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I have Samsung Galaxy ace overall this phone is really good ..but it lacks only in Battery backup .For watching movies ,listening to Music the default 1350 mAh battery works fine but as soon as i start using internet with 3g connection battery lasts only for 4-5 hrs ..so i wanted to know does 1500 mAh /1750 mAh battery works properly in Ace without any problems and how much battery backup i will get with it??
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try this one it's really great http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430M...item2eb89962de
slaid480 said:
try this one it's really great http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430M...item2eb89962de
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Are you using it?
High Battery not really good. You should buy more original battery and use a dock charge.
I use the Orginall Samsung 1500 mAh battery from the I5800
works perfect and is like the same from Ace
AlphaTime said:
I use the Orginall Samsung 1500 mAh battery from the I5800
works perfect and is like the same from Ace
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K bt wat abt the backup ... for how many hrs ur battery lasts if u watch- 2 youtube videos ,surf net for 1 hr in a day,and download 2apps from market with 3g connection???
And tell me whether Li-on
1500 mAh battery functions properly in
samsung galaxy ace S5830..
I mean are there any problems reported
like cell not functioning properly,or cell
phone getting overheated...if any plzzz let me know!!
Alphatime like they are not the same. You really can't fit i5800 battery into galaxy ace. Why would you claim such a thing?
Now for some useful information. The phone can be optimized to last long in standby mode, simply by turning off the data connection when not using it, and switching to 2G. You can let jucedefender do that for you, or APN access point to manualy turn connection on and off.
But what good is a smart phone in a standby mode? The moment you start using it for something like say playing games, you got 2 hours gaming on a full charge. Now that’s pathetic.
Here are some things you can do to keep CPU less busy.
Use bsplayer lite to watch movies. It uses hardware acceleration to decode videos. It will keep CPU consuming less than 150mW. Unlike other players that use software decoding and constantly hit cpu usage as high as 400mW. So you can get 5+ hours (depending on brightness settings) watching movies using bsplayer.
Generally browsers will remain under 150mW if you let them sit still, but the moment you start scrolling (CPU) or opening links (radio) the power consumption will peak. Now Opera mini seems to take least CPU power. Obviously turning on wifi and 3G will drain much faster. The best battery time can be achieved using the 2G network data connection together with opera mini. Opera mobile seems to have hardware acceleration but I yet have to test the power consumption.
Test the applications you frequently use. You can use the power tutor program to monitor power consumption and test your application.
I've found that some programs, even the simple book readers will just lock the CPU at 800MHz even if you let them stand still, doing nothing with constant 400mW drain. Uninstall such applications or use them for short periods.
Well games have a high CPU demand and subsequently power consumption, and there is nothing to do about that.
Basically you can get:
2-3 days in standby or,
2 hours of playing games, and using unoptimized applications or,
5+ hours using applications with good coding and or hardware acceleration.
Underclocking the CPU using setCPU has no effect, becouse optimized applications allready scale the cpu to 250mhz or 128mhz. And demanding applications will stutter when underclocked and won't consume much less power.
I've just ordered this 2430mah
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecell-2430M...SBLI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322668379&sr=8-3
zukae said:
Alphatime like they are not the same. You really can't fit i5800 battery into galaxy ace. Why would you claim such a thing?
Now for some useful information. The phone can be optimized to last long in standby mode, simply by turning off the data connection when not using it, and switching to 2G. You can let jucedefender do that for you, or APN access point to manualy turn connection on and off.
But what good is a smart phone in a standby mode? The moment you start using it for something like say playing games, you got 2 hours gaming on a full charge. Now that’s pathetic.
Here are some things you can do to keep CPU less busy.
Use bsplayer lite to watch movies. It uses hardware acceleration to decode videos. It will keep CPU consuming less than 150mW. Unlike other players that use software decoding and constantly hit cpu usage as high as 400mW. So you can get 5+ hours (depending on brightness settings) watching movies using bsplayer.
Generally browsers will remain under 150mW if you let them sit still, but the moment you start scrolling (CPU) or opening links (radio) the power consumption will peak. Now Opera mini seems to take least CPU power. Obviously turning on wifi and 3G will drain much faster. The best battery time can be achieved using the 2G network data connection together with opera mini. Opera mobile seems to have hardware acceleration but I yet have to test the power consumption.
Test the applications you frequently use. You can use the power tutor program to monitor power consumption and test your application.
I've found that some programs, even the simple book readers will just lock the CPU at 800MHz even if you let them stand still, doing nothing with constant 400mW drain. Uninstall such applications or use them for short periods.
Well games have a high CPU demand and subsequently power consumption, and there is nothing to do about that.
Basically you can get:
2-3 days in standby or,
2 hours of playing games, and using unoptimized applications or,
5+ hours using applications with good coding and or hardware acceleration.
Underclocking the CPU using setCPU has no effect, becouse optimized applications allready scale the cpu to 250mhz or 128mhz. And demanding applications will stutter when underclocked and won't consume much less power.
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hey thnks for info...jst tell me whether Li-on 1500 mAh battery functions properly in samsung galaxy ace S5830..
I mean are there any problems reported like cell not functioning properly,or cell phone getting heated...if any plzzz let me know!!
All the measurements that ive made were done using official 1350 mah battery.
So using oem 1350 battery on a single charge you can get 5 hours of video using bsplayer or 4h using opera mini with wifi. I just dont play games on my samsung or use unoptimized applications and I get good battery life.
Currently there are no >1350mah batteries that can fit inside galaxy ace (S830). All these unofficial batteries that claim more capacity are a hoax (chinese 2400 really?).
If there will ever be a larger capacity battery, they will be sold together with a special back cover so that a much thicker battery can fit inside the samsung galaxy ace.
Cheers
zukae said:
All the measurements that ive made were done using official 1350 mah battery.
So using oem 1350 battery on a single charge you can get 5 hours of video using bsplayer or 4h using opera mini with wifi. I just dont play games on my samsung or use unoptimized applications and I get good battery life.
Currently there are no >1350mah batteries that can fit inside galaxy ace (S830). All these unofficial batteries that claim more capacity are a hoax (chinese 2400 really?).
If there will ever be a larger capacity battery, they will be sold together with a special back cover so that a much thicker battery can fit inside the samsung galaxy ace.
Cheers
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Ok, then my 2430mAh hoax battery lasts longer than my stock battery. And it's not chinese, it's japanese. It's not a small difference I'm really happy with my hoax! With stock it lasts 30-35 hours normal usage, with new battery there was 59 hours.
Kmarci provide a link for this japanese battery.
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Kmarci provide a link for this japanese battery.
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viewitem.eim.ebay.hu/GOLD-2430MAH-BATTERY-FOR-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-ACE-S5830/200665555678/item
That's it. It says: made in Japan. You won't have to believe it, but it's really good. I use it, and it's better, then the stock.
kmarci said:
Ok, then my 2430mAh hoax battery lasts longer than my stock battery. And it's not chinese, it's japanese. It's not a small difference I'm really happy with my hoax! With stock it lasts 30-35 hours normal usage, with new battery there was 59 hours.
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Guys my ? Was does 1500 mAh li-on battery functions properly in, samsung galaxy ace S5830 ...can anybody plz give me a appropriate answer!!
Just received my 2430 mah battery, MUCH longer lasting battery life very happy for only £13.
alex ainsley said:
Just received my 2430 mah battery, MUCH longer lasting battery life very happy for only £13.
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Yes, that's it, same as my experience.
This particular gold 2430 battery, has a faulty or missing temperature sensor. This means it can charge to a somewhat higher capacity, but never actually 2430mah.
The capacity of 2430mah would mean an energy density of 900W/L. Now currently the record breaking panasonic lithium ion battery has a denisty of 650W/L
The good thing about a temperature sensor is that its actually a failsafe mechanism keeping the battery from not exploding.
So try to keep your phone on a cold place while charging and away from flamable stuff.
And even if its made in Japan I somehow suspect that the Chinese have to do something with the faulty temperature senzor.
Cheers.
Well My ace doesn't get very hot anyway so I'm not worried
I should get it lol...
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Disclaimer: I know there is already another thread on Mugen HD2 Extended Battery 2,600mAh, but I would like to state that this is an official review since Mugen has provided me with a review unit to debunk the many bad comments given concerning their battery quality. This you can read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294124.
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I have contacted www.mugen-power-batteries.com directly after hearing many comments concerning their false claims. I was surprised that they actually responded by providing me a review unit of the 2,600mAh. It is now on the way.
My review unit will be coming in about 2 weeks time. I will try to conduct an extensive review to determine the actual worth of the battery and whether they work as advertised. I will be conducting a few tests specifically on the battery, as objectively as possible. This would cover video playing, 3G usage, full valuation of the battery charge (using battery widget pro) to name a few.
If you would like a particular test to be conducted on the battery, please state and give a few ideas below. I will be comparing them against the original 1,230mAh from HTC.
I think as faithful users of our HTC HD2, I would really want to get the best extended battery. If this provides even 90% of the advertised capacity, it is already worth the money. Anything less would be pointless.
Thank you.
Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
Cant Wait for the review
Im Planning on getting one myself a 2,600mAh
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
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This was response to Dougs battery testing.
Not in any way slating Mugen but the mAh ratings marked on their cells are higher than what would be achieved in any lab test.
1500mah is the one I would love to see tested side by side with genuine cell in device & technician mAh testing.
Mugen cells are ok quality but for the asking price we need total transparency on actual cell capacity ...
I have no idea how good that battery is, but I bought this one about 6 months ago and it's working very well, doesn't gain much heat and it doesn't discharge itself much. Average battery consumption in standby is 6mA. All I can do is recommend you guys this one. And cover is really strong. And it's "bit" cheaper than Mugens
[email protected]/MB434B/review_MB434B.html
looking forward to seeing your test results...i just got me a 2400mAh battery and it lasts me about 15hours under heavy use...
Hi guys,
Sorry for the silence... I just received the battery today! Give me some time to get it charged and conditioned for testing
Let me know what else you would like me to test it with.
Display use is interesting for me, such like browsing etc.
Open a browser with some ads or something and look how long the Battery live..
My Galaxy SII gets there 4,5h.
Start the Match
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
Can You please also start the heavy display usage test?
And put some pics please
Greetings
erlern said:
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
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I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
how long will the battery last for heavy use like playing 3d games?this is important as i use my phone for gaming most
damnshah said:
I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
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1) I conditioning it by charging it overnight for 6-8 hours and then depleting it until it powers off (Actually, this is based on the instructions they gave in the parcel). I need to do it 5 times. Once done, I will be able to charge and stop charging when the indicator hits 100%. I basically use Battery Widget Pro (they have a feature called 'calibration'). Apparently, the battery itself states that it is 2,300mAh, but I think this is not accurate (hence the testing). You will know that the battery is fully charge when the indicator goes down to 0 (zero) mA (shows that the battery is not receiving any more charge).
2) Most cheap batteries have wrong indicators (e.g. temperature detection is not working, no indication of battery capacity). And yes, they suffer the need to 'pull the battery out first' before an additional amount is given. I bought one a while back, apparently one that has 3,000mAh. My observation is that the indicators are really gone. In fact, it will slowly go down to 50%, after which if you pull, it will give you 70%, once it goes down to 15%, it will last for a long while (30 minutes of browsing over 3G) before going down to 14%. Using that battery, I have been able to last 31 hours of moderate use (1 hour of music, 1 hour of gaming - not 3D, a few hours of browsing and a lot of photo taking). It costs only USD12 (thereabouts), which to me is the best deal yet. Down side of that battery is the very poor back battery cover. Using Battery Widget Pro (you have to charge fully and discharge until it shuts down and charge up again continuously), I got an estimated charge capacity of 1900mAh. Not bad don't you think?
The Mugen 2,600mAh easily matches my fake 3,000mAh one. The question is by how much. Sorry for the delay but my HD2 is my daily phone. So, I cant conduct full test like Engadget and other websites. But I'll do my best
relldroid said:
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
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Try Andida batteries. I had the 1600mAh one and it was slightly better than the original (giving me about 1300mAh). I had that a while back.
After much charging and recharging, I can confirm that the battery has about 2,200+mAh. See the attached images to see the estimated calculation using Battery Widget Pro.
Charging takes about 2 hours plus using the wall charger. The last 2% takes the longest.
As per request I ran 2 emulation apps (sorry, no 3d games), fpse & n64oid. The former ran Strider 2 while the latter ran Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Do note that I have overclocked my phone to 1.6ghz. All in all, it ran for 4.5 hours with 15% battery left. I'm pretty sure it could have clocked 5hours easily. I think that it is a good performance for 2.2kmAh battery don't you think? See the images below for a read of what other apps I was running. I managed to deplete the whole charge after nearly 10 hours of extremely heavy usage!
What do you guys think? Okay?
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[Not the Mugen 2,600mAh Battery]
As an aside, I took and strip out the cheap battery which I bought for USD10, which claimed a 3000mAh, which only was about 2000mAh (+/- 200mAh) and took some photos of it. I can understand these extended batteries better. I am not an electronics person, but this would explain why it takes a restart to 'recognise' the 'remaining' battery on our devices.
Notice that they are basically two lower capacity batteries which are slapped together with the thin connectors and wrapped together with scotch tape.
I am not sure whether Mugen's the same, since it does not suffer from the 'restart-phone-to-get-additional-battery-reflected' scenario. However, I wonder whether there are any manufacturers who would just manufacture a genuine 2000mAh without merely slapping two products together (like in this picture). In light of this, it is much better to carry an external battery charger (anything more than 6,000mAh around!).
Anyone with electronic expertise want to comment on the pictures, please do.
Opps, forgot to add the photos of the battery and the battery cover which I mentioned. I find that after the first fall (yes, I tend to have accidents with my HD2 ... ) there is a slight creeking sound with the battery cover (nothing is chipped though). It is a rubberised battery cover, unlike the original metal cover. Still, the feel of the cover is great to the touch.
I am no longer using this device, but my dad is! It still works and have survived loads of damage... mostly dropping the device with the battery cover!
Okay I have a nexus S and the single most annoying thing about it is the time it takes to charge. It takes 2.5 hours to charge a 1500mah battery whereas this xperia arc S with the same battery capacity charges completely in less than an hour using the exact same charger on both phones. So obviously the nexus S has some cost cutting that it charges so slowly and yet it was never mentioned in any of the reviews.
Now at first I was ok with it but I got to use the arc S for a few days. Its like it changes everything when the phone charges in one third the time, you could care less if you get 30 min less screen on time or whatever. I just go charge the phone while going for a shower and bam its fully charged when I come back.
So upon investigation it seems like an issue with samsung phones. The galaxy S, galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus all take ridiculous amount of time to charge. So why is this never reported? Higher screen on time is no good if the charging time is so bad. My nexus S can go days without a full charge and really the only way to do it is over night.
Anyways this is LG nexus now so I was hopeful this problem wont be there. I checked out a friends optimus 2X and I was happy to see that just like the xperia it also charges in under an hour. However anandtech review says it takes 3 hours to charge and so does another user in the Q&A forum. So why on earth is not anyone complaining about it? Everyone is after the screen on time but you realize this is an even bigger issue?
And btw the iphone charges very quickly as well. And yes I realise that the nexus 4 has a 2100mah battery but it really doesnt justify the time it takes. This is almost a deal breaker for me. *sobs*
When I got my S2, I was disappointed with the charging time. But many custom kernals support fast charging by increasing the voltage level going to the charge circuit. With a tweak, my phone charged up in about 90 minutes.
But over time, you learn that the higher voltage has a detrimental effect on the total charge the battery will accept. In other words, when charging at a slower pace (lower voltage) the battery will actually absorb a higher density charge - making your battery last longer. After discovering this, I turned down the charge voltage on my S2 in favor of getting better battery life.
So I would avoid comparing the charge times with other phones. They may charge faster, but that's done by increasing the charge voltage, thus reducing battery capacity.
I have no reason to believe the increased voltage alters the total life of the battery, it just seems to affect the amount of energy the battery will absorb on a single charge.
tl;dr; The faster the battery charges, the shorter the battery life. I learned that from Upstairs Hollywood Battery School.
Seriously? Morning about charging time? GTFO!
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This isn't really a problem, it's just the way it is with all phones that use a large battery (ie. virtually all high end smartphones). The chargers are all 1A, so with a huge battery it will take ages to charge.
Efficiency is the bigger issue. The iPhone 4S/5 are pretty much the only phones to date that I've been able to charge at a decent pace off my computer's USB ports. I definitely need to buy more chargers and cables for my Nexus 4 but that's no big deal.
Dr Zoidberg said:
When I got my S2, I was disappointed with the charging time. But many custom kernals support fast charging by increasing the voltage level going to the charge circuit. With a tweak, my phone charged up in about 90 minutes.
But over time, you learn that the higher voltage has a detrimental effect on the total charge the battery will accept. In other words, when charging at a slower pace (lower voltage) the battery will actually absorb a higher density charge - making your battery last longer. After discovering this, I turned down the charge voltage on my S2 in favor of getting better battery life.
So I would avoid comparing the charge times with other phones. They may charge faster, but that's done by increasing the charge voltage, thus reducing battery capacity.
I have no reason to believe the increased voltage afters the total life of the battery, it just seems to affect the amount of energy the battery will absorb on a single charge.
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Its not a big deal as I said I have used an xperia arc S and I was satisfied with battery life, I cant imagine the xperia would have had much better battery life out of its 1500mah unit even if it was slow charging.
I mean unless we can observe what happens to the battery life of a fast charging phone by slowing its speed, we cant really conclude this since after all it was a "mod" applied on the S2.
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Seriously? Morning about charging time? GTFO!
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Nobody asked you to post in the thread, charging time is a big deal its silly to think otherwise.
lambomanx1 said:
This isn't really a problem, it's just the way it is with all phones that use a large battery (ie. virtually all high end smartphones). The chargers are all 1A, so with a huge battery it will take ages to charge.
Efficiency is the bigger issue. The iPhone 4S/5 are pretty much the only phones to date that I've been able to charge at a decent pace off my computer's USB ports. I definitely need to buy more chargers and cables for my Nexus 4 but that's no big deal.
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This isnt true the HTC one X and sony xperia S charge very quickly and they have relatively big batteries.
Seriously, there's a big difference between a 1500mah battery and a 2100mah. Being that this is a lithium polymer battery it should charge a little faster. Also, like the above poster stated, slower charge is a higher density charge and better for battery longevity. I think if Samsung wanted faster charging they would have it. There is no physical barrier.
You guys know the faster your battery charges, the shorter the lifespan of the battery?
Head over to battery university
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Jayrod1980 said:
Seriously, there's a big difference between a 1500mah battery and a 2100mah. Being that this is a lithium polymer battery it should charge a little faster. Also, like the above poster stated, slower charge is a higher density charge and better for battery longevity. I think if Samsung wanted faster charging they would have it. There is no physical barrier.
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Its like 40% difference?
And isnt the nexus 4 hmm not having the best battery life despite such slow charging so I dont really feel it makes a big difference.
And btw sometimes it is a hardware limitation, nobody has been able to charge a nexus S faster not with kernels or other chargers.
tylerwatt12 said:
You guys know the faster your battery charges, the shorter the lifespan of the battery?
Head over to battery university
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Yes, I know that. See post #2 in this thread.
I will edit my post to add a tl;dr
tylerwatt12 said:
You guys know the faster your battery charges, the shorter the lifespan of the battery?
Head over to battery university
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It doesnt seem like a big deal, the iphone has had fast charging since the first one and its battery lasts just fine. Ofcourse one day you will have to change it but why suffer for a year just because of it?
Another one of these threads... Oh brother.
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I always wondered why the iPhone charged so much faster than any android phone I owned
I'm saying there's no technological barrier to the Nexus S charging faster. Samsung just made it that way. Could also be because it uses a Lithium Ion battery and not a lithium polymer battery. Depending the technology, li-po batteries can charge much faster safely because they don't have the same thermal limits as lithium ion and have much less chance of exploding or catching fire. Apple some years back boasted that they had new battery tech that would allow their batteries to charge faster. If you do some internet reading on lithium polymer batteries, there are some that have characteristics to do this. As far as I know, the iphone was made after they acquired this technology and have been using it in their mac books for years, as well as the iphone.
To me it's not a huge deal, but it is less convenient than if it were able to charge faster.
Jayrod1980 said:
I'm saying there's no technological barrier to the Nexus S charging faster. Samsung just made it that way. Could also be because it uses a Lithium Ion battery and not a lithium polymer battery. Depending the technology, li-po batteries can charge much faster safely because they don't have the same thermal limits as lithium ion and have much less chance of exploding or catching fire. Apple some years back boasted that they had new battery tech that would allow their batteries to charge faster. If you do some internet reading on lithium polymer batteries, there are some that have characteristics to do this. As far as I know, the iphone was made after they acquired this technology and have been using it in their mac books for years, as well as the iphone.
To me it's not a huge deal, but it is less convenient than if it were able to charge faster.
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Well I am fine with the nexus S its something I have come to live with however I dont want this thing to be the case in my next phone.
Microsoft boasted how quickly the surface RT charges due to some new technology. Really it does matter, I suppose good for those who dont really care about it.
ctowne said:
I always wondered why the iPhone charged so much faster than any android phone I owned
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I have tested 2 android phones that charge just as fast.
Xperia arc S and LG optimus 2X.
Takes me like 2hrs to fully charge my Nexus 4.
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Gambler_3 said:
I have tested 2 android phones that charge just as fast.
Xperia arc S and LG optimus 2X.
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That's weird because I had a G2x and that charged slower than the iPhone I had at the same time
There is clearly a link between the temperature of the battery and the charging current in the thermal management of the device :
bat_temp(C) cpu(MHz) gpu(MHz) LCD index of predefined charging current
36 1512 400 248(400nit) 0 (900mA)
37 1296 325 228(360nit) 0 (900mA)
38 1296 325 208(325nit) 0 (900mA)
39 1188 200 195(300nit) 1 (700mA)
41 1188 200 195(300nit) 1 (700mA)
42 1188 200 195(300nit) 2 (600mA)
45 1188 200 195(300nit) 3 (400mA)
Hello,
I know people have talked again and again about this problem. But I have to ask again because until now I did not found any solution. I have a N7000 and a 7000mah battery (I had in the past a 5000mah battery). My mobile phone looks like a old TV but guess what, the battery holds maximum one day! I have had the problem with all my mobiles in the past (HTC HD2, HTC sensation). I have tried to find the problem by using betterbatterystate with no success. I always turn off bluetooth, GPS and so on. I have installed juice defender ultimate for a long time on my mobile, it makes everything worst. I have really tried too many things, but they all did not help. Is there something that I am missing??? Or is it android?? Is iphone better than that? I am a heavy user but maximum one day with 7000mah?? With the original battery I have to laugh when I look at my battery consumption.
Please give me some new tips. Something that really works. What is wrong with me????
It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)
Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.
comscier said:
It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)
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I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000
se1988 said:
Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.
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I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?
ht96 said:
I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?
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never trust an app to tell you how your battery are doing.
I would recommend you to buy an original Samsung battery. They have a life span of several years, but should be changed after one year as the capacity deteriorates.
ht96 said:
I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000
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buy a new battery, your battery maybe dying
make sure you get the real thing though.
Do some digging before making any purchase.
As per thread title, looking for an extended life battery - but dont want to end up with one that comes nowhere near what its rated for....like the 5400 mh battery I bought off ebay last year. Its so poor, it doesnt even last half the length of the standard oem battery!
Does anyone have an extended life battery for the n7000 that actually lives up to the declared spec??
Hm not that i know off.
You might want to turn your screen brightness down, ive found that matter quite a bit.
As for batteries with more capacity... Well youve said it, tho its a bit weird if the batteries capacity really measures 5000mah(?) It should ofcourse last.
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Anthropostar said:
You might want to turn your screen brightness down, ive found that matter quite a bit.
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I've tried that - but in certain circumstances, its simply not practical - if out and about somewhere that its sunny. I've gone back to setting it to automatic in this respect - so it adjusts to conditions.
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As for batteries with more capacity... Well youve said it, tho its a bit weird if the batteries capacity really measures 5000mah(?) It should ofcourse last.
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I guess they should. However, around the time I bought that battery, there was discussion on here re. the expensive mugen batteries - and that they were not coming anywhere close to the rated capacity. There were mixed reports re. other chinese batteries - some good, some bad. I took a punt on that battery - it was cheap - but it turned out to be rubbish.
Perhaps the way to go is one of these portable power packs rather than a replacement battery? However, again I'd imagine that some are better than others. Is someone of you already using one of these? Anyone care to make a recommendation?
Would this be worthwhile?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-30000...al-Portable-Battery-USB-Charger-/121209336215
Despite the big price tag, my N7000 has served me very well - its become an essential item. Although I have to carefully 'manage' it on a day to day basis (always having it charged to the max before I leave home - and having a back up battery with me), the greatest difficulty is when I leave home for an extended period. Ironically, this is also when I rely so much on the device also. With heavy usage, battery power just trickles away rapidly.
This its a question which I'm also interested in.
I found as I thought a good and not cheep battery on eBay but before purchasing I checked it in goggle and found android forum where people complain about this bataries. They looked under the sticker and the real battery power was something like 1500 mh instead of 5200.
So I deside not to risk with chip Chinese bataries.
If I had local store which sells bataries I would by. Thus I could change battery off it has fake marking.
Using standard browser with reversed colors can save battery life on amoled screen.
I used to this view and now some websites look even better.
I also tried some cpu tweaking tools.
Funny, today because of marketing companies put more unnecessary cores in the phones and than people install software to turn them off.
My experience with new batteries is not so great. Guess all companies make inflated claims. On the other hand I see significantly better battery performance on OMNIRom 4.4 atleast in standby mode. YMMV