[Q] LAG? Stock ICS vs. ... - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Wanting thoughts or answers on why there is so much noticeable lag on Stock ICS? Ive used stock GB, laggy. Leaked ICS. Laggy. CM9 buttery smoooooth. Stock ICS. Lag :/
Now I can understand that Samsung put all the extra crap into touchwiz and their roms... And CM9 is simplified/optimised. But I also just put Criskelo's ROM on and it TOO is buttery smooth YET is LPY based with touchwiz and some crap. So I fail to understand why the german stock release is so laggy. As well as GB. Is this a conspiracy to push the average user to faster devices because at times i felt my note was less than satisfactory then I put on CM9 or this Rom and i remember why i love it again. Bit of a rant but hey. Surely Samsung of all Android phone manufacturers would have a development team capable of making a high quality near flawless rom...performance issues just suck the fun...
...and in terms of lag. Screen transitions. Page scrolling. Widgets and general poorer quality stuttering.
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did u flash cf-root kernel with stock lpy as i noticed lag too with cf root,
but when i flashed stock lpy without cf root it is very smooth

Flashed the stock (unrooted) German firmware using Odin. All went fine but since then I didn't like the speed of the device anymore. The note was noticeable slower, apps needed an extra second to start up.
(b.t.w. bricked my device while trying to get back to GB)

Ce said:
Flashed the stock (unrooted) German firmware using Odin. All went fine but since then I didn't like the speed of the device anymore. The note was noticeable slower, apps needed an extra second to start up.
(b.t.w. bricked my device while trying to get back to GB)
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Hey Ce! Sorry for OT, but how did you try to go back to GB? What steps have you gone through?

is this a for serious, real post?..
I am on an older rooted KKA stock ROM and really dont see any noticeable lag... hopefully you are aware that the largest contributor to perceived lag is the user and the decisions he makes, rather than the firmware.

I was on the lpy kernel lately. flashed abyss note 4.2 and restored my nandroid back upo of liquid. oh man i know what i lost when i was in lpy crap

greenlant said:
Hey Ce! Sorry for OT, but how did you try to go back to GB? What steps have you gone through?
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I guess I made the wrong choices. For a good advise for returning to GB you have to look elsewhere on this site.
@Mystic38: I'm talking about serious lags on a fresh system, without any third party software installed.

Ce said:
I guess I made the wrong choices. For a good advise for returning to GB you have to look elsewhere on this site.
@Mystic38: I'm talking about serious lags on a fresh system, without any third party software installed.
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For sure! my questions was more based on my interest, what I should really NOT do!

Mystic38 said:
is this a for serious, real post?..
I am on an older rooted KKA stock ROM and really dont see any noticeable lag... hopefully you are aware that the largest contributor to perceived lag is the user and the decisions he makes, rather than the firmware.
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Of course is real.My phone(ICS) also lag,battery life is terrible,wifi signal is really bad,phone freezes(for about 1minute),Voice control app crashes, screen sometimes does not register the touch,etc... Funny,games work really well.
Today I discovered another disturbing thing - my screen is burned-in. If I have some white page(picture) opened in landscape mode, I can see status bar burned-in on the left side. Status bar is black(so screen diodes are turned off) and it's always on the same place. If the entire screen is white I can see status bar like brighter colour,wifi&mobile bars(avast icon,etc) are in darker yellowish color. Also the rest of the screen is darker-yellowish. And I have my phone only 3.5 months! My old Motorola Milestone have better white color.
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greenlant said:
For sure! my questions was more based on my interest, what I should really NOT do!
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If I could I definitely would help you, however, I've done too many things in order making my Note work again I no longer can differentiate between the "do" and "don't". That's why you shouldn't ask me

I know this is kind of cliche, but always make sure you do a full wipe. I was having some minor annoyances here and there when I first flashed ICS over GB, but then when I reflashed after a full wipe, every thing has been butter smooth.

freedomispopular said:
I know this is kind of cliche, but always make sure you do a full wipe. I was having some minor annoyances here and there when I first flashed ICS over
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Yeah i always do full wipe. As for the perceived lag. No...definate lag. Criskelos lpy is not laggy at all. Apart from minor text input. Probably flashed 50 times with diff variants so im well aware (IMO). I was thinking it was maybe to do with hardware/software acceleration and battery life savings but the battery lifw on stock was nothing fantastic by any stretch. I guess time will tell with any other future stock releases whether it was just oushed too early. From all the variants i can see this phone is more then capable so heres hoping...
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[Q] Custom rom worth it?

Hey guys,
I am now the owner of an Samsung Galaxy Note. I was wondering... is it worth it to root my phone in order to flash a custom rom? I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
ROMs have their pluses and minuses. Freedom is what it's all about.
From all I gather, the current process available means that it is complete reversible. Devices can be unrooted and restored to normal condition.
Suppose it's a personal call. I like to play, so I'm rooting mine right now
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
impy101 said:
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
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Then this isn't for you. The whole point is customizations that may not be available otherwise, and in some cases an overall better rom (subjective). I personally like having that option, though I won't bother since like you said ice cream will come soon
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Hey guys,
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
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I use a ROM because it runs faster/smoother, gets rid of stuff I don't want, and they can be easily modded further via themes and etc.
That said, the Note runs pretty well even stock. It's crazy smooth with the latest Cassy ROM but I'd assume that stock XLA3 runs well too. I'd suggest looking through ROM threads (you generally really only need to look at the first two posts), and see if there's anything you see that you like.
If nothing interests you, then don't bother. If so..... go get it.
Stock firmware, rooted is probably good enough for most people.
- Frank
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I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
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Is it ? Any sources on that ?
Anyway, I love custom ROM's (Coming from a HD2 ), but so far, i've only rooted the stock ROM. I was going to wait for ICS as I couldn't see any benefit to me on a custom one. Plus, i've only had the Note for a day now, so wanted to wait atleast a couple of days before I started to flash new ROM's if I was going to.
I'm the same as you, I don't play games or anything. Just the basics like email, widgets etc etc.
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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Yes ics is comming but you cant exactly tell when so why wait for ics if you can have a better/faster and smoother Rom right now?!
They definitely do! It always depends what rom you are using but rocket rom for example has a smoothness fix in it and yes it is fckin smooth
Cant complain about my bettery life cant say if its true but in my opinion i have better battery life than before with rocketrom v17 and abysskernel 3.1
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I believe fast or slow Roms is gauged on the way the ui frame rate and "rubber band" respond method used in the ipad2. I can really get pissed off totally at how touchwiz behaves to the touch, no matter how you tweak it, the chezzy frame rate sucks. whereas cm9 mod 4.03 gives me the ipad2 feeling of a screamingly fast UI. Samsung! You better not screw up the ICS port you are working on for the note.
I better bet for cm9 to do better.
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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There are lots of methods of speeding things up - shortening needless delays, removing things you don't need that consume RAM/CPU, removing logging that you don't need, etc. Some methods are safer than others. And optimizing for certain things may mean other things run slower. It all depends.
The same can be said for battery life.
I'd say that overall ROMS certainly run better than stock. You'll see yourself running kernel XXXX, and some people with ROMS on XXXX proclaiming great performance that you aren't seeing.
I'd disagree that there is an overall 'Best ROM'. There is, perhaps, a 'Best ROM' for YOU. In a dream world, the best ROM sacrifices everything you don't use, for stuff that you do use.
- Frank
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
Qvp said:
In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
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Fine. Message from Samsung saying that ICS for the Note WILL arrive in Q1 of 2012.
I moved back to the stock ROM
Being on 2 different ROMs, rocket rom v18 included. I've seen bugs and lags.
I'm rooted and have a kernel that let's me overclock to 1.6mhz. But ROM is stock
Just my 2 cents. Wait for the ICS
I do regret going past the KL3 threshold with an OTA update without rooting. Now I have to downgrade from KL7 to KK9 get root, if for no other reason than to use the AdFree app.
I will probably go ahead and trouble myself with it before another OTA pops up for the German debitel note since I am uncertain of what will happen once ICS does show up and I would rather be ready to go with mobile odin just in case.
Has anyone found a kernel/rom which uses an AOSP bluetooth stack?
This would fix audio quality issues with bluetooth A2DP
coming froma hd2 and many custom roms i have now settled on a stock room, rooted it and removed anything i dont need using root explorer and changed the launcher to go launcher
given the apps ripped out and change of launcher along with framework mods, its fast enough for my likings
Better battery(most improtant for me ), better performance and more eye candy. Try rocket 18 with speedmod 3, i lost 5% in 22 hrs.
Just to make things easy for the layman.
1) Stock TouchWizz v4 (2.3.6) = 75/100
2) VillianMOD (2.3.6) = 77/100
3) Pure Google (2.3.7) = 70/100
4) CM7.1 (2.3.7) = 85/100
5) MIUI v2.113 (2.3.7) = 89/100
6) Pure Google (4.0.1)= 90/100
7) Stock TouchWizz v4 (4.0.1) = ???
8) CM9 (4.0.1) = ???
9) MIUI v4 (4.0.1) = ???
As you can see, its not worth updating now, unless there's a function you really really want.
Wait for a stable CMod or MIUI ROM if you want to "upgrade".
P.S.
Blur (50), Sense (58), TimeScape (63), StageUI (65), iOS (80)
Maemo5 (pr1.2) = 100/99!!!
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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sacque said:
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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So true. That's exactly why i want Samsung to "limit" the amount of times i flash my phone vs limitless installs of cROMs
By the way, the only way to find out what the best cROM is, would be to use it for a while. Due to the fact that there are so many options, i think i'd stick to the official one.
I have an unlocked gNote so it may be different for those that have a carrier issued one and have bloatware on the device.
By the way, reading through hundreds of pages of ppl talking about a specific ROM will only make you more confusing

how good is the current ICS leak?

Should I stay with my LA6 until official ICS arrives? or is the current ICS leak pretty much it?
I have read that the leaks also increase the binary count, is it right?
im sticking with LA6 until a proper release of ICS is available, i got tired of flashing updates week in week out when i had my HD2 and only haviung certain things working
depends on if you can live with the current bugs or not
I'm having a few issues with the Chinese leak.
1.GPS issues cant get a lock (seems to be a baseband issue.
2. Names on my contact list have all changed to Chinese names lol. Strange one
For ultimate stability stick with LA6 trust me it's not worth the aggro
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For the Chinese leak, fast and stable except for one big problem: sleep of death nearly daily, so now in GB again.
I tried 3 ICS roms so far, and reverted back to Darky 3.3 each time...
(compatibility, chinese remains, root issues, unstable recovery, etc)
I hope there will be a stable AOSP version out there soon, Talk 4 is very good!
Why can't the Note be Google's flagship phone, ffs ? xD
i9000gt said:
I'm having a few issues with the Chinese leak.
1.GPS issues cant get a lock (seems to be a baseband issue.
2. Names on my contact list have all changed to Chinese names lol. Strange one
For ultimate stability stick with LA6 trust me it's not worth the aggro
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I am running the Chinese leak, gps locks for me, wifi works, phonebook names are in English and caller id also works, sod only when battery is low. So the outcome is different for different people. Been running it daily for 3 days now.
I did full wipe first, then loaded the rom through desktop odin without pit file. After that flashed the ZCLP1 over as chainfire version doesn't include modem. In regards to yellow triangle, cos it's ICS, just use triangle away app to remove triangle and reset counter to 0, no need for jig.
So far all working well for me. Also I run it at 240dpi, so I am using go launcher and exDialer as replacements. Some people have problems with default SMS, but cos I use go sms pre can't comment cos I have no problems. Lastly, WhatsApp also doesn't fc for me.
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No tethering, deal breaker for me.
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good battery life but few bugs as it first leak
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loonsy said:
I am running the Chinese leak, gps locks for me, wifi works, phonebook names are in English and caller id also works, sod only when battery is low. So the outcome is different for different people. Been running it daily for 3 days now.
I did full wipe first, then loaded the rom through desktop odin without pit file. After that flashed the ZCLP1 over as chainfire version doesn't include modem. In regards to yellow triangle, cos it's ICS, just use triangle away app to remove triangle and reset counter to 0, no need for jig.
So far all working well for me. Also I run it at 240dpi, so I am using go launcher and exDialer as replacements. Some people have problems with default SMS, but cos I use go sms pre can't comment cos I have no problems. Lastly, WhatsApp also doesn't fc for me.
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What baseband were u on to start with?
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little off topic but i dont believe samsung doesnt have a full working ics rom for n7000 from the beginning. i think they are just entertain us with the early ics rom samples. samsung and google want nexus to be the only ics phone on the market for a while longer.
I've been running the i9220 leak since it leaked. I've gotten a random reboot ONCE - it was actually last night. I was at 30% battery. I had just recently reflashed from mobile odin cause my /system partition was borked. I've had just random issues, but it's been a daily driver no problem.
No two chips are the same though - give it a shot - support chainfire and do it right via Mobile Odin. Hate it? Mobile odin back to stock and flash a new rom.
Just my 2cents.
Hello all. I am running the Chinese ICS leak right now as my daily ROM. It is very stable and VERY smooth. Trust me, I am a stickler for functionality, I wouldn't settle for something that keeps crashing all the time. My ROM is the Chainfire repack and you can GO HERE for a guide on how to install it correctly. You can also read some user reports. Give it a go!
acidburn89 said:
Hello all. I am running the Chinese ICS leak right now as my daily ROM. It is very stable and VERY smooth. Trust me, I am a stickler for functionality, I wouldn't settle for something that keeps crashing all the time. My ROM is the Chainfire repack and you can GO HERE for a guide on how to install it correctly. You can also read some user reports. Give it a go!
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Same here. I've been using the Chinese ICS leak (Chainfire version) and everythign has been smooth. Getting exceptional battery life as well.
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No tethering, deal breaker for me.
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Tethering works . At least after a fresh reboot , as is true there is some problems activating wifi that affects the tethering.
kromosto said:
little off topic but i dont believe samsung doesnt have a full working ics rom for n7000 from the beginning. i think they are just entertain us with the early ics rom samples. samsung and google want nexus to be the only ics phone on the market for a while longer.
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The conspiracy lol. I've been running the leak since release and haven't had a deal breaker problem yet. I've experienced screen of death a few times. Battery life is excellent and nova launcher makes it 10 times better. There's not a single thing that gingerbread did that I can't with ics.
My suggestion is to start fresh and leave your gingerbread titanium back ups uninstalled.
Only thing I'm missing is tablet mode.
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ICS is amazing on the Note, been using it for a few days.
good enough for everyday use but still quite far from a release candidate.
I've been using the ICS repack from day dot and I can't go back.
It's awesome for me and the performance is amazing in comparison to ever GB rom I've tried before.
Strangely I haven't had any of the issues people have been complaining about (gps, SOD etc)
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ajamils said:
Same here. I've been using the Chinese ICS leak (Chainfire version) and everythign has been smooth. Getting exceptional battery life as well.
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I wish there was a way to solve the godamn SOD. All I know it's affected by battery life, and the lower it goes, the more frequent it happens.

Incredible S slow with Android 4/ICS

Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
I bought my incredible more than one year ago and I've never thought to unlock and go with custom rom until i got the last OTA. I was so disappointed i flashed Nik's project x almost the same day. You should really consider trying a custom rom. If you like stock appearance you could try android revolution HD i bet it will perform way better than stock ics
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Thanks for your confirmations!
I'll try a custom ROM then.
As for the appearance I use a custom homepage anyway.
After using CM7 for a while, which was great, I upgraded to IceCold 8.1.1. I found it slow and laggy. Then I updated to Official Stock ICS. Same. I updated the radio to the '11' version. Still the same. Now I am using Ice Cold 8.3. Still the same. I did full wipe, and restored apps with Titanium.
I am very frustrated. I want ICS, but I am thinking of going back to CM7.2. I should be happy with IceCold, but I'm not. Slow, laggy, and lots of 'not responding' messages. Facebook app is the worst - almost unusable.
Any ideas anyone? I have:
IceColdSandwich 8.3 Rossi
4EXT Recovery
Blackrose 2.02 S-OFF
Ice cold is not laggy for me at all
How long have you let the ROM settle before deeming it laggy?
What clock speed for CPU? And maybe try go to recovery and clear both cache an dalvik cache, and make sure to do that after every rom flash if you don't already
Just that most of us are having a smooth nearly flawless ICS experience, hard to think only you are having problems
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Guys try cool droid ROM, its the best and fastest Rom....
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@jcr67: It's funny how mine is the other way round. I mean I didn't use the stock ROM (or whatever it is called) and installed CM 7.2 as soon as I got my phone because I didn't like the stock UI at all and I had seen CM 7.2 running on DHD with my cousin so I was kinda impressed. I kept using it until I visited my cousin and comparing both the phones (play store, I had a topic on that) was just awful. My play store searching, loading, agreement would take ages. I had been trying lots of ROMs until I came across Ice cream sandwich ROMs and the speeds were great (Virtuous Vivo) but it was the stock UI again which got me bored. I, yesterday, came across a topic by Nathan about Incredible S ROMs and battery life and after reading each and every post, I knew IceColdSandwich is my next ROM or I am selling this ****. Then and now, this is the best ROM I tried till now. No lag, great UI (after theme installation that was in the topic itself, it's become even greater). The only problem I am having is with my battery life. I had this on other ROMs too. So all I can say is that I am more than just satisfied with this ROM.
Try reinstalling the ROM by after running the SuperWipe script (inside the Android Revolution HD ROM topic.)
Sorry for the long post.
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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i have the same problem ..
could any one help how to return to official old Android ROM before 4.0. version ?
Update - It is getting better!
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Ignore my earlier comments, re IceCold.
I always clear dalvik, wipe etc, when installing. But I repeated this anyway, just to make sure. I let it settle down. It got better. And better. And now I have V6 supercharged it.
It's pretty great now.
Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
Usually I ensure that the following are disabled unless I really want them:
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- GPS
- Vibration (keyboard)
- keyboard tones
- USB debugging
Optional: Automatic brightness turned off and set brightness to comfortable level
If you are overclocking it try to use it at usual clock speed. Overclocking consumes more battery.
jcr67 said:
Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
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I started to use custom ROM after upgrade to ICS. Laggy, even.the apps & notification drawer also laggy.
for me the latest ota ics upgrade is quite good, just sometimes i can feel that things just dun get smooth enough, made my mind and tried few custom roms. Most of them are just really gud in term of performances and looks. Now im gud to go with ice cold rom, much better than official rom of course, and on the battery issue, just make sure u turn off anything u dun need when u dun need them
I find ARHD 3.0.1 with V6 Supercharger script properly installed (no KickAssKernelizer cos I want to wait for a custom kernel) and ultrasmooth rosie.apk to be a fairly smooth running experience.
Tip:
I've improved battery life and reduced common running temperature and hence increased performance/stability/speed by simply running GSM only instead of GSM/HSPA unless I'm in a good signal zone and want to browse data quickly. (I'm talking 2G/3G switching in the mobile network settings.. may not be labelled gsm/hspa in some ROMs). This is a good bet, especially when indoors. I live in a basement so signal drops are more steep for the higher frequency 3G signal.
This should be true for any ROM. Anywhere your data browsing is slow to heart-rendingly unusable.. should definitely save battery, reduce temp, and improve text and call reception to switch to GSM only!
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OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
Biges said:
OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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There's a thread about this guy enjoying ics as it speeds up the 3d performance.
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Biges said:
OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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I find project X to be really quick and doesn't seem to struggle with multiple apps running I.e spotify, Facebook and chrome.
Easy to flash too!
We Want ICS
For 'We Want CS' I still can see lag when open apps drawer & pull down notification. Anyway, its still better than OTA update.
markj338 said:
Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
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Dear markj338,
i'm new to this, i had same experience with the OTA ICS too, so bad.....
Can u guide me how to s-off , upgrade to icecoldsandwich 8.3.3 ?

How does jellybean run on this lil guy

Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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I prefer cm10linero optimized odex version with blood kernel and feel it is silky smooth. There is so many ROMs out that it is a candy store with something for every taste. 4.1.2 version is standards now with 4.2 in works. Bang for bucks this cell has been very good and beyond reliable to me.
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Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
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md1008 said:
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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smartguy044 said:
take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
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Pretty much what I was going to say right to the last word (except I haven't owned an S3).
I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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Lol yeah if I do sell my gs3 I am sure I will miss the 2gb of ram. I am stalking eBay for a damn good deal
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Just scored a new one from some guy in Hong Kong on Ebay...its was as described for $117 with fee shipping. Just took 2 Weeks to get here...love auction sniper.
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ReckYoChips said:
Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Can i flash this directly from stock gb?
THANK YOU!
No
1st get root
Get twrp or cwm installed
Rom wipe cwm or cache/dalvik cache/system wipe twrp
Now flash
Always make backup prior to above
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I've heard that CM10 can have trouble with 3rd party camera aps, such as bank check deposit etc. Anyone found that? If so what is the best option for that? I haven't flashed to JB yet mainly because I don't want to lose that checking account option.
That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Well if you had a nandroid of both, you could just restore either whenever you wanted to, provided that you make a nandroid every time you change something.
Hmmmm. Cumbersome just to have check deposit. I'll have to think on this for a while. I suppose it takes a few minutes each time: make nandroid in CM 10, flash CM 9, deposit check, flash CM 10 and do this for each check. I don't do checks very often so it may still be worthwhile.
Do you happen to know if this is an issue being addressed and just might be fixed for, say, a CM11 release?

I've had it - going back to ICS

Well I'm fed up with this Jelly bean garbage! For you that say certain ones (Liquid smooth seems common) are 'fast', you're only kidding yourself.
JB on the bionic is terrible. It lags and is buggy (on after market's at least). I give props to the developers who have spent time making it usable for the most part.
I'm going back to ICS roms.
I had the same problem for a while. It wasn't until after I flashed Blurry JB after the third time did it work lag free. I had no idea what was going on but I just followed the advice of the developers and deleted the slot 1, wiped everything and reinstalled it.
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
I thought you can't go back to ics once you have jb. No?
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
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I certainly agree that some percentage of users experience lag or other problems and I don't doubt that you are one of them. Not sure what that percentage is though. I did an FDR after the JB update and clear cache once in a while. I sync manually and turned off Google Now, but use Voice Search extensively. Various settings, sync options, location services and some apps can cause problems that have little to do with the rom.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I'll try and update it to JB then I suppose. Thanks for the tip.
I get 2-10 second lags when doing a lot of tasks.
I have been reluctant to go from my extremely functional ICS based bionic running Icarus HD Remix to JB. I have not seen any post that convinces me to make the jump.
I have JB on my tablet, my wife has it on her Samsung S3, and my phone as it is kicks butt.
Why should I upgrade from stable to JB??
Thanks anyone with constructive responses.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I deleted all my partitions (slots), uninstalled safestrap, did a Full data reset/cache wipe. Downloaded and installed JB stock (OTA). Then installed safestrap and Liquid Smooth and it is still super laggy.
It'll be fine for a few swipes/screens then all of the sudden you go to open an app or go to the homescreen and it takes forever (5+ seconds). I've also had it reboot once randomly tonight as well as freeze with nothing on the screen but the 4 lights on the bottom lit up.
I dunno what else to do. Maybe it's time to start looking at new phone.
Well good news. One of the guys at work broke his phone last night and wants to upgrade to an S4. Since we have insurance on it, all I have to do is pay $100 and I get brand new S3...should be in tomorrow. :good:
I reformatted my phone twice, and i got heavy lag after a long while. Something was definitely up with JB. GB was fine, ICS got a bit worse, JB is just completely unusable with lag.
A emergency phone call will lag for 60 seconds (absolutely unacceptable), as well as sending messages. Keyboard pops up after 10 seconds, typing a simple sentence takes over a minute, and sending just barely responds. Although chrome is known to be pretty slow compared to browsers, it was also completely unusable for 90 seconds of lag from opening the app to retrieving search results.
I killed off a lot of apps, as well as clear out images/messages, and other cache/data things. But still, it crawled like a slug.
I gave up yesterday, and just installed CM10.1 . Already, I feel relieved that I don't feel restricted by anything. Bionic is in the RC stage for cm10.1. It does all of the necessary things flawlessly so far. I suggest everyone hwo's having slowdown issues with this stock bloatware to move over to CM or some custom rom. Keep FAR FAR away from it.
For now, i feel like I have a completely new phone since GB, and it is keeping up with the responsiveness of my Nexus 7.
But, if you are very inclined on staying on stock: I'm not sure what will help you speed it up again, other than completely wiping it again and reformatting.
Mine was still laggy even on aftermarket roms (JB).
I have it listed on craigslist now since I'm rocking an S3 since last Friday.
No lag on this bad boy.:victory:
I've been using FlyingJelly and it's great! My wife is stock JB and she has no complaints either.
Lag caused by the Overclocking?
In another thread, someone suggested that the lag many bionic users experienced could be fixed by clocking the CPU back down from 1.2 to 1 GHz. I tried this using the CPU Control under ROM Toolbox and I have found this worked for my phone, although I haven't found a way to make it permanent (it seems to change back to the 1.2 GHz setting, most of the time when trying to download something over a bad wifi or 4G connection). But it has helped with the frustration to know that when it lags, I will find the setting just needs to be changed back.
I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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There isn't unless you want there to be one; as has been beaten to death on this forum, any updates are completely 100% personal preferences. If you're happy with what you have, then more power to ya!
thanks. I've always been on the edge with this phone, loading leaked upgrades, roms, etc. but now that it works nicely, I'm sticking with ICS & Icarus remixed. overclocked...
I wish I could go back to ICS. JB hasn't been able to keep my underclock at 600 and keeps resetting it back to 300.
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