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I have successfully custom flashed Sense 3.0 with 2.3 gingerbread for my incredible S phone. It only took 3 long days. I am very happy but what now? I want this to be my permanent ROM. Is there anything else that I am recommended to do now? I was reading about how you can make your phone almost like a stock phone meaning S-OFF and Unroot. Not too sure if that is necessary. What do you guys think?
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what Custom Rom are you on and how did you flash Sense 3.0.
there's a lot of threads hear and your initial details really don't provide much useful information.
I am on Virtuous Unity 1.27.0 Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid, I flashed it through 4EXTRecovery_v2.1.0_RC1_vivo.
I also had to flash a radio file to my ROM afterwards. I did that through the SDK software. Instructions from here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_FAQ Here is a list of Radio files for your specific provider/region : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12870734&postcount=1
I S-OFF'd my phone through Alpha RevX..there is also a you tube tutorial on how to do it. If anyone has anymore questions on how to do it then msg me!
So now what is left to do?????? Any other procedures? Besides flashing more Roms!
saying the custom rom, radio, cwm would have been enough information. anyways i see that you're new so it's all good.
so the question is, What do you want to do with your phone. after customizing it, are you okay with performance? no bugs? What do YOU want to do with your phone?
I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee
guys I think this belongs in "General"
IncredibleSlover said:
I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee
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What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
Awesome thanks for the reply
hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.
exnerjan said:
Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.
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you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.
hussainmushahid said:
you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.
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That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
doctorsax said:
What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.
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Awesome man, thats what I wanted to hear
hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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You mean I wont be able to recover my old settings if I have restored it?
I dont care really if I cant. Is it because I am now 2.3 gingerbread????
Well it doesnt matter because I love this new ROM and will be keeping it forever
uh oh this is bad. no more warranty for my phone :s
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That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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and know how to do it to the S-ON? Please.
tpbklake said:
That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.
hussainmushahid said:
I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.
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Yes I saw that this morning. Basically AlphaRevX has a special HBOOT you can 'downgrade' with that you must flash and then using the special HBOOT you can flash an official HTC HBOOT. End result is S-OFF and you have a standard HTC HBOOT.
Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
I know I have to relock bootloader, back to stock RUU, but what about Son Soff stuff? Thank you people!
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium.
I know I need to know as well I want the bell radios back .also if I want to keep them at a later the for a new from do I transfer over the system folder ?
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But s-off is only so you can flash stuff through recovery and not fast boot .and some devices came s-off from factory . What I'm iffy about as well is do I run the ruu from bell again that's gingerbread then do the ota ? Because h-boot I thought couldn't be downgraded ? I hope a dev sees this .I hate People having to put up with All the echoing in the phone calls
With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
ideaLduK said:
With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
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So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )
Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?
mohcho said:
So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )
Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?
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I havent S-ON prior to do this, it worked perfectly. I only relocked BL with fastboot oem lock then RUUed then OTAed. After that I reunlocked BL and, flashed twrp recovery and flashed my rom (already rooted )
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?
I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?
I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.
mohcho said:
So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?
I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?
I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.
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If i was you and i wanted to get root, id do it manually instead of doing it via supertool. Look in the stickies of the dev subforum to get the procedure. Otherwise PM me maybe i can help you
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.
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IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.
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Totally agree with that. Otherwise, your phone could be transformed into a BRICK.
*warning* noob content!
I used the Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v1.2 to unlock, root, and install the clockwork recovery.
The OTA ICS update fails - it just goes into fastboot and that's it.
So I'm guessing I need to install the original recovery?
I tried finding that, but have been unsuccessful, any help provided is welcome.
Do I also need to apply the stock RUU? Where do I find that one?
On my old Legend HTC support actually supplied me with the stock RUU.....
you should be able to download it from htc just make sure you relock your bootloader if it is unlocked before running the ruu
Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
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If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
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If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
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Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
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No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
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No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
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Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Yes, you can unlock your HBOOT using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then you can install CWM and root the ROM, but it will void your warranty.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
fridgie said:
Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
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But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
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here is a link to my new guide on how to do all of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
Is it necessary to s-off for installing custom roms? is it more safe to install the roms and kernels like we do in one-x?
thx
kami2k said:
Is it necessary to s-off for installing custom roms? is it more safe to install the roms and kernels like we do in one-x?
thx
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no its not necessary to S-OFF for installing custom ROMs, all you need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP/CWM):good:
and yes its totally safe to install roms and kernels without PC unlike on One X :laugh:
just flash 'em from recovery
The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
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The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
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S-OFF is needed I think if you want to change HBOOT or downgrade OS versions for ex from 4.2.2 to 4.2.1, but how about correct CID and S-ON again?
EddyOS said:
The only benefit to S-OFF is you have a get out to get back to stock if you need to as you can flash one of the early RUUs that leaked. If HTC released RUUs to the public there would be no need to have S-OFF unless changing the splash screen is important to you
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So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
htcm7 said:
So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
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Yes. You would only need s-off if an ruu isn't available for your cid.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
If you have to ask then no....
S-OFF often introduces more problems then it's worth, especially when your not very experienced. It is a great tool to fix stuff when you really screw up, but it also allows a lot more control then most people can handle. If you so S-OFF then just remember to never S-ON unless you are already back 100% stock.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Anyway if you are on the HBOOT 1.54 you wont be able to S-OFF...
htcm7 said:
So without S-OFF, I can't go back to stock ROM after installing custom ROM, right?
What about before installing a custom ROM, I create a backup with TWRP, can I use this backup to return to stock?
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You will be able to go back to stock if you can get hold of the original recovery as well as using your backup (for the love of God make a backup!!!). S-OFF means you can use one of the rare publicly-leaked RUUs to get back to stock
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You will be able to go back to stock if you can get hold of the original recovery as well as using your backup (for the love of God make a backup!!!). S-OFF means you can use one of the rare publicly-leaked RUUs to get back to stock
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Sorry, not sure if i understand your information correctly.
What do you mean by 'get hold of the original recovery'?
If I backup stock ROM using TWRP and when I want to go back to stock, can I just restore my backup without a use of RUU?
htcm7 said:
Sorry, not sure if i understand your information correctly.
What do you mean by 'get hold of the original recovery'?
If I backup stock ROM using TWRP and when I want to go back to stock, can I just restore my backup without a use of RUU?
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Yes but you wouldn't be able to install OTA updates without the original recovery image
so only if u want ruu u do s-off otherwise no reason......
S-OFF allows you to flash an RUU earlier than your current build, e.g. I can flash the 1.28.401.7 on top of my current 2.24.401.8 whereas without S-OFF I wouldn't be able to
but if a new rom came with new built u can install that, who needs s-off then?
As I originally said, you don't need S-OFF if you have no need to go back to stock. If you need to send the phone to HTC for repair, having S-OFF means you can get the phone back to 100% stock and showing 'locked' as opposed to 'relocked' so they won't know you've ever done anything to the phone.
Otherwise you're taking a chance on HTC refusing the repair