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Update is here...?

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/07/new-droid-bionic-update-5-9-902-is-ready-here-is-the-changelog/
Update is here but I'm not seeing it on the server. :-( FAIL let me know if you got it
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I am not seeing on the server either. I say FAIL too.
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I am on 901 though, I wonder if it will not let me update?

901 too do we have to use pathsaver and go back to 893??
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So much for Moto supporting the people that got 901 pushed to them by accident. Gonna have to pathsaver it up tonight I guess. No more installing leaks for me again.

whether or not .901 has taken you off the upgrade path or not has yet to be verified. As far as I can tell anyone on .901 that is a part of the soak test being conducted currently has not posted with a firm yes or no.
When it gets pushed OTA to everyone else is when we will know for sure.

We have no idea if there's going to be an update for the people who OFFICIALLY got 901 pushed to them or not. I wouldn't panic just yet. We're only seeing this being pushed out to soak testers right now. Once it gets pushed out officially it's entirely possible we'll see the 901 users getting their own update. The soak testers are getting the 893->902 update so that's all we currently know about.
EDIT: Darca ninja'd me.

I think it's official and not a soak test. Verizon has it listed on their page. Here is the link http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/droid_bionic.pdf

Not according to those that got the soak test email. One person was saying that they got the email and 5 minutes later they got the update notification on their phone. Just because VZW pushes out the release notes does not invalidate a soak test. A soak test is just that...the first batch of users to get the update pushed to them to see if there are any issues. It's not just testing the update, it's testing the update process itself with a few thousand users to see how smooth it is. If no major issues are reported in a few days, it starts going out in batches to the wider audience.

Do you think that an update is coming?

We've had leaked versions from Motorola's staging servers since February, and Motorola sent out an invite to potential soak testers in March (which they have not yet acted on).
I don't really expect much out of an update other than kernel and radio updates (I get everything else from the awesome ROMs by our devs), but I'd still like to see something come out!!
So, with that in mind, please feel free to rant and speculate below.

I wouldn't be surprised with nothing coming in the future.
Because Motorola is a whore.

I've seen a couple of posts on various forums with peole receiving replacement or new Droid 3s that already have the 906 update installed. It's possible they've just decided to skip the soak test and are planning to push the update soon. Of couse this is entirely just speculation.
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btonetbone said:
We've had leaked versions from Motorola's staging servers since February, and Motorola sent out an invite to potential soak testers in March (which they have not yet acted on).
I don't really expect much out of an update other than kernel and radio updates (I get everything else from the awesome ROMs by our devs), but I'd still like to see something come out!!
So, with that in mind, please feel free to rant and speculate below.
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My replacement Droid 3 came with the .906 update already installed. Hopefully they'll roll it out soon so the fastboot files will leak

Cameron6472 said:
My replacement Droid 3 came with the .906 update already installed. Hopefully they'll roll it out soon so the fastboot files will leak
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My brother's replacement he got last week came with 890. Was kinda of happy about that since there's not way back from 906 last time i checked.

D2 and D4 Received Updates This Week
DroidForums.net reported on their Twitter feed that updates for the Droid 2 and Droid 4 rolled out on Monday and Wednesday, respectively. Hopefully we'll see something soon for our phone!

I hadn't seen that (but then again, I don't do much twitter so no surprise I guess
I am really considering just installing the 906 update anyway, but if this is coming soon I'd rather the official update.

linuxgator said:
I've seen a couple of posts on various forums with peole receiving replacement or new Droid 3s that already have the 906 update installed. It's possible they've just decided to skip the soak test and are planning to push the update soon. Of couse this is entirely just speculation.
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Are there really NEW new Droid 3's out there with .906? I can understand a refurb coming with it (due to some flaw in the refurb process where Moto forgets to do a true factory reset on a user-updated device). It's all speculative as you say, but that would be a good sign...

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[Q] Droid 3 and Official Ice Cream Sandwich Update Chances.

So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?

I highly doubt that the D3 will ever see an official ICS update. We were lucky to get .906 to be honest. The closest thing we will get is CM9 and AOKP. But hey, there's always that little glimmer of chance though.

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m4nu4l said:
So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
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I think we will get it... Probably not until December or something crazy like that. They probably won't make an announcement until July or Aug as to which phones will receive it.
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?

m4nu4l said:
Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.

Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.

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Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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But do those devices have heavy bloatware and a heavy custom UI like MotoBlur running on them? These are things that you have to take into consideration. There's still hope for an official ICS update, but I just don't see it happening.

Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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MrObvious said:
Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.

clorox.bleach said:
Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?

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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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I'm not talking about custom roms like CM9 or AOKP. I am talking about a stock ICS rom from Motorola and Verizon for the D3. An official update. I am simply stating that since the D3 has no 4G LTE and only 512 mb of ram, Verizon and Motorola most likely won't bother updating it to ICS. Also, being that it has 512 mb of ram, ICS, along with all of Verizon's bloat and Motorola's custom UI, won't run as smoothly as a custom rom.

Isn't there a internal moto dev version of ics that supposedly ran beautifully? thought I remembered reading about that a while ago.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
Dear Vytautas,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do understand that you are excited with the latest Android Ice Cream Sandwich update and we are very sorry for the inconvenience. However, at this time, we do not have any further details, yet, if the Droid 3 will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich.
As soon as we have the information, it will be shared to all users. Do not worry, your concern has already been noted.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Brian
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I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...

I've got a feeling Moto will be working on D3/Milestone3/XT883 or whatever its called and possibly release the files for ours or similar devices, but the sticking point will be Verizon.
Shouldn't matter if the other carriers/similar devices get ICS, Id guess porting what we'd need wouldn't be a problem then

clorox.bleach said:
I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
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An HTC Droid Incredible 2 update has already been announced, so it's not that. (The DInc 2 has 768 MB of RAM; perhaps that is enough to make a difference? I doubt it, though.)
It's probably 50/50. Clearly Moto will focus on getting the Razrs, Bionic and Droid 4 updated before they move on to other phones. The D3 seems a natural upgrade - unlike the X2, it has the same processor as those other phones; it's basically a Bionic with a keyboard, no LTE, "world phone" capability and half the RAM. Is that enough to make it a difficult upgrade? I guess we'll know when we know.

m4nu4l said:
Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
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Being the downer I am, I feel like he meant to say "SHUT UP ALREADY! We know you want ICS! We just like watching you all squirm!"
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So, today I got bored and decided to pick Moto's brains a bit about this topic. (Yes, this is what I did with my free time today.)
I got slightly off topic myself do to his ignorance, but in the end it went well I'd say... You can pretty much skip to the last 5 or so lines.
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Rez: Hi, my name is Rez. How may I help you?
Me: I just have a question about the Droid 3 getting Andorid 4.0. I see that older devices (from other companies) with less powerful internals are scheduled to receive an ICS update. Is it likely that the D3 will receive 4.0?
Rez: That's a good question, Redsox985. Let me check that out for you.
Me: Thanks.
Rez: Thank you for waiting, Redsox985.
Rez: I can see that the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. We will keep you posted thru our website for updates.
Rez: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Me: What does "evaluation and planning" mean? Can you say if it'll happen or not based on this?
Rez: We are waiting for information about the update, Redsox985. It is pending. It should pushed thru since we send updates to most of the Motorola
smartphones from time to time.
Me: Also, I know that independent developers have made a handful of ROMs built from source that run smoothly on the D3. Is it a matter of if the phone can run ICS or is its age an issue?
Rez: Are you referring to a different software for Droid 3 or get the phone rooted, is that what you mean?
Me: Yes, by rooting, you can flash independently built ICS rom's from android source. They run on the phone, but some issues exist between the gingerbread kernel (locked boot loader) and ICS features like hardware acceleration, video camera, and flash.
Me: Adobe flash that is.
Rez: The problem later is the phone will not be able to receive updates once the phone is rooted.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored back to stock software with an SBF.
Rez: It can be unrooted but the updates will not work anymore.
Me: I just did it. I was running 5.6.890 rooted with an open source ICS rom. The 5.7.906 update had started to be pushed OTA. I ran RSD Lite and restored the phone to box stock 5.6.890. I then accepted and installed the OTA. Then re-rooted it.
Rez: It may be working for now but we don't the after-effect of it. I have that case earlier that his phone was rooted before. After trying to unroot it, the phone will not boot up. He's trying to update the phone but it cannot be updated anymore since the phone is not on. suggested to send it to our repair center but I set an expectation to him that it will be considered to be out of warranty already.
Me: RSD Lite will flash all partitions of the phone (radio, system, etc.) back to box stock as if it was purchased new.
Rez: That's a good experiment, Redsox985. How do you want me to help you with that?
Me: It's not an experiment. It works. I just used it. It unrooted my phone and flashed all partitions allowing me to accept the latest OTA.
Me: If I'm able to return to the OTA path, then how could receiving an ICS update (if one even comes) be any different?
Rez: ICS has not yet been announced, we don't have the list of enhancements yet what are included on the ICS. We don't have the information also what will not work once the ICS is installed on the phone that was rooted. We will keep you posted thru our website at www.motorola com for updates.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored to stock software to the point where an OTA will not be able to detect anything different. It's possible to flash box stock software to the phone. It rewrites all partitions.
Rez: I see. That's a good idea.
Me: So, can you speak on the likelihood of the D3 receiving official ICS? It can run it, it's been done. Why won't Moto even consider it?
Rez: We are following what's being updated to us. As I mentioned earlier the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. If you have successfully done it by rooting, it's not from us.
Me: I know it's not official, I'm just wondering why it hasn't been done being that it's possible.
Rez: Because we are working on updates thoroughly. We don't want that we just send out updates with glitches.
Me: So, ICS for the D3 is being worked on?
Rez: Yes. That's part of evaluation.
Me: But it's possible that the update will just be killed internally before it ever is released?
Rez: I cant say that unless it happens. I don't want to give any false hopes. Because we are also waiting for that update.
Me: Can you estimate the D3's chances of receiving ICS?
Rez: 90 per cent it will receive it.
Me: Wow. I'm impressed. Thanks.
Me: Is that a hopeful or conservative estimate?
Rez: Hopeful.

Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Endoroid said:
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Undoubtedly. But he has the internal update info I don't. So I dealt with his stupidity and kept pressing.

6.7.244 ics

And another one leaks. Same deal as 242...Security doesn't allow downgrade to 905 yada blah blah. This is getting old now. We've been on ics leaks since June and no ota in sight. House of Bionic has support for 244 for those who've already jumped to 235+. Those on 232 should continue to wait. At this point those on 232 are pretty much getting as much use out of it as they did 905. Maybe even more so. Lol.
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I think at this rate those of us on the Bionic will see Key Lime Pie out on the Nexus before we see ICS.

It's certainly getting to that point. If this build gets rejected then it's going to be October before we have any hope of seeing ota. Ugh!
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I am not that certain the Bionic will see ICS officially. Maybe there will declare it at EOL and quit.

Reason #2 why I will never, never, never buy another Moto device of any sort. This is totally absurd.

Has nothing to do with Moto. This is 100% on VZW. Moto has put out _9_ builds that VZW has rejected. *9*! That's unheard of. The ONLY issue left to fix is the stupid flash thing which NO moto ICS build works properly with. It's ridiculous but it's not Moto's fault.

Underwater Mike said:
Reason #2 why I will never, never, never buy another Moto device of any sort. This is totally absurd.
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In the future, Motorola will be offering developer editions of their phones so that is my reason for continuing to remain with them, along with the quality of build typically being superior to the other companies (I say typical, as in not being 100% but for the most part).
With them releasing developer editions, this shouldn't be a problem anymore because it basically will turn all of their future devices into nexus's as far as being able to develop for.
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smokedkill said:
In the future, Motorola will be offering developer editions of their phones so that is my reason for continuing to remain with them, along with the quality of build typically being superior to the other companies (I say typical, as in not being 100% but for the most part).
With them releasing developer editions, this shouldn't be a problem anymore because it basically will turn all of their future devices into nexus's as far as being able to develop for.
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And let's not forget the most important aspect. Right in the middle of our ICS update being developed, Google went in and cleaned house at Moto. You can't deny that Moto is going to be a very different company moving forward with Google now owning them and installing an ex-Google ceo as the new Moto ceo. We're already starting to see massive changes and I for one think it's going to get a lot better. I'm on board with a new dev device from Moto as soon as they release the one I want. Samsung lost that bet with me back in July. The Samsung unicorn never materialized. Moto already has the devices up on the unlock page so we're not talking unicorns here. The RAZR M dev phone is up for preorder and I think coming this week. So, let's forget about the old Moto run by an idiot and focus on what direction Google is pointing the ship now.

I agree. I watched their press conference on YouTube and they definitely seemed like a new company. They specifically mentioned people wanting to tinker with their phones and changing things. It's been no secret that google follows the development community, especially considering some of the newer features of android were originally developed by the root community back in the old days of android (2009-2010).
On a side note, did anyone read about how nobody who works at apple actually uses SIRI (at least none of their developers). I found it amusing since I've seen the apple fanboys brag about SIRI. I think google and Android manufacturers should look into suing apple over some of the things they took from Android, such as voice search and folders. If you ask a fanboy, I'm sure they would tell you that android stole those from apple as well, even if we did have them first.
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On a side note, did anyone read about how nobody who works at apple actually uses SIRI (at least none of their developers). I found it amusing since I've seen the apple fanboys brag about SIRI. I think google and Android manufacturers should look into suing apple over some of the things they took from Android, such as voice search and folders. If you ask a fanboy, I'm sure they would tell you that android stole those from apple as well, even if we did have them first.
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Share a link... I'd love to read about that bit of news.

A curiosity about this release... Some folks (including myself) found out that tethering was borked, even with FoxFi, after a certain leak release version. I'm not sure which one but I know tethering wasn't working for me on .232 and it doesn't work on my install of Liquid ICS 1.5 ROM, but I started from scratch and put .223 back into my non-safe side and FoxFi worked. Any idea if .244 still blocks tethering?
The obvious answer would be "yes" if we follow the logic that some version after .223 blocked it, but I just wanted to make sure

FoxFi hasn't stopped working for me in any of the builds. Still kicking for me in 244, as well.

Its in the article on USA today about a former executive talking about the siri commercials detracting from the product. I believe it made other news outlets also. I'll see if I can find a link.
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Vnvjeep said:
Share a link... I'd love to read about that bit of news.
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Here is a link. The part about apple employees not using it is near the end.
http://mashable.com/2012/09/10/ex-apple-exec-pull-siri-ads/
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.244 change log
-the boring 2 has been changed to an awesome 4
-new "chiwawa barking dog" default ringtone
-phone now actually taste like a ice cream sandwich
-leaves breath minty fresh

ROFLMAO! That about sums it up.

Its VZW causing the delay
SamuriHL said:
Has nothing to do with Moto. This is 100% on VZW. Moto has put out _9_ builds that VZW has rejected. *9*! That's unheard of. The ONLY issue left to fix is the stupid flash thing which NO moto ICS build works properly with. It's ridiculous but it's not Moto's fault.
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I agree, this is 100% VZW. My Motorola Xoom tablet received Android 4.1 back in July, because they did not have to go through VZW to release to the field. The XOOM and Bioinc run the exact same processor.

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I agree, this is 100% VZW. My Motorola Xoom tablet received Android 4.1 back in July, because they did not have to go through VZW to release to the field. The XOOM and Bioinc run the exact same processor.
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Actually they don't. The Bionic uses an OMAP 4400. Nonetheless, VZW is what's holding up the OTA. Moto has done everything they can do to try to please them. I mean, how do you fix a problem with a plugin that's never going to get another update by the people who made it? It's clear that Adobe would have to fix it on their end not on Moto's. So it's just stupid.

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Actually they don't. The Bionic uses an OMAP 4400. Nonetheless, VZW is what's holding up the OTA. Moto has done everything they can do to try to please them. I mean, how do you fix a problem with a plugin that's never going to get another update by the people who made it? It's clear that Adobe would have to fix it on their end not on Moto's. So it's just stupid.
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I value your opinion SamuriHL so let me ask you this. Is VZW's delay why you have chosen to go down the can never go back path (.235-.244)? I've been sitting idle at .232 and I'm ready to move on. Now with the news that we will get JB OTA at some point should I just wait another month for the ICS OTA or do what you have done down the leaked path. Do you think we'll get JB leaks too? I don't mind making the jump but I have to live with this phone for at least another 14 months and honestly i don't think I'll need to upgrade when the time comes. I'm pretty darn content with the Bionic. I just don't want to go down this road to end up at a dead end. Can we keep going forward?

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I value your opinion SamuriHL so let me ask you this. Is VZW's delay why you have chosen to go down the can never go back path (.235-.244)? I've been sitting idle at .232 and I'm ready to move on. Now with the news that we will get JB OTA at some point should I just wait another month for the ICS OTA or do what you have done down the leaked path. Do you think we'll get JB leaks too? I don't mind making the jump but I have to live with this phone for at least another 14 months and honestly i don't think I'll need to upgrade when the time comes. I'm pretty darn content with the Bionic. I just don't want to go down this road to end up at a dead end. Can we keep going forward?
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I can't give you any guarantees. Please understand that point as it's VERY important to what I say next.
I chose to originally go to the 235+ path because at the time I THOUGHT I was within a couple weeks of getting a new Samsung S3 Developer phone (what I now call the Samsung unicorn). However, I also wrote the House of Bionic and knew that I could keep moving forward as new leaks came out. Little did I know there'd be so many to test my code on. LOL! The HoB is pretty rock solid at this point....literally being "tested" by hundreds of users. But the warning about 235+ holds...we can't go back to any builds pre-235. That includes 905 which is a very big deal since all ICS updates ONLY update 905. The HoB will flash what parts of 905 it can (system, preinstall, webtop) and then the boot img of the update you're trying to install which allows us to move forward. And in fact allows us to move down, as well. Just no further down than 235. I bring that up for a reason. A lot of us have gone to 244 and we like it. A lot. But should VZW decide to OTA 242, as an example, those of us that have moved forward would be screwed without the ability to move back to 242 to get back on the OTA path. The HoB can do that for us. So I'm not personally concerned with my own phone getting back to the OTA path. Once we get a new ICS FXZ we'll be fine regardless. My warnings are for people that haven't been as blessed as I have to learn from some of the best people in our community. I like to make sure that others have options. Which is why I recommend the majority of people stick with 232. Unless you know the risks, and understand what the process does to your phone to move from one update to another (hint...it involves soft bricking until the update you're trying to install is successfully applied....not for the faint of heart since there's no FXZ safety net to fall back on should something go wrong), then 232 is the "safest" place to be. It gives you ICS but gives you the option of FXZ'ing back to 905 and taking the OTA should you need to go that route. Those on 235+ have only one option available to them...And that is the process I outlined that Matt Groff gave to us for moving between updates. I'm confident enough in the code and method that I believe it'll work. Now, go read the very first line of this post again, cause it's an important point to understand.

SamuriHL said:
I can't give you any guarantees. Please understand that point as it's VERY important to what I say next.
I chose to originally go to the 235+ path because at the time I THOUGHT I was within a couple weeks of getting a new Samsung S3 Developer phone (what I now call the Samsung unicorn). However, I also wrote the House of Bionic and knew that I could keep moving forward as new leaks came out. Little did I know there'd be so many to test my code on. LOL! The HoB is pretty rock solid at this point....literally being "tested" by hundreds of users. But the warning about 235+ holds...we can't go back to any builds pre-235. That includes 905 which is a very big deal since all ICS updates ONLY update 905. The HoB will flash what parts of 905 it can (system, preinstall, webtop) and then the boot img of the update you're trying to install which allows us to move forward. And in fact allows us to move down, as well. Just no further down than 235. I bring that up for a reason. A lot of us have gone to 244 and we like it. A lot. But should VZW decide to OTA 242, as an example, those of us that have moved forward would be screwed without the ability to move back to 242 to get back on the OTA path. The HoB can do that for us. So I'm not personally concerned with my own phone getting back to the OTA path. Once we get a new ICS FXZ we'll be fine regardless. My warnings are for people that haven't been as blessed as I have to learn from some of the best people in our community. I like to make sure that others have options. Which is why I recommend the majority of people stick with 232. Unless you know the risks, and understand what the process does to your phone to move from one update to another (hint...it involves soft bricking until the update you're trying to install is successfully applied....not for the faint of heart since there's no FXZ safety net to fall back on should something go wrong), then 232 is the "safest" place to be. It gives you ICS but gives you the option of FXZ'ing back to 905 and taking the OTA should you need to go that route. Those on 235+ have only one option available to them...And that is the process I outlined that Matt Groff gave to us for moving between updates. I'm confident enough in the code and method that I believe it'll work. Now, go read the very first line of this post again, cause it's an important point to understand.
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I understand completely. One thing I just learned was If lets say .244 (or .242 as you used as an example) is the OTA release then we are back on the path as long as our version matches the current verizon version. Or did I totally miss interput that. HoB script is Awesome and is what I've used for moving from .2233-.232 and I fully trust myself to use these tools properly to move forward. Sounds like you're in the know of where to locate updates and are a reliable member of the Bionic XDA Community. Since there MAY be a way for us to move forward I think I'll take the plunge this weekend when I have some down time. Thank You

ICS Approved by Verizon

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/1...ce-cream-sandwich-update-approved-by-verizon/

Wonder why they didn't use .247
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As I understand it 247 is JB ready. 246 is not. This could mean we aren't getting JB. Not officially anyway. Kinda sucks. I thought they would try to treat us better.
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josdad00 said:
As I understand it 247 is JB ready. 246 is not. This could mean we aren't getting JB. Not officially anyway. Kinda sucks. I thought they would try to treat us better.
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I think you can thank big red for that. Not Moto

SCFirefighter said:
I think you can thank big red for that. Not Moto
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Exactly. VZW doesn't make money from software upgrades, they make money by selling phones (then charging a mint for service). You want the newer features? Buy a newer phone. I'm surprised we even got this TBH.

KaneOfMars said:
Wonder why they didn't use .247
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Where are you guys seeing a version number?

Sir_Eagle said:
Where are you guys seeing a version number?
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In the screenshots of Moto's pdf: http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/droid_bionic_instructions.pdf

SCFirefighter said:
In the screenshots from Moto's pdf
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Is there a way to update now instead of waiting since we know 246 is final?

1800collect said:
Is there a way to update now instead of waiting since we know 246 is final?
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I don't know if 246 (or 247 for that matter) was ever available as a leak. I've been running 232 until two days ago. Now I'm stock, waiting for the soak.
If it hasn't been leaked you'll have to wait until someone from the soak group makes 246 available. That will probably be tomorrow since I've heard that's when the soak test starts.

I beg to differ. If verizon could keep you on their plan without selling you a new subsidized phone they would even make more money.

wilkster said:
I beg to differ. If verizon could keep you on their plan without selling you a new subsidized phone they would even make more money.
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While that is true, their strategy is to get people to buy more subsidized phones so they get kicked off unlimited and into shared data plans. These new plans are liquid gold for VZ. They were supposedly all over that on their quarterly investors conference call this morning.
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SCFirefighter said:
I don't know if 246 (or 247 for that matter) was ever available as a leak. I've been running 232 until two days ago. Now I'm stock, waiting for the soak.
If it hasn't been leaked you'll have to wait until someone from the soak group makes 246 available. That will probably be tomorrow since I've heard that's when the soak test starts.
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Both were leaked, didn't see 246 posted anywhere but I know you can get 247 from house of bionic ... running it now
Would be nice of moto if they leaked a JB build at some point even though vzw would never approve it.
Edit: I could be wrong about 246 being leaked.
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.246 was also leaked
Leaks were available all the way to .247. Currently House of Bionic is recommending that everyone on .247 go back to .246. If you are on .242, DON'T go on any higher leak because you can't go back. I'm reverting back to .246, but I've been stranded for a while. :silly:

BionicRay said:
Leaks were available all the way to .247. Currently House of Bionic is recommending that everyone on .247 go back to .246. If you are on .242, DON'T go on any higher leak because you can't go back. I'm reverting back to .246, but I've been stranded for a while. :silly:
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New security was implemented in the .235 leak. .232 was as high as you could go to be able to revert back to .905
If you are on .235-.247 you can use House of Bionic to go back and forth in these builds. If you are .235 or higher and try to go back to .905 or .232 you will brick your phone!!
If you are .235-.247 it is recommended to go to .246 to be back on the OTA update path.

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