Hi,
I've been a visitor of this site for quite some time now, and i've modded my phone quite a few times, with the help of you guy on the forum. But i recently signed up today.
Anyway, to cut to the chase.
I have an Xperia X8 loaded with Kuyadroid. android version 2.3.7,
I want to update to ICS but my phone has the 11w29 sticker, so Unlocking the bootloader will be dangerous, but i've been researching and have found out that through the use of "Test Points", the phone can be unlocked, despite my phones Manufacture number.
but first, can anybody tell me where the test point is on the E15 board, and what i have to do after i have tampered with the test point?
Your help is appreciated
thanks
I also have a 11w29 and unlocked it in the normal way found here at the xda and did not brick my phone hope it helped
Yeah but my X8 is network locked by Three Mobile, and running a custom ROM already, can i still unlock my bootloader, & even though it worked for you, it may not for me, normally it's a matter of Chance, but is there any safe way to unlock the bootloader, this is my only phone and i can't afford to break it!
thanks for replying so quickly
Der_Panzerfaust said:
Yeah but my X8 is network locked by Three Mobile, and running a custom ROM already, can i still unlock my bootloader, & even though it worked for you, it may not for me, normally it's a matter of Chance, but is there any safe way to unlock the bootloader, this is my only phone and i can't afford to break it!
thanks for replying so quickly
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I believe you should NOT opt for unlocking considering the two facts that you have 11W29 (had you had 11W28 , things would've been different) and that you can't afford to break it.
I was thinking that, but it would really benefit me if i could unlock the bootloader since it unlocks so many good features of a phone, but i heard that the test point method can be used with 11w29+ handsets, and is less likely to brick.
Der_Panzerfaust said:
I was thinking that, but it would really benefit me if i could unlock the bootloader since it unlocks so many good features of a phone, but i heard that the test point method can be used with 11w29+ handsets, and is less likely to brick.
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You may risk it. It's up to you. If you are not under warranty , I do not suggest you to proceed. However , the final judgement lies with you
Il, be careful,
but where is the test point on the E15 board, and what do i do after i've tampered with it? & my phone is locked By Three mobile, will that be a problem?
Thats a Simlock issue. Bootloader was lock by manufacturer not with the network provider. Take note that it may relock after unlocking bootloader.
If I were you better not you have been WARNED.
Thanks, but does anyone actually know where the test point is so i can try out this risky operation??
I had a 11w34 just remember that when tested the phone with s1tool showed semc sim certificate and used the ms77 cmd tool and it unlocked just fine, now i have 11w48 cause previous one was stolen from me and want to take the risk but its not going trough dunno why it says adb not a valid command
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I used S1tool & i got the "SEMC Simlock certificate" message, i looked around and that means my bootloader is unlockable, but does that mean i can unlock with less chance of bricking my phone?
Traditional unlock is incredibly risky with 11w29+, seems especially bad in the 30s range. The SEMC Simlock message means nothing, as unlocking will seem to work (just on the next reboot you will have hardbricked your phone). Not much you can do at that point so I wouldn't risk it.
Recent SETool can safely unlock the new chipset (no test point needed). Very pricey if you want to do it yourself, but you can go through a comparatively cheap service such as unlock-bootloader.com. Process is quick and painless.
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Traditional unlock is incredibly risky with 11w29+, seems especially bad in the 30s range. The SEMC Simlock message means nothing, as unlocking will seem to work (just on the next reboot you will have hardbricked your phone). Not much you can do at that point so I wouldn't risk it.
Recent SETool can safely unlock the new chipset (no test point needed). Very pricey if you want to do it yourself, but you can go through a comparatively cheap service such as unlock-bootloader.com. Process is quick and painless.
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Does SETool really work with the new Chipset my phone currently carries, and also is it still possible for me to find the test point, do you know wher it is? and what do i do after that?
As far as I have read the test points aren't easily accessible on X8, you'd probably have to solder and even then it might still be risky (in addition to potentially physically breaking your phone). Am not 100% on that though.
I can confirm that paid SETool works, had my X8 unlocked that way as I have a newer model as well. Also has the benefit of unlocking fastboot and any sim lock that might be on it.
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As far as I have read the test points aren't easily accessible on X8, you'd probably have to solder and even then it might still be risky (in addition to potentially physically breaking your phone). Am not 100% on that though.
I can confirm that paid SETool works, had my X8 unlocked that way as I have a newer model as well. Also has the benefit of unlocking fastboot and any sim lock that might be on it.
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Ok, thanks, but how much will SETool cost for this procedure?
A lot if you buy the toolbox/smart card/credits to unlock yourself. Considerably less if you let someone else do it.
I paid about 15 quid to have it unlocked over the net.
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A lot if you buy the toolbox/smart card/credits to unlock yourself. Considerably less if you let someone else do it.
I paid about 15 quid to have it unlocked over the net.
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http://support.setool.net/showthread.php?3-UPDATES-AND-NEWS/page24
this link says something about SETool being free after the smartcard is updated but something tells me i'm misreading it, can you tell me what this means?
thanks
I think it used to be that you had to buy credits for SETool per-use whereas now you buy them once for the update and then can use it indefinitely.
Unfortunately no free way to do it at this point as far as I can tell, unless you can/want to risk it. I couldn't, so considering the likely cost of having it hardbricked I thought it was fairly reasonable.
Curses, thats quite a kick in the jewels,
Where can i buy credits, & how many credits do i need, at what price?
Can't really help there as I don't have that kind of money to spend.
I think you'd need to invest in a toolbox (~£100ish?) and smart card (~£50? afaik) but I'm not sure whether that includes the update credit or not.
It is quite depressing. It being a software solution there's hope for a free tool to be available someday, but being an older phone I would not hold my breath. Don't we wish they could just ship devices in a state that isn't trying to screw us over :/
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what kind of equipment do i need to start unlocking phones??
software? hardware??cables??
any sites i can visit that i can get more info from??
you mean unlocking any phone ?
Yes, knowing roughly what brand of phone might help.
For HTC phones, you're in the best place already.
For others, check out
http://nokiafree.org/forums/
or
http://www.gsmhosting.com/
Watch out for viruses.
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I find the motorolas to be the biggest pain to deal with, though for the amount of people who can't work out how to get here to xda-developers and ask me to unlock their XDA or pass them a copy of the unlock software I should start charging them for my time, I already point them to donate links for the software but for the amount of times they say " I thought it had finished so I unplugged the phone, now it doesn't work, can you look at it?" I should bill them for not following instructions lol.
Though if I do (I won't charge for the s/w etc) I will donate something for every phone I repair lol, since the s/w and advice I use for the HTC phones is invariably from here.
I understand that currently it cannot be relocked on it has been unlocked. But I would like to know why if anyone knows?
Would it be possible in the future?
And is there anyone working on this now?
There is no real reason to want to work on figuring it out.
The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases.
So no good reason to re-lock, and thus no real reason for devs to work hard on figuring it out.
Mine can be
Obviously that doesn't help you much though. To be able to lock it again, you need to know how to set S-OFF, which is something that (as it stands) can't be done.
Just wondering but if HTC honors the warranty on a phone with unlocked bootloader, why do the 2 different guides to rooting say one will void warranty (unlocking bootloader) and one will preserve the warranty (the one-click app)?
By law HTC can refuse to support but they are supporting for some strange reason. The disclaimers are there to warn that HTC could stop supporting at any time if they see unlocked bootloaders.
I think re-locking the bootloader is quite possible... the only problem at this point is... we don't know how... it could be a software or hardware hook, but ATM, no one knows...
And I don't believe anyone is eagerly trying to find this since HTC seems to be honouring hardware warranty even with unlocked bootloaders...
It is the price of doing business
Once the boot-loader is unlocked you can do things to your phone like over-clock the cpu or run the flash at super-bright for hours. In other words, you can do things that could damage your phone that would not be HTC's fault ... therefore they shouldn't be held liable.
So instead of just locking the phone down like most of the phones out there, HTC/Google give you a choice: Stay stock or unlock with one command. If you choose to unlock they they don't have to honour their warranty because you could be doing bad things to your phone.
The fact that they give us the choice is one of the reasons I bought this phone. The fact that they are honouring the warranties even when you unlock is extra nice of them.
Long story short: Unlocking is a sign that you've been messing with your phone and that is all it is. It is irreversible by design and there is no reason to reverse it.
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
Rusty! said:
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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My money is on a special hardware device that HTC uses that force-flashes the entire rom on the phone. With out the special hardware, I am betting there is no way to do it.
But like others said, who cares. There is no point in putting effort in to something so irrelevant.
That's what I assumed, 'til I noticed my phone was S-OFF after being repaired.
Looks like something along those lines, just got my device back yesterday from having the power button fixed and its locked again. now that we have one click root i can now load CM6 without unlocking it again.
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...The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases...
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
Yeah thee only reason would be to cheat my warranty. but im glad to here that HTC has been honoring a lot of your guy's warranty's anyways.
To be honest a lot of manufactures dont fix the product, they just give you a new one anyways. so they made not even notice. right now im having a hardware issue with the trackball (i bought it on eBay :[ ) and i want to send it in but idk if i should??
mezhopking said:
They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
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Sorry to hear, for me it never came up as a question. With you, since both are broken they probably assumed it was caused by software and wrote you off.
I would say keep trying they should be at least let you send it in, and then let you know if it truly is out of your warranty and give you a price to fix.
New phone :d
Called HTC and got some of the best customer service of my life. Told them my trackball wasnt working properly anymore and they are sending me a brand new phone with next day shipping. Never asked once about it being unlocked.
So it seems as you guys are right, as long as it isnt an issue that could be caused my unlocking and messing with you phone they will still honor your warranty.
BEST THING THO...I get to keep the battery, and i bought my phone used for 450 and now im getting a brand new phone
Just so you know OP. I unlocked my Boot loader, but my phone had hardware problems. So I called them, they said they would send out a replacement, next day I cancelled it for reasons I am not going to get into detail over. Well they replacement arrived and my card hold was realized, so I got two nexus's Think I am going to call them and still send the bad one back anyways though.
Moral HTC is has superb warranty!
Can anyone recommend somewhere to unlock the X8 without having to take out a bank loan please?
Everywhere I have found so far costs a lot of money!
Any help appreciated! Thanks.
Komatoes said:
Can anyone recommend somewhere to unlock the X8 without having to take out a bank loan please?
Everywhere I have found so far costs a lot of money!
Any help appreciated! Thanks.
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If you can root it you can unlock too I think try to search in X10 forums not ahve big differences from x10 mini pro
Not every site does the X8 though even if they do the X10\mini. Maybe it's because it's a newer phone? $40 to unlock a phone is too much!
bitye said:
If you can root it you can unlock too I think try to search in X10 forums not ahve big differences from x10 mini pro
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bitye are you sure you can unlock it if you root the system? my wild guess is that the network lock trigger must be somewhere within the system, or at least the system can access it, therefore it pops up. does anyone know where this file can be found and how to edit it?
i've been searching the hell out of forums and never found any info relating to that. please share
I had my X8 unlocked by http://www.htccode.com/, was unlocked within 10 mins of payment
what network was your phone locked to?
did they send you software to unlock your phone with or did you send imei and they sent you an unlock code to enter
my phone was origionally locked to o2 - UK
did they send you software to unlock your phone with or did you send imei and they sent you an unlock code to enter?
basically they send you the software for the phone, but they do remote session you for a min, was a bit dubious at first but all was good
i tried that through someone else but didnt work and said remote dongle server not working, were you given credits to unlock? if so do you know how many you had/used to unlock?
they dealt with the unlock remotely, I just sat and waited till it was completed
well its worth a go for the price.
but i do advise u wait till online supports online, it cost me $40.00 USD initially see here http://www.htccode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3160
were they online today when you did it then?
it isnt working for me but then i only paid 20$ because thats the link i had, do u reckon i need to pay another 20$ to have a total of 30 credits?
they were online the night i done it, sorry i should have said that sooner, erm i'd suggest messaging them regaurding that, i'm sure you would be able to get it unlocked with the additional $20 :\
anyone know what the hours are for the live support on htc code?
For anyone in the UK
$40.00 USD = £25.1969 GBP at time of posting...
£25.82 through paypal to be more precise.
Hehe I have no idea get it unlocked in the end?
yeah should have it unlocked tomorrow, they sent me all the remote software stuff and all the login details, i'll report back tomorrow.
I have owned almost all nexus devices and some samsung, but i fall in love with the One. I read through some forum topics and the HTCDEV site and none of it was clear. If i unlock the bootloader all warrianty is void? I hope i am just misunderstood something. Unlocking the bootloader was never a problem with nexus or samsung devices why htc is making such a fuss about it? Please someone tell me i just misread stg.
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I have owned almost all nexus devices and some samsung, but i fall in love with the One. I read through some forum topics and the HTCDEV site and none of it was clear. If i unlock the bootloader all warrianty is void? I hope i am just misunderstood something. Unlocking the bootloader was never a problem with nexus or samsung devices why htc is making such a fuss about it? Please someone tell me i just misread stg.
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just like when you root warranty is void same with all manufactures
vick33 said:
I have owned almost all nexus devices and some samsung, but i fall in love with the One. I read through some forum topics and the HTCDEV site and none of it was clear. If i unlock the bootloader all warrianty is void? I hope i am just misunderstood something. Unlocking the bootloader was never a problem with nexus or samsung devices why htc is making such a fuss about it? Please someone tell me i just misread stg.
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I'm not sure about nexus, but I assure you it is exactly the same with Samsung. I have owned many Samsung phones in the past. Unlocking your bootloader, on practically any manufacturers device will void your warranty. The HTC One Development edition ships with an unlocked bootloader, maybe try that?
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just like when you root warranty is void same with all manufactures
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That is not true.
Nexus devices can be restored to factory settings with showing no signs of modifications. I have got nexus 7 replaced with faulty usb, and galaxy s3 with screen problems all had custom firmware before. Yes there you will have a yellow triangle, if you used no stock kernel, but you can easly remove that, going back to manufacturer state. And i asked asus if open bootloader is a problem for RMA as i cannot relock with the faulty usb they said why would it be?
sad to hear htc is different.. I want that one, but this is giving me second thoughts...
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That is not true.
Nexus devices can be restored to factory settings with showing no signs of modifications. I have got nexus 7 replaced with faulty usb, and galaxy s3 with screen problems all had custom firmware before. Yes there you will have a yellow triangle, if you used no stock kernel, but you can easly remove that, going back to manufacturer state. And i asked asus if open bootloader is a problem for RMA as i cannot relock with the faulty usb they said why would it be?
sad to hear htc is different.. I want that one, but this is giving me second thoughts...
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It is true. Just because you can revert it doesn't mean it's not originally voided. If say your LED screen died and you sent it for warranty and you had no way to run triangle away due to that and they saw it, you would be getting a bill.
The only way to save your warranty on this device is s-off and that's not yet available.
If you don't like it go to the Samsung S4 which has such a locked down bootloader only one dev has achieved it and still hasn't released how he did it. So no root at all over there.
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Your entire warranty is NOT voided due to unlocking or rooting. What DOES happen is your placed under more scrutiny and you have voided the warranty to things you can adversely affect.
For instance:
You rooted and your camera ceases to function or your LED flash dies. Your covered. I wouldn't recommend sending it in running a ROM, stock would ensure they can fix and test it.
Your rooted and your screen dies. You are covered.
Your rooted and the entire phone dies out of the blue. You would be under scrutiny regarding it and they would examine it to see if something you did caused the failure. If it is purely hardware related then you should be covered, otherwise your liable.
This same situation is what people who mod cars have had to fight against (and won). How does an exhaust modification cause a window failure? Or how does a custom head unit cause an engine failure.
There has to be a direct unarguable connection between your modification and the failure, I just had this happen with my Galaxy Nexus. It died completely and it was modified to high heaven. They knew it was unlocked but it wasn't the cause of the failure so it was fixed under warranty.
And BTW when you unlock your Nexus device it shows the exact same warning that the HTC unlocker software shows.
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And BTW when you unlock your Nexus device it shows the exact same warning that the HTC unlocker software shows.
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It does not true. Check the images i attached. And if you read through the google site on the nexus it does not say any connection between the warrianty and unlocking the bootloader. Seems like every htc owner thinks other manufacturers have the same policy on bootloaders...
and altimax98 i just read a thread that htc refused tu replace a screen with yellow spots because of unlocked bootloader here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
I would love the HTC One as it is the most beautiful device i have ever seen but to keep it stok to have warrianty...
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It does not true. Check the images i attached. And if you read through the google site on the nexus it does not say any connection between the warrianty and unlocking the bootloader. Seems like every htc owner thinks other manufacturers have the same policy on bootloaders...
and altimax98 i just read a thread that htc refused tu replace a screen with yellow spots because of unlocked bootloader here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
I would love the HTC One as it is the most beautiful device i have ever seen but to keep it stok to have warrianty...
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dude you need to do more research. samsung.htc.motorola.apple.lg,and google all say the same thing rooting,installing custom firmware, and unlocking bootloader may void warranty. if its not a manufacture defect they wont replace it. ive owned all of them and the message is always the same. it would be crazy for a company to sell you something with warranty and say do whatever you want with it and we will warranty for you
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dude you need to do more research. samsung.htc.motorola.apple.lg,and google all say the same thing rooting,installing custom firmware, and unlocking bootloader may void warranty. if its not a manufacture defect they wont replace it. ive owned all of them and the message is always the same. it would be crazy for a company to sell you something with warranty and say do whatever you want with it and we will warranty for you
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Um no it wouldn't. It would be crazy to sell a product and say you rooted that caused the defect. I have dealt with HTC and have sent many phones to them unlocked rooted with custom software and have not had any problem ever. Also please take a look at my signature had to make it to try and combat all the WRONG info out there. This is the USA we have rights when people care to inform themselves of them!
Also note how they always say "may void warranty" what they are really saying is if you do not know your rights we will be more than happy to screw you over as we are corporate and don't care about you at all.
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Um no it wouldn't. It would be crazy to sell a product and say you rooted that caused the defect. I have dealt with HTC and have sent many phones to them unlocked rooted with custom software and have not had any problem ever. Also please take a look at my signature had to make it to try and combat all the WRONG info out there. This is the USA we have rights when people care to inform themselves of them!
Also note how they always say "may void warranty" what they are really saying is if you do not know your rights we will be more than happy to screw you over as we are corporate and don't care about you at all.
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Exactly, they also use 'may void warranty' because there is no way they could make a comprehensive list of all the possible things that could void it. May is safety net of sorts to do exactly what nullkill said
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dude you need to do more research. samsung.htc.motorola.apple.lg,and google all say the same thing rooting,installing custom firmware, and unlocking bootloader may void warranty. if its not a manufacture defect they wont replace it. ive owned all of them and the message is always the same. it would be crazy for a company to sell you something with warranty and say do whatever you want with it and we will warranty for you
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So i am happy that HTC does not manufacure my notebook ... As i could not live without root acces as a developer And all say the same thing? Where do you get that info i just read through the Nexus 4 warrianty manual plus checked the unlock screen again and it never mentions that i loose warrianty with unlock not in the 106 pages of the manual not on the unlock sreen i cared to paste in the previous post of me. So i think i did my part of research... you did not.. check 46 do you see any mention of the bootloader? check the unlock screen i pasted in the last post of me? Do you see any mention of voiding my warrianty? I dont... So please point me out where it is stated that unlocking the nexus 4 bootloader voids the warrianty!
http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LGE960
And i am sad because of that "may" i am not sure they can lawfully say that. May is not specific. In a contract you cant use the word may...
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Um no it wouldn't. It would be crazy to sell a product and say you rooted that caused the defect. I have dealt with HTC and have sent many phones to them unlocked rooted with custom software and have not had any problem ever. Also please take a look at my signature had to make it to try and combat all the WRONG info out there. This is the USA we have rights when people care to inform themselves of them!
Also note how they always say "may void warranty" what they are really saying is if you do not know your rights we will be more than happy to screw you over as we are corporate and don't care about you at all.
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i dont think you understood what i was trying to say. i you do something that messes something up with the phone then its on you. if its something that fails on the phone that had nothing to do with custom software then they have to fix it. but you take the risk that if you brick it or something like that you foot the bill not the company.
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i dont think you understood what i was trying to say. i you do something that messes something up with the phone then its on you. if its something that fails on the phone that had nothing to do with custom software then they have to fix it. but you take the risk that if you brick it or something like that you foot the bill not the company.
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But as i read through lost of thread seems like this is not the case. Sometimes htc refuses to cover obious hardware defects because of unlocked bootloader.. Yes you can kill harware with software but it is not that easy... yes you can overclock and you can raise the voltage, but if there is too much heat the cpu will starts throttling or even reboot, yes you can overvrite the bootloader with 0-s etc etc, but a simple root should not void your warrianty as it does not do on a notebook. my phone is faster then my wifes netbook why i cannot "own" the two devices the same way, both have cellular data and everything... almost same devices on harware side.
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So i am happy that HTC does not manufacure my notebook ... As i could not live without root acces as a developer And all say the same thing? Where do you get that info i just read through the Nexus 4 warrianty manual plus checked the unlock screen again and it never mentions that i loose warrianty with unlock not in the 106 pages of the manual not on the unlock sreen i cared to paste in the previous post of me. So i think i did my part of research... you did not.. check 46 do you see any mention of the bootloader? check the unlock screen i pasted in the last post of me? Do you see any mention of voiding my warrianty? I dont... So please point me out where it is stated that unlocking the nexus 4 bootloader voids the warrianty!
http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LGE960
And i am sad because of that "may" i am not sure they can lawfully say that. May is not specific. In a contract you cant use the word may...
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obviously you didnt read this manual you just want to sound smart, but here it is right at the begining and both of your picks say something about voiding the warranty
Only authorized personnel should service the
phone and its accessories. Faulty installation
or service may result in accidents and
consequently invalidate the warranty.
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obviously you didnt read this manual you just want to sound smart, but here it is right at the begining and both of your picks say something about voiding the warranty
Only authorized personnel should service the
phone and its accessories. Faulty installation
or service may result in accidents and
consequently invalidate the warranty.
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I read and that is about hardware installation not software smart guy... i am not covered if i try to replace the screen at home... you clearly have problem of understanding written text. Read it more carefully out loudly then you may understand it
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i dont think you understood what i was trying to say. i you do something that messes something up with the phone then its on you. if its something that fails on the phone that had nothing to do with custom software then they have to fix it. but you take the risk that if you brick it or something like that you foot the bill not the company.
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Yes you are very correct.
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But as i read through lost of thread seems like this is not the case. Sometimes htc refuses to cover obious hardware defects because of unlocked bootloader.. Yes you can kill harware with software but it is not that easy... yes you can overclock and you can raise the voltage, but if there is too much heat the cpu will starts throttling or even reboot, yes you can overvrite the bootloader with 0-s etc etc, but a simple root should not void your warrianty as it does not do on a notebook. my phone is faster then my wifes netbook why i cannot "own" the two devices the same way, both have cellular data and everything... almost same devices on harware side.
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You can but people do not know and assert their rights. I don't bother telling HTC my devices are unlocked or rooted I just state the problem and steps I have taken to fix it like a factory reset or whatever. HTC and every other company would love to invalidate as many warranties as possible it saves them money but you have to know what your rights are to assert them. The idea that rooting or bootloader unlocking or changing software in any way voids warranty is just plain crazy and in the USA we are legally protected from such craziness.
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The idea that rooting or bootloader unlocking or changing software in any way voids warranty is just plain crazy and in the USA we are legally protected from such craziness.
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I feel the same way as an electrical and software engineer, but seems like it is a lottery and it they refuse to repair you can try to threaten them by telling them you will go to court, but that is not how it should work. And it is not how it is working with nexus devices as i can tell from my own experience. Thank you for your answers you seem like someone realy into this topic It made me a little less frustrated, but i still not know if i will jump on the htc bandwagon or not... I will try to contact the local htc service next week and will ask their opinion on the problem.
I think the keywords are "May void your warranty" so HTC can decide whether or not to cover you. I have had HTC devices and it's always a risk a person has to take with unlocking the bootloader. HTC using "May void your warranty" simple covers them, so it's up to them if they will cover it or not.
vick33 said:
I read and that is about hardware installation not software smart guy... i am not covered if i try to replace the screen at home... you clearly have problem of understanding written text. Read it more carefully out loudly then you may understand it
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really? it says nothing about hardware or software it just says installation which if you have ever dealt with contracts before its vague for a reason. i thought you started this thread for help in resolving something. seems to me that you already know everything and started this thread to boost your ego. not for help and opinions from other members who have dealt with these companys numerous times before.
vick33 said:
I feel the same way as an electrical and software engineer, but seems like it is a lottery and it they refuse to repair you can try to threaten them by telling them you will go to court, but that is not how it should work. And it is not how it is working with nexus devices as i can tell from my own experience. Thank you for your answers you seem like someone realy into this topic It made me a little less frustrated, but i still not know if i will jump on the htc bandwagon or not... I will try to contact the local htc service next week and will ask their opinion on the problem.
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I agree with you that it's crazy how these companies try and operate. On the Nexus side I am sure you can find reports of people sending in devices that were unlocked and them not honoring the warranty the thing that helped us (with samsung too) is we can remove all traces of what we did :highfive:. Which the fact we have to do that is a bit crazy. In a perfect world companies would honor consumer protection laws and they would be better enforced. I only know about this crap as I'm a cell phone addict longest I've had a device in the last 3 years is maybe 6 months I just can't help it. I'm trying to be good and stick with the ONE as HTC have always tended to be my favorite.
The reason I have faith in HTC is I sent a International HTC One X into HTC USA. First they didn't care it was a international model (try that with sammy and they will laugh at you). Second this was one of the very first One X's so it had the wifi/gps issue very very badly. It was originally a black unit but I didn't like that so I bought a white case and swapped it out. When doing that I discovered the attempted fixes to the wifi antenna. It looked like someone who was a hobbyist at best had solder little metal leads to make better contact with the antenna and it looked horrible. Well I sent that sucker in with the white case and what do you know HTC didn't say anything about the board being soldered on or the fact the case was white. I had told them the phone had been in for repair at carrier before and it helped but then the issue came back (I have no idea what happened to this phone as I was at least the 3rd person who it passed through it's now got a nice home with my friend still going perfect) and now it was acting up again. Not saying everyone will have this luck but if you are smart use your brain and know as much as possible it should help.
I had an issue with my Z3c where back of my phone unglued on a certain spot. Phone was under warranty so i sent it for repair.
They fixed the problem and by official Sony instrucions for repair centers they had to reflash my phone.
Surprisingly, my phone now says that bootloader is unlockable, and that there's no SIM lock limiting me to one provider.
Before it said that bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked and there were five SIM locks.
So my question is, can bootloader unlockability be changed by our precious developers?
If not, maybe we all should send our phones for repair.
lstic said:
I had an issue with my Z3c where back of my phone unglued on a certain spot. Phone was under warranty so i sent it for repair.
They fixed the problem and by official Sony instrucions for repair centers they had to reflash my phone.
Surprisingly, my phone now says that bootloader is unlockable, and that there's no SIM lock limiting me to one provider.
Before it said that bootloader is not allowed to be unlocked and there were five SIM locks.
So my question is, can bootloader unlockability be changed by our precious developers?
If not, maybe we all should send our phones for repair.
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Hehe congrats then I guess they unintentionally repaid you with an additional feature for your issues.
I dont think it can be done, but prove me wrong. Just wanted to congratulate you .
Thanks!
But obviously there is a way to do it, but they're keeping it a secret.
Is the IMEI the same? Sounds more likely that they give you a new phone or replaced the system board.
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Is the IMEI the same? Sounds more likely that they give you a new phone or replaced the system board.
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IMEI is the same, i double checked. As far as I can tell they replaced the screen (or digitizer), and the phone frame (scratches that it had are now gone). Repair documentation says that they replaced the touch unit and flashed the software.
Back is still scratched and in state as before I gave it for repair, but now it's not loose (that was the reason I gave it for repair).
No doubt that these values are stored in the TA and that a certain file could be flashed to change BL unlock-ability and remove simlock, we just don't have insight into what exactly to change. Now if you happen to have a TA backup from before the repair that could be compared to a post-repair version and might lead to the byte offsets of these flags within the TA.
Unfortunately I don't. At the time i sent it for repair the method for rooting with locked BL was not yet developed so I didn't even think about it.
But maybe some users could be guided by my case and do it before sending a phone for repair. In Croatia, there's only one place where Sony phones are sent and repaired under warranty, so the chances are great that it would happen to them too.
Have happened to my friend too but not on a Z3 Compact, but on a Original Xperia Z. He sent the phone in for repair and they replaced the camera, and they also unlocked both the simlock and bootloader restriction.
I believe they unlock the stuff by accident during their testing procedure, by using testpoints on the main board on the phone. So I don't think it is related to swaps of the actual board, but related to their diagnostics software.
is this what you mean?
my phone shows this...
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is this what you mean?
my phone shows this...
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Yes, if it says no then you can't unlock bootloader and flash custom kernels and therefore Cyanogen roms.
You can't change from yes to no or other way around by yourself, but obviously it's possible in Sony repair centers.
I sent my phone to agram service shop because of broken screen. They replaced it, front digitizer, side housing, and also back panel, but my bootloader is still locked.
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is this what you mean?
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if your device a D5833 or D5803?
lstic said:
Yes, if it says no then you can't unlock bootloader and flash custom kernels and therefore Cyanogen roms.
You can't change from yes to no or other way around by yourself, but obviously it's possible in Sony repair centers.
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A guy with xperia U (or something similar from that class) posted that with emails to the provider (and from them to Sony) you can get info how to make the bootloader to be unlockable. I also think it can be done and now I'm going to find out who works in the Sony service in my country and become friends with them just for that reason.
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is this what you mean?
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How did you access that screen? Is it under the settings menu?
PuffDaddy_d said:
How did you access that screen? Is it under the settings menu?
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In the dialer type *#*#7378423#*#* or to remember it in your head *#*#service#*#*
vikingsail said:
if your device a D5833 or D5803?
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Can you unlock D5833 BL? Cause My Z3c is D5833 and it can't be unlocked. :crying:
android167 said:
I sent my phone to agram service shop because of broken screen. They replaced it, front digitizer, side housing, and also back panel, but my bootloader is still locked.
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Did they flash your software too?
I guess they had to unlock the BL for installing new hw driver's of the new screen\touchpad. Maybe the denied status can't be recovered once opened?
chesterr said:
Can you unlock D5833 BL? Cause My Z3c is D5833 and it can't be unlocked. :crying:
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sorry i never tried this unlocking hack. I dont want to mess with my IMEI so... I hope you good luck.
My phone has replaced back glass, and now it says "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes"
What does this change for me?