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Um...that depends. Do you want to?
If you're comfortable with flashing then I would, if not then probably no.
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should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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I absolutely agree with this answer. If you are thinking of flashing a ROM, what is the reason you are thinking about doing it? If you decide to go for it, then absolutely make sure you know completely what you are doing by reading as much as you can. Research first will save grief and frustration later. Let's just say I learned that the hard way. The only time I had any issues was when I didn't follow this advice.
Good luck with whichever way you decide to go.
TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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^^^THIS^^^
Damn 4 ppl in a day...wow
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Just take time to read and understand the while process before you start flashing. DO NOT try and figure out stuff as you go, as that is how stupid mistakes are made and you mess up your phone.
Check to make sure the 3 button combo for recovery and download modes are working, and just know and follow the steps laid out in the many tutorials you can find here on xda. If you can follow directions at all, your phone will soon be doing sweet ****, and you will probably become addicted to flashing and trying new things.
I am not all that knowledgeable about how stuff works, so I never try and modify stuff that hasn't been tried and tested by somebody else, and I've never run into any serious problems. I've flashed too many roms to remember, and never screwed up my phone beyond a simple fix, all thanks to a little careful reading.
Once you flash your first rom successfully, the process is simple and fun. Just make sure and read the thread for each rom you want to try carefully so that you know of all possible issues, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Make sure you know all the worst things that can happen. Not to scare you from doing it. On the contrary, once you know what's the worst, and you know how to fix it or prevent it, you're good to go.
Like everyone here says (because it's true) READ everything. Read the WHOLE OPs and multiple pages of everything. If someone had problem with something, they probably already mentioned it somewhere in the 23482 pages (it sucks, but you rather spend some time reading than have a dead phone).
At first everything will be uncertain (first time watching the bar go across the download mode screen when flashing from Odin) and sometimes you'll feel like you've bricked your phone. Just read the threads about ACTUAL bricked phones to know what NOT to do.
Actually, what I suggest is to find a rom that you like, but more importantly has REALLY thorough documentation about how to install. Once you do it a couple of times it'll be smooth sailing from there, and you'll be able to work with any kind of rom easily (terminology and stuff becomes more familiar too).
glhf
I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom
mwiz123 said:
I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom
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So you ask the same question in a different format. Tell us that you at least read some of the replies above. Right?
Talk to people that have rommed (if that's a word. If not, then Copyright bdgiese90 2011). If they know your phone well and can help if you have questions beyond what is answered in OP's, then you can make a choice from that too. But seriously. Do your reading first. Installing a ROM isn't something other people decide for you.
And one more thing. Don't ask the same question again with different wording. Read what all of these intelligent people are posting to you. Believe it or not, they ARE helpful
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You sound ambivalent and unsure. Bad combination. Step away from the phone before you hurt it.
Is there a working CyanogenMod rom for the facsinate, I've read some post but just want a yes or no answer please?
Not totally working.
and.... wrong section.
go look at the cm7 thread in the development section. it makes it very clear what is working and what isnt.
Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.
bobloblaw1 said:
Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.
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Hate to be a downer but its not really any different than installing another rom. Not that doing your own research is a bad thing but you seem like you're trying to frighten people. This phone does not brick easily. The only difference here with cm7 is that you have to odin to get off it.
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.
A person who can't take 30 seconds and read the first post in either of the two cyanogenmod threads and has to ask needs a dose of reality.
And yes, the phone is quite recoverable but only if you know what you are doing. We have seen enough of the "i've spent the last 12 hours trying to recover my phone because I flashed xyz incorrectly" to warrant some caution.
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Why so grouchy?
At least the question wasn't posted in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116424
That is where the info for the closest-to-pure CM7 ROM there is on the site.
WARNING: If you don't like it or it happens to brick your phone, you will need odin and a good working image to go back to. These are available on the site. I strongly recommend you find them and familiarize yourself on the how-to of those before embarking down the road of CM7.
I ran TestBuild2 from the above link for sever days. It is nice but has too many stability defects to be reasonable for me because I use my phone for work.
stfu noob, reed some of the forum first
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stfu noob, reed some of the forum first
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Really unnecessary from someone who.never posted before or anyone for that matter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038478 'nuff said.
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Hey gsuys i was wondering if anyone knows a video on youtube that shows exactly installing a Tom? Also can someone please tell me what a bootloader and a kernel is? I've been researching but i can't find anything since im a noob..
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I think you mean a ROM. Bootloaders are files which load other data and programs which are then executed from RAM. Often, multiple-stage boot loaders are used, during which several programs of increasing complexity sequentially load one after the other in a process of chain loading.
As far as Android is concerned, the kernel file is related to threading and memory management. It's sort of the map of the infrastructure that helps the other programs when and how to act and manage the resources.
For your own sake, take a week or two to do some reading and get familiar with the terminology, software, and processes involved with flashing a ROM. I can promise you that without some basic slef-taught information, you will end up bricking the hardware 75% of the time. Get to understand how the phone works and why other people have problems, and how they solved them. Don't make mistakes that others have made when the information on how to avoid it is here in the forums.
Many people are too impatient or uninterested in how these phones work to do the due diligence. You can find ROM flashing guides, but without some basic knowledge, if something goes wrong you will find yourself in panic mode. Just look through these forums. Half of them start with 'HELP!' or 'Phone Bricked'. Don't be one of them. Arm yourself with some information and you will soon be solving your own problems, and possibly helping others.
Good luck and have fun. The Captivate is one of the most moddable smartphones out there, you have already made a good decision. Don't stop now!
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
Listen to clemmie.
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CremeFraiche said:
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
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+1 on josh @ mobile tech videos. That site was 85% of the research I did on my first flash. The other 15% was asking courteous questions to the great people on this forum.
Agreed on sticking with 2.2 ROM at first, less chance of hard brick and they are very stable.
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esteban836 said:
Also can someone please tell me what a bootloader and a kernel is?
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Check THIS out!
CremeFraiche said:
see that wasnt hard to ask without a subtle insult. mobiletechvideos has plenty of install tuts for 2.2 and 2.3.3 based roms. stick with 2.2 roms to lessen the chance of a perma brick
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I second, third, and fourth, the Mobiltech videos for the cappy. They should be mandatory for every noob to watch.
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I second, third, and fourth, the Mobiltech videos for the cappy. They should be mandatory for every noob to watch.
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Whats wrong with reading forums of the rom before hand? Don't get me wrong I've used videos (my very first flash and my first GB rom) but I had done a good reading before hand. I had a decent idea on what I had to do before watching videos. =/
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Whats wrong with reading forums of the rom before hand? Don't get me wrong I've used videos (my very first flash and my first GB rom) but I had done a good reading before hand. I had a decent idea on what I had to do before watching videos. =/
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I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
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I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
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I understand you but I feel like op hasn't read anything about flashing or the risk of it. Don't know feel like he trying to take shortcuts and is going to end up bricking his phone. Hope I'm wrong though.
MonoControl said:
I don't think theirs anything wrong with reading up in the forums, its just a lot more easier on newcomers to watch the videos so they have something to look at step by step and if they want to they can go back and watch different parts over and over =] well at least that's how I see it lol
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+1
When I flashed my first ROM, I had read quite a bit on here, but I watched one of Josh's videos and paused at about every step! Bottom line here is, everyone is different and some people are "visual" learners. Having said that, I agree whole heartedly with the "read twice flash once" (then follow a vid if ya have to) mentality.
Of course, the videos are very good and simplify things immensely. However, what the videos do not show you often times is how to avoid mistakes and errors and how to fix them if you make them. This is why it is always a good idea to read through the thread of the kernel or ROM or what have you to see what has gone wrong for others. It can seem daunting to try to read through a 20+ page thread, which may take an hour, but that hour might save you 4 or more hours while trying to recover from a brick or failed flash. Add to that some peace of mind because perhaps you've seen or read about the same issue and can do some problem solving.
Both are helpful, but reading threads is essential.
I want to root my Dell Streak 7, 16 GB, T-Mobile model but I've been hesitant to do so because I've heard of many people getting their devices bricked after attempting to.
What are the chances of me bricking my device in the process of rooting and is it worth taking the risk or not?
Thanks.
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I want to root my Dell Streak 7, 16 GB, T-Mobile model but I've been hesitant to do so because I've heard of many people getting their devices bricked after attempting to.
What are the chances of me bricking my device in the process of rooting and is it worth taking the risk or not?
Thanks.
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If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.
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If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.
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If you're gonna root it would be much easier to just flash the Clockwork Mod and flash DJ Steve's custom ROM for Froyo that comes tweaked and all
otnos said:
If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.
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Yes, I'm on 2.2. And thanks for the info, I'll check it out.
cdzo72 said:
If you're gonna root it would be much easier to just flash the Clockwork Mod and flash DJ Steve's custom ROM for Froyo that comes tweaked and all
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Hm.. I'm very new to all this Android stuff so I have no idea what all of that means. If you could give me more input on how to do that and where I could find all of that, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks for answering though guys
Allow me to be very frank and honest... the fact that you ask for the information to be spoon fed to you allows us all to assume you haven't done near enough reading, the LAST thing you should be doing is rooting. The act of looking for the information will acclimate you to the things you should know. There are several threads on modifying the Streak 7 and what to do should you run into a wall. Until you read AND UNDERSTAND ALL OF THOSE THREADS you should flash ANYTHING to your device, please heed the warning, if not you'll be one of the hundreds getting flamed because you refused to educate yourself before tinkering with your device.
Yes, I at one time was a noob, and each time you buy a different device you are somewhat of a noob. I just purchased a Galaxy S2 and a Note to replace my Streak, I spent 2 weeks reading articles, skimming through ROM threads and devouring hundreds of pages before I flashed anything so I wouldn't have any trouble...
I for one did lots of reading but could not find all the answers, so I posted in the General Section. Well, over 500 views and not one reply. Nobody has done a Nandroid backup/restore???
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I for one did lots of reading but could not find all the answers, so I posted in the General Section. Well, over 500 views abjuring not one reply. Nobody has done a Nandroid backup/restore???
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All the answers are in just a couple of threads
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All the answers are in just a couple of threads
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A needle in a big haystack! I can understand not wanting to explain with every move but all my question required a Y/N answer. Does that fit your repeated "spoon feed" answer?
As one posted, we are expected to read hundreds of posts to find one post where our question is answered. Is that just because that's the everyone is treated, so your expected to pass it along?
To answer your question would be a big fat YES! YOU ARE expected to read through those hundreds of posts that noobs such as yourself create because the answers to all your questions are in just a couple of threads posted by the more experienced. I read through those hundreds of threads to know what I know so what exempts the rest of you from the same adherence to the forum rules?
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To answer your question would be a big fat YES! YOU ARE expected to read through those hundreds of posts that noobs such as yourself create because the answers to all your questions are in just a couple of threads posted by the more experienced. I read through those hundreds of threads to know what I know so what exempts the rest of you from the same adherence to the forum rules?
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Well Mr. more experienced, so far not one of the more experienced hasn't answered with a simple Y/N. Must be too difficult to press a few keys, I guess or it's the "I had to learn the hard, so they'll have to also" mentality? You are one bitter person!
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Well Mr. more experienced, so far not one of the more experienced hasn't answered with a simple Y/N. Must be too difficult to press a few keys, I guess or it's the "I had to learn the hard, so they'll have to also" mentality? You are one bitter person!
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CDZO72 is completely correct in that you SHOULD read hundreds of posts, not nessecerilly hundreds of pages.
How much is 100 posts? by default 1 page is 10 posts, so it's 10 pages of a thread. Usually you only need the OP and mabye the last 5 posts in a thread.
Then add in you should read half a dozen or so stickies. 50 posts of the RIGHT posts or so and you already can get an idea of what's good/bad, right/wrong. You can easily read several hundred in a sitting as skimming counts as reading for unimportant posts.
Who's fault is it when someone bricks their device because they didnt read everything? I'm pretty much the go-to guy for generating documentation and I rarely ever get any real suggestions to change/improve stuff.
All my stuff is medium-difficulty instructions as I refuse to hand-hold people though as most of my stuff is stuff that WILL BRICK you if done incorrectly. Many other guides tend to be easily broken, due to changes in stuff as hand holding is highly specific, generalized ones arnt easily broken, especially the ones I make.
The phrasing and tone that cdzo I dont agree with though, but until a certian threshold it's none of my concern. It's strongly worded but not rude yet. And he's completely right about the points, if you mess with a device and dont read everything, what is the next post you make? "HALP MY THNG DUN WORK"
I am assuming OP is new to android as a whole and now he's been pointed in the right direction to learn more.
OP hasnt implied he's refusing to read stuff, he merely implies that he has no idea what he should be reading. he SHOULD have read the stickies as they do cover most topics, he could have possibly read it and not understood it.
I always assume that the vast majority of users simply read the stuff and never post as they dont need to/have no issues with it. Often time the posters are the ones that dont understand/refuse to read for various reasons (and some of them could be legit reasons such as language barriers)
tl;dr: the vast majority of posts are issues that can be solved by thourghly reading the stickies, if they arnt they should tell me and we'll figure something out
Thanks to TheManii and explanation of my behavior
Thank you TheManii for backing me up to an extent, and I will be the first to apologize for my somewhat harsh answers at times but the points I want to make are the following:
1) If you don't have the time to do what TheManii just suggested then NO, no one should mod their device without feeling they can reverse what has been done
2) I have several devices.. my Streak 5, the Streak 7, Transformer Prime, SGS2 I9100 and an iPad 2... and lemme tell ya, comparitively speaking, these Streak forums are sleepy compared to the stupidity you see in some of those... especially the SGS2 forum, there are at least 100 NEW threads daily and 99% of them are JUNK, and 99% of the posts in existing threads are JUNK, so you can imagine how frustrating it is for someone such as myself when I acquire a new device and then have to weed through ALL THAT to find my answers, because I almost refuse to start a new thread because I doubt that anything I come across some developer has not already addressed, I just have to find it
3) so let me apologize to whoever may be offended by my sarcasm and rants, but if just a few people are motivated to alter their forum behavior by it, well I am more than willing to bear the burden of being lashed out at by the noobies that resent my responses
4) once again thank you TheManii for your support (I gave you a thanks for your post , once again you have proven you are TheManii
I dont believe you're doing it to be malicious, sometimes you dont really realize it until someone points it out.
Forums are always baised towards having users that are having trouble, as it's just as unproductive to make a post that says you got and understood everything. (unless it's some sort of thank you thread)
Actively saying you dont want to read is grounds for getting tarred and feathered by the mods (as in heavily chastized but nothing serious unless it's repeat offenses), I am not a mod though and fortunately dell devices dont get millions of posts an hour.
Just to repeat though, I always assume good faith in the OP, and he hasnt stated anything towards that yet.
hello friends, I saw the post and read because I thought it would help me to be root, I thought to find some link, I believe, and if they let me say that with a single link would suffice, or just see and pass by, I also have revealed with my htc and what would happen if they become damaged, and finally because of who will? for me is a language barrier, and read only the interesting threads but do not know much, a greeting
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I've read 100's of pages of posts after reading some of "cdzo72's"" rude rants to noobies. I believe sombody else mentioned why does "cdzo72" even reply to a thread but only to rant?
TheManii, I really like the one where you told somebody, "Well, I'll toss you a bone". Really??
Then there's a response from "giveen" where I questioned his video(s). His answer was a link to Google! I know you guys are developers and you guys make this Dell S7 section for the most part. I shouldn't be agitating you guys but neither of you are going to win a Mr. Congeniality Awards.
Do you guys have children? If they ask you a question, do you give them the same kind of response that "some" noobies get here? Gosh, I hope not!
I'm a moderator in another forum and you would have heard from me long time ago because this rudeness just isn't allowed, no matter who you are or even what you bring to the plate.
In reference to my replyless thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516530, I don't really see how a simple yes/no would have killed you?
I am not a dev, but I CAN speak for some the old devs that left the S5 area, they stopped replying/deving because they kept getting inundated with stupid questions.
When every time you get bombarded with questions that were clearly answered somewhere else it tells you it's simply easier to not release something publicly. I personally know one dev that stopped making releases because he kept getting asked stupid questions.
I'm hesitatnt to release anything if I'm not willing to fully support it, hence why the great majority of my roms are never released/only released to a small group.
Anyone who's on xda is by definition not a child (even this isnt the case, I would be surprised if there wernt devs on xda under 15, but I expect that many of them learned entirely on their own at that age), there's a point where you should be able to learn on your own without assistance.
The State Of Our Site – Not An Official Statement But A Perspective this sums it up to a degree. I could have sworn there was an official announcement that xda was for devs and users were simply along for the ride, not the other way around. I cant find it, I may be mistaken though as that link isnt a binding statement.
Just as much I've seen forums that outright instant-ban you for a couple days for even the simplest dumb question. With the size of it I dont really blame them. Keep in mind some like somethingawful requires PAYING to register and the users know beforehand that being probated is really easy for making bad/dumb posts. Yet they still register and pay to do so.
i read alot on the forum and its getting more and more messy here
when i look at the rom section for instance the Galaxy note
i see warnings , roms but i dont see any safe sign on the postings and if there are any safe sings then they must be better displayed
to me its starting to look like its very unsafe to download and flash a rom from this site
and i must say i think thats a shame i always enjoyed it to flash roms from here on my phone's
so maybe its time for the owners and developpers to start thinking about safety and better guides on how to flash
but thats my 2 cent about this and maybe there are more people who have the same feeling
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i read alot on the forum and its getting more and more messy here
when i look at the rom section for instance the Galaxy note
i see warnings , roms but i dont see any safe sign on the postings and if there are any safe sings then they must be better displayed
to me its starting to look like its very unsafe to download and flash a rom from this site
and i must say i think thats a shame i always enjoyed it to flash roms from here on my phone's
so maybe its time for the owners and developpers to start thinking about safety and better guides on how to flash
but thats my 2 cent about this and maybe there are more people who have the same feeling
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As long your on safe kernel and follow the op in flashing the custom rom or rooting, then there is no problem.
the peppi said:
i read alot on the forum and its getting more and more messy here
when i look at the rom section for instance the Galaxy note
i see warnings , roms but i dont see any safe sign on the postings and if there are any safe sings then they must be better displayed
to me its starting to look like its very unsafe to download and flash a rom from this site
and i must say i think thats a shame i always enjoyed it to flash roms from here on my phone's
so maybe its time for the owners and developpers to start thinking about safety and better guides on how to flash
but thats my 2 cent about this and maybe there are more people who have the same feeling
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Just follow the steps given in the OP.They are tried and tested methods to install those ROMs.You'll never g wrong as long as you follow them.
The warnings are for noons that don't like to read before doing things, so the developers have to put this big warnings to not be blamed for any problem, and after this warnings, we see a lot of people that brick there phones every day bec. Of not reading carefully
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ok i understand this all but how do noobs know what is safe and what is not safe thats my problem
there is alot of reading to do the pictures and signatures dont make it very easy
then the colors can drive you up the wall
the comments that are given by those who detroy theire phone is also not very stimulating
so its very hard for noobs to see what is safe and whats not safe
the peppi said:
ok i understand this all but how do noobs know what is safe and what is not safe thats my problem
there is alot of reading to do the pictures and signatures dont make it very easy
then the colors can drive you up the wall
the comments that are given by those who detroy theire phone is also not very stimulating
so its very hard for noobs to see what is safe and whats not safe
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i understand what you feeling mate.. its sometimes happen to me.. until i decide what i'm gonna do and looking for the safe way to do it
.. and yes all dev always write "do with your own risk" .. coz no guarante if someone phone damage
.. but a lot of people here care to share they experience and so many thread discussion about that.. just read carefully.. where your start from and what you wanna do
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yeah, its what you call increasing chaos, one of the laws of nature.
what further enhances it in my opinion is: unclear/unuser friendly product to begin with. Humans ever in creasing spoiledness due to the service oriented culture/industries, people expect to be guided by hand, and when its more complicated they become lazy, so lazyness as much to.
Noobs clutter because they dont read/research but blindly ask. I wonder what would happen if they buy microwave and how they figure out how to operate it. Ah well, the warning signs not to put living things in are needed, and even with the signs people are dumb enought to try it.
rant, rant and so on and so forth, rant.
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yeah, its what you call increasing chaos, one of the laws of nature.
what further enhances it in my opinion is: unclear/unuser friendly product to begin with. Humans ever in creasing spoiledness due to the service oriented culture/industries, people expect to be guided by hand, and when its more complicated they become lazy, so lazyness as much to.
Noobs clutter because they dont read/research but blindly ask. I wonder what would happen if they buy microwave and how they figure out how to operate it. Ah well, the warning signs not to put living things in are needed, and even with the signs people are dumb enought to try it.
rant, rant and so on and so forth, rant.
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Lmao a giant true
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