hi,
I am on the German ICS (LPY).
As my phone is TPY (hong Kong) and now the ICS for Hong Kong is out and named LPF , I'd like to reflash my phone to LPF, as LPF is considered to be more mature than LPY.
1) should I prefer LPF or stay on LPY?
2) it is a big 900MB file (but only one) should I flash it with Odin on PDA? is a bootloader in it? (downloaded with checkfus from Samsung)
3) does it kill all my settings and home screens? Or is it like an update keeping all my data?
thanks for a quick answer
i'd love, if s.o. had an idea.
RbbCHan said:
hi,
I am on the German ICS (LPY).
As my phone is TPY (hong Kong) and now the ICS for Hong Kong is out and named LPF , I'd like to reflash my phone to LPF, as LPF is considered to be more mature than LPY.
1) should I prefer LPF or stay on LPY?
2) it is a big 900MB file (but only one) should I flash it with Odin on PDA? is a bootloader in it? (downloaded with checkfus from Samsung)
3) does it kill all my settings and home screens? Or is it like an update keeping all my data?
thanks for a quick answer
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I chose LPF over LPY. Basically I would just give you one reason.
I Don't want to live with the risk of bricking every now and then I do something new with my note.
And besides, what you got to lose? TouchWiz features. Oh well, it is far better than working without it in a safe kernel than working on a risky kernel.
Both LPF and LPY are dangerous. I recommend you to go for a CM9 based ROM and Kernel, like the ParanoidAndroid, but do not flash it from recovery over LPY. If you want to flash another ROM and Kernel, downgrade to GB first.
chasmodo said:
You are able to revert to GB from both those kernels/Roms. However,
they are not safe. There's been reports of superbricks on both those
versions.
The only safe things for now are
1. Gingerbread Roms
2. CM9-based ICS Roms (official Xplod's CM9, Asylum, Paranoid and MIUI).
However, CM9 Roms don't have TW framework and some of the TW apps
are not included.
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I guess this should be able to clear up things to you now.
Well, I thought LPF is safer as compared to LPY as bricks have been alarmed in the LPY category more.
But Seems like LP 1,5,6,Y,F => Each one carries their own level of emmc brick bug.
All bricks have first had their device rooted (then custom rom, and cwm whatever). In this discussions between whether rooting is the reason for bricking or not.. safer is to stick to stock ROM non rooted. Going from stock GB to stock ICS is 'safer' compared to other techniques around.
thanks guys,
just flashed lpf via odin over my lpy.
Works like a charm no problem and a much better bat life than before.
I am aware that "wipe" is a no go.
so, I am going to simply root my phone without using any other CWM modes or options.
THX CU
Good! You have one another lucky note which survived the bug ! But ya, touchwiz is good provided you use the features. Else, anytime you are welcome to the AOSP world
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Hi.. If I install LPF ICS 4.0.3 and root it as suggested here, will I still get KIES updates when they are available?
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-root-n7000zslpf-ics-403.html
Thanks..
J_Kirk said:
Hi.. If I install LPF ICS 4.0.3 and root it as suggested here, will I still get KIES updates when they are available?
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-root-n7000zslpf-ics-403.html
Thanks..
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As long as the firmware that you want to flash is Stock, you will be able to update, but you will lose Root.
The Rom in your link is stock but from Taiwan, so the CSC will have limited update options in the future. More details are given in the original thread of this Rom here.
Hope that helped!
Yes thanks.. well as its newer than the LPY German, I just thought maybe it'd be better to install this one instead. What do you suggest?
J_Kirk said:
Yes thanks.. well as its newer than the LPY German, I just thought maybe it'd be better to install this one instead. What do you suggest?
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I suggest not to flash a LPY Rom, there is high risk of bricking your device. If you are not so familiar with this i advice you to look around for details about the procedures.
IMO, flash via PC-Odin a GB Rom, or a Custom GB rom (Chrack's is the Best) and then if you want a custom ICS pick one of the new, such as MidTeam 1.3, CM9, RocketRom etc.
Hope i could help!
I see.. u think even the new Taiwan one LPF would be risky? Cause I read there are many things which are not working in CM9. About MidTeam and Rocket I don't know.. will have to look at them.
J_Kirk said:
I see.. u think even the new Taiwan one LPF would be risky? Cause I read there are many things which are not working in CM9. About MidTeam and Rocket I don't know.. will have to look at them.
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LPF is better and safer than LPY.
Since you want the LPF just flash it, many people say that it works fine.
To be clear here, i haven't tried it. I prefer CM9 but it's just a matter of taste after all!
Public Service Announcement:
DO NOT FLASH OR WIPE USING ANY ICS REPACK OR STOCK KERNEL
Not even wiping in stock recovery is safe with affected kernels. Almost all ICS kernels for the GT-N7000 are affected.
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Hi.. If I install LPF ICS 4.0.3 and root it as suggested here, will I still get KIES updates when they are available?
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Please stay on GB for now... There is a bug on EMMC that effects all leaked ICS roms so far. Read the Public Service Announcment:
Even official LPF rom is effected by this bug.
The ZSLPF official release - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1661590 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1#post26275391 are the first two reports.
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I thought I read that installing the LPY Kernel you might risk not being able to reinstall another ROM if you want to change back.
Is the LPF safer, or is there still an issue with it, also? Did I misread that warning about the LPY kernel?
Thanks!
MC
MaverickCoast said:
I thought I read that installing the LPY Kernel you might risk not being able to reinstall another ROM if you want to change back.
Is the LPF safer, or is there still an issue with it, also? Did I misread that warning about the LPY kernel?
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You are able to revert to GB from both those kernels/Roms. However,
they are not safe. There's been reports of superbricks on both those
versions.
The only safe things for now are
1. Gingerbread Roms
2. CM9-based ICS Roms (official Xplod's CM9, Asylum, Paranoid and MIUI).
However, CM9 Roms don't have TW framework and some of the TW apps
are not included.
A question from a Samsung beginner. What does LPY and LPF mean ?
Thank you
DirkStorck said:
A question from a Samsung beginner. What does LPY and LPF mean ?
Thank you
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Please read the firmware naming conventions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19553821
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Thank you
Hi There ,
I would like to welcome myself to the xda-developers , i have been exploring this forum for a while, honestly i am so impressed, this is the best forum ever
I think i wil learn looots of things from you guys ...i hope i can help out one day as a pay back ...love you..
My question :
1. i have flashed a stock ICS ROM and rooted it successfully ...
now i need to flash another stock ICS ROM..saudi arabia one to get arabic language ...how can i do that short and safe ?!!
Thanks in advance for your help , and please do make it short as i am not that technical :-(
First things first,
there's currently no 'short and safe' way to get stock ICS due to the Hardbrick bug.Read it carefully-when a dev/mod writes warning in big red letters, you pay attention to it.Although you may get a replacement from Samsung as all you did was flash a stock rom and as long as your binary counter is zero i.e. no 'yellow triangle' is displayed when you start up your phone.
For getting the Saudi Arabia ROM-use this
thanks
well..i have installed stock ics rom from a stock GB rom ...now i am confused should i downgrade to GB first or just use pc odin right away to flash this one as well?...
and thanks for the link ...but searching confuses me even more ...so many ways to flash.i need some that have succesfully done the same thing to guide me..
Newer the better !!
ICS is safe with a safe kernel(i.e. a kernel which is devoid of any wipe data bug Eg. All CM9 kernels, speedmod kernel, franco's kernel). If you wanna stay stock in ICS flash any stock firmware through ODIN and replace the stock kernel with a safe one. If you wanna custom ROM, there are many to choose from. Here also the same procedure applies. Any ROM with a safe kernel. so cheerios and Welcome to the ICS bandwagon. You can flash it over the same with a safe kernel also(I have done safe many a time) but it doesn't get hurt to flash into GB and to be back on ICS. A 33k Note is of more value than a time of ten minutes. LOL.
you can also read this thread to get more information on staying safe in ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691843&highlight=stay+safe
Thank you
Akilesh said:
ICS is safe with a safe kernel(i.e. a kernel which is devoid of any wipe data bug Eg. All CM9 kernels, speedmod kernel, franco's kernel). If you wanna stay stock in ICS flash any stock firmware through ODIN and replace the stock kernel with a safe one. If you wanna custom ROM, there are many to choose from. Here also the same procedure applies. Any ROM with a safe kernel. so cheerios and Welcome to the ICS bandwagon. You can flash it over the same with a safe kernel also(I have done safe many a time) but it doesn't get hurt to flash into GB and to be back on ICS. A 33k Note is of more value than a time of ten minutes. LOL.
you can also read this thread to get more information on staying safe in ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691843&highlight=stay+safe
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Thanks for the helpful and cheerful reply , well i guess i will follow your advice and read the post first and then try out some of them ROMs
I managed to,flahs one sucesfully
well..i managed to flash another custom rom ...the saudi one with arabic language ....
well sucesfully thanks god through pc odin
now instead of LPY kernel am on the atached kernel ..
well..even though i dont really know if i am now on a safer kernel or not but its awsome..
guys ..please if anyone can explain the diferences of the rom i just flahed from the LPY ics rom i had installed before..it would be nice...
Thanks...
sucessfully flashed it
hi...i managed to sucesufy flash the attached ROM from the previous ics based on LPY kernel..is it worth it??
i mean am i in a safer kernel now..??
can i start playing around with other roms unexpecting a hard brick ???
and finaly ..what the real diference between this one and the LPY one..
well..any how i am enjoying it..its faster ibthink ...and no lagging when scrooling web pages ..
Good day everyone. I just want to ask you guys, especially those who are using stock roms, which do you prefer, stock ics or stock gb? I'm coming from PA by Utacka and I pretty much used custom roms from the start so i never actually used stock.
Please provide a reason as to why. I just want to have a stable rom while waiting for the official jelly bean update.
Thank you everyone.
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there is no as such reasons to be on a particular ROM.. its each and everyones taste that keep them stuck to a particular rom,
as far as stock is concerned stock ICS rooted with a hydracore kernel works best for me
I would compare GB to windows XP. Sure it was good back in the day, but it's had it's run now and time to stay current. ICS has been released for a good while now and should have had all the bugs ironed out. Little things like the improved task switching (previews over icons), and swipe to dismiss notifications, while small differences make for a better experience over all.
A better kernal like hydracore to improve battery life and a stock ICS (or maybe back to rocketrom) would be what i would go back to if i was so inclined (i'm on utacka's PA at the moment too)
defecat0r said:
I would compare GB to windows XP. Sure it was good back in the day, but it's had it's run now and time to stay current. ICS has been released for a good while now and should have had all the bugs ironed out. Little things like the improved task switching (previews over icons), and swipe to dismiss notifications, while small differences make for a better experience over all.
A better kernal like hydracore to improve battery life and a stock ICS (or maybe back to rocketrom) would be what i would go back to if i was so inclined (i'm on utacka's PA at the moment too)
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Thank you for the answer. My only intention is to have a pretty reliable phone so I can use my phone when it really counts. I hate that when I have to do something really important, I will encounter freezes or out of memory error that prevents me to actually multitask.
I haven't tried rocketrom but I am willing to try that. My only fear is if it will lag after few days of use. My boss' phone which is sgs2 would go for days or months without a reboot and he is on stock gb. He doesn't know anything about smartphones in general so he thinks he is using a regular phone, and he is pretty happy about the phone's performance. I just want the same experience.
Thank you.
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ICS 4.0.4 without hesitation especially with interducing of safe kernel
Flash stock ICS 4.0.4 via PC Odin (the new one like xxlrt or ddlr9) then flash safe stock kernel like PhilZ kernel for your new rom from (also via odin or cwm): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
And thats it!! Full stock, very smooth (compared with older 4.0.4), and most important it is perfectly stable, and everything works.
I only aded a call recording mode beacause I realy need it.
Hope that help!
ICS 4.0.4 and HydraCore
djoni_gitara said:
Flash stock ICS 4.0.4 via PC Odin (the new one like xxlrt or ddlr9) then flash safe stock kernel like PhilZ kernel for your new rom from (also via odin or cwm): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
And thats it!! Full stock, very smooth (compared with older 4.0.4), and most important it is perfectly stable, and everything works.
I only aded a call recording mode beacause I realy need it.
Hope that help!
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Okay I'll look into that. Someone suggested about Rocketrom, do you think that Rocketrom could perhaps be more stable and faster than fully stock ( except kernel maybe) xxlrt or ddlr9, and do everything work on that? Files are too large for touchwiz roms so i want to know more about different types of rom before doing some flashing. I won't have so much time this coming months so I really want a reliable phone. Thanks a lot.
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May be cleanote... It's actually the stock with all bloatware removed
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noneym86 said:
Okay I'll look into that. Someone suggested about Rocketrom, do you think that Rocketrom could perhaps be more stable and faster than fully stock ( except kernel maybe) xxlrt or ddlr9, and do everything work on that? Files are too large for touchwiz roms so i want to know more about different types of rom before doing some flashing. I won't have so much time this coming months so I really want a reliable phone. Thanks a lot.
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I dont want complaining on certain rom, but if you ask i will say my opinion on rocketrom. It is a good and stable rom, i have used it with hydracore kernel and dont find any problems with in about 2-3 weeks of use. But it is based on xxlrq which i found a bit laggy for me (the same story is for completly stock xxlrq). I dont know which is a difernce in xxlrq compared to xxlrt (some says the diference is only in kernel but i dont know).
So i was tired of flashing and stuff and decided to go on completly stock, picked up a latest xxlrt and whoaa, great. The reason why i am on lrt because my note is from german, i think that same story is for indian lr6 and lr9.
Then the story begins:
-Flashed stock GB xxlc1 via pc odin
-full wipe
-flash stock ics 4.0.4. xxlrt via pc odin
-root (dr.ketans guide) - only because of callrecord mod
-first flashed hydracore 4.3std kernel (also great kernel) and then philZ realesed his stock, emmc bug free kernel, so i flashed it.
Now used only a PhilZ kernel because it is completly stock with removed emmc brick bug. And for stock xxlrt rom it is perfect combination for me (just choose right kernel for your rom)
-Added only call recording mode
-settings > application > unninstalling aplications which i dont use ; > ALL > disabling (readers, music, social hub, etc...)
-And thats it!
Perfectly stable, smooth with great battery life, without any problem, FC or else. Without reboot for about 3 days (reason flashed Philz kernel 23.09)
Finally happy with my note :victory:
Hope that helped
Hi Guys,
Hey i was testing many Jb roms such as ultimate JB and rocket rom.
Now since i noticed that JB had just a battery back up of one day I want to revert back to my good old ICS 4.0.4.
I have downloaded mobile Odin pro. I just wanted to know , if I flash ICS 4.0.4 for my country (taken from sammobile) will i be able to unroot and claim warranty / or be able to revert to stock samsung ICS and get my samsung software updates as usual ?
It would be really nice if someone could help me on this .
thanks in advance.
ray
ray.rjg5 said:
Hi Guys,
Hey i was testing many Jb roms such as ultimate JB and rocket rom.
Now since i noticed that JB had just a battery back up of one day I want to revert back to my good old ICS 4.0.4.
I have downloaded mobile Odin pro. I just wanted to know , if I flash ICS 4.0.4 for my country (taken from sammobile) will i be able to unroot and claim warranty / or be able to revert to stock samsung ICS and get my samsung software updates as usual ?
It would be really nice if someone could help me on this .
thanks in advance.
ray
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If I am not wrong, u shd flash stock roms using PC Odin for unrooting completely/claim warranty..
ray.rjg5 said:
Hi Guys,
Hey i was testing many Jb roms such as ultimate JB and rocket rom.
Now since i noticed that JB had just a battery back up of one day I want to revert back to my good old ICS 4.0.4.
I have downloaded mobile Odin pro. I just wanted to know , if I flash ICS 4.0.4 for my country (taken from sammobile) will i be able to unroot and claim warranty / or be able to revert to stock samsung ICS and get my samsung software updates as usual ?
It would be really nice if someone could help me on this .
thanks in advance.
ray
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as Shyam replied earlier, yes you can do with PC Odin.
Depends on your purpose. Are you still going to use it for your personal use ? or are you going to sell back to Samsung ?
If you are going to sell back to samsung / claim for warranty (if your current state need any claim of it).
If you are going to sell back to Samsung / claim your warranty, better you just flash back original firmware (can be downloaded from samfirmware.com) with PC Odin. You should need around 5 minutes (plus-minus) to flash it back.
By doing this, you will loose your root, get original firmware (ROM), with original (stock) kernel. Once you are on pure stock kernel, please do not do any wipe data, as I believe you know the consequences.
But if you want to keep root (and use it for personnal), you can use Mobile ODIN. But you have to check first which version is running on JB rom, since according to you, you are now on JB custom rom. My understanding, earlier mobile ODIN doesn't work on JB rom.
If you don't want the hassle of doing so, Just :
Flash back original firmware (download from samfirmware.com), with PC Odin
Once boot up on ICS, go to stock recovery (Vol UP+Power+Home), flash Philz Kernel. (you will get root + CWM). You can refer to Philz thread, and download his correct kernel for your ICS built number.
Good Luck!
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