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Ok. So there are plenty of apps in the market, of course, but very few are exclusive and optimized for honeycomb because its so new. The Xoom should have came with more of its "own" apps pre-installed imo. Anyways, we've got CNN, the Human Body, Pulse, Youtube, some games, and probably others. And every app in the market will run on Honeycomb mostly, but I would like to hear some suggestions, comments, and concerns about what apps are great, and what we expect to see months from now. Sorry, if this topic has been posted before. I just want to hear some honest feedback about the Xoom/Honeycomb apps. Please share the what's recommended and what's just essential to our beloved Xoom.
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Ok. So there are plenty of apps in the market, of course, but very few are exclusive and optimized for honeycomb because its so new. The Xoom should have came with more of its "own" apps pre-installed imo. Anyways, we've got CNN, the Human Body, Pulse, Youtube, some games, and probably others. And every app in the market will run on Honeycomb mostly, but I would like to hear some suggestions, comments, and concerns about what apps are great, and what we expect to see months from now.
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Maybe also include "list of apps that don't work well with Honeycomb."
But for the most part, they all work, some just look a little weird (like facebook) or something doesn't show up right (like the lasers in HexDefense).
Good:
Gun Bros works great on the Xoom. Fruit Ninja THD works flawlessly. Google Earth
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Unblock me; CNN sometimes doesn't display stuff, I have no idea why. And Google Body likes to crash too, but sometimes will work completely fine.
I haven't gotten too many "duplicate" apps - in other words, if I have them on my phone but rarely use them, I'll just keep it on the phone. But if it's something I'm going to be using just as much on the Xoom as my EVO, then I downloaded it. I just haven't gotten around to getting a ton of apps yet.
Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you about how some apps that are rarely used on my phone have no point of being on the xoom. I really haven't delve into my xoom that much either because im anal and waiting for my screen protectors. Lol. But I installed the common ones like root explorer which is a necessity in my opinion, and wordsmith! I love that friggin game! When I start using my Xoom religiously ill post my experiences. However, I know that over time honeycomb is going rock hard, and the xoom will be a longstanding beast in the war of the tablets!
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However, I know that over time honeycomb is going rock hard, and the xoom will be a longstanding beast in the war of the tablets!
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I agree, the main draw to the Xoom was the fact that it was a "Google Experience" device (or whatever they call it). So unlike Samsung, we'll actually get updates quickly and, I would guess, probably before any other 3.0 device (unless it's a Google Experience device as well without MotoBlur/Sense/Touchwiz).
What I meant about the apps I have on my phone - somethings like handcent for example won't be necessary on the Xoom (at least for me). Neither is SetCPU necessary for me right now (since I'm not currently rooted, and to be honest, don't really feel the need to so far...). Hmmm other apps I'll use only on the phone and not the Xoom? Probably stuff like remote control apps, financial stuff like checkbooks and mint.com (just go online or use the phone).
Wapedia works EXCELLENT (awhile ago I bought the ad removal plugin, totally worth it). Almost looks like regular desktop Wikipedia.
Yeah. I love Wapedia! That's an excellent app that would be awesome for the Xoom. I'll install it! So, it's a tablet, NOT a phone. It may suit some people to aquire a data plan for work, or if you're on-the-go constantly, but I won't need it. I simply use my WiFi, and that's sufficient enough. Handsent would be lame, because I have my phone of course, but I'm not going to sit there and send text messages on my kind of "replacement" laptop. LOL! I can Google voice being a good asset because instant messaging seems reasonalbe. I'm pretty sure that it's not working right now and they're planning an update soon to fix it. IDK, I love having the Xoom as my little 'sidekick' for school, and business-related tasks. It's such a multimedia powerhouse! How technology changes so rapidly amazes me...
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Yeah. I love Wapedia! That's an excellent app that would be awesome for the Xoom. I'll install it! So, it's a tablet, NOT a phone. It may suit some people to aquire a data plan for work, or if you're on-the-go constantly, but I won't need it. I simply use my WiFi, and that's sufficient enough. Handsent would be lame, because I have my phone of course, but I'm not going to sit there and send text messages on my kind of "replacement" laptop. LOL! I can Google voice being a good asset because instant messaging seems reasonalbe. I'm pretty sure that it's not working right now and they're planning an update soon to fix it. IDK, I love having the Xoom as my little 'sidekick' for school, and business-related tasks. It's such a multimedia powerhouse! How technology changes so rapidly amazes me...
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Definitely, I'm more stunned by the technology encased inside of it really, and the fact that they've gotten it work this well, regardless of number of crashes or bugs. Still better than a Windows computer!
If I'm not mistaken, Wapedia even had a slightly different layout - like you could change the type of wiki you're searching quickly on the right hand side. I haven't delved into it too much, but I remember it looked better than on the phone.
And of course you can always root and tether your phone if you haven't already so you can get on the move with the tablet. But I just really wanted its own connection since I'm pulling almost double the speed from Verizon as I would off of tethering from Sprint. And it's nice to have two different connections (although they probably connect to the same towers) if your data isn't pulling up well when you're on the road like I am.
Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.
Same here buddy, lockscreen takes a long time to respond
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I hate it when folks feel the need to start their own topic when there are 100 similar ones that would do.
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Are you sure you turned off automatic brightness?
Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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If it was really a bad update, why doesn't it affect everyone? I have a stock locked tablet, and simply flashed Google's factory image.. No issue whatsoever!
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I have almost only good experiences with the 4.2, generally feel more stable and haven't noticed any sluggish behaviour. Only problem Im having is with bluetooth, it won't remember profile selections for my paired devices. So everytime I connect to my phone for internet access I need to go and tick internet access under profiles
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The majority of people come here for solid technical advice, and some of this discussion hardly inspires confidence. We also need confidence in Google as we have invested in their product and it is perfectly legitimate to raise concerns about the 4.2 update that they pushed to our devices
If you use Bluetooth, for example to tether, then you will have been thrown by the changes to the interface. It was not obvious how to connect, and is actually quite inconsistent in that clicking the device name disconnects which is different to what's needed to connect.
One of the advantages the Nexus has over the Mini is the 16:10 screen great for widescreen movies. It's no surprise then that loss of USB mount (a feature available when many of us decided to buy the Nexus) has hit us hard. Yes there is a paid App which might allow movie streaming but I use the USB to extend storage for the huge game files we must download and so this is a major loss.
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has a legitimate complaint - the update is terrible and people have every right to be upset about it.
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I cant believe its not butter :/
On a serious note. I am yet to face any problems with 4.2. I like it alot. Battery life is great, keyboard is great and quick settings i love.
Just like 4.1.2 but with extras
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Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.
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Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.
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Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.
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It is most certainly NOT as fast for me, just because it is ok on your device please don't assume everyone else's is the same!
I actually love 4.2. A little lag here and there, but I owned a Huawei Ascend with like a 500 mHz processor, a Samsung Sidekick 4G with a 1 gHz processor, and a Kindle fire. Seriously Google isn't perfect (but they are damn close) they released an update you don't like, does that mean you should cry and hit the new thread button? No, it means you should just flash 4.1.2 and save server space. Especially when there are 100 other topics exactly as useless as yours. We don't need more of them.
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Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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Clearly you and other folk unhappy with 4.2 should IMMEDIATELY upgrade to Windows Mojave. It will solve all your concerns. Pinky swear!!!
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Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment
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Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414
android1234567 said:
Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414
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Has nothing to do with Prism, the heuristics on the backlight seems to allow it to ramp up and down faster than it did before. In fact before the N7 seemed to be very stubborn to change levels, now it's a little too fast perhaps.
No matter what version or ROM I'm using I don't use automatic brightness. I use the lowest setting and adjust when I need to.
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Hating it and loving it ? - wow these are strong words for an OS. Just like W8 people just can't work out whether its the cool thing to be for it or against it yet even though there's no need to take sides or feel possessive about it - we're all here just users equally dependant upon the working of Google aren't we?
One sure thing though - bugs will iron out but things like the way Bluetooth works now and the loss of USB mount are major hits for those of use dependant on those features for the last 4 months.
USB mounting was never part of 4.1... why are people suggesting it was? You needed root and stickmount or a custom ROM.
Stickmount will update eventually. Stop blaming Google for breaking something they never supported in the first place.
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
No such problem with my HTC One. Multitasked between apps and browser, different tabs stayed put(no auto-refreshing).
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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I would like to know the same..
EDIT: nvm
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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Yes. Me.
Shasarak said:
Yes. Me.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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It does it a LOT on a dating site that I use, OKCupid (when accessing the desktop version of the site). I think it may possibly be related to the number of tabs one has open, as well. But certainly it's very annoying. I sometimes do a bit of browsing on London Underground trains. (You get about 20 seconds of wifi when the train is in a station!) What I'd like to be able to do is load up multiple pages in different tabs (each one opened as a new background tab) while the connection is up and then read them in the tunnels between stations; but it insists on refreshing each tab as you go back to it, and, as there's no connection in the tunnel, you can't actually read the page, even though it's fully downloaded and should be cached.
It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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But that doesn't happen on my Chrome on my Note II... ever! Even if I press a link by mistake I can press back and it will be stored in cache, this is probably an HTC problem then, anyone else having this issue?
Nope. Not a problem for me. Always going back and forth on my browser. No issue there
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I agree. I can't remember if it's because I swipe it away with the recent apps button.
But sometimes the browser panics on me and closes on it's own.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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A preference that had no influence apparently, since all it takes is a person with a task manager to confirm what I said was true.
This happens on my Nexus 4. Nothing new to see.
Vincent Law said:
This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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Chrome doesn't have any scrolling lag for me on the One.
am using the official ICS and OMG its so stupid!
-it takes up to 8 seconds to open an app
-it drains my battery(8 hours maximum)
-it lags so much and some apps just end up crashing every now and then
-cant tether
-one cant manually toggle between 2G/3G/4G!
-is the processor of this phone really a duo core??????
Is there a better ROM??? or should i just sell off the phone??
Did you do a complete wipe/factory restore when you moved to ICS? I started out that way, and the ROM has always felt fine, and I believe there are reports from other users that had their gripes resolved when they restored from scratch.
I did a wipe but still the rom is so lagging!
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i had some previous ICS experiences but you should try a few tricks. first, hold down the HOME KEY for about 3 seconds. an APP manager opens. you may have lots of apps that didnt close. hit STOP ALL.
Also notice that you can quickly pop between apps this way. you can kill an app by swiping its image sideways.
Second, in your drop down bar, organize your icons to have the WIFI and DATA buttons quickly available. The DATA is a really battery drainer. if your not using it, turn it off. if your not using wifi, turn it off. your battery can last 2+ days with both turned off.
With Gingerbread, i had issues with the wifi not connecting after the phone was on for a day or so. all that seems to be fixed with ICS. I used to have to reboot the phone 2-3 times a day to fix this. I rarely ever reboot it now.
If you decide to sell off the phone, i know at&t will give you $100 for it as a trade in. I think the used phones are going for about $90 on ebay now
hope that helps!
I've used many devices with ICS and this one byfar takes the tard cake.
I am having the same thing here. seems like getting slower after using for few days.
Worst ROM I have ever used
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after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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I recently got this phone and have been expirimenting with the official stock rom while rooted. It is offensively slow and I believe lg recruited satan to invent the rom and make me kill myself. Either way, a few things that actually worked for me are the following:
Startup manager from the android market, disable all lg/ startup applications under system. This singlehandedly decreased my boot time by about a minute and makes everything much smoother.
rescan media root from the market, use it to disable media scanning. For some reason, the media scanner on stock ics sucks for me, and makes the entire phone unusable. Disabling it with this app also increased my boot time and made the phone run better.
V6 supercharger with kick ass kernelizer and patched services.jar and unledded minfrees. Google v6 supercharger, its the first result.
I still have problems like op describes, sometimes the phone will freeze for four to eight seconds while doing something and takes time to catch up to itself. Not sure why, or how to fix it.
Are you sure about that, I actually flashed ICS on my Thrill and It rocks!!!!!!
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If you are sure it is not a bad flash, try Supercharger and Ultimatic .jar tools mod over in General Android Dev and Hacks like teebuddy said. Kills lag like no other mod. Also uninstall unneeded apps to free up memory. This phone is 3+ yrs old now.
Or use a better optimized custom ROM
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lol glad I am not the only one.
This phone is a piece of garbage.
My first visit to the forum in months.
I signed up to install ICS official hoping for improvements. It brought me some features. Did it make the phone better? Nope, probably worse.
Phone is laggy and my internal storage isn't even full.
Sometimes opening an app takes 4-6 seconds, other times an app freezes and the buttons on the bottom of the phone do not respond.
Sometimes when in an app it goes black and then takes forever to respond again.
I upgrade to ICS and lose tethering which was a nice feature. I would rather lose 3D which is the biggest gimmick ever.
This phone is beyond pathetic! I have an iPhone 4 which is a single core and runs smooth as BUTTER. I prefer Android OS but LG Optimus 3D sucks.
There is no hope for this pathetic phone now. Once my contract expires next year I will try to sell it.
It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
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It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
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Not sure what you are talking about.
I got the phone in 2011 when it came out. There weren't many options. The contract is 3 years, so it expires summer 2014.
Not sure where you live but contracts were 3 years and only changed to 2 years this July. Anyone before July still has to finish their contract or they can cancel.
The phone sucks period. It is worse than my friends Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and my Uncle's iPhone 4.
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That is also ironic.
It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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Um this phone has 512mb ram... Also the processor sucks. It's worse than an underclocked iPhone 4 processor.
I froze all the AT&T apps with titanium backup.
http://bgr.com/2015/08/25/galaxy-note-5-vs-iphone-6-speed-test/
After seeing this Samsung must really have dorked the memory management really bad on the Note, it seem even worse than my old S6 Edge killing apps in the background all the time. Why put 4 GB of ram when you cant use them? Is it really this bad killing all the apps and have to reaload them or is the video totally wrong?
This is ancient news. Geez. Welcome to 3 days ago. LOL
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All of the new samsung phones are like this and its ridiculous. Hopefully a dev can fix it.
The "multitasking king" getting the ass kicked?
Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
Shocking BGR published this. In my day to day use I don't notice any problems. I have a 6+ and it isn't any better.
For example. I use a radio app that if I pause it it will continue to record the station until I come back to it and pick up where I left off. Same app on the iPhone if I pause it and come back later it never keeps my recording. This has always been my personal test between the 2 OS's.
These side by side tests are not real world usage and prove nothing.
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Stupid tests get stupid results.
Who'da thunk?
easycure1974 said:
Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/news-european-note-5-t3185548
i keep my benchmarks based on how i'd actually use the device. launching a buncha apps then relaunching (without ever using them) is something i see myself rarely doing.
That is my point. I'm not defending how samsung is doing the memory management, as it seems stupid.
But in practice, for my usage this doesn't seem to come into play often/at all. So FOR ME this just isn't a big deal.
iOS doesn't background multitask like Android. If you start a SSH/telnet, IRC, ftp/ftps/stftp, etc. session then put it in the background iOS will kill it after 3 minutes. If they had repeated the test but wait after 3 minutes to relaunch the apps then the results would come out different.
http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
Sess said:
No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
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+1 the problem seems to happen when you multitask on more than 8 apps I think it is a feature to save battery then
use the task switcher instead of re clickkng the icon to get back to the running app
From my personal experience, I ran Hearthstone, Vainglory, Chrome, iFunny, and Pandora at once without any apps being killed. Then continued with Youtube, Facebook, and then Hangouts. Only then did apps begin getting killed. So I really don't see this to be a problem for sensible people.
I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
Deliximus said:
I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
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Imagine however it was Microsoft word which comes with the device or Tapatalk. What if you halfway through writing a post or a word document, you background the app and check email, look at web browser, check s-planner and then take a call or text someone. You then go back to your word document or Tapatalk post and the app refreshes - resulting in you losing everything you had previously written. No matter how quick it reloads that would be an utter pain. The fact is - 4gb, 2015, fastest ram and SOC, it shouldn't happen. We should expect more.
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Have you ever had that problem in Word? I haven't, and tried exactly what you listed as an example...
I understand your point, though.
Thread closed, similar/same topic being discussed here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/ram-bug-t3182414