I'm kind of confused in this..if the boot loader is locked how are we able to flash safe strap and stuff? And has anyone tried the moto unlock command on their phone? I don't get why the boot loader is jnlockable on most of the new ones but this one isn't yet
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I believe safestrap and bootstrap get on there by some kind of exploit, outside of the bootloader. Whatever it is, its wicked and the Droid3/XT860 community has some amazing people!
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Atrixn00b said:
I'm kind of confused in this..if the boot loader is locked how are we able to flash safe strap and stuff? And has anyone tried the moto unlock command on their phone? I don't get why the boot loader is jnlockable on most of the new ones but this one isn't yet
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It's have tried running unlock commands through adb and get "command not found " or something along those lines. It appears that a lower level check/encryption has been enabled on these phones which doesn't allow us to unlock the bootloader.
Hashcode created safestrap/bootstrap by doing something in the 2nd init phase of the boot process. With the locked bootloader we have to run the stock kernel which makes it really hard to get ics hardware features working.
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Is there no other phone that uses a similar boot as the Droid 3 with low level encryption/
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Is there no other phone that uses a similar boot as the Droid 3 with low level encryption/
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I think all of the recent phones by Motorola, after the Atrix have the same locked boot loader. I could be wrong though, but that's what I've sort of observed.
That'd make sense considering or looks like) they use the same exploit. But if this one is older wouldn't that make it easier?
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I can't find anything about how to detect a unlocked bootloader. I have a rooted N1 and want to know if my bootloader was unlocked by the former owner.
Can anyone tell me how to find out if the bootloader is unlocked?
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When you start the phone, at the bit with the coloured x. Is there a padlock? If there is, it has been unlocked.
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Oke, thanks! Then mine isn't unlocked!
Gonna search how to unlock it!
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fastboot oem unlock
Peasy.
I have another question:
I've been searching about unlocking the bootloader, but what are the advantages of doing so?
I can already install custom roms.
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Safer radio flash, you'll never be stuck without root. Can boot a new kernel/recovery without flashing it.
Only way to access phone if system and recovery become corrupt...
You can always unlock the bootloader later, but remember that you use the power button when unlocking the bootloader. If you have an iffy power button, you may want to unlock before the burton dies...
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Thanks for the answers! I've unlocked the bootloader and when I was done I got a lot of FC's. So now I reflashed CM7 #18 and it seams to be working fine!
Thanks a lot!
But why would you wanna boot a kernel or recovery without flasing it?
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Could be one of many reasons...
Say you want to restore a backup made with Clockwork, but prefer Amon Ra as your regular recovery, you can just boot into Clockwork, adbd not have to think about restoring Amon Ra, etc...
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I'm sure this has been tried but haven't seen it anywhere.
Has anyone confirmed the bootloader still being locked after the .906 update, say by doing fastboot oem unlock?
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daimerion said:
I'm sure this has been tried but haven't seen it anywhere.
Has anyone confirmed the bootloader still being locked after the .906 update, say by doing fastboot oem unlock?
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I have not seen it but sounds like it will be cool to see because the bootloader update was the last update we will get for the droid 3 i hope some one will test it
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Okay, I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can answer.
1). What is the situation with the boot loader on the One? I know there is a developer edition, but are all of the other versions going to be locked down? Also, since there is a Dev version I assume the one won't be on their unlock website, right?
2) my second question is more about HTC in general, and s-off. I know it stands for security off, but what does it do exactly? I've heard its needed for flashing certain things like kernels, but I don't understand why that would he necessary if the boot loader is already unlocked.
Im on Verizon, hoping and praying that the One comes to us, if not I'm probably leaving them. Can't wait to get my hands on this great phone, and hopefully help HTC come out of the dumps
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Chirp chirp? Are there not even any crickets in here?
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The One can be bootloader unlocked through htcdev. No problems there
Bootloader unlocked lets you flash custom firmware, but S-OFF gives you full control over what you want to do. This stands for NAND locked or NAND unlocked. What that does is give you access to normally restricted partitions on the phone, such as the boot and radio partitions. Even with bootloader unlocked, you need to flash the boot.img separately if you do not have S-OFF and radios cant be flashed
And doing the chirp chirp thing doesnt encourage people to answer. Just a tip.
Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Technically its still needed, but theyve developed a workaround which is essentially fastbooting it from the phone.
Also correction, its not only on Tegra processors that this is an issue, its on all HTC devices because they all come NAND locked.
It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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ant78 said:
It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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One of the things that can be done with s-off is flash a kernel image right from the phone without a PC
AllyOmega said:
So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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As said above me, flashing kernels during a rom flash (the rom zip will attempt to do it, but s-on prevents the boot.img from taking) without a computer or a workaround like SuperBoot, and you can also flash radios with s-off
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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CID can be changed to flash a different region ROM.
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And also to reflash HBOOT so that it says LOCKED instead of RELOCKED for warranty purposes.
Hey all,
I've been using my Xperia T on the Rogers network here in Canada for a couple months and wanted to throw a custom rom on it.
After doing some research unfortunately it is Not possible to unlock my bootloader. There is also no way to boot into "Recovery Mode" which I assume has something to do with the locked bootloader.
I've noticed that you can downgrade to .303 but those roms look like they are for LT30p. Will they work with my LT30a?
I was hoping to get a version of CM on my phone. Is it even possible? I've read that maybe I can load certain roms but will be unable to modify the kernel? Will that work ok?
Thanks for you time!
Basttrax said:
Hey all,
I've been using my Xperia T on the Rogers network here in Canada for a couple months and wanted to throw a custom rom on it.
After doing some research unfortunately it is Not possible to unlock my bootloader. There is also no way to boot into "Recovery Mode" which I assume has something to do with the locked bootloader.
I've noticed that you can downgrade to .303 but those roms look like they are for LT30p. Will they work with my LT30a?
I was hoping to get a version of CM on my phone. Is it even possible? I've read that maybe I can load certain roms but will be unable to modify the kernel? Will that work ok?
Thanks for you time!
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if you are willing to go for CM then the answer is NO. you need to have a BL unlocked device with you. did you check with http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com ? and your mobile as well to confirm whether it is unlock-able or not. Check Here ..
but even with a locked BL you can install custom ROMs to spice your device. there are some ROMs which are specifically designed to be used with locked BLs.. that means they will run on Stock Kernel with customer ROMs.. .. for my LT30at (BL locked) i'm using a custom ROM
Yes it is indeed locked and cannot be unlocked. There's one Rom for my device I saw but it looked dated.
Rom suggestions for a locked bootloader?
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Basttrax said:
Yes it is indeed locked and cannot be unlocked. There's one Rom for my device I saw but it looked dated.
Rom suggestions for a locked bootloader?
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You should be able to use any of the custom ROMs in the development section for locked bootloaders. I have an LT30at and I have used all of the ones in there at different times.
Basttrax said:
Hey all,
I've been using my Xperia T on the Rogers network here in Canada for a couple months and wanted to throw a custom rom on it.
After doing some research unfortunately it is Not possible to unlock my bootloader. There is also no way to boot into "Recovery Mode" which I assume has something to do with the locked bootloader.
I've noticed that you can downgrade to .303 but those roms look like they are for LT30p. Will they work with my LT30a?
I was hoping to get a version of CM on my phone. Is it even possible? I've read that maybe I can load certain roms but will be unable to modify the kernel? Will that work ok?
Thanks for you time!
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The link in my signature may be of use to you
you CAN boot into recovery mode but you have to install it first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012738&highlight=cwm
to install it you must first root your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
rooting may not work for your current up to date rom
so you may have to flash an older rom first (I found one in bin4rys signature) http://uploaded.net/f/bd4cif
Throbin Wood said:
The link in my signature may be of use to you
you CAN boot into recovery mode but you have to install it first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012738&highlight=cwm
to install it you must first root your device http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
rooting may not work for your current up to date rom
so you may have to flash an older rom first (I found one in bin4rys signature) http://uploaded.net/f/bd4cif
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So I made it as far as rooting the phone, installing a version of CWM for locked bootladers. But after tying to install two different ROMS for locked bootloaders they both put me into a SONY boot loop that seemed like it would never end.
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So I made it as far as rooting the phone, installing a version of CWM for locked bootladers. But after tying to install two different ROMS for locked bootloaders they both put me into a SONY boot loop that seemed like it would never end.
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ok did you go through the CWM menu and wipe the system, data, dalvik cache and so on... before you flashed the rom?
It often takes allot longer to boot up for the first time but no more than... id say 5 minuets if that
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ok did you go through the CWM menu and wipe the system, data, dalvik cache and so on... before you flashed the rom?
It often takes allot longer to boot up for the first time but no more than... id say 5 minuets if that
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I did. I have some android ROM is experience with previous phones. This is just the first one with a locked boot loader.
Wiped everything etc. Just does the Sony logo. Then goes blank, vibrates once then repeated forever.
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Basttrax said:
I did. I have some android ROM is experience with previous phones. This is just the first one with a locked boot loader.
Wiped everything etc. Just does the Sony logo. Then goes blank, vibrates once then repeated forever.
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Im sorry in not sure i can help you then
but root and cwm is a start lol
you have a different device to me.. did the roms you tried specifically say lt30a?
Throbin Wood said:
Im sorry in not sure i can help you then
but root and cwm is a start lol
you have a different device to me.. did the roms you tried specifically say lt30a?
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Yeah its a LT30a. Just mybluck buying a phone with a locked boot loader.
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Basttrax said:
Yeah its a LT30a. Just mybluck buying a phone with a locked boot loader.
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you and me both pal
Which roms were you trying to flash
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gregbradley said:
Which roms were you trying to flash
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The first one I tried was made for my phone's model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40370473
The next one I did was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240485
The both put me in a Boot spiral.
Did something happen?? I just switched over from my atrix hd it's been rooted and unlocked bootloader for over a year. Well my wife thought if I did the same to get atrix she could get more money out of it. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader on hers was one of the most time consuming unlock I've done. I had to use ubuntu and etc etc...wow did she get an update that made it so complicated from when i did mine??
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If she was on 4.1.x a few months ago, then yeah...
AFAIK The Ubuntu Root method wasn't so bad though. After one or two tries it goes through easy.
The bootloader unlock was rather easy as well.
At least you managed to root & unlock it so it all worked out right? ?
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Shinryu-chan said:
If she was on 4.1.x a few months ago, then yeah...
AFAIK The Ubuntu Root method wasn't so bad though. After one or two tries it goes through easy.
The bootloader unlock was rather easy as well.
At least you managed to root & unlock it so it all worked out right? ?
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Wasn't there a one-click root method added sometime after?
Byakko Custom said:
Wasn't there a one-click root method added sometime after?
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Quit quoting me already!
Don't you have anything better to do?
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@needleyepoke Myth Tools, which uses motopocalypse to unlock the bootloader and motochopper to root. Takes about a minute each. Or you can download each tool seperately
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Is there a newer method for unlocking your bootloader? for system version 98.4.20? Because motoapacolypse will not unlock my bootloader and several pages claim it still works. I need a method compaitble with windows 7 and complete instructions please.
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Is there a newer method for unlocking your bootloader? for system version 98.4.20? Because motoapacolypse will not unlock my bootloader and several pages claim it still works. I need a method compaitble with windows 7 and complete instructions please.
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Mythtools/motoapacolypse didn't work? Did you install the drivers and put the mythtool files in the right directories
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Mythtools: never seen any mention of this
motoapacolypse: this didnt work
I just wanna install cyanogenmod i rooted and kept the stock rom cus i wanted to keep using smartactions but after having tons of problems i switched to juice defender ultimate and i see no reason to stay on stock firmware with its bad battery life and excessively high ram usage