really piss me off.
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OK very interesting update. The first time, when both dock and tablet were at 100%, the dock began to charge the tablet once it reached about 70%. Then when the dock was depleated, the keyboad did not work anymore. I also said when I undocked it and reconnected the keyboard had 7% left for some reason and continued to work. I just assumed it would stop working again as it drained. So I charged it all back up and ran the tablet for a little last night. Reached 70%, dock started charging the tablet and after the dock depleated to about 75%, I shut off the tablet for the night. I did not however plug it in. I noticed the dock was still charging the tablet so I assumed he dock would be dead the next morning. I didn't turn on the tablet untill now, (doing a ton of research at work on the dell venue.) I turned on the tablet and noticed the dock was at 0% BUT it is still working. I'm typing all of this right now using the dock and its at 0%. I don't know why it stoped working when it reached 0 yesterday but this is great news.
My new experiment will be to start all over again at 100%,, let the dock deplete, see if it stops working again and if it does, undock and redock to see if it continues to work. If not maybe just a reset will let it work again at 0%. If this is the case then I would consider the tablet not defective with the 2013.11 batch. The black squares I only noticed once in Chrome. I'm going to monitor the flickering. These issues have nothing to do with the dock.
I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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Chrome sucks on my Nexus 5 as well. It's an all round bad browser on Android. Shame.
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Chrome sucks on my Nexus 5 as well. It's an all round bad browser on Android. Shame.
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I've got the flickering and black boxes in chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, so I don't think that issue is the transformers fault.
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Yeah it is a shame. I like the fact that the bookmarks sycs across all my devices, Home, work, phone, tablet. But it does seem a little buggy on my tablets. I'm glad those issues are not specific to the TF701.
Unless I find any other major problem between now and the end of the month, I guess i'm not going to return this unit for a different tablet. I'll finally be able to root this sucker and install your ROM sbdags. BTW, thanks for that. This is the longest I had an android device, since my first android phone, that I didn't root. Didn't want to mess with anything in case I had to return it.
So it is confirmed, if the dock stops working after its battery is depleted all you have to do is undock it once and reconnect and it should continue to work.
Hi Guys,
some of these problems are already discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530069
Some people (including me) confirm the black squares in Chrome disappear after FW update or hard reset.
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So it is confirmed, if the dock stops working after its battery is depleted all you have to do is undock it once and reconnect and it should continue to work.
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Thanks for the update. It doesn't seem quite right though - when the dock battery depletes you should still be able to type without undocking/redocking, in my mind at least. Can owners of previous Transformers (TF101, TF300, TF700) confirm how their docks behave when the dock battery depletes?
Doesn't the dock need power to run?
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Thanks for the update. It doesn't seem quite right though - when the dock battery depletes you should still be able to type without undocking/redocking, in my mind at least. Can owners of previous Transformers (TF101, TF300, TF700) confirm how their docks behave when the dock battery depletes?
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