What kind of function does the Droid 3's internal coax cable have? Does it work as a wi-fi-antenna, GPS-antenna or both?
I'm going to replace a few parts in my phone, but it looks like I can't do it without breaking the coax cable...just wondering if I can manage a few days without it till I get a new one..
Not sure which cable you are referring, but you should be able to take the whole thing apart without breaking any cables. If it is the one that attaches to the backplate of the phone, you have to lift up on the connector on the phone.
Pictures and more details of what you are trying to do may be helpfull to answering your question
It's the one attached to the backplate. And the backplate is one of parts I'm going to change, but the new backplate replacement does note come with a coax cable. The cable on the old backplate is impossible to remove without breaking it as it's glued to the backplate. Disconnecting the connector is not a problem.
I understand now, I looked at a spare backplate I have and the cable is soldered to the phone in several spots, that would indeed be very hard to remove, but possible with a good iron. I hate how a lot of the replacement parts out there come without important pieces, this is usually a good headache.
If you have the part in hand, it is a simple swap, try it out and see what antennas don't work by trying to connect to gps, wifi etc. If you don't have the part in hand, I would look elsewhere to obtain one.
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***If this does not belong here I appologize, and feel free to move this if necessary. I just figured the development community is most likely to take this "upgrade" on***
After seeing that someone used Palm's wireless charger on their non-palm phone; I decided to put one on my Droid Incredible.
***This was done to a completely stock Dinc. I did not use any special back, and the stock back gets to stay on (unlike in the other video that I saw)
Wireless Charging the Droid Incredible
**Disclaimer: This will void your warranty, and if you solder something wrong will probably break your phone. With that said I can in no way be held accountable for anything that occurs while performing this “upgrade” to your phone.
>>>>If anyone knows where I can buy that little void sticker that you will see in a picture below, please let me know! If we can get that sticker then our warranty is not voided by doing this.
Supplies:
1.Palm touchstone charger http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/categories/palm/4/accessories/FB300AA%23AC3
2.Palm touchstone phone back http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB306AA%23AC3?
3.Micro USB cable
4.Soldering Iron (the finer the tip on this the better)
5.Torx T6 screw driver
6.Safe pry tool (or a small flat head screwdriver)
7.Very tiny insulated wires (I just pulled mine out of a USB cable that I cut up)
8.Electrical Tape
9.[Optional] Multimeter to test that you actually made a good connection
How To (Images are of a higher quality (12mp) so I had to stick them in zip files to get them on here):
1.The palm touchstone phone back has a sticker inside of it that encases the wireless charging receiver, so you need to peel this off. Once it is peeled off it will look like this (without the wires soldered onto it):
(Images can be seen in: Palm Receiver.7z)
2.Remove the battery cover and the battery then unscrew the back from your phone (please view a tare down video for details, there are plenty of them on you tube that I used for a reference.)
1.All you need is a torx t6 screwdriver and a safe pry tool, I used a small flat head screwdriver and it worked just fine. Unscrew the 4 screws around the sides and then carefully pry off every place that the battery cover clips on, as they also hold on the red back.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc Inside.7z)
3.Solder on some wires to the USB connector as shown in the below image without soldering onto the pins next to them. This is difficult and takes some time and patience, since these connectors are very small and close (note the polarity in the image, notated in red).
A.Also it is necessary to place a piece of electrical tape over the components right next to the connector (Green box in the image) as they will short out the power and make it impossible to charge your phone if you do not (I found that out the hard way and went back and fixed it).
B.One final note here is that I had to melt down the red phone backing inside to allow the cables to get past the case. See the green rectangle in the image above for where I had to do that. I just used my soldering iron and melted it down, it makes a pretty nice indention for the wires to fit through.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc USB.7z)
4.Now push out the rubber plug in the red phone backing next to the USB cover (this is encircled in Green in the image from step 2).
A.Run the cables that you just solder on through that so that they are sticking through to the battery compartment on your phone.
B.You can also stick on the palm receiver to the inside of your phone cover (note the direction and placement, as this is necessary to close your cover).
3.Note that I placed electrical tape over the wires. This was necessary to keep them from breaking off of the USB connector since the solder points are so small.
(Images can be seen in: Almost Done.7z)
5.Solder on the wires to the palm charger receiver and you are done. Now you just need to carefully place the wires towards the middle of the phone so that you can close the back of your phone entirely (this is another reason why the wires need to be small).
A.Note the polarity of the connection.
B.Also I put a piece of electrical tape over the connections on the palm charger receiver to protect them (not shown in the image).
(Images can be seen in: Wireless Charger.7z)
Here is a video of the end product and how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMVJ-vmWpg
Also I just verified that my compass is working without any problems.
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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Its been done with the Evo, but don't know anyone who did it with the Inc.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
What are you doing to align the coils? My biggest concern that's kept me from this is the magnets also would mess up the compass sensors readings which I for one actually value.
Wow, you managed to bring me out of my months of silence in posting...
I feel honored that I can get you out of your months of silence
The coil alignment is handled by the magnets inside of the palm touchstone charger itself (the base unit that plugs into the wall). The metal objects that you can see in the "Palm Receiver.7z" file are actually not magnets, but small circular pieces of metal that get pulled towards the charger base when you get them close to each other. So when you have the phone off of the charger, there are no magnets to mess with anything
Also you will notice that there is a piece of metal behind the coil, and that seems to block the inductive signal all together (because I tried to put it on backwards to no avail). Therefore your phone is mostly protected from the inductive transmission.
The only thing that I noticed, is that the touchscreen on the phone is a little weird when it is on the charger, but I see the same side effects when plugging the phone into a "non-htc" charger (before performing this "upgrade"). **I also saw this on my Moto Droid when connecting it to a 1 amp charger, and I have seen this with multiple other touchscreen devices so I think it just has something to do with the frequency of the charger.
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
pianoplayer said:
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
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Yah, it probably should be, and may get moved (which is perfectly fine by me). I put it in here because I am a developer and much more likely to do this, so I figured the development community would be more interested.
ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
nevetsvsx said:
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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I trust your method, I just don't trust my shaky hands
BTW there is a multi quote button so you dont have to do a separate post for each reply
I have a rubber case on my Dinc... would I need to remove it for charging?
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I think you will be ok if it is one of those thin (about 1mm thick) rubber cases. Anything thicker than that and you would probably have to install the wireless receiver on the case itself and remove your battery cover all together.
I tested a thin rubber case that I have (no more than 1mm thick I think) that fits a Droid Eris and it charges as long as its flush to the back of my phone.
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Wow, this is amazing, very well done. I think this is the first hard mod I've heard of for an Android. I guess gold cards were a sorta gray area.
I've had my Incredible modded to work with a Touchstone since around June of last year. It works great, but I must caution anyone thinking of doing this to be VERY careful. Experience with soldering and a steady hand is a must. One could fairly easily mess up their phone attempting to do this.
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Paul600k5 said:
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Sure, if you wanna take apart one of those generic receivers and try to fit it inside your phone!
nevetsvsx said:
You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
ThugEsquire said:
What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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No, the transmission of data wirelessly is achieved through modulated EM waves. This is simple inductance: a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, so a current carrying loop placed near another loop of wire will induce current in the other loop. The receiver in the phone is engineered to "create" the "proper" amount current to charge your battery when combined with the base. In theory yes, but not with this equipment.
How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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I have used the USB charger and data transfer cables without any problems at all. Also I have copied some files off of my phone to my PC since the "upgrade" and did not notice any extended times or anything that would remotely make me think something was wrong.
I did not run a speed test before and after to see if anything slowed down, but as you said we are only touching the power pins, so I highly doubt anything has changed.
Any one know of a company that can fix the USB port on a HTC Raider in Canada. Rogers wants to charge me $250 to fix it.
KillerbawX said:
Any one know of a company that can fix the USB port on a HTC Raider in Canada. Rogers wants to charge me $250 to fix it.
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You could probably buy two new Raiders for $250! Replacement might be the best bet, as you can likely find one on Kijiji for $100 or so. If you have a local cell repair joint, give them a call, and see if they offer the replacement. It might be tricky since the USB on the Raider (as other HTC phones) is actually a special type of HDMI jack that also has USB (known as MHL).
If you're adventurous, you might track down a broken Raider and attempt a part swap yourself. I've not seen the inside of the unit, so I can't say how easy or hard that would be at any skill level...
Hope you get it fixed up!
The part is on eBay you can always try to do it yourself should be a few small solder points
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KillerbawX said:
Any one know of a company that can fix the USB port on a HTC Raider in Canada. Rogers wants to charge me $250 to fix it.
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A friend needed this. We ordered one off ebay ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-USB-Pow...328529?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c422a1d1 ) and although it required opening the phone up and voiding the warranty, it required no soldering. He doesn't open electronics up very often, and said it wasn't very hard to do.
i was babbling abt this in a thread in the dev forum, thot i'd best do it also here in the proper forum for it:
i changed the USB port in my Raider, was very simple. Six little screws, two different lengths so keep track of them. One screw also holds down the teeny cover under which is where the tiny connector resides that connects the port to the fone circuit board. Once the fone is back together that's where you make the final connection between port and fone.
Slip off the battery cover, undo the six screws, take off that tiny little cover. Carefully work off the entire back housing. There's no front housing, just the screen glass and the fone circuitry bundled together.
Micro-USB port and ribbon connector is fastened to the housing with two more of those little screws. Change out the port with the new one. New part may not be an exact duplicate of the old part: that's ok. Reassemble the fone. Under that hole left by the tiny cover, press home the miniscule plug that connects up the port to the fone.
Put back the tiny cover, fasten back all the screws, and you're done. Port cost me $9 USD plus shipping on ebay.
lowfatmilk said:
i was babbling abt this in a thread in the dev forum, thot i'd best do it also here in the proper forum for it:
i changed the USB port in my Raider, was very simple. Six little screws, two different lengths so keep track of them. One screw also holds down the teeny cover under which is where the tiny connector resides that connects the port to the fone circuit board. Once the fone is back together that's where you make the final connection between port and fone.
Slip off the battery cover, undo the six screws, take off that tiny little cover. Carefully work off the entire back housing. There's no front housing, just the screen glass and the fone circuitry bundled together.
Micro-USB port and ribbon connector is fastened to the housing with two more of those little screws. Change out the port with the new one. New part may not be an exact duplicate of the old part: that's ok. Reassemble the fone. Under that hole left by the tiny cover, press home the miniscule plug that connects up the port to the fone.
Put back the tiny cover, fasten back all the screws, and you're done. Port cost me $9 USD plus shipping on ebay.
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Hey, dude, I know this thread is a little old, but can you PM me the link to where you bought your USB port? I think I need to replace my port (issues connecting to PC and charging requires wire wiggling), but I've read about certain ports not working with data transfer and only charging, and I don't want to make that kind of mistake.
projectisaac said:
Hey, dude, I know this thread is a little old, but can you PM me the link to where you bought your USB port? I think I need to replace my port (issues connecting to PC and charging requires wire wiggling), but I've read about certain ports not working with data transfer and only charging, and I don't want to make that kind of mistake.
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Try this? Says OEM so I imagine you wont lose functionality.
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/product-p/htc747235-qs.htm
Thank you! And only $8 too
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Hello, my galaxy note has been having some issues, a couple of days ago it would charge with the charger bent down but I decided to play around with the port with a toothpick to look for dust and bend the metal bit in the middle. Now it barely charges at all, I believe the charger bit is fairly cheap but I am not sure if it is very hard to do. I am wondering if I am best off buying a new phone or paying someone to fix it for me? Or just having a go at putting the new piece in myself? I have tried using another charger and the same charger charges other phones.
-Any Help Greatly Appreciated
jeffreymonk said:
Hello, my galaxy note has been having some issues, a couple of days ago it would charge with the charger bent down but I decided to play around with the port with a toothpick to look for dust and bend the metal bit in the middle. Now it barely charges at all, I believe the charger bit is fairly cheap but I am not sure if it is very hard to do. I am wondering if I am best off buying a new phone or paying someone to fix it for me? Or just having a go at putting the new piece in myself? I have tried using another charger and the same charger charges other phones.
-Any Help Greatly Appreciated
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If you are ok using a screwdriver (jewelers type), you won't have any issues. There are countless youtube video's that show the removal procedure on that usb port. Granted, I've been doing electronics for over 40 years, but it's about a 10 minute procedure. One thing I do, with these super tiny screws, is I keep a small magnet handy that is attached to the bottom of a small metal bowl. When I take out a screw, it goes in the bowl, and with the magnetism, it won't get lost that way.
When you replace the USB port, get one that matches the one you remove. Depending on the country you live in, there could be a few different types. They all, will charge your phone, but, if you get the wrong match, the cellular signal you end up with, could be 1/2 of what it should be, so if you are in a low signal area with the one you have now, with the wrong usb board, you could end up with no signal.
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If you are ok using a screwdriver (jewelers type), you won't have any issues. There are countless youtube video's that show the removal procedure on that usb port. Granted, I've been doing electronics for over 40 years, but it's about a 10 minute procedure. One thing I do, with these super tiny screws, is I keep a small magnet handy that is attached to the bottom of a small metal bowl. When I take out a screw, it goes in the bowl, and with the magnetism, it won't get lost that way.
When you replace the USB port, get one that matches the one you remove. Depending on the country you live in, there could be a few different types. They all, will charge your phone, but, if you get the wrong match, the cellular signal you end up with, could be 1/2 of what it should be, so if you are in a low signal area with the one you have now, with the wrong usb board, you could end up with no signal.
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Thankyou I will have a go at removing it I am a bit unsure of which one to buy so I will have a look around once I take it out, They are fairly cheap aren't they?
jeffreymonk said:
Thankyou I will have a go at removing it I am a bit unsure of which one to buy so I will have a look around once I take it out, They are fairly cheap aren't they?
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Yeah, less than $10(USD). Last one I got was like 8.95 or something.
Hi all,
I almost perfectly repaired my HTC One M7 but whilst taking it apart some tape snagged on one of the connectors and ripped the cable out of the snap/pop connector. I have some high res pics here, best I could do...
http://imgur.com/a/VVCrR
I think all but one ofthe pins are there, but some are pushed down so the cable can't split them to fit inbetween. I can't find a magnifying glass to try and part them carefully at the mo but will look tomorrow.
If I can get them apart and get the cable to fit I imagine I could solder a wire or somehow get the missing pin to connect?
Any ideas?
I find myself somewhat regularly having my cable not staying in while charging and having to take a toothpick to the port to scrape out the lint, etc. I don't know what the advantage is to not having a cover... Anyway, I had an idea, so I tried it out...
First, I bought 2 cheap items from eBay: silicone usb-type-c port plugs, (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-Silic...050618471&txnId=2385809555015&redirect=mobile), and a replacement port cover for an Xperia, (https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Dust-C...269274716&txnId=2018684085011&redirect=mobile).
Then, I sanded down the inward-facing side of the port cover, glued the silicone plug to it, and drilled a 1/16 hole in the proper place on my phone, and - voila! A new cover.
Notes:
- you can try various options, the pieces I got were just examples.
- obviously, if you're drilling holes in your phone, 1) be extremely careful, or you'll destroy it, and 2) if you still have a warranty, you'll probably void it.
- the silicone plugs work fine as they are, but I found that every time I took it out to use the port, I ended up forgetting about it and leaving it there.
- the more time and care you put into it, the more professional it will look. Mike's kind of hack-y, but it's fine for me...
Nice and clean work but you have to remember always to close it after charge/connecting (like my old Z3 Compact)