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I saw the huge list of safe apps to delete, and I am getting my Droid X on monday, so I was just wondering if deleting the apps causes the speed to increase? I read a lot of reviews saying the Droid X has some lag unfourtantely but does it speed up when you delete all those applications?
I have the incredible right now and use a froyo basic ROM, I turn off all animations and delete all apps that aren't necessary, I just care about the speed of the phone. Do you see a speed increase if the applications are deleted?
I don't think you'll see a noticeable speed increase. The X does have lag in some places, notably the lock screen (big wtf here), but I don't think it's that much worse than most other android phones on stock roms.
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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The pro for all of the things you've mentioned there is that it seems to all be software related. HTC obviously has had more time to perfect Sense then Motorola has with it's new Blur-hybrid. I think once the software issues get worked out, the hardware for the X will outshine the Inc.
Just use launcher pro instead of the stock launcher and the entire system will run faster.
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Doesn't using launcher pro on top of blur make it use even more resources?
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it does, but if you remove everything off of your blur, then launch and use the other launcher it will use quite a bit more ram, (i see about a jump of 20 to 30 megs though i haven't done any precise measuring)
But I do notice a bit of a speed increase, part of the reason could be you can control the speed of the animations, and if you bump it up a little bit, even if it lags on showing you the animation it's not as noticeable because you can get there faster. (if that makes sense)
Well then if its mostly software related then I'll wait for a couple firmware updates or 2.2 before I start *****ing
ANy tips on how to speed the droid X up anyone?
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
grdm said:
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Startup Auditor - It's a paid app but worth the money.
I just tried launcher pro on top of fully configured blur and pro was still smother than blur. So since it isn't the phone I'm holding out hope for 2.2/blur update fixes this. Since that's around the corner I'll wait for it before converting to pro.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Autokiller is a full featured, free app to do this.
Launcher Pro made a world of difference on my incredible, zero lag whatsoever..
I like many people thought about getting the Droid X, i dont have a complaint with its size whatsoever moreso then other issues... when i tested the demo phone in the verizon store it seemed incredibly slow.. yes i know it was a demo phone and people probobly mess with it all day long but still it was like having a G1 all over again..
Secondly is the lack of root access.. with the encrypted bootloader it is probobly going to be near impossible to flash a custom recovery and therefor custom roms are also going to be a hassle, i love having my fully unlocked incredible with a S-Off Nand on the way.. having custom roms and overclock kernals changes the feel of the phone completely
Thirdly and last is the 2.2 update... i saw the 2.2 update news article on the Droid X and the guys Quadrant Benchmarks with it were 800 something? That seems redicilous because my Quadrant Benchmarks with my 2.2 incredible are 1400s and Linpacks are in the low 40s
Those benches are showing the droid x on 2.1, with some other phones on 2.2, which puts the droid x in the highest tier of performance. Once froyo is on the dx, youll see scores almost surely above the incredibles (because of the gpu) and very high linpack scores.
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Autorun Killer does the job, but you need to be rooted.
AutoKiller on the same website will help you keep your memory cleaner by automatically killing tasks. That'll improve performance if your phone is running low on memory (which can happen if all the stock processes are running).
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personally i rooted my phone installed root explorer renamed alot of junk on my phone from .apk to .bak. my phone is def snappier. i also turned off the animated backgrounds. i also use advanced task killer which is the main reason i started, in a sense, uninstalling apps the safe way. seeing all of those items running before i killed them was killing me. so i would try doing that and also turning off wifi etc when not needed.
May not be the best scores, but this is after renaming only a few apps.
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Blur sucks. Launcher Pro rocks... And umm... Well I prefer my Droid X to the Incredible after the mods. I have zero lag. Go me.
I just upgraded to the droid 4 a couple of days ago. I am not new to rooting by any means, so ive been considering rooting this beast. My concern is not having a safe point to restore to. Is it worth it at this point to take the minimal risk? Has anyones use of the droid 4 become drastically improved after rooting? I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thank you
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Go for it!
I have notice no performance increase or decrease. My phone behaves they same before and after I rooted. The rooting method is super easy also. I was impressed. If you follow directions exactly then the risk of bricking is VERY minimal. If your like me and you like having full control over your phone, then I would definitely root. The risk of screwing up your phone is greater after you root your device because then you start installing apps using super user permissions. As long as you stick with well know root apps like Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, Wireless Tether (the google project one), Nebtop, etc, you will be OK. Avoid apps with a very low amount of user reviews on the Play Store. If you do this then you will be fine.
My opinion it is definitely worth it as I've always been rooted and had a hard time even trying to make it through one day on stock lol. If you are familiar with rooting on Moto devices and familiar with Safestrap, you shouldn't worry too much.. But that being said, I there are still no fastboot files and there will still always be some risk.
I'm currently set up stock on my non-safe system(leaving it as is if I need to go back or for an ota) with gummy on my safe side. I've had good luck with data so far on gummy and with aokp and it's hard to go back once you've run ics long enough lol.
Just my opinion. If you haven't used Safestrap before just make sure to read up first to eliminate chance of bringing.
Good luck and have Fun!
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Keep in mind, you don't have to install a new ROM or safestrap if you just want to root. The risk to rooting is pretty minimal, and it allows you a lot more control over the phone.
The reason I rooted was because:
1) Titanium Backup requires root
2) Widgetlocker works better with root (disable ugly stock lockscreen)
3) SetCPU requires root to work
I have SetCPU setup not to overclock, but to underclock when screen is off/charging. Worth it for root for me. Plus, I wanted to root now, just in case an OTA comes down that makes it difficult to root later on (like the OG Droid).
You all sound pretty convincing. Podspi, or anyone for that matter, how much longer does your battery last while underclocking it just when charging and the screens off? I think i will be rooting this phone in a matter of hours
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You all sound pretty convincing. Podspi, or anyone for that matter, how much longer does your battery last while underclocking it just when charging and the screens off? I think i will be rooting this phone in a matter of hours
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Probably depends on your use... It's hard to say, since I rooted it and underclocked it about an hour after I got it, but Battery Monitor Widget claims I could get 2 days out of idle (screen off).
SetCPU has a profile mode that lets you set the speed under a bunch of different conditions. I limit mine to 600mhz when less than 50% battery is remaining, for example. So far, with 4G on, I haven't even come close to running out in a day. So I'm pretty happy with the results, though I am not a heavy user.
Use the Droid 4 Utility, it makes rooting more or less foolproof. It is just a batch file, if you are interested in exactly what it is doing.
I just rooted my phone. That was incredibly simple, and I can do it to the other 4 droid 4s in my family in a matter of minutes. Which wireless tether app is the Google Project one? I've used barnacle in the past and one other I no longer see available on the market. Also anyone have a lockscreen that can pause and skip music? One of the simplest things I miss
For the purposes of SetCPU, at what temperatures should I be concerned about the battery and CPU? I read somewhere these batterys can take up to 158 degrees before any difference, but I set it at 140 degrees. What is safe for the phone?
I have gotten my phone very hot to the touch over 4G on a skype Video call so I imagine it could go further without problems.
The tether would be this one, http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...ail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta11.apk&can=2&q=
The built in tethering app flaked out on me the other day, but this one seems to work perfectly, maybe a little better than the stock one.
Just installed it. Thank you everyone
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Probably depends on your use... It's hard to say, since I rooted it and underclocked it about an hour after I got it, but Battery Monitor Widget claims I could get 2 days out of idle (screen off).
SetCPU has a profile mode that lets you set the speed under a bunch of different conditions. I limit mine to 600mhz when less than 50% battery is remaining, for example. So far, with 4G on, I haven't even come close to running out in a day. So I'm pretty happy with the results, though I am not a heavy user.
Use the Droid 4 Utility, it makes rooting more or less foolproof. It is just a batch file, if you are interested in exactly what it is doing.
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Droid 4 util is amazing. I'm a PC tech, and real familiar with windows and such, but not great with hardware, and my only previous android device was a god awful archos tablet.
D4U unlocked my phone in pretty much a single click, and bam, free tether, etc.
I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
No such problem with my HTC One. Multitasked between apps and browser, different tabs stayed put(no auto-refreshing).
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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I would like to know the same..
EDIT: nvm
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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Yes. Me.
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Yes. Me.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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It does it a LOT on a dating site that I use, OKCupid (when accessing the desktop version of the site). I think it may possibly be related to the number of tabs one has open, as well. But certainly it's very annoying. I sometimes do a bit of browsing on London Underground trains. (You get about 20 seconds of wifi when the train is in a station!) What I'd like to be able to do is load up multiple pages in different tabs (each one opened as a new background tab) while the connection is up and then read them in the tunnels between stations; but it insists on refreshing each tab as you go back to it, and, as there's no connection in the tunnel, you can't actually read the page, even though it's fully downloaded and should be cached.
It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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But that doesn't happen on my Chrome on my Note II... ever! Even if I press a link by mistake I can press back and it will be stored in cache, this is probably an HTC problem then, anyone else having this issue?
Nope. Not a problem for me. Always going back and forth on my browser. No issue there
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I agree. I can't remember if it's because I swipe it away with the recent apps button.
But sometimes the browser panics on me and closes on it's own.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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A preference that had no influence apparently, since all it takes is a person with a task manager to confirm what I said was true.
This happens on my Nexus 4. Nothing new to see.
Vincent Law said:
This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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Chrome doesn't have any scrolling lag for me on the One.
Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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Yes Android Does have bug and lag but its getting a lot better compare to 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 4.0 4.1 4.2 each update has improved whole OS bit better, but still needs more time to mature but same time İOS or Windows Phone is very limited so i assume more thing to do means more codes and more codes mean more fault. İ have HTC One and İphone 5 but HTC One feels faster than İphone 5 in my eyes but another fact is Android needs more power so maybe next chipsets like S800 or Tegra 4 may make transaction more smoother. Android is not best idea on budget smartphone cos as i said needs more power.
There are a lot of rumours that Android Key Lime Pime will be more smoother and less power hungry need to wait and see but enjoy whole experience of android its free and open its getting better every day
sorry for bad spell etc
As a past user of an iPhone 4s and current user of a HTC one, lag is way more prevalent in the 4s.Examples 1.Open the app store. 2. Switch between apps a couple times. 3. Swipe to the search screen. The one never lags for me. Ever. I'm a pretty intensive user with lots of apps running at once. Not to mention the speed at which the one works compared to the iPhone. It still has awesome animations but does them faster. Seriously you must have some rogue app going crazy in the background or something.
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I have the same feeling.
I've owned over 10 android devices and an iPhone 4 and 5, and when I'm on an iPhone I hate that I'm not able to do anything... and while when I'm on an Android phone I LOATHE the constant stutter/lag/inconcistancy.
You can't have your cake and eat it too... I guess.
EDIT: To answer your quesion: no, you can't.
EDIT2: just thought of WebOS, smooth, whith it's modding repositories *starts wheeping*
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Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
I think the OP is referring to apps that haven't yet been optimized for the 1920x1080 screen of the One and the S4. Animations such as those in Words with Friends look jerky in comparison with the iOS counterpart. It may be something you'll need to learn to live with. With Android phones of all different sizes out there, you're never going to get 100% app compatibility.
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
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Like I said I can' t see any stutter or lag, not in the default apps or sense at least
Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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like I said you need to give some specific examples of lag or stutter because I can't see it, not in sense nor in the stock apps. I can see lag and stutter for example in chrome (and new opera) but stock (and opera classic) are smooth, app drawer buttery smooth, settings buttery smooth, whatsapp smooth, blinkfeed smooth
Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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oh I don' t use any of those apps, mostly the stock ones and google apps and these are all buttery smooth (with the exception of chrome and sometime the play store).
I think these laggy apps all use webkit to draw their UI, webkit will lag the UI when loading, even on a powerful desktop. One of the chrome devs congrateluted opera, when the switched to webkit how fluid they had made opera when presto was still loading, something which they hadn't figured out to do yet
what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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I'm currently on stock 4.1.2 from HTC, the European version for the HTC_001. I've also tried the Android Revolution HD 4.2.2, but the problem still persisted. It was better, but still not 'buttery smooth'.
As to when it happens - Sense is largely ok, when swiping through the screens you can't really see any lag. Unless going between the app launcher and the blinkfeed.
But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web browser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
I've tried firefox, chrome, stock browser, and all of them have the same problem.
There are also apps, facebook, even the keyboard lags!
Now, I don't know about you, but I think it's the resolution that causes the problem. I'd rather have lower resolution with say, 300 ppi, which is not really noticeably worse than that of the One, and at the same time have an OS that does not suffer from these problems.
Because in all honesty, the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
I'm still hoping that somebody will come up with something that can fix it.
Because I'm really sensitive about this stuff myself, and love the idea of android at the same time. Not to mention the hardware of ONE.
But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
So I think it'll be back to the iPhone for now. My contract on it ends in a year, so let's hope Google does some magic with Android, and maybe forces manufacturers to release properly optimized software. But I fear that's just wishful thinking.
chris_abr said:
...the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
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You said it yourself, that can't be right.
chris_abr said:
...But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
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You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
If you're getting stuttering with certain apps, don't use them. Poorly made apps usually have alternatives.
So far, the only big app I'm getting stuttering with is the Chrome/Chrome Beta app. It would be nice if it wasn't there but, thanks to features like data compression saving me roughly 50% on data use, I can look past it. I also get it with the facebook app, but that is such a **** app.
There are probably some other apps I get it with but, to be completely honest, lag and stuttering hasn't been noticeable in my daily use. This phone is fast as hell... Faster even than a 15 year old car. What a deal!
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ataft said:
You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
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haha!
What I was trying to say, that these phones cost extremely high amounts of money, and yet don't work properly.
I mean, having used Lumia 520 a few weeks ago for a few days, I can safely say that I would recommend that over the One, simply on the 'niceness of use'. And that phone costs £100 in the UK.. One costs over £450 at the cheapest.
As to the apps - I get that, but if you read my post, you'd know that I mentioned all of the popular apps, I try to stay away from the lesser known developers, as they tend not to do so much testing on their apps, and thus providing a terrible experience most of the time (not so much on iOS, as Apple does a lot of testing before they put the app up on the market, something that would be nice to have on android too).
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But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web bowser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
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some sites lag in some browsers some sites in all, some sites even lag on my powerful core i5 laptop running windows 8, sometimes it' s bug in the browser, sometimes a bug in the website. I'll bet you you will come across laggy sites on the iphone too. XDA is buttery smooth for me though (at least the forum, which I always watch in compact view and I hated the contextual search so I disabled that in forum preferences)
Honestly I've used android from the start back when the g1 was released. Going from that to the g2 now the HTC one. Even on my g2 on some Roms I barley had lag issues now on the one I don't see any stutter or lag or slow downs.. But I guess that's just me.
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I guess we can both be happy that are devices aren't as bad as the OP
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I don't think it's a problem with my particular device though.
I've watched many reviews online, and the very same things that happened on my device were happening on those being reviewed.
Things like:
When browsing google images, you open one image and then swipe to look at the next one, htc one starts to render an animation and then 1/4th of the way just stutters to the picture. On the iPhone it's just a nice, fluid animation.
Another, the original keyboard is rather bad, you press a key, and the pop up with letter comes on, you depress the key and the preview is still there for at least half a second.
Also, a more general one - when you install something from the play store and try to browse for another app on it at the same time - it stutters beyond belief.
And sense one - where are the animations when closing an app/window? I feel like using windows Vista on a 2005 pc with 1gb ram..
It's very small things, but they do not happen on the iPhone, and I just feel like the experience is more pleasurable and consistent on iOS. Not to mention WP, which is even faster than iOS in my opinion.
The iPhone and WP may not be faster hardware wise, or performance wise even, but the animation, and transitions between doing things are just incredibly badly implemented on Android.
I'd rather see it being done like on the iPhone - when the phone is installing or doing something in the background, that action stops when you try and use the phone. That way, it may perform worse, and install the app slower, but the experience is really good, and no stutter occurs. Whereas android sort of tries to do everything at the same time.
But again, that may be just me being very bothered about things like this, most people don't see it as a problem, but it annoys the hell out of me, hence this thread. I was hoping that there is some tweak for the One that makes the experience more pleasurable whilst maybe decreasing the performance a little.
Am I the only one who doesn't seem to care about root? The reason I've rooted and flashed previous devices was for better gaming & speed optimization, battery life and the experience of change & customization; of course.
However, as odd as it seems to say I have went weeks now not even thinking of root or custom roms on this device.
TouchWiz is faster than ever, gaming is faster than ever (the CPU and GPU speak for themselves..), and everything's polished. The battery is superb! I dont even charge my S5 somedays with moderate gaming.. All I did was a few standard TW tweaks.. disabled animations in DM and threw on Nova launcher.
Next time around I will go with an unlocked phone (probably the next flagship Google phone), but for now I really enjoy the stock and untampered version of this phone.
Anyone else on the same page?
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U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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cerobles1 said:
U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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Titanium backup is useless for me, all I ever backup is photos and that's easily done with my Google account. I have no reasons to greenify on this phone, no reason to debloat (doesn't slow my phone down), all I miss is xposed and rom toolbox, but even those aren't much to me anymore. I have my nexus 7 (2013) for my AOSP needs I actually enjoy TW on my phone.. weird, I know.
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I care very much about it since Samsung decided to disable so many things. The ability for 3rd party file managers to fly from internal to external memory (or from a cloud to external, which is what I really want), lock screen widgets, the lack of available memory--they list goes on the more I use this phone.
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I care very much about it since Samsung decided to disable so many things. The ability for 3rd party file managers to fly from internal to external memory (or from a cloud to external, which is what I really want), lock screen widgets, the lack of available memory--they list goes on the more I use this phone.
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Actually those are Google limitations brought on by KitKat, not Samsung limitations. KitKat has blocked the 3rd party write ability to SD cards.
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U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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Couldnt disagree more about AOSP. Dont want it, dont need it otherwise i would have gone with a nexus.
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Am I the only one who doesn't seem to care about root? The reason I've rooted and flashed previous devices was for better gaming & speed optimization, battery life and the experience of change & customization; of course.
However, as odd as it seems to say I have went weeks now not even thinking of root or custom roms on this device.
TouchWiz is faster than ever, gaming is faster than ever (the CPU and GPU speak for themselves..), and everything's polished. The battery is superb! I dont even charge my S5 somedays with moderate gaming.. All I did was a few standard TW tweaks.. disabled animations in DM and threw on Nova launcher.
Next time around I will go with an unlocked phone (probably the next flagship Google phone), but for now I really enjoy the stock and untampered version of this phone.
Anyone else on the same page?
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Partially. My S3 is my work phone, and if Samsung ever gets around to releasing the 32GB version instead of futzing around with colors, I'll likely pull the trigger on the S5. My employer will be implementing AirWatch soon and cutting off sync to rooted phones, so the lack of root will mean less to me.
I will hate to give up, though Titanium Backup - both for its ability to backup and freeze apps; Greenify - to try tame misbehaved apps; my S3 gets the world's worst battery life, Bettery Batter Stats - to try to diagnose said awful battery life, and Directory Bind - to work around some of the limits of the 16GB space on my G3.
I'd like to be able to delete instead of freeze worthless Samsung apps when Samsung shuts their services down and AT&T apps that I will never, ever, ever use.
Give me a way to backup my phone, safely uninstall non-core functionality, and make my battery suck less, and I can live without root.
I also don't care about root, for myself, on my primary device.
I'd rather the added stability and security from knowing the various apps, and myself, are locked out of ranges of potentially harmful behavior. For me, for my phone, it's no. 1 a tool that I needs to be reliable.
Way far and gone in 3rd place would be something that needs root.
Like other's stated, my data/content is backed up separately, and google play has my back on the apps, so I don't need any other backup solution.
Root would be nice, but the S5 seems to have hit the mark as far as I'm concerned. It is not perfect, but I am very satisfied. Even if a root method is found, I'm not so sure I would be doing it.
As far as my need to flash something...well...that's what my N7 is for. lol
As much as I want root, I am just as happy without it. I've had zero problems with battery life or lag.
Obviously I care a lot, today I sold the S5 and just got an M8, having an Andorid without root is the same as having an iPhone or WindowsPhone. I like to be able to do whatever I want with my device.
Android w/o root is still a ton better than iOS.
For me, the only thing I want root for on this device is titanium backup, and the ability to enable car mode which AT&T very stupidly disabled.
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I have a hard time saying this but I have to agree with the op. My excuse, powering savings mode. I can't live without it now, having gray scale and under clocking right at the touch of a button is sweet. I get three to four days per charge with heavy use. Plus I love the camera app, it's almost worth it for just that alone.
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After using Touchwiz for a month or so.. i would definitely like to flash AOSP or something new. it's like the phone is starting to slow down or get buggy here and there.
Also Xposed has some great tweaks
Root isn't a deal breaker for me but it's always great to have options
I would miss xposed, but I could have managed with no root if Google wouldn't have F'd up the the external SD access. I really liked the phone, but couldn't justify dropping that kind of money on a locked down phone. I still pop in here every couple of days in hopes that an exploit has been found, but no such luck. I'm seriously considering picking up an international model pretty soon.
Glad to see an equal side oppositional in this thread, nice to see some agree with me. If I remember.. I did see something somewhere about a possible future update allowing more SD card writing.
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i only want root so i can use the download booster feature that samsung advertises. but hopefully we will get that in a ota
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Actually those are Google limitations brought on by KitKat, not Samsung limitations. KitKat has blocked the 3rd party write ability to SD cards.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ES dev said the inability to copy to external memory is Samsung's doing. Also, I had stock, barebones kitkat on my S3 and it could do said function.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ES dev said the inability to copy to external memory is Samsung's doing. Also, I had stock, barebones kitkat on my S3 and it could do said function.
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HTC M8 stock KitKat most 3rd party apps cannot write to sd card...Dropbox still can't. It required root and a fix to make some work. If you google KitKat and sd card trouble you will see it is KitKat, not Samsung.