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Wow I'm so sad, i was gone for a week or two and ......

I can't believe this, I left for a bit, went back to my xperia play.
put together a quick theme for my xperia play (it's so much easier to theme, it's already blue).
Then came back with my raider/vivid ready to work (xperia play is my daily now) and looks like pirategohst left, wildchild left. I'm so sad.
I was so ready to move from VJraiders rom to Pirategohost rom. but if development is dead why bother.
One thing i can say, this phone seems to not get much work on it like other devices, I have an xperia x1 (i know it's old), xperia x10, xperia play, htc evo 3d and all those devices are worked on daily. I know the raider is the newest device but....
Well enough with that, time to put to rest my raider and play with my evo 3d and play. all i need now is sony to release the xperia s and I'll be good.
Hey wildchild and pirateghost sad to see you leave and hope all is well, take care.
BYE BYE raider.
PM me if you want to make me an offer for my raider, it's from rogers.

Sad is right... I was about to buy a Raider/Vivid... But it looks as though the entire Dev community has decided to pull support... No sources, no links, no ROMS aside from Cyanogen and shipped?!?!
Sad scary day, I'll look around for XDA alternatives, but this makes me fairly upset, I've got a couple other androids at home, and there's a fair share of fighting on dev, but in the end it's about making a GOOD ROM, for yourself, and sharing it with a community... I can't fathom the flame wars that started in this forum.
Oh well, I'll wait for the HTC One series LOL

This was already a small dev community, and then the fact that a bunch of people wouldn't listen and bother taking the effort to try and read and really understand what they were doing meant they screwed up a very expensive device.
Oh well, everyone is already off to the One series.

ImWarped said:
Sad is right... I was about to buy a Raider/Vivid... But it looks as though the entire Dev community has decided to pull support... No sources, no links, no ROMS aside from Cyanogen and shipped?!?!
Sad scary day, I'll look around for XDA alternatives, but this makes me fairly upset, I've got a couple other androids at home, and there's a fair share of fighting on dev, but in the end it's about making a GOOD ROM, for yourself, and sharing it with a community... I can't fathom the flame wars that started in this forum.
Oh well, I'll wait for the HTC One series LOL
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WC has his own site with vivid ICS roms. The vivid forum doesnt show till you register, but they're there.
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Yo Hackit, you know... I'm gonna have an ICS ROM once the HBOOT for Bells/Rogers comes out.
And of course it's gonna be as good as my actual ROM

Theres always new dev that show up, be patient my friends =]

Hey vhjc, I might work on fixing the HTC sense issue I had. Or just upload and advise you need too use another launcher.
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Hey vhjc, I might work on fixing the HTC sense issue I had. Or just upload and advise you need too use another launcher.
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What sense issue you have?

vhjc said:
What sense issue you have?
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If i change the xml's in framework res it makes sense crash after the first boot. this is what caused me to set my xperia play back up, I need a daily phone.
then i was going to try and fix what was causing the issue. i needed to be able to flash and reflash each time i mod the apk's.
Funny thing is, my raider is the fastest phone i have right now and the more i use my xperia play i really miss the speed of a dual core cpu.

creasy425 said:
WC has his own site with vivid ICS roms. The vivid forum doesnt show till you register, but they're there.
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What's his website?
sent from my Vivid floating in rum using tapatalk premium.

hackit said:
If i change the xml's in framework res it makes sense crash after the first boot. this is what caused me to set my xperia play back up, I need a daily phone.
then i was going to try and fix what was causing the issue. i needed to be able to flash and reflash each time i mod the apk's.
Funny thing is, my raider is the fastest phone i have right now and the more i use my xperia play i really miss the speed of a dual core cpu.
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Do you get the apk from the dist folder after building it on apktools? Or are you replacing the res folder on the original apk file?

vhjc said:
Do you get the apk from the dist folder after building it on apktools? Or are you replacing the res folder on the original apk file?
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I use the apk in your rom, then run it in apktools, then recompile with no errors.
I did not have an issue with version 2 of you rom.
But just to be clear, the apk's i theme are all from your rom, thats why they wouldn't work in any other rom.

They're all around if you know where to look. WC is on his own site, and I saw Pghost post on that site about obtaining and possibly porting the Endeavor RUU. Cm9 development is paused until we get kernel sources from HTC, so not all is lost. It just requires patience.

mrakifa said:
What's his website?
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Check WC'sSig. Click on "my site", it'll take right to it.
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I really don’t care what happens to the Vivid anymore since the HTC One X and the Galaxy SIII should be out in a month or two. I’m sure those two beasts will have a ton of developer support. I guess next time I’ll make sure to get a more popular phone even though I think the Vivid is one of the best LTE phones that AT&T has.

Samsung or LG?

Recently I had some problems with my rooted SGA, it restarts constantly because of the RAM I think, it heated constantly without having the charger plugged every 10 minutes, its slow with every game and some apps.
Yesterday a friend told me that his LG Optimus One didn't heated anytime, it was very fast, and it never rebooted itself and he didn't had any problem with it,
What smartphone brand is better?
Samsung or LG
Or if you think another one is better than this two ones, tell me your reasons please, because im thinking seriously about changing my smartphone (Android) and phone company... (México Telcel, its very expensive...)
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Sammy is better (to me)...
You can just set your cpu to 480-806 govenor: SmartAZZv2/performance
Install chainfire 3d
Add a script like adrenilline engine/slaidy boost

Sony! I'm planning to get a Xperia Acro S soon...

yeowwwai said:
Sony! I'm planning to get a Xperia Acro S soon...
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+1 Sony
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Yah I agree with him ^^^
GO get SONY ! Great Support ..
If you still want Samsung, then go get their High-End Devices coz if not, you'll get a crappy support (like everyone's experiencing right now) .. they are known for that anyway ..
About LG, never tried it yet ..

For me it's either HTC or Sony.

My preference is Samsung. LG has the worst and ugliest interface I have ever seen but touchwiz is better!
And LG copies Samsung in many aspects. It does not have good software also.

Samsung.
If you have
-random restarts you need to change rom, haha
-slow ace, uninstall crap apps
Keep youre device clean and only with few apps if u want it for games.

Shadow xD said:
For me it's either HTC or Sony.
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Yeah HTC if you get rid of sense, not a big fan of it but hardware wise HTC are good.
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Htc or sony
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Well from my experience, used all of them i guess
1. Samsung--- only go for high end phones. for lower end phones, support sucks. Though service centers are great and that way support is good.
2.LG--- Same as samsung. Update wise sucks but service wise sucks too
3.HTC-- Great UI. But customer support sucks
4.Sony-- Great UI. Good hardware. Best on updates. Service support good. ****

Okay, thanks for all your opinions, it seems i will change to sony but what model do you recomend to me? a good phone but not expensive like an ace's price?
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ChaosT97 said:
Okay, thanks for all your opinions, it seems i will change to sony but what model do you recomend to me? a good phone but not expensive like an ace's price?
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Ray or neo/neo V or sola maybe
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yeowwwai said:
Sony! I'm planning to get a Xperia Acro S soon...
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Good for you mate! The arc S is sooooo awesome. But I'll probably never get it
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ChaosT97 said:
Okay, thanks for all your opinions, it seems i will change to sony but what model do you recomend to me? a good phone but not expensive like an ace's price?
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The Xperia Ray is pretty good, 1 Ghz Qualcomm, 100 g, around the same price, all the above mentioned things about sony phones, better battery life, unreal pixel density compared to our ace and an 8 MP camera to top it off. In Singapore, unlocked it's about $50-80 more expensive than the ace so it's about $350++ Singapore dollars, about $300 USD estimated. It's pretty darn good for it's price.

Try to go for the latest nxt series by sony. I hope xperia sola will fit in price range or xperia P
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I'm planning to get Sony Xperia Acro S.
For your preferred range device, I would recommend the Sony Xperia Sola!

galaxyace152 said:
My preference is Samsung. LG has the worst and ugliest interface I have ever seen but touchwiz is better!
And LG copies Samsung in many aspects. It does not have good software also.
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+1
lg never creates sth itself.
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Hey, if I were you I'd choose samsung.. More developers supporting samsung here in xda lol and easier to mod samsung phones

aspakrian said:
..More developers supporting samsung here in xda lol and easier to mod samsung phones
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+1
if i want to buy new phone in the future, i'll check the xda support first..

although i'm using samsung now.. i think sony is better..

Buyer needs advice

Hi guys, I think there is quite an unbelievable offer for Austria Hutchinson users. Basically you get this phone for 69€ on a 20€ x 24 months contract. With the contract you get also 1000 minutes 1000 SMS and Internet unlimited so should be fine. Before I saw that I thought of sticking to my galaxy s for a while.
Now that said I would love to take it as long as the offer lasts, but I am concerned about 3 things:
a) i am a custom Rom user since 2 years. Never been on stock again. And I looooooove cyanogenmod! Do you think there will be custom roms for this?
b) the camera quality. While I'm not too much concerned about the video quality, I use my phone as a compact camera outside to take pictures. So how bad is it in your opinion? And do you think will it improve with upcoming updates?
c) you know something about the possibility of unlocking this phone?
I guess probably I'm asking too much but maybe someone knows better.
Thanks in advance!
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suriya83 said:
a) i am a custom Rom user since 2 years. Never been on stock again. And I looooooove cyanogenmod! Do you think there will be custom roms for this?
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I would think so. It just got rooted and CM10 develoeprs are already playing with it asfaik.
suriya83 said:
b) the camera quality. While I'm not too much concerned about the video quality, I use my phone as a compact camera outside to take pictures. So how bad is it in your opinion? And do you think will it improve with upcoming updates?
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It's only an okay camera, there's better, the Galaxy 3 has a better one for instance, not by that much, but clearly. No idea if this is a hardware limitation, but I'd guess so.
suriya83 said:
c) you know something about the possibility of unlocking this phone?
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No idea ... but I guess with root you should be able to do more or less anything,e specially, once CWM etc are there? But I'm no pro.

We have root and CWM now, devs are working on CM10 and 4.0.4 Sense 4.1, so soon we'll have great ROMs :laugh:
And i think we'll have unlocked bootloader soon too.

Hey guys,
This phone looks really cool. I was thinking of buying this phone. I want a phone that can get rooted and a lot of ROMs. Do u think Im in the right place?
I have read a lot of reviews and from what I can gather is that this phone is a tad better than the One X and a loses the battle just barely vs the GS3.
What do you guys think? What are the pros and cons of this phone?
Also which is better looking? The white or black model?
Thanks in advance guys!
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gabo_e30 said:
Hey guys,
This phone looks really cool. I was thinking of buying this phone. I want a phone that can get rooted and a lot of ROMs. Do u think Im in the right place?
I have read a lot of reviews and from what I can gather is that this phone is a tad better than the One X and a loses the battle just barely vs the GS3.
What do you guys think? What are the pros and cons of this phone?
Also which is better looking? The white or black model?
Thanks in advance guys!
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which is better looking? The white or black model? To each his own, both are nice, tough decision for me when I bought mine and finally picked the white one.

gabo_e30 said:
Hey guys,This phone looks really cool. I was thinking of buying this phone. I want a phone that can get rooted and a lot of ROMs. Do u think Im in the right place?
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You might want to bother to read the postings just before yours.
gabo_e30 said:
Also which is better looking? The white or black model?
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You shall like the white one. Also, your favorite food is grilled chicken, and you'll only drink root beer. Also, move to Mumbai, which is your favorite city from now on. Any other totally personal decisions you can't make I'm happy to answer, too.

Hey thanks dude!
I was asking because I've never owned anything but Motorola Androids and they have locked bootloaders. Ive never seen this phone in person and the reviews online only show the white one, so I asked here for this awesome community's opinion...
Also I like grilled chicken but prefer steak. Hate root beer, and if I lived anywhere it would be 'MERICA. Ill be sure to visit Mumbai sometime though maybe we can have a beer together.
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Is LG policy still suck and unreliable? Since the older models like O2X said to not get ICS!
Yesterday I saw it in the market ,and it has the same price as HOX , I saw some comparison which end by no winner, yet the HOX really has a good support by both the company & xda community ,so from a fear comparison aspect ,which yr choice in case of : screen,camera quality and shutter speed ,video quality(some said its better in the OneX even with has low fps compared to O4X! ), and battery, thx ahead
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This is not an answering machine...
Personally, I chose the LG because it has exchangable battery and micro SD slot. They both have Tegra 3 and good displays, so it's no big difference hardware-wise. HTC has a large fanbase, so you'll have more custom roms on the HOX, plus the possibility to unlock your bootloader with HTCdev. LG might learn and do something similar, but as they're not open in saying what they do, no one can tell.

I was checking on eBay yesterday cuz I want a LG O4X and saw there was a developer version kinda like the Razr has one too... can anyone confirm this?
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Hello all. What about temerature of subject's surface when it's CPU 100% loaded?

White Nexus 4 is finally official

As if we didn't already know
LG Press Release

Thanks 4 this interesting new!!
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Black nexus 4 is sexier in my opinion

that's a panda not nexus my black one was soo better well before i sold it

Black is definitely sexier.
Though, I also read that LG won't make another nexus..

or change the backcover of my nexus to white would be cool ( mines already broke )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Black is definitely sexier.
Though, I also read that LG won't make another nexus..
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Isn't currently making one. Not never making one again.

I was thinking of getting it for a long time now, upgrading from my white Gnex. However, the HTC one is looking mighty fine as well. Sense 5.0 vs Stock... Not pulling a trigger, just yet.

gideonMorrison said:
I was thinking of getting it for a long time now, upgrading from my white Gnex. However, the HTC one is looking mighty fine as well. Sense 5.0 vs Stock... Not pulling a trigger, just yet.
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it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon

Blackwolf10 said:
it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon
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Except the S4 looks horrible and has the worst colors, looney tunes style. So it's either N4 with stock or HTC One with Sense 5, which feels and looks a lot like stock android. The Google version of the One will feel like a Nexus phone, obviously. I usually hate OEM skins, but Sense 5.0 I could definitely live with.

Blackwolf10 said:
it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon
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But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.

gideonMorrison said:
Except the S4 looks horrible and has the worst colors, looney tunes style. So it's either N4 with stock or HTC One with Sense 5, which feels and looks a lot like stock android. The Google version of the One will feel like a Nexus phone, obviously. I usually hate OEM skins, but Sense 5.0 I could definitely live with.
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i think specs wise it's the best though it looks like a frog
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facetubespam said:
But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.
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it's for 850$ here but the specs beside the camera which i didn't like are awesome so that's the point of a stock one if u don't like sense get the stock one
and facebook phone really ?? might just get a galaxy s2 and flash latest CM10.1 is a better idea

Does mean we might see 4.3 soon?

TopazUser1 said:
Does mean we might see 4.3 soon?
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no just tells us we can have a panda like phone this reminds me of iphone 3G
but 4.3 we will get it soon cause it was expected

Nospin said:
Isn't currently making one. Not never making one again.
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No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569

D4rkSoRRoW said:
No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569
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No: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/28/4...id-tablet-announcement-non-android-smartphone

D4rkSoRRoW said:
No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569
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No. CEO came out and said he was misquoted, and of course they would be happy to work with Google again.
So there.

It looks awful in white because there are too many black parts. That's the issue I have with most phone manufacturers that aren't Nokia. They never go "all-in" with their phone designs. They just half-ass it, including Apple.
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What an eyesore! I guess they bringing ugly back....smh
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facetubespam said:
But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.
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I'm assuming the hardware will be the same, so you could just flash a sense ROM?
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[Q] Why is Incredible S CPU msm7x30?

Hey there!
I have just received a vivo, and I would like to develop for it. The phone's specs state that vivo is msm8255, but when I look into the device tree of the phone, the ROMs use msm7x30 platform. Can someone please explain this to me?
Also, does anyone know the name of chips in vivo. This is a very hard thing to find. For example, the bluetooth is BCM4329.
If no one has this information then it is alright, but I would like to my first question answered.
Thank You. :good:

rqmok said:
Hey there!
I have just received a vivo, and I would like to develop for it. The phone's specs state that vivo is msm8255, but when I look into the device tree of the phone, the ROMs use msm7x30 platform. Can someone please explain this to me?
Also, does anyone know the name of chips in vivo. This is a very hard thing to find. For example, the bluetooth is BCM4329.
If no one has this information then it is alright, but I would like to my first question answered.
Thank You. :good:
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You should PM Szeszo on this stuff. He is our main developer and has been pretty much our only developer for almost half a year now. He knows this device inside out

100% same chipset as the 7x30 devices, our 8255 is essentially an overclocked 7x30 like on desire z
That's why desire z has same chipset as us
Bcm 4329 is WiFi too, but bcmdhd is used for AOSP and sense 4 which is ported from One V or latest prima
Wikipedia has some good information
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Why is it so important? As poondog said, our CPU just an msm7x30 on higher clock. But we have that CPU's board name, why? Qualcomm knows... Like the MSM8225 and MSM8625Q (dual and quad-core Cortex-A5 CPUs) has msm7x27a board names. Why? Qualcomm knows...
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Hi everyone, im new here and my incredible s is msm7230 i had root the device and get no problem at all.
And now s KK 4.4. Battery last more then 24 hrs.Thanks to Szezso.
Send from HTC Incredible S-*Vivokat 4.4.2 - TESCO-Minimal kernel 3.6.7 (3.0.86, ION)-Radio- 3831.18.00.28_M

Can we just call it Bill for simplicity kthxbye
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OK guys. Thanks for your time.
One last question: Is there a 3.4 kernel for vivo?

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OK guys. Thanks for your time.
One last question: Is there a 3.4 kernel for vivo?
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Lol
Nah not a proper one
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poondog said:
Lol
Nah not a proper one
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Not a proper one? Where can I find its source?

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Not a proper one? Where can I find its source?
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Closed source
nah jk it was my april fools joke by the sounds of it you missed out
Just noticed you're an Aussie too, gday

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Closed source
nah jk it was my april fools joke by the sounds of it you missed out
Just noticed you're an Aussie too, gday
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Alright, I'll look into the 3.4 kernel development myself.
Gday to you too my Aussie brother from another mother

rqmok said:
Alright, I'll look into the 3.4 kernel development myself.
Gday to you too my Aussie brother from another mother
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good luck with that we have been looking at it for MONTHS
haha so you are in Adelaide, the most boring city?

poondog said:
good luck with that we have been looking at it for MONTHS
haha so you are in Adelaide, the most boring city?
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This is off topic, but...
Yes, Adelaide is a boring city. Nothing here to look at (can only look at myself in the mirror)
But what I do like about Adelaide is that it is a planned city; it is very hard to get lost here (even if someone tells you to get lost). When I went to Sydney, I got lost, because the roads aren't straight forward. I've also visited Melbourne, but I didn't like it, because the city there is too tight; the roads are very small, and the trams on the road take up too much space. But Melbourne kind of reminds me of my home country (Pakistan).
By the way, I do know somewhat about kernel development. I have tried to port a 3.4 kernel to a previous device, and I got the kernel to boot, but I coudn't get the ROM to boot. The phone died really quickly and now I cannot fully port the 3.4 kernel to it anymore, however someone else with the same device has already ported it, and I know how he did it. So, I am going to try it with vivo. But, I won't gurantee success.

rqmok said:
This is off topic, but...
Yes, Adelaide is a boring city. Nothing here to look at (can only look at myself in the mirror)
But what I do like about Adelaide is that it is a planned city; it is very hard to get lost here (even if someone tells you to get lost). When I went to Sydney, I got lost, because the roads aren't straight forward. I've also visited Melbourne, but I didn't like it, because the city there is too tight; the roads are very small, and the trams on the road take up too much space. But Melbourne kind of reminds me of my home country (Pakistan).
By the way, I do know somewhat about kernel development. I have tried to port a 3.4 kernel to a previous device, and I got the kernel to boot, but I coudn't get the ROM to boot. The phone died really quickly and now I cannot fully port the 3.4 kernel to it anymore, however someone else with the same device has already ported it, and I know how he did it. So, I am going to try it with vivo. But, I won't gurantee success.
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Yeah haha fair enough it's boring
@szezso has tried but there are like no similar devices with a working 3.4.Y kernel so it's a bit hard.. working with like only one similar 3.4.Y device haha
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poondog said:
Yeah haha fair enough it's boring
@szezso has tried but there are like no similar devices with a working 3.4.Y kernel so it's a bit hard.. working with like only one similar 3.4.Y device haha
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What's that similar device?

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What's that similar device?
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ZTE Warp
msm7x30

OK. I have started. Wish me luck!