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Hi guys, due the problem withe the OEM 1230mah Battery, i decided to buy a Non-OEM 1500mAh Battery for my HD7 (T-Mobile).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160546276534
It fit perfectly my HD7 without having another "modded" backcover. But i have a question about charging this battery.
HD7 is designed for the 1230mAh battery, and you guys all know the phone must be turned on in order to charge the battery (because of Windows Phone 7 OS). So, it means, the OS controll how the battery would be charge(like when the power reach 1230mAh, the OS will stop the charging process? Is that right?). And my question is, if i charge this non-oem 1500mAh battery like an OEM one (leave the battery inside the phone and plug the charger in), can the battery be charged full to 1500mAh or it will be charged to 1230mAh only like a OEM one?
Sorry for my bad English. Thanks!
Strike_Eagle said:
Hi guys, due the problem withe the OEM 1230mah Battery, i decided to buy a Non-OEM 1500mAh Battery for my HD7 (T-Mobile).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160546276534
It fit perfectly my HD7 without having another "modded" backcover. But i have a question about charging this battery.
HD7 is designed for the 1230mAh battery, and you guys all know the phone must be turned on in order to charge the battery (because of Windows Phone 7 OS). So, it means, the OS controll how the battery would be charge(like when the power reach 1230mAh, the OS will stop the charging process? Is that right?). And my question is, if i charge this non-oem 1500mAh battery like an OEM one (leave the battery inside the phone and plug the charger in), can the battery be charged full to 1500mAh or it will be charged to 1230mAh only like a OEM one?
Sorry for my bad English. Thanks!
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not necessarily, there are docks available that let you charge a battery separately maybe that would be of service to you?
Well, i might need it, and i may not. I did charge this battery like a normal way last night and this is the result.
I used the phone like hell today, and it did show me the red light and the warning messege about low battery (I was using it from 8 AM, and it did show me the red light on 2h30 PM). But then i kept listen to music for the whole 45 mins through my earphones, left it inside my bag when i was going to practice for whole 2 hrs, and then made 2 phone calls, one 3 mins and one like 10 mins and it totally ran out of power.
Using phone from 8h AM to 7PM, heavily 2G EGRPS Using, Web Browsing, games, no Wifi, no 3G, music all the way.
Normally, with the stock Battery, the phone would be dead by the afternoon, this thing do make the phone last longer, but not much. 1500mAh?, i don't think so, this thing should be around 1300mAh to 1400mAh.
Gonna Re-test tomorrow.
let us know...i'm interested in a backup battery...i used my phone today (browse web, text, and games) from 8am and by 2pm it was RIP....i really need a new battery
I tested it today again.
8:15AM : Removed from battery charger (Wifi Off, Bluetooth Off, 3G Off, EGRPS on, Silent, Automatic brightness)
Used for Web Surfing on EGPRS, Mail checking, Note taking, a little bit gaming, red light appeared by 1.30PM, and the battery still existed until 5PM (still listened to music, screen off)
And i am sure if you are a heavy user, this thing will help you extend the life-time of the phone pretty good. But you still need to recharge everynight. I think
i found this one online (HTC HD 7 T9292/ 1500mAh, standard battery 46.00USD), you can find here:
http://www.mugenpoweronline.com/pro...d=841&osCsid=5482875b02e61dce5cde44566be0c4d0
i'm skeptical on the ebay batteries...
Well, somehow, this battery does extend the life time of this phone, it work for me from the morning until the evening, when i have already been home, is not bad, and acceptable with the 4.3 inch Screen.
Pay $46 for it? i don't think it is a good idea either.
Quick update: After Post No-Do and No-Do update, i realize one thing, now the battey bar of Windows Phone 7 display correctly the amount of the battery i believe. Before both 2 update, the red light would be turned on by the phone way sooner than the actual point that the battery was nearly dead.
Yesterday at the baseball match, i used my HD7, listened to music "non-stop", volume = 18, through headset, screen turned off, from 10AM to 5 PM and the red light was not even on.
The other day I went and bought a USB micro cable for my phone, which was different from the original one provided in my phone's package.
I never used it to charge my phone's battery until 2 days ago, which in the morning I attached the cable to my AC Adapter charger and started charging my battery, that charged in an hour or so. I got somehow surprised because of the speed but I thought maybe I got carried away by work.
The amazing thing is it's been 2.5 days from then and my phone still has something around 15% battery charge on it.
Did anyone here ever charge the phone with any cable other than the one shipped in the package ? Or maybe come accross something like this ? Is it going to ruin my battery ?
I had a similar situation a few months back when my battery was out of juice for about 4 or 5 hours (it ran out in the afternoon and i couldn't charge until much later on that night). After I charged it over night i got about 2 days out of mine too.
Wp7 probably still lacks a consistent and accurate way of telling battery life, so the phone may show it is fully charged when it is not.
Ones i charge the phone 100% i then browse my photos and broawse apps... and suddently my battery is half empty in under 2 hours time... its strange. because im not playing games with it.
I can strech my batter put over 30 hours, but that with turning everything off, It would be interesting to know how you use it, and what you have installed and turned on or off.
I have 2 or 3 days battery life when the phone is on airplane mode. But less than 1 day with regular usage.
the problem is Radio in my opinion.
First off, I tried searching and just got results from all over, so hope this hasn't been asked.
With the addition to android the DayDreaming settings, I love it. When I'm at work, or at my desk, it's just nice to have that clock there for me as 99% of the time I don't see the clock on the computer. Now I've discovered, that my phone can use my PC's connection, yay!
How does this affect my battery? The screen is always on, the battery is always charging. Seems to me that the battery on the device would not like this, but that is not my area of knowledge.
Thanks
P.S. anyone got a really good clock / calendar daydreaming app?
I wouldn't want my screen to stay on for that long, to be honest with you, regardless of whether or not the device is connected to a power source. I remember that with Galaxy devices, the screen colors end up fading and there have even been cases of sort of like screen burns for staying on too long. lol
It shouldn't have a burn in issue, it's always moving.
My current daydream app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mpelant.deskclock&hl=en
Loses battery %
I have tried to use the Daydream on my Nexus 4 and I don't like it. It will not charge efficiently, in fact I maybe losing %! I even have my N4 plugged into the N10 battery pack and I DO NOT get a quicker charge to the battery while daydream is on. I will update this in 2 hours and give real results. I will have daydream on while charging with my N10 battery pack directly plugged into wall outlet. My phone as of 12:50pm EST is at 73% with only the Clock on as a daydream. Update at 3PM with results.
Update: 2 hours of charging and only 9% increase of battery life. So using daydream is detrimental to a fast charge. Remember I was also using a higher output charger (Nexus 10 stock charger) than the stock charger that came with the Nexus 4.
I haven't fully tested the charge %:hours but when I use it, I have the brightness set super low and that seems to help it get an ok charge. It's def not super fast but not really worried about charge time.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
i hate this daydreaming app. I have a HTC M8. Overheating my phone, my battery barely gets charged (1% every 15 minutes). Really sucks!! I dont recommend this piece of crAPP to anyone
My galaxy s4 has a daydream option in the settings, it doesn't seem to affect charging and it hasn't burned anything into my screen, I just recommend using that. I think it's in the display options.
I was under the impression the charging capabilities of this phone were insane? My note 4 is charging very slow even with the phone off. Ive toggled the Fast Charge on and off (battery page in settings) and regardless of what i chose its very slow. I think my Note 3 charged faster than this. Is something wrong with my charger or my phone? Should i echange it for another?
Exchange it. With the included charger mine charges in about an hour.
Hgaara said:
I was under the impression the charging capabilities of this phone were insane? My note 4 is charging very slow even with the phone off. Ive toggled the Fast Charge on and off (battery page in settings) and regardless of what i chose its very slow. I think my Note 3 charged faster than this. Is something wrong with my charger or my phone? Should i echange it for another?
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The way fast charge works is with wall adapter and cable that came with phone and screen off. Another way is phone off. Takes a bit over an hour when phone dead
NOTE 4
Looks like I'll exhange it then, cause with the phone off, it took about an hour to go from 25% to 38%. Its strange cause my note 3 was usable while using GPS, and phone connected to car charger, not even a 2.1amp one and it would charge quickly. Note 4, actually went from 38% to 52% in about 3 and a half hours the same way
Mine is the opposite, charges fast and and drains fast. When I unplug it will go from 100% to 95% in 5 minutes with no use and screen off. I tried several battery app with no success to fix the problem.
Hgaara said:
Looks like I'll exhange it then, cause with the phone off, it took about an hour to go from 25% to 38%. Its strange cause my note 3 was usable while using GPS, and phone connected to car charger, not even a 2.1amp one and it would charge quickly. Note 4, actually went from 38% to 52% in about 3 and a half hours the same way
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Fast charge will only work screen off. If u using GPS then phone is awake and u get slow charge
Also make sure fast charge is clicked on.
NOTE 4
Did you take off the plastic stickers from the charger? Mine started fast charging after I did that. I think it was covering part of the connection somewhere.
I hope u connected to ac and not USB check battery in settings make sure it says charging ad and not charging usb
Yes mine says it is charging via AC. I havent removed the plastic from the charger, ill try it. The weird part is, last night i had 5 percent battery. At around 2:30 i turned off the phone and connected to the charger. I wake up around 9:30, a whole 7 hours later, and the phone only charged up to 89%. It takes 7 hours to not even charge full percent? Is that normal? Granted, if i turned off the phone or even had it on, my Note 3 charged within 2 hours or less even from dead. So i should just exhange the phone right?
Hgaara said:
Yes mine says it is charging via AC. I havent removed the plastic from the charger, ill try it. The weird part is, last night i had 5 percent battery. At around 2:30 i turned off the phone and connected to the charger. I wake up around 9:30, a whole 7 hours later, and the phone only charged up to 89%. It takes 7 hours to not even charge full percent? Is that normal? Granted, if i turned off the phone or even had it on, my Note 3 charged within 2 hours or less even from dead. So i should just exhange the phone right?
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I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
Zippy1970 said:
I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
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This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
Battery recalibration ... Many techs say it's a placebo. But, I will follow this manual, just in case.
I do confirm, though, that with L 5.0.2 charging takes longer, phone drains faster with the same as before apps and usage, phone is often hot, and I've started to get regular 'can't charge, your phone uses more power than available from charger'.
Re phone uses more power than available, it happens with all three original HTC chargers I have, so I have to use the charger from an Asus tablet (1.5A output).
I haven't done the recalibration thing but I did some measurements and I now know why it's charging so slowly, just not what is causing it. The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. This means that when using the phone, it's draining faster than it can charge. I also think it's not switching to standby mode causing the high drain. Often the phone gets hot when it's in my pocket (when it is supposed to be in standby mode) meaning something is still draining the battery fast.
I will do the calibration thing and see if that helps.
I just did the reset thing (holding power + vol up + vol down) for two minutes. It's now charging but I can see it's still not charging in high mode. It's still charging at only 400mA.
Edit: Phone says it wil take 10 hours to charge (it's at 30% now).
Annoying, I know, but I'd factory reset the phone just to make sure the update has 'taken' correctly
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... The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. ...
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Sounds logical. How did you find it out? Instrumental, or through a phone menu?
I have checked Setings/Power. Mine says Charging on AC, which supposedly means high charging mode.
PS. Again, whatever it might mean, when I get a 'phone uses more power than..' error, I connect the phone to a 1.5A charger (compared to original HTC 1.0A) and it solves the problem. I'm not happy with this solution, though.
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Sounds logical. How did you find it out? Instrumental, or through a phone menu?
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There are a few ways I can measure this. I have a "Charger Doctor", one of those inline USB voltage/current meters and I have an "Energy Meter" which measures wattage going out of a 110/220V socket. Both confirm each others measurements. The Charger Doctor says my phone is being charged at 5.1V at 0.4A, and the energy meter says the charger consumes about 2.5W which is about right (the charger looses some energy through heat and the Charger Doctor consumes a bit of energy as well).
But...
To be sure, I tested a few different (but identical) chargers and changing the charger made no difference. But - and here comes the strange part - I tested about 20 different USB cables and with only two my phone charged at 1.0A (which I assume is the M7's max charging current). With all the others it charged with 0.3A-0.5A. Only with those two cables it charges in high charging mode. So apparently something changed in the charger detection. Before the update I was able to charge the phone in high charging mode with other cables as well.
Also, it seems like it's now discharging not as fast as before, but I will be sure tomorrow after it has fully charged and after I've used it all day.
Edit: Yep, charging is at it's normal speed now. It's at 60% and the phone says it will be 1 hour and 1 minute until it's fully charged.
Edit2: Of the two cables it charges at 1.0A with, one is the original charger cable that came with the HTC, and the other is a cable that came with a Duracell Power Bank.
Well, after the three finger calibration, charging seems faster, and I think battery holds longer (or maybe I want to think it does, because still not sure).
One additional observation is in about 20% cases my phone is stuck during boot until I connect or disconnect the charger for a second. By connecting or disconnecting the charger, something triggers the power state and the phone boots normally.
So yes, you may be right about new power management in Android 5.
(I'm now on IC7.0.0 + ElementalX 20.0, HTC M7 Int'l))
Well, even though charging times seem normal now, it is slightly erratic. I can see the percentage making jumps up and sometimes down while charging.
Also, battery life still is very poor. Battery now lasts until halfway through the day while before it would easily last all day...
Is there a way to revert to KitKat? Other than a lot of annoyances I haven't noticed a single advantage using Lollipop.
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This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
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that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
carinfex said:
that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.[/QUOTE
i have done everything i can i even have a battery saver but soon as i put wifi on it just drains so fast maybe a new battery will help as this phone is like 2nd hand so maybe battery dying
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Factory reset
I had terrible battery problems after T-Mobile upgraded my HTC One (M7) to Lollipop. The phone was constantly awake and churning with the GPS probing for a signal every few seconds. I'd lose 50% of my battery in a couple of hours. I went through the battery recalibration suggested by HTC support, but it didn't work well. Finally I did the factory reset. It worked perfectly! Now my battery life is better than ever and the phone will go well over 24 hours on a single charge with normal usage. Recovering from the factory reset was easier than I anticipated. Google Play Store remembered and reloaded all my apps automatically. The only headache was having to log in to everything again. Well worth the effort.
I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.
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I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.[/QUOT
leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
Zippy1970 said:
I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
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when i woke up this morning my m7 was 100% it's now 11;10 and it,s now 70%
I'm getting exactly the same problem.
HTC support said they never heard about such a problem and their conclusion is to send the phone to be repaired
I don't know how to rollback to previous version and it doesn't looks like to be a new fixed version on the way.
Or at list I haven't heard about it.
I also noticed it doesn't make much of a difference if I turn on energy savings mode.
With KitKat, my phone would easily last the whole day without energy savings mode. Now with lollipop I have to hook it up to a charger in the evening - even with energy savings mode enabled.
The thing that sucks the most is that my phone drains in alarming rate when playing a game, or listening to online radio or watching youtube videos. 30 minutes and battery drops from 100% to 50%. And the phone gets really, really hot. Before lollipop, it would drain perhaps from 100% to 85% and the phone would not heat up at all.
There are so many annoying bugs/features with lollipop, I'm considering an iPhone for the very first time ever as my next phone. Mind you, I've never been a fan of Apple stuff. But Android is just getting ridiculously bloated and simply doesn't work very well anymore. It looks like every update makes my phone less usable. And I hate the fact Google thinks it's perfectly fine to disable/remove stuff that people have come to depend on. Like my notes (amongst man other things). Google in all its wisdom has removed the Notes app making all my notes inaccessible. The only way to get my notes back is to install some third party app from the Play Store and have it transfer my notes to the cloud. First of all, I don't want a third party app handling my notes. And I most certainly don't want my notes stored in the cloud. I travel quite a bit and I don't have internet access everywhere I go, making my notes inaccessible again.