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Hello- first of all thank you for all the efforts that you guys (xda-developers) have put into making Nook Color a cool tablet.
I have pretty much gone through all the ROMs out there and have a few questions:
1. I am looking for a ROM that does not have this phone, camera and other not so relevant stuff for Nook Color. I want my Nook Color to feel and run like a tablet and not like a tablet running phone OS. Is there one out there?
The stock ROM does have more of a e-reader/tablet feel but the home screen sux (I think).
2. The buttons/soft keys in the ROMS I have tested are tiny and hard to use. Once again that is one of the good things about Stock ROM it has big buttons and if you have big fat hands like me they are easier to use. Any mod/theme/setting to make all the buttons typically BIGGER?
Thanks again for your work and support!
(If i have asked questions and have already been asked, my apologies. Please direct me to the relevant thread)
Doesn't changing the screen density do this? I believe some people change the screen density to a value of 250 or so to make the icons appear bigger. I think it does cut something off, though. Do a search, it might be what you want.
Tablet Tweaks is the thread title I think.
I am on my phone now so no links or long post.
Your best bet MAY be honeycomb, long term.
The tablet tweaks are still being tested but are a tremendous improvement.
right now it is a separate rom (based on latest CM7) compiled every few days by the dev
It IS considered at best beta last I knew. Project is only a week or so old.
I use CM7 with the tablet tweaks and oc kernel and have few problems; everything that does act up is being worked on actively.
I'm currently on customized nookie froyo with wretched's theme.
Looks and feel good to me:
Rom:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938200
Theme:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944278
Additional app:
- Button savior instead of softkey for full screen app. It's less intrusive
- No Lock : disable the lockscreen, when pressing a button the nook wake up without the phone styled lockscreen.
I use zeam as my launcher with stock rooted. I don't see any 'phone' artifacts anywhere. I imagine this would be the same for any rom.
I remapped volume up to back and don't even use soft keys or the like anymore. If all the buttons are too small then I think a density bump is your best bet.
Since everybody seems to upbeat about the Nexus 4, here some things that REALLY piss me off.
For reference, I am coming from a DEFY / CM9 and have at the same time here a new HTC One S / CM10. And then there would be a Nexus 7, and a Kindle Fire / CM10/SGT7.
Why on earth couldn't they have the normal buttons on the bottom, and instead needed to waste precious screen real estate ? I do understand that a 7 inch tablet needs that as it's turned between landscape and portrait. But for a phone ... After all there is space on the device, which is unused now ...
This little microSIM tray is nifty. Especially if you are at an airport, just bought the prepaid microSIM and try to put it in. You have the tool with you, right ?
The new and improved camera app stinks like heck. The device support ISO settings, different focus modi, red-eye removal ... the works. But the default application fails to expose ANY of that. I cannot even set the JPEG quality level ... EPIC fail.
Tried to use 720p video recording ? 22fps stuttering ...
Lockscreen widgets ... why on earth would I want to have that ? And why couldn't there just be a simply settings entry to disable that ? (yes, I know that there is now an app out there that gets rid of it ...)
The good old clock. Nice work. Tons of features. Way too many. Why split this over-engineered mess into "Alarm" and "Watch" and whatever ?
Battery drain ... Looks like a lot of the new features (some which I cannot uninstall per default) are sucking up processor time, like the "Mediaserver" (got the same apps/settings as on CM9/CM10, where this does not happen).
This new pulldown quick settings is nifty. Takes me now 2 clicks and one slide to toggle wireless ... much improved over the one-click toggle in CM9/CM10 (and HTC Sense, and TouchWhiz, and ...).
Overall I feel that 4.2 is a step back from 4.1, because every new feature that should make up 4.2 seems to be more in the way than anything else. The toy needs sooo urgently CM10 it's not even funny.
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
Why does... does... do you guys smell apples? I swear I think I do.
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The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was [...] and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent
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What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
Instead of whinning about it why not try to do something about it.
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Yeah stop moaning and send it back.
Why keep a phone that "pisses" you off so much...
U mad bro?
Early adopter and complaining (very mad) that there are some updates needed............silly
Maybe u should sell it on eBay and make some money?
Or better......sell it to one of the great devs that are waiting for a device!!!!!!
Sent from my GT-I9450
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What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
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Yes. I have. Thanks for your assumptions though. Despite your "cringing", Apple's implementation of a dynamic "back button" at the top-left of nearly every iOS app is much more consistent and predictable.
On Android, sometimes the back button takes you back to the screen you were on previously on the same level, sometimes it takes you up a level, and sometimes it closes the app which is always surprising and annoying if you were not aware you were already at the root level. The home button closes an app, the back button doesn't need to. Google is even well aware of this unpredictably and has gone as far to draw up guidelines as to how it should be implemented, but many developers choose to ignore it.
Unpredictable behavior is bad UX design, plain and simple. Having a place in-app that takes you back and a hardware/software button that does the same is also redundant and unnecessary. Navigating an app should be natural and intuitive and all within the app, in my opinion. Hardware/software keys should be reserved for OS-level tasks like Home, Task Switching, etc.
I agree the software buttons are the best choice, but it would be nice to see them implemented in a much more dynamic and space-saving way.
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
TheFiveDots said:
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
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Yes, I was thinking that the merged tablet interface would be a cool idea for the "Nexus 4". With CM10/SGT7 on the KF you also get a nicer notification panel, which might be reasonable for a device of this size.
MonsieurJohnny said:
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
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Doesn't work. Paperclip is too big for that one (at least the 3 different ones I tried).
woody296 said:
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
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Actually I might do (or simply return it), but for different reasons than just the SW I was ranting about (and being disappointed for now). Of course many issues I cited will be fixed with a CM10.1 custom ROM in about 3 months ...
I disagree with the on screen buttons. I had the gs3 and it was terrible for accidentally catching the buttons. The bezel is there for a reason, Samsung put real buttons on the bezel and it's terrible. This is best of both worlds, if an watching a video I get the full screen as the buttons disappear, yet for everything else the screen is a great size.
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I feel sorry for everyone and everything in your life.
I disagree. 4.2 is a major improvement, much faster and smoother. All these new things will be improved upon in future updates.
It sounds to me like some people would never be happy no matter what they do.
As for the on screen buttons, i love them after coming from a device that had a push button for home. It would be great though to make them autohide as they do for video.
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Lol I love that all you fan boys bash the Op and make fun of him, but I hate to break it to you, everything in his post is true. The proper response is: "yes Google screwed some things up pretty badly here, but overall the good outweighs the bad."
Some of you people are worse than iSheep. No need to defend everything a company does. If you don't acknowledge the bad you basically give Google a license to never fix the problem it created because Google thinks you like those problems!
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
I've been using it for a few days and I love the device . smoother than m gs3
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This guy doesn't own one, he's just seen videos, it is pretty obvious.
People just love complaining, I think this is he's first android phone, probably bought it because it was so cheap, try to buy an iPhone for that price you'll probably just about pick up a second hand 4s, I've never seen a phone so cheap with so many features, first phone with 2gb ram, even the iPhone 5 has only 1gb ram.
send your phone back and go and buy an iPhone 4s from ebay!!!
Hey everybody,
I spent the last two weeks since I got hold of my HTC One with flashing every Rom available, but still I couldn't find an entirely satisfying package.
Since I see all the mods and kind of got to know that a lot of options are available via Aroma Installer I am beginning to question my approach.
Maybe I got it all wrong looking for the one ROM that fits my needs...
But that was what I was used to on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
I basically sticked to one ROM for months and applied occasional updates.
Basically what I would want:
Good Audio Quality
It doesn't have to be Beats, but at least equally loud and not cracking like most of the AOSP roms I tried.
This is crucial as it was one of the main criteria for me to buy the HTC One. I want to make use of those gorgeous speakers.
Stock look preferred
I feel that Sense is way to bloated and I kind of like the stock Android Halo Look.
As I am using Nova Launcher anyways I wouldn't be missing the Sense Launcher. I find the Sense Settings Menu confusing, to be honest.
Battery Percentage on the right, no extra icon on the left
Notification Toggles / Horizontal Toggles
Well there are apps (like this one), but they require to display a notification icon permanently.
Power Saver Mode
This one is apparently working quite well...and I wouldn't mind having it in the CustomROM.
But if I can get a sufficient amount of daily use outof it I would be happy enough
Changing Screen-Density to 400 to 420dpi
Doesn't really matter if done via manually editing the build.prop or in a different way. It's just important to me that it can be done withouth making the Framework instable.
Hide IME-Switcher Notification, as I am using SwiftKey permanently
Longpress Back-to-Kill
I really make use of this quite often as I have a lot of apps that I use only once a day, such as banking or runtastic. After using them I am used to killing them, which saves me the detour of going to the recently used apps.
Kill-All in recently used apps
If I have to kill 10 or so apps I endorse having the kill-all button.
Home / HTC-Logo / Sweep 2 Wake
My hands are average size so it is quite a pain to reach all the way up to the power button. (Misplacement if you ask me.)
Something I thought I might get used to, but I just couldn't.
(...seriously, this is what works on the iphone. Waking the phone pushing the home button, while it is placed on it's flat unwobbly back. Hence the HTC One lays better in the hand due to the curved back.)
Some way to wake the phone up without using two hands would be great.
HTC-Logo to Menu or Option to have an onscreen-menubar
I kind of miss the menu button...if the 3-dot menu is just disabled in some roms.
I actually was considering getting the onscreen menubar back and linking the home and back button to apps such as Whatsapp and Google Now solely.
Enough of the wishlist :laugh:
Has anyone any recommendations how to get this jack of all trades stock rom?
I tried the following:
Android Revolution HD, TrickDroid, ViperOne, InsertCoin, bigxie Google Edition, the nandroid of the GE stock image.
PAC-man, CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid
At the moment I am running InsertCoin, which is not that bad. But still feels a bit bloated, due to the sense "look and feel".
If I would have to evaluate what bugged me the most and really surprised me on each "type" of rom the baseline would look like this:
Sense based roms:
+ Battery Life
+ Stability
+ Sound Quality
- "messy" Sense look and feel (Settings etc.)
Google Edition roms:
+ Stock look and feel
+ Sound Quality
- Battery Life
- Customizability (Battery-Percentage, Toggles etc.)
Non-HTC Base roms:
+ Stock look and feel
+ Customizability
- Battery Life
- Stability
-- Sound Quality very poor
Please don't get me wrong.
I am not someone who is too lazy to get through all the Roms and read myself into it. :angel:
But I think that I might be missing out on something or just overlooking an option, like a kitchen for the HTC One or so
Thanks in advance :good:
All the best.
Flash the ViperOne
you will have all you want.
Guich said:
Flash the ViperOne
you will have all you want.
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That's what I thought as well
And I tried it yesterday evening.
Though it felt bloated. It's not only the overwhelming sense-like UI, but as well all the features it offers.
Viper debloated and Google Edition based, with a leaner approach to all the used icons would be love on the first sight :good:
Thanks for the immediate reply
(just realized I called ViperOne "Venom" in my prev. Post)
You have to do a choise.
If you like the GE Rom, flash this, but the audio, the zoe function and much more there aren't.
ViperOne is the best rom for the customization
Okay Slim Bean for the HTC One seems to be the best compromise. :victory:
Not bloated at all, stock look and feel, true black theme and all the requested and beloved features are available.
The on thing I was worried about was the One-specific things, such as Hardware Key Controls and wake-options, but they are built right in the rom/kernel combination.
A user reported 22h (100% to 2%) with slightly over 4h of screentime, which sounds sweet.
Gonna try to install a sound mod to increase the soundquality.
Even though it is not as bad as on the other AOSP-based roms that I tried before.
Hey everyone,
due to the high resolution and comparably large screen estate I would like to use a lower screen density of around 410dpi, instead of the stock 480. :fingers-crossed:
One example:
On my Galaxy Nexus I was used to having a 24dpi high navigation bar at the bottom of the screen.
It was small but still I was able to hit the buttons accurately.
Same goes for the small keys of my keyboard of choice, Swiftkey.
Since I am on the HTC One and I flashed a Custom ROM, which I am running on 410dpi and wanted that stock android navigation bar at the bottom even at 48dpi (which is like 1.7x the height of the one I was using on my Galaxy Nexus) I have trouble hitting the buttons.
This is very disappointing.
It feels like the Touch layer of the HTC One is not that accurate
Is it just me or is this a known problem?
(Couldn't find anything via search, though)
Any ideas what to do about it?
All the best and thanks in advance :good:
I don't see this at 360dpi which is what I have mine at, but I do see it at 240, but everything then is silly in size.
Have you enabled the show touches in dev options and checked where its actually pressing?
Always keep forgetting about that! Thanks!
That is pretty weird...the touch inputs seem to be quite accurate, though. (Debugging Tool)
But it doesn't recognize them in something like "the upper half of the navigation bar" :/
I quickly shot a Video (sorry not the best focus point )
One can clearly see that I am hitting the home button several times, but the input doesn't get recognized.
That is really really weird and unsatisfactory :/
I gave it a shot for you... It seems to work fine on 36dp and above. 30 and 24 exhibit the same behavior as your video.
FYI: I'm running SlimROM at 361dpi. That was the default for me when I went from ARHD 10.2 to Slim b6 and it has stuck with me since then. I tried to get the same look in RootBox but it didn't work the same, so I went back to SlimROM b6.8, and am now on SlimROM b7.
Thanks :good:
I am starting to believe that this is might be caused by the Logo-Button-Hack.
If you peek closely from the side under the tip of your finger touching the button and starting from the very bottom of the glass area there is just no response at all on the logo. It's like the first pixel of the screen are allocated to the logo-button and not the area below the screen.
Maybe an area of lets say 10-15 pixels height is used for that and therefore not any longer available for the nav bar.
Which doesn't really matter if you are hitting the comparably huge app-icons in the drawer otherwise
I'm thinking of purchasing one would someone be willing to tell me the pro's and con's of this phone?
before you read my response, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/attention-questions-t3228454
pro.. i love the damn thing too much, its seriously making me think twice about buying a nexus 6p
con.. i love the damn thing too much, its seriously making me think twice about buying a nexus 6p
I got one yesterday and love it. Easy to unlock the bootloader and rooting. Using wufresh toolkit is foolproof. Now to decided if I should make a ROM or just use what's out there which is plenty. No regrets at all. And this device always getting updates. Good luck.
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Its a super phone! Once you get hooked to the display, you won't like any thing smaller. Fluid as water, looks gorgeous, gets latest from Google, i already have 6.0.1 running on it! Numerous custom roms, best of community support!
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I got one from Amazon's black friday deal. Had an HTC one m9 beforry but the N6 serves my purposes better.
Yea it's a little large and needs some time to get use to the size, but it's a great phone. Very smooth and no lag at all. You won't be disappointed.
It's a solid device. If you open up a lot of apps, it's better than any phone I've used at keeping them in system memory.
The camera isn't good without ideal light, and the vibration motor is the worst since my Moto Cliq. But you can root away one, the other not so much
i love mine, its fast, its big..handy if your eyes are getting a bit older. Easy to root, unlock. Now if i only knew how to make roms i would be very happy.
TMG1961 said:
Now if i only knew how to make roms i would be very happy.
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Well, with a lot of patience, I can assure you
For starters, build a basic AOSP rom, then take your time to map out how what works, and take baby steps.
So far the only thing I've changed was:
- Dismiss all button for recents
- Fix menu button on the navigation bar, now it has four buttons equally distributed
- UI tuner is always on, and can't be turned off (but I left the spinning gear in, it's cool)
- Settings displays my version
- You can access the Clock app tapping any time or date field on the status bar, and not just the next alarm
- And more fixes, like making Battery saving location not soft rebooting on AOSP
- And the most significant change that the white "android" boot animation (the one you see if sou don't have a botanimation.zip) is replaced by a cyan colored "cyosp" one (you can see in my signature)
istperson said:
Well, with a lot of patience, I can assure you
For starters, build a basic AOSP rom, then take your time to map out how what works, and take baby steps.
So far the only thing I've changed was:
- Dismiss all button for recents
- Fix menu button on the navigation bar, now it has four buttons equally distributed
- UI tuner is always on, and can't be turned off (but I left the spinning gear in, it's cool)
- Settings displays my version
- You can access the Clock app tapping any time or date field on the status bar, and not just the next alarm
- And more fixes, like making Battery saving location not soft rebooting on AOSP
- And the most significant change that the white "android" boot animation (the one you see if sou don't have a botanimation.zip) is replaced by a cyan colored "cyosp" one (you can see in my signature)
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Thanks for your answer
I'm also thinking of purchasing this phone very soon. Few questions as well:
The phone is already a year old. Is this phone good if I'm thinking of using it for at least 18mo?
That display/brightness...I've heard its really dim (270 nits, really?), and damn near unreadable outdoors. Just overexhaggerating here on reviewers' part? As a reference, I'm coming from an LG G3.
Thanks!