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Allright guys,
I hate to do this, but I'm sick of getting flipped off and getting broken promises from HTC. If I wanted those, I'd just get into another relationship with what seems to be a nice girl at a bar. I've sent in more than 9 hand written letters and countless emailed ones. I've made the proverbial ****-ton loads of phone calls. And all this through my own, free time. And I know that I'm not the only one. There is an army of people here who've written, pleased, asked politely and signed a petition. We've lambasted through what seems to be HTC's "cover fire" on the issue. After being dicked around, I didn't want a politically correct and savvy response to the issue that tells me nothing at all. For the money I paid, I wanted the basics. What, When, Where, Why. What was the problem? When Will it Be Resolved? Why has this been overlooked? If I can't get away from my girlfriend with a politically correct and savvy response to the issue of why I spent $700 on a new phone, then I don't believe HTC can use that ploy either.
Yea we've all heard this rant before, but I'm sick of this. If **** doesn''t change soon, I'm taking my business and my accounts elsewhere. It's sad when I have to degrade myself to think about rebuying the iphone. But hell even if we all know the iphone doesn't have all the features the tilt does, at least IT DOES WHAT IT'S PROMISED TO DO. No Smoke and mirrors. No concise and no business response. It just does what it's supposed to do out of the box.
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
P.S. And for all those who say this is a Business Device, not an entertainment device: As a business user, it's pretty damn hard to tell a client "HOLD ON, I NEED TO SWITCH TO LANDSCAPE MODE" or "GIMME A FEW MORE SECS TO SHOW YOU THIS EXCEL SHEET. WAIT, IT'S LOADING. ALMOST...." Even us business users are getting pissed off.
And, again, I hate the iphone, but how many of them do you see complaining because their device doesn't do an advertised feature? Or is misadvertised?
I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.
yes i agree at first i was im love with my tilt but when my video recording capabilities sucked arse and simple things like scrolling while playing music makes the device lag now u know its a problem ive hear dof frigging wizards playing games better than this and they tote this as it being the most powerful windows device out but i was still gonna buy another htc product but once they released that statement im like are u serious this sis ur answer not even a "u can buy 4 more apps for 20 bucks" like steve jobbs is doing i mean i wouldve at least appreciated that but i think i might go to the tytn or the iphone they deliver on wat is promised
My next phone will probably going to be an iPhone once they release a 3G version of it. I miss my 8525
xmoo said:
I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.
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I-mate is switiching manufactoring back to HTC, in essence it is just an HTC with I-mate branding. Hopefully they will support their devices with all the adequate software and updates, unlike HTC.
Infornography said:
Allright guys,
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
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What do you mean "may"? I have absolutely excluded it. After all this mockery and arrogance from HTC, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if I EVER went and bought another one of their devices, at ANY point in the future.
Ok guys, I need a bunch of good opinions real fast like. I'm shopping for a new tilt online. Yea, I'd love to buy a REAL TYTN II but I don't have that kind of money to throw around right now. I figure that you are paying more for a name, some different paint, a camera and that's about it. So an att tilt will just have to do. I can always flash the firmware to the latest htc spec. So, with all that in mind I need to know what I should do. I've been looking on ebay and they have used tilts for around 250-350 dollars. They are all in good condition... they say, and come with everything. I'm thinking about buying one of these "slightly used" ones, assuming they really are just that. OR I can buy a brand new tilt, fresh out of the box for around 400-450 dollars and know that no one else has touched it. Money is kinda tight, but I don't want this breaking on me either, it's got to last a long while. New or used? Appreciate it. SPACE
1) Line breaks are your friend.
2) If you are going to buy used, just make sure you get some kind of warranty to cover you in the event of hardware failure. Squaretrade sells warranty that cover everything short of losing your device, and AT&T offers insurance for $5/mo that will replace lost/stolen devices. Of course you need to be an AT&T customer for that last option.
AT&T is also selling refurb Tilts for $149 right now, but that requires a 2 year contract.
I just love these threads. Why should I buy "x"? The UTLIMATE reason to buy ANYTHING is because "YOU WANT TO!"
If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it. But if looking at the information gets you excited, then you should buy it.
Anything Treo, Myself, or anyone else says is secondary. Only you can look at something and know that is what you want.
jimmy is that post stuck on your clipboard right now? SPDT(same post different thread) the only difference is the name on the last line.
btw i think that is the greatest quote ever
"If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it."
to the op, don't do a refurbished phone with att, my original stopped working and they have sent 5 to me, 3 with broken USB ports, 1 broken screen, and one without a working radio, plus that last one wasn't recognized by my comp if it was in bootloader
I think you should buy both...used and new... and then see which one you like better. Which ever one you do not like, put in in a blender and make a video of it being shreaded and then upload it to YouTube and then we can all watch it. FANTASTIC! THANKS FOR THE THREAD!
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I just love these threads. Why should I buy "x"? The UTLIMATE reason to buy ANYTHING is because "YOU WANT TO!"
If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it. But if looking at the information gets you excited, then you should buy it.
Anything Treo, Myself, or anyone else says is secondary. Only you can look at something and know that is what you want.
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dude, I've wanted a phone like this before they even existed, ever since I was a kid watching star trek (old and new), I've had a boner for this phone for ages! My question really is should I buy used and save some money? I don't know because I don't know how reliable the phones can be... so, I thought I'd ask. This is my uber phone fcol! For now anyways...
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dude, I've wanted a phone like this before they even existed, ever since I was a kid watching star trek (old and new), I've had a boner for this phone for ages! My question really is should I buy used and save some money? I don't know because I don't know how reliable the phones can be... so, I thought I'd ask. This is my uber phone fcol! For now anyways...
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If that's the case you do not want sloppy seconds. When it comes to my Device Addiction I must have New.
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If that's the case you do not want sloppy seconds. When it comes to my Device Addiction I must have New.
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Same here, with only a few exceptions. Phones however, must be new and free of anyone else's "cooties" before I stick it up to my ear.
NEW NEW NEW, the one year warranty is priceless to me.
alright well I'm probably going to buy a new one but I'm not going to buy it from the att store. 500+ is too much for something that is going to drop in price asap. I'll buy a new one in the box off ebay unless you guys know where I can get one cheaper.
Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
TheYetti1 said:
Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
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The risk you take with a cheap "chinese" device is that it most likely won't receive any support. If nobody wants to buy it, and the manufacturer can't be found it's unlikely anybody other than yourself would be interested in trying to modify the firmware.
On the same point, the good manufacturers (Samsung, HTC etc) build decent mechanisms into their devicies to allow firmware upgrades, wheras cheap devices can be hit and miss.
Essentially, I would say that if you were to buy a cheap one such as that, you will be lucky to even get a root, but I wouldn't expect anything more.
Long story short, you want a good device, don't waste money on cheap junk, fork out for a GTab and get the real deal.
I tend to agree. "You get what you pay for" is definitely true in this case.
If what you want is a learning project, something to actually just "experiment" with, then yeah, some of the cheaper ones might not be a terrible idea. I learned a lot of the stuff I know from modifying some of the much cheaper devices (Velocity Micro Cruz Reader/Tablet). They were a good way to get into the swing of flashing new firmwares, modifying source code, etc.
That said, what it sounds like, is that you actually want a useful device, you just want it to be modded 'just so', for what you intend to use it for. If you want a GOOD device, that you actually intend to use for things like GPS, then I would have to say, avoid the cheap ones. They are usually buggy, updates are infrequent, and they just don't perform as well. Plus, there will be far less people working on them, so less people to provide assistance if you get stuck.
If you want a fast car that doesn't give you a lot of problems, buy a brand new Mustang.
If you want a cheap project, a way to learn about fixing and repairing cars, buy an 15 year old Geo Metro.
It all depends on what you're biggest priority is. The Galaxy Tab is a very solid, fast device, and has tons of potential for customization. If you intend to 'use' it (do something other than experiment) then I'd say this is the way to go.
I bought one of those cheap chinese tablets a few months ago, and I can honestly say I got what I paid for.
Poor screen, poor battery life, no support, no upgrades, no kernel source.
My advice - don't bother! I gave mine to my brother to use as a browser/media player, and he's happy with it, but for your requirements, I wouldn't bother.
Regards,
Dave
Just ran into this on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nook-Color-SD-card-rooting-program-Installed-/160524547022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25600233ce
Whoever bought that card must be insane...
....and the other auction for$ 350 for a rooted Nook Color.
Preying on other peoples ignorance is not a very nice trait unfortunately there are always some people who will try to take advantage of others for profit.
Maybe we should spam the listings!
LOL The same or similar happened when the Pandigital Novel was rooted.
Perhaps the same guy who is selling it on youtube ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etVMRwn_PnY&feature=related
and he is running all this from microSD
http://www.youtube.com/user/xboxexpert#p/u/0/DyNllv7TPXs
I dunno, I rooted my friends NC and he insisted on paying me. I did it right even wrote some new batch scripts to mod the system apps for him. He was so stoked and dazzled that he would not take no for an answer. Finally settled for a good bottle of Hennessy. I definitely made out on the deal, but he is really happy. I don't think it is necessarily preying on ppls ignorance, some ppl just don't want to be bothered. I know how to change my oil but I still take my cars to a shop to have it done. Just saying.
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I see your point I guess but think some ppl do take the piss
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I dunno, I rooted my friends NC and he insisted on paying me. I did it right even wrote some new batch scripts to mod the system apps for him. He was so stoked and dazzled that he would not take no for an answer. Finally settled for a good bottle of Hennessy. I definitely made out on the deal, but he is really happy. I don't think it is necessarily preying on ppls ignorance, some ppl just don't want to be bothered. I know how to change my oil but I still take my cars to a shop to have it done. Just saying.
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I won't deny that, ppl let themselves get taken everyday. But if u get f**ked and walk away with a smile... you still feel good.
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LOL!
Too funny
monsterpt said:
I dunno, I rooted my friends NC and he insisted on paying me. I did it right even wrote some new batch scripts to mod the system apps for him. He was so stoked and dazzled that he would not take no for an answer. Finally settled for a good bottle of Hennessy. I definitely made out on the deal, but he is really happy. I don't think it is necessarily preying on ppls ignorance, some ppl just don't want to be bothered. I know how to change my oil but I still take my cars to a shop to have it done. Just saying.
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I can understand that, but in this case someone is selling programs that were made to be free..
Look on craigslist in any city, there are people advertising iPhone jailbreaking for $30 a pop.
Rooting is a pretty simple process, but some people are scared of anything involving modding and if they're willing to pay for it, why can't someone sell it to them?
It certainly wasn't me, and I wouldn't recommend anyone I know to pay for it, but they have a right to sell and the buyers have a right to buy.
Are they selling the programs though or the skills to do it that is the issue really. I rooted a friends for no charge. If someone offers as a thanks then fine but ya selling what is effectively someone elses work blows. Maybe they were part of the team working on it they deserve the$ $$ maybe this guy will donate eh
It was relisted so I don't think anyone was dumb enough to pay money for it.
I think he is just selling microSD cards so this can be re-listed many times over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNllv7TPXs
you can also purchase direct
http://thexboxexpert.com/index.php?/custom-parts.xprt
He is member here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=557282
lifeisfun said:
I think he is just selling microSD cards so this can be re-listed many times over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNllv7TPXs
you can also purchase direct
http://thexboxexpert.com/index.php?/custom-parts.xprt
He is member here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=557282
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What a douchenozzle. First he clones information and claims its his, now he's SELLING NOOT on ebay. He better be contributing back to the salting effort or other things.
hum
lets see the way ebay treats sellers all this guy has to do is root his NC then file a claim stating card does not work as intended or is faulty ebay /paypal will then issue refund after he sends it back .
then think who really got screwed
nookroot said:
lets see the way ebay treats sellers all this guy has to do is root his NC then file a claim stating card does not work as intended or is faulty ebay /paypal will then issue refund after he sends it back .
then think who really got screwed
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From the youtube videos his customers are clueless about it, and think its his "product".
khaytsus said:
What a douchenozzle. First he clones information and claims its his, now he's SELLING NOOT on ebay. He better be contributing back to the salting effort or other things.
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If this is the guy then he is a real jackass as he was the guy on the original remove cell standby thread claiming that the original poster had copied the instructions from somewhere.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10097206&postcount=7
The irony of it is staggering. At least the poster was not trying to making a quick buck off the work of others.
I'm looking for a tablet and I was wondering if there is anything cheap out there that's is worth having. I don't want a complete POS, but I don't want to spend $400 neither. I'm just looking for something to take to work and watch some netflix on or browse the net. Also, if it can be rooted, even better.
I was just about to start a similar thread. I am looking for feedback on different tabs since I'm trying to decide what to get.
I like the fact that the Acer A500 has a usb port into which an external drive can be connected. I was wondering if any others have that. I also like the look of the Asus Transformer, but I've read that the build quality was less-than-ideal. Weight is also a concern for me, since I have arthritis in my hands.
Thoughts?
yeah well see what kind of info we get back. I may just go with a HP touchpad and see where it takes us in terms of android.
Im thinking the same thing as you guys.
Im gonna shop around for a good second hand deal, the likely candidates so far are the touchpad, the acer already mentioned or the advent vega.
If I could find a xoom at a bargain price I'd be pretty tempted too.
yeah I found a XOOM locally for 250 they say brand new on CL. I really dont trust CL but if I see it in person, and it works.. that might seal the deal.
Id really like android on mine ASAP, and that would lean me to the XOOM more so than the TP.. But only in due time IMO for the TP.