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So a few days ago we heard about 902 being potentially soak tested and since then deafening silence. Anyone know what's going on with the latest update not getting pushed out?
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SamuriHL,
Unfortunately I noticed in a posting on the Motorola Forums,
Matt says it is all a rumor:
"What the heck are you talking about? Why would we do this?
Guys, this is all just rumor. You know the soak tests have credibility when they post my confidential emails on the tech sites, right?"
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/40cc13fd3f?post=40cc13fd3f&start=91
So, I think this was all a rumor started by DL - which stinks - really looking forward to an update - at least an official version of .901 even if it was called .902.
Appreciate the info. I was travelling for work last week so I thought I might have missed something. Good to know. But it does seem odd there's no update yet.
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I agree. They could be working on something but maybe do not have enough together to call it an "update" that will be pushed to "testers". Who really knows with Motorola and VZW anymore - would be nice to know whether they are truly standing behind the .901 update they accidentally pushed out to some (will support it and upgrade it to the next version whenever another update does come out) .
Definitely a valid question. I've had next to 0 problems with the 901 rom myself. I was on vacation in a 4G area for a week....battery rocked, stable communication. I was travelling for work last week and in 4G for 4 days. Same experience. If they have something better, great, but, I AM happy with the Bionic right now. Of course, I'd love to see ICS on it. I've been loving ICS on my Xoom. But I don't expect we'll see an ICS update for the Bionic before May or June IMO.
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Definitely a valid question. I've had next to 0 problems with the 901 rom myself. I was on vacation in a 4G area for a week....battery rocked, stable communication. I was travelling for work last week and in 4G for 4 days. Same experience. If they have something better, great, but, I AM happy with the Bionic right now. Of course, I'd love to see ICS on it. I've been loving ICS on my Xoom. But I don't expect we'll see an ICS update for the Bionic before May or June IMO.
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Yes, but remember that MOTO/VZW NEVER released that OTA to the general public.
Most people with a Bionic are still suffering with that first crappy OTA that was pushed.
Post that push, the silence has definitely been deafening.
RMD
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Yes, but remember that MOTO/VZW NEVER released that OTA to the general public.
Most people with a Bionic are still suffering with that first crappy OTA that was pushed.
Post that push, the silence has definitely been deafening.
RMD
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Yup, I completely agree. That's why I'm confused that there hasn't been an update by now. 901 got accidentally pushed to a bunch of users OTA and that's how a lot of us got it. One would think, since the majority of the feedback from those who have it has been overwhelmingly positive, that they'd want to get that update out there. Even if it's not perfect, it's miles better than the 5.5.893 release that was pushed out. VZW needs to work on optimizing their testing procedures IMO. This is exactly why I fear we won't see an ICS update until May or June or even possibly later. Moto could finish it by March, but, if it has to go through 8+ weeks of VZW testing before they start to push it out, well, that's not good.
just got off with motorola chat support:
brett: i have heard conflicting reports regarding bionic software version 5.5.893, 5.9.901 and 5.9.902...which is the latest, official version to be running
Andrew: The one with the 901 on it, there's no 902.
brett: 5.9.901 is the latest official version
Andrew: Yes, that is correct.
brett: i have 5.5.893 and when i check for updates it states there are none available
Andrew: The 901 is still in the process. Not yet complete. Can you give me your phone number we will keep you posted if we have all the information in the system.
brett: so 901 is the latest official version but has not been released to the public officially?
brett: so i am correct and up to date in having 5.5.893 installed?
Andrew: Yes, you have the up to date software, I will check when will be the full deployment of the 901 so that we can let you know, also give me the MEID# of the phone.
brett: you will check now and let me know now?
Andrew: I will need to forward the report of yours, sorry I don't have the information here in the system, we will check back with you about it, is this your good email address here as well?
Good deflection. Never give anything to the man.
On Topic: Good news for people who updated to .901. Your probably not off the upgrade path!
I wasn't worried. I just want to know when the darn thing's going to be released officially.
so even though 901 is still the official build they are testing, maybe the 901 that they will release will not be the same as what was discovered via the cheesecake servers. with all this time to test and modify, features may have been added or removed. maybe the features of the "902" update will be merged with the 901 that is currently in circulation. those on 901 now may very well have to downgrade to 5.5.893 to accept the new and improved 901!
also having shown that 901 is still the current official build in testing, it is interesting to note that Blur_Version.5.9.901.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip has been found on the cheesecake servers, but fails to install once downloaded - whether you are on 893 or 901. the filename suggests an update form 901 not going to 901 based on how these update files are named.
The version of 901 I'm using did NOT come from the cheesecake server. It was captured from an ota push.
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.901 isn't a cheesecake update I was accidentally pushed OTA.
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it is interesting to note that Blur_Version.5.9.901.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip has been found on the cheesecake servers
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Source? The rest of us got it from an OTA that was shared around.
source: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16519-proof-59902-exists-invalid-update-file/
look at post #12 by connor3485 for the mediafire link to the Blur_Version.5.5.901.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip file.
and i stand corrected, 901 was in fact an accidental OTA push to some and not a cheesecake find - i am wrong in stating it was "cheesecaked"....but then how are they still "testing" 901? it was accidentally pushed a while ago...but still, could modifications still be made to it, so much that the version that might be eventually released "officially", be different from the version that was accidentally pushed?
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source: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16519-proof-59902-exists-invalid-update-file/
look at post #12 by connor3485 for the mediafire link to the Blur_Version.5.5.901.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip file.
and i stand corrected, 901 was in fact an accidental OTA push to some and not a cheesecake find - i am wrong in stating it was "cheesecaked"....but then how are they still "testing" 901? it was accidentally pushed a while ago...but still, could modifications still be made to it, so much that the version that might be eventually released "officially", be different from the version that was accidentally pushed?
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Moto has stated *from what I've read* that .901 will be the official update. It was just accidentally leaked before it was suppose to be released OTA.
Soak Test email invitation!
I was sent an email today asking me if I wanted to be a part of the Droid Bionic Soak Test, 2/5/2012. Part of the questionnaire asks if you have modified your phone/rooted it and you have to agree to return it back to stock in order to participate. I'm traveling this week and will not be able to mess with my phone to return it to stock, so I decided not to participate. Does anyone know if If I should have just told them that I would revert back to stock and try the update anyways? I wish I could have participated.
Hope you guys get a chance!
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So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
I highly doubt that the D3 will ever see an official ICS update. We were lucky to get .906 to be honest. The closest thing we will get is CM9 and AOKP. But hey, there's always that little glimmer of chance though.
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So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
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I think we will get it... Probably not until December or something crazy like that. They probably won't make an announcement until July or Aug as to which phones will receive it.
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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But do those devices have heavy bloatware and a heavy custom UI like MotoBlur running on them? These are things that you have to take into consideration. There's still hope for an official ICS update, but I just don't see it happening.
Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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I'm not talking about custom roms like CM9 or AOKP. I am talking about a stock ICS rom from Motorola and Verizon for the D3. An official update. I am simply stating that since the D3 has no 4G LTE and only 512 mb of ram, Verizon and Motorola most likely won't bother updating it to ICS. Also, being that it has 512 mb of ram, ICS, along with all of Verizon's bloat and Motorola's custom UI, won't run as smoothly as a custom rom.
Isn't there a internal moto dev version of ics that supposedly ran beautifully? thought I remembered reading about that a while ago.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
Dear Vytautas,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do understand that you are excited with the latest Android Ice Cream Sandwich update and we are very sorry for the inconvenience. However, at this time, we do not have any further details, yet, if the Droid 3 will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich.
As soon as we have the information, it will be shared to all users. Do not worry, your concern has already been noted.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Brian
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I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
I've got a feeling Moto will be working on D3/Milestone3/XT883 or whatever its called and possibly release the files for ours or similar devices, but the sticking point will be Verizon.
Shouldn't matter if the other carriers/similar devices get ICS, Id guess porting what we'd need wouldn't be a problem then
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
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An HTC Droid Incredible 2 update has already been announced, so it's not that. (The DInc 2 has 768 MB of RAM; perhaps that is enough to make a difference? I doubt it, though.)
It's probably 50/50. Clearly Moto will focus on getting the Razrs, Bionic and Droid 4 updated before they move on to other phones. The D3 seems a natural upgrade - unlike the X2, it has the same processor as those other phones; it's basically a Bionic with a keyboard, no LTE, "world phone" capability and half the RAM. Is that enough to make it a difficult upgrade? I guess we'll know when we know.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
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Being the downer I am, I feel like he meant to say "SHUT UP ALREADY! We know you want ICS! We just like watching you all squirm!"
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So, today I got bored and decided to pick Moto's brains a bit about this topic. (Yes, this is what I did with my free time today.)
I got slightly off topic myself do to his ignorance, but in the end it went well I'd say... You can pretty much skip to the last 5 or so lines.
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Rez: Hi, my name is Rez. How may I help you?
Me: I just have a question about the Droid 3 getting Andorid 4.0. I see that older devices (from other companies) with less powerful internals are scheduled to receive an ICS update. Is it likely that the D3 will receive 4.0?
Rez: That's a good question, Redsox985. Let me check that out for you.
Me: Thanks.
Rez: Thank you for waiting, Redsox985.
Rez: I can see that the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. We will keep you posted thru our website for updates.
Rez: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Me: What does "evaluation and planning" mean? Can you say if it'll happen or not based on this?
Rez: We are waiting for information about the update, Redsox985. It is pending. It should pushed thru since we send updates to most of the Motorola
smartphones from time to time.
Me: Also, I know that independent developers have made a handful of ROMs built from source that run smoothly on the D3. Is it a matter of if the phone can run ICS or is its age an issue?
Rez: Are you referring to a different software for Droid 3 or get the phone rooted, is that what you mean?
Me: Yes, by rooting, you can flash independently built ICS rom's from android source. They run on the phone, but some issues exist between the gingerbread kernel (locked boot loader) and ICS features like hardware acceleration, video camera, and flash.
Me: Adobe flash that is.
Rez: The problem later is the phone will not be able to receive updates once the phone is rooted.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored back to stock software with an SBF.
Rez: It can be unrooted but the updates will not work anymore.
Me: I just did it. I was running 5.6.890 rooted with an open source ICS rom. The 5.7.906 update had started to be pushed OTA. I ran RSD Lite and restored the phone to box stock 5.6.890. I then accepted and installed the OTA. Then re-rooted it.
Rez: It may be working for now but we don't the after-effect of it. I have that case earlier that his phone was rooted before. After trying to unroot it, the phone will not boot up. He's trying to update the phone but it cannot be updated anymore since the phone is not on. suggested to send it to our repair center but I set an expectation to him that it will be considered to be out of warranty already.
Me: RSD Lite will flash all partitions of the phone (radio, system, etc.) back to box stock as if it was purchased new.
Rez: That's a good experiment, Redsox985. How do you want me to help you with that?
Me: It's not an experiment. It works. I just used it. It unrooted my phone and flashed all partitions allowing me to accept the latest OTA.
Me: If I'm able to return to the OTA path, then how could receiving an ICS update (if one even comes) be any different?
Rez: ICS has not yet been announced, we don't have the list of enhancements yet what are included on the ICS. We don't have the information also what will not work once the ICS is installed on the phone that was rooted. We will keep you posted thru our website at www.motorola com for updates.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored to stock software to the point where an OTA will not be able to detect anything different. It's possible to flash box stock software to the phone. It rewrites all partitions.
Rez: I see. That's a good idea.
Me: So, can you speak on the likelihood of the D3 receiving official ICS? It can run it, it's been done. Why won't Moto even consider it?
Rez: We are following what's being updated to us. As I mentioned earlier the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. If you have successfully done it by rooting, it's not from us.
Me: I know it's not official, I'm just wondering why it hasn't been done being that it's possible.
Rez: Because we are working on updates thoroughly. We don't want that we just send out updates with glitches.
Me: So, ICS for the D3 is being worked on?
Rez: Yes. That's part of evaluation.
Me: But it's possible that the update will just be killed internally before it ever is released?
Rez: I cant say that unless it happens. I don't want to give any false hopes. Because we are also waiting for that update.
Me: Can you estimate the D3's chances of receiving ICS?
Rez: 90 per cent it will receive it.
Me: Wow. I'm impressed. Thanks.
Me: Is that a hopeful or conservative estimate?
Rez: Hopeful.
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Endoroid said:
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Undoubtedly. But he has the internal update info I don't. So I dealt with his stupidity and kept pressing.
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Saw that. Stoked!
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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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I came from the world of AT&T and Samsung. I will be stoked when we actually get it. Until then, I will assume "Early Q3 of this year" means late Q3 of next year, lol.
I'm currently using gummy ics and it works perfectly. I think I can manage a little while longer without an "official" build including all of Verizon's bloat.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
I did notice the lack of hardware acceleration when trying to use chrome beta, but I have yet to experience data drops on both 3g and 4g.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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Im Looking forward to the Lapdock Update the most. It would be nice to gain some speed on this little bad boy.
Won't the next Android version be announced by then? That would kinda be a downer considering we're still waiting for ICS. To me it doesn't matter that much at this point because there are already Gingerbread roms out there with an ICS theme. Not exactly like the real thing but for me it's good enough, heh.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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I like how they call it zumocast on the bionic but motocast on some of their other devices. I wouldn't consider it bloat though. Every phone should come with an app like that. It's pretty useful.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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Your right. The threads should be merged but to be fair mine was made before the other one, Although just by a few minutes so its no ones fault. The other op probably didnt see this one because of the small window frame.
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As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Owned, son!
Sorry I couldn't resist. But still, I've been following the wait on ICS since I got my bionic back in October, and ICS will be welcome when it finally gets here. Id follow cheesecake myself but I hate stock blur with a passion, so I follow XDA.
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If we do not get ICS soon, i would not be surprised if the Bionic "fell through the cracks".
You should be surprised, since engineering builds are already being spread around. Doesn't take *too much* more than getting approval and changing the signatures to make it a user build.
Honestly all we need is 1 leak with a good kernel and we can switch over to CM9 through Bootstrap or Safestrap into CM9 and have a working camera/video and hardware acceleration.
And another one leaks. Same deal as 242...Security doesn't allow downgrade to 905 yada blah blah. This is getting old now. We've been on ics leaks since June and no ota in sight. House of Bionic has support for 244 for those who've already jumped to 235+. Those on 232 should continue to wait. At this point those on 232 are pretty much getting as much use out of it as they did 905. Maybe even more so. Lol.
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I think at this rate those of us on the Bionic will see Key Lime Pie out on the Nexus before we see ICS.
It's certainly getting to that point. If this build gets rejected then it's going to be October before we have any hope of seeing ota. Ugh!
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I am not that certain the Bionic will see ICS officially. Maybe there will declare it at EOL and quit.
Reason #2 why I will never, never, never buy another Moto device of any sort. This is totally absurd.
Has nothing to do with Moto. This is 100% on VZW. Moto has put out _9_ builds that VZW has rejected. *9*! That's unheard of. The ONLY issue left to fix is the stupid flash thing which NO moto ICS build works properly with. It's ridiculous but it's not Moto's fault.
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Reason #2 why I will never, never, never buy another Moto device of any sort. This is totally absurd.
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In the future, Motorola will be offering developer editions of their phones so that is my reason for continuing to remain with them, along with the quality of build typically being superior to the other companies (I say typical, as in not being 100% but for the most part).
With them releasing developer editions, this shouldn't be a problem anymore because it basically will turn all of their future devices into nexus's as far as being able to develop for.
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In the future, Motorola will be offering developer editions of their phones so that is my reason for continuing to remain with them, along with the quality of build typically being superior to the other companies (I say typical, as in not being 100% but for the most part).
With them releasing developer editions, this shouldn't be a problem anymore because it basically will turn all of their future devices into nexus's as far as being able to develop for.
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And let's not forget the most important aspect. Right in the middle of our ICS update being developed, Google went in and cleaned house at Moto. You can't deny that Moto is going to be a very different company moving forward with Google now owning them and installing an ex-Google ceo as the new Moto ceo. We're already starting to see massive changes and I for one think it's going to get a lot better. I'm on board with a new dev device from Moto as soon as they release the one I want. Samsung lost that bet with me back in July. The Samsung unicorn never materialized. Moto already has the devices up on the unlock page so we're not talking unicorns here. The RAZR M dev phone is up for preorder and I think coming this week. So, let's forget about the old Moto run by an idiot and focus on what direction Google is pointing the ship now.
I agree. I watched their press conference on YouTube and they definitely seemed like a new company. They specifically mentioned people wanting to tinker with their phones and changing things. It's been no secret that google follows the development community, especially considering some of the newer features of android were originally developed by the root community back in the old days of android (2009-2010).
On a side note, did anyone read about how nobody who works at apple actually uses SIRI (at least none of their developers). I found it amusing since I've seen the apple fanboys brag about SIRI. I think google and Android manufacturers should look into suing apple over some of the things they took from Android, such as voice search and folders. If you ask a fanboy, I'm sure they would tell you that android stole those from apple as well, even if we did have them first.
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On a side note, did anyone read about how nobody who works at apple actually uses SIRI (at least none of their developers). I found it amusing since I've seen the apple fanboys brag about SIRI. I think google and Android manufacturers should look into suing apple over some of the things they took from Android, such as voice search and folders. If you ask a fanboy, I'm sure they would tell you that android stole those from apple as well, even if we did have them first.
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Share a link... I'd love to read about that bit of news.
A curiosity about this release... Some folks (including myself) found out that tethering was borked, even with FoxFi, after a certain leak release version. I'm not sure which one but I know tethering wasn't working for me on .232 and it doesn't work on my install of Liquid ICS 1.5 ROM, but I started from scratch and put .223 back into my non-safe side and FoxFi worked. Any idea if .244 still blocks tethering?
The obvious answer would be "yes" if we follow the logic that some version after .223 blocked it, but I just wanted to make sure
FoxFi hasn't stopped working for me in any of the builds. Still kicking for me in 244, as well.
Its in the article on USA today about a former executive talking about the siri commercials detracting from the product. I believe it made other news outlets also. I'll see if I can find a link.
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Vnvjeep said:
Share a link... I'd love to read about that bit of news.
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Here is a link. The part about apple employees not using it is near the end.
http://mashable.com/2012/09/10/ex-apple-exec-pull-siri-ads/
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.244 change log
-the boring 2 has been changed to an awesome 4
-new "chiwawa barking dog" default ringtone
-phone now actually taste like a ice cream sandwich
-leaves breath minty fresh
ROFLMAO! That about sums it up.
Its VZW causing the delay
SamuriHL said:
Has nothing to do with Moto. This is 100% on VZW. Moto has put out _9_ builds that VZW has rejected. *9*! That's unheard of. The ONLY issue left to fix is the stupid flash thing which NO moto ICS build works properly with. It's ridiculous but it's not Moto's fault.
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I agree, this is 100% VZW. My Motorola Xoom tablet received Android 4.1 back in July, because they did not have to go through VZW to release to the field. The XOOM and Bioinc run the exact same processor.
LMDude said:
I agree, this is 100% VZW. My Motorola Xoom tablet received Android 4.1 back in July, because they did not have to go through VZW to release to the field. The XOOM and Bioinc run the exact same processor.
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Actually they don't. The Bionic uses an OMAP 4400. Nonetheless, VZW is what's holding up the OTA. Moto has done everything they can do to try to please them. I mean, how do you fix a problem with a plugin that's never going to get another update by the people who made it? It's clear that Adobe would have to fix it on their end not on Moto's. So it's just stupid.
SamuriHL said:
Actually they don't. The Bionic uses an OMAP 4400. Nonetheless, VZW is what's holding up the OTA. Moto has done everything they can do to try to please them. I mean, how do you fix a problem with a plugin that's never going to get another update by the people who made it? It's clear that Adobe would have to fix it on their end not on Moto's. So it's just stupid.
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I value your opinion SamuriHL so let me ask you this. Is VZW's delay why you have chosen to go down the can never go back path (.235-.244)? I've been sitting idle at .232 and I'm ready to move on. Now with the news that we will get JB OTA at some point should I just wait another month for the ICS OTA or do what you have done down the leaked path. Do you think we'll get JB leaks too? I don't mind making the jump but I have to live with this phone for at least another 14 months and honestly i don't think I'll need to upgrade when the time comes. I'm pretty darn content with the Bionic. I just don't want to go down this road to end up at a dead end. Can we keep going forward?
zoompastu said:
I value your opinion SamuriHL so let me ask you this. Is VZW's delay why you have chosen to go down the can never go back path (.235-.244)? I've been sitting idle at .232 and I'm ready to move on. Now with the news that we will get JB OTA at some point should I just wait another month for the ICS OTA or do what you have done down the leaked path. Do you think we'll get JB leaks too? I don't mind making the jump but I have to live with this phone for at least another 14 months and honestly i don't think I'll need to upgrade when the time comes. I'm pretty darn content with the Bionic. I just don't want to go down this road to end up at a dead end. Can we keep going forward?
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I can't give you any guarantees. Please understand that point as it's VERY important to what I say next.
I chose to originally go to the 235+ path because at the time I THOUGHT I was within a couple weeks of getting a new Samsung S3 Developer phone (what I now call the Samsung unicorn). However, I also wrote the House of Bionic and knew that I could keep moving forward as new leaks came out. Little did I know there'd be so many to test my code on. LOL! The HoB is pretty rock solid at this point....literally being "tested" by hundreds of users. But the warning about 235+ holds...we can't go back to any builds pre-235. That includes 905 which is a very big deal since all ICS updates ONLY update 905. The HoB will flash what parts of 905 it can (system, preinstall, webtop) and then the boot img of the update you're trying to install which allows us to move forward. And in fact allows us to move down, as well. Just no further down than 235. I bring that up for a reason. A lot of us have gone to 244 and we like it. A lot. But should VZW decide to OTA 242, as an example, those of us that have moved forward would be screwed without the ability to move back to 242 to get back on the OTA path. The HoB can do that for us. So I'm not personally concerned with my own phone getting back to the OTA path. Once we get a new ICS FXZ we'll be fine regardless. My warnings are for people that haven't been as blessed as I have to learn from some of the best people in our community. I like to make sure that others have options. Which is why I recommend the majority of people stick with 232. Unless you know the risks, and understand what the process does to your phone to move from one update to another (hint...it involves soft bricking until the update you're trying to install is successfully applied....not for the faint of heart since there's no FXZ safety net to fall back on should something go wrong), then 232 is the "safest" place to be. It gives you ICS but gives you the option of FXZ'ing back to 905 and taking the OTA should you need to go that route. Those on 235+ have only one option available to them...And that is the process I outlined that Matt Groff gave to us for moving between updates. I'm confident enough in the code and method that I believe it'll work. Now, go read the very first line of this post again, cause it's an important point to understand.
SamuriHL said:
I can't give you any guarantees. Please understand that point as it's VERY important to what I say next.
I chose to originally go to the 235+ path because at the time I THOUGHT I was within a couple weeks of getting a new Samsung S3 Developer phone (what I now call the Samsung unicorn). However, I also wrote the House of Bionic and knew that I could keep moving forward as new leaks came out. Little did I know there'd be so many to test my code on. LOL! The HoB is pretty rock solid at this point....literally being "tested" by hundreds of users. But the warning about 235+ holds...we can't go back to any builds pre-235. That includes 905 which is a very big deal since all ICS updates ONLY update 905. The HoB will flash what parts of 905 it can (system, preinstall, webtop) and then the boot img of the update you're trying to install which allows us to move forward. And in fact allows us to move down, as well. Just no further down than 235. I bring that up for a reason. A lot of us have gone to 244 and we like it. A lot. But should VZW decide to OTA 242, as an example, those of us that have moved forward would be screwed without the ability to move back to 242 to get back on the OTA path. The HoB can do that for us. So I'm not personally concerned with my own phone getting back to the OTA path. Once we get a new ICS FXZ we'll be fine regardless. My warnings are for people that haven't been as blessed as I have to learn from some of the best people in our community. I like to make sure that others have options. Which is why I recommend the majority of people stick with 232. Unless you know the risks, and understand what the process does to your phone to move from one update to another (hint...it involves soft bricking until the update you're trying to install is successfully applied....not for the faint of heart since there's no FXZ safety net to fall back on should something go wrong), then 232 is the "safest" place to be. It gives you ICS but gives you the option of FXZ'ing back to 905 and taking the OTA should you need to go that route. Those on 235+ have only one option available to them...And that is the process I outlined that Matt Groff gave to us for moving between updates. I'm confident enough in the code and method that I believe it'll work. Now, go read the very first line of this post again, cause it's an important point to understand.
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I understand completely. One thing I just learned was If lets say .244 (or .242 as you used as an example) is the OTA release then we are back on the path as long as our version matches the current verizon version. Or did I totally miss interput that. HoB script is Awesome and is what I've used for moving from .2233-.232 and I fully trust myself to use these tools properly to move forward. Sounds like you're in the know of where to locate updates and are a reliable member of the Bionic XDA Community. Since there MAY be a way for us to move forward I think I'll take the plunge this weekend when I have some down time. Thank You
Since we'll never be getting the update on Verizon (unless any of you have any info) I would like to ask my Sprint/T-Mobile variant users how the new camera/etc. update is? Does it fix the stupid robotic crap that happens all the time in the middle of a call that makes the call sound absolutely horrendous? Must be nice for you guys to get updates so timely.
I twated with Verizon support and they said it was forthcoming. Pretty helpful, eh? They said watch the news channel on their website.
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SubliminalME said:
I twated with Verizon support and they said it was forthcoming. Pretty helpful, eh? They said watch the news channel on their website.
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I asked a rep at moto care and all they could tell me is an update will be available as soon as it's ready. I grabbed the sbf files and plan on trying to use the files from the other builds to make a hackneyed update.
I'm betting we get the update before 10/14. That's just a guess based on the phone's release date and the build date that's sitting on the current Verizon software (kernel was built on 8/7 and phone was released on 8/29).
I'd say we'll get an email this week saying the soak test is starting "soon" and we might start to see it roll out this weekend over the next 2 weeks as it's a fairly minor update.