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I went back to stock from liberty so i could install the official update. In the process of installing the update, i lost root. Am i able to reroot or am I stuck for the time being. I know i should have used the forever root, but i didn't. I just want to know if I'm able to root again or am i stuck for the time being. I really hope i can but if i cant, i will live with it.
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same here. I went from Shift3r to stock, flashed the update, lost root, now can't seem to re-root.
Yes, most ppl are reporting that it works - you may have to yr twice, and after the phone rebooted the first time after applying the update, it's not a bad idea to reboot it again manually before starting anything.
So I definitely forever rooted before applying the update and lost root after the update as well... I really hope that I don't have to flash back to re-root and then take the update again...
Lost root
I was on stock 886, rooted. I flashed forever root and updated, but still lost root. Then I flashed back to 886 and now I can't seem to re-root. Rawr!
root is possible after update
follow "dfib"s manual method to get root back:
copy and paste: androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/460668-can-i-re-root-after-5-8-894-broke-root.html[/url]
I had a never rooted droid bionic that received the OTA update and try to get root with Pete's Motorola Root Tools and R3l3AS3DRoot and both failed multiple times so i tried the manual method to gain root and it worked!
-as always make sure you run command prompt as "admin"
-and highlight code to make sure you include all "spaces" (some are hard to see)
-when extracting exploit.zip extract to desktop
happy rooting
Yep, I followed dfib's instructions (although credit goes to P3) and it worked perfectly!
Will Pete's unroot work or will you have to manually unroot?
Thanks. I was really upset the first time i lost my data network after installing the update that was supposed to fix that and was the only reason i installed it.
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Will Pete's unroot work or will you have to manually unroot?
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Pete's will only work on .886
smokedkill said:
Thanks. I was really upset the first time i lost my data network after installing the update that was supposed to fix that and was the only reason i installed it.
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Yeah I still lost my network as well after update. I always had HTC phones prior to this. Next year I'm diching the Motorola junk and going back to HTC. I never had issues with HTC whether it was Windows Mobile or Android.
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vzzoom said:
follow "dfib"s manual method to get root back:
copy and paste: androidforums.com/bionic-all-things-root/460668-can-i-re-root-after-5-8-894-broke-root.html[/url]
I had a never rooted droid bionic that received the OTA update and try to get root with Pete's Motorola Root Tools and R3l3AS3DRoot and both failed multiple times so i tried the manual method to gain root and it worked!
-as always make sure you run command prompt as "admin"
-and highlight code to make sure you include all "spaces" (some are hard to see)
-when extracting exploit.zip extract to desktop
happy rooting
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This worked! XDA Forum is just the most awesome of all times. I reopened my Titanium and it prompted the superuser for me to grant access. I'm rooted again!
Says my SU Binary is out of date in Superuser, and force closes when trying to update the SU Binary. When I try to update Superuser, it says the signature doesn't match. And SU Update Fixer keeps failing. Is there another way that I can update the Superuser.
Update:
Tried the process again, and this time, I cannot get past "./zerg". Says cannot copy boomsh permission denied.
Root Check says I am rooted though. I think the Superuser is the problem
Second Update: For whatever reason, after doing the above, R3L3AS3DRoot worked and got me rooted and Superuser working properly. It pushed the sytem back to before I updated also.
I was on stock, rooted 5.9.902 and was just prompted to Download and Install 5.9.905 OTA. I backed up root with Voodoo OTA Root Keeper, temp unrooted, downloaded and installed 5.9.905, let the phone reboot, then restored root using Voodoo OTA Root Keeper. All went smooth and am now on the official OTA with root. I noticed the addition of Google+ as a preinstalled app. I am assuming, however, that there is no difference between the 5.9.905 that was pulled from Motorola's servers a few weeks back.
Thanks I was wondering what I should do about the root. Went back to unsafe mode, unrooted with backup thanks to rootkeeper, and now I'm waiting for the update! Cheers.
You will need to remove safestrap and may even have to FXZ or fastboot your preinstall partition before the OTA will succeed.
that's what i was afraid of... can i just download the update and do it myself with safestrap installed? I'm not the complete expert so step by step instructions would be appreciated.
I will wait for the OTA notice. if I have to reroot and reeinstall Safestrap I will.
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You will need to remove safestrap and may even have to FXZ or fastboot your preinstall partition before the OTA will succeed.
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that's what i was afraid of... can i just download the update and do it myself with safestrap installed? I'm not the complete expert so step by step instructions would be appreciated.
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You don't have to remove Safestrap, or un-root as long as you haven't removed any bloatware apps. They can be frozen in TB and it will install. You will lose root, I used Motofail to re-root, then you will have to rerun the install for safestrap recovery. 15 minutes and your good to go.
Agreed. I just removed safe strap, didn't bother to unroot. Tried to force the update repeatedly with no luck. So i took it from the Phandroid news link. Flashed in stock recovery. Kept root (used for3ver root to root I months and months ago). Reinstalled safe strap, then switched back to my safe side which was DroidTheory's ICS, but now with a better radio now. Radio synced immediately...whereas normally it takes a minute or two. Loving this update.
--Sent from GlaDos baked potato
hey just fyi if you flashed it back to 902 stock and took the update you can use the 902 one click root to reroot, i just tried it
Still rooted
I just let the 5.9.905 ota run this morning on my rooted Bionic. No unroot, no backup, or nuthin. I know, not the wisest thing to do but hey, I was caffeine deficient and spoiling for a fight Anyway after the reboot:
Root check shows it's still rooted.
Opened a shell on the handset with Terminal Explorer and successfully su.
Opened an adb shell and successfully su.
I haven't had a chance to explore what's changed yet, but I did notice that Google+ is no longer un-installable.
I might be the exception, but it appears that the ota doesn't affect root on a previously rooted handset. All seems good in my little piece of the world.
Every time I try to update, it says I need a valid Motorola account. I'm on stock, but have done many customizations to it, along with the webtop. I know how to get back to plain stock, just haven't felt like doing it yet. I suppose at some point I will have to when we finally get ICS.
the funny part is that I never had any issues with my data connection until 905 came around, but I have been having them for the past 2 weeks or so.
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Non-rooted Bionic constantly trying to download 5.9.905
The past few days my Bionic has been constantly trying to download an update. I came online to investigate the reason and found that 5.9.905 just got released. The download symbol has been in the notification bar all day for the last few days and the battery is always dead when I wake up.
I have looked online to try to update manually but all the filenames of the 5.9.905 download links are actually labeled Blur_Version.5.9.902.XT875.Verizon.en.US.zip. Link this one here at xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=40. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
The filename is in regards to the version over which it can install.
You just have to download one from may or later, I believe. Pick a page that says it's the 905 update, download the zip file with 902 in the name, put it on your external sd card, and reboot into stock recovery (I use adb reboot recovery), press both volume buttons in, then "install zip from sdcard" use power button to select. go down to the zip file we just put on the sdcard, hit the power button and BING BANG BOOM 905!
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Thanks, 5thAgent. I'll give it a try.
So I've been searching through the forums for last several hours trying to figure out the best solution to my needs with relatively little luck. I'm currently running Safe Strap 1.07 on Android 2.3.4. Ultimately, I'd like to be running latest version of safe strap (3.11) along with the latest OTA on my unsafe system.
When I boot to the unsafe system it lets me download the OTA, but attempting to install the OTA always fails. Do I have have to completely reset my phone to factory via RSDLite or is there another way?
Your help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks
-Stryker
1Stryker said:
So I've been searching through the forums for last several hours trying to figure out the best solution to my needs with relatively little luck. I'm currently running Safe Strap 1.07 on Android 2.3.4. Ultimately, I'd like to be running latest version of safe strap (3.11) along with the latest OTA on my unsafe system.
When I boot to the unsafe system it lets me download the OTA, but attempting to install the OTA always fails. Do I have have to completely reset my phone to factory via RSDLite or is there another way?
Your help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks
-Stryker
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What version of software do you currently have? The OTA isn't supposed to push until tomorrow(04/15).
If you have any stock apps frozen you'll need to thaw them out. If you've deleted them you'll need to do a FXZ to get back to stock.
You won't get the OTA to JB unless you are on ICS. Google "House of Bionic" for the best support to get you where you want to be.
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I just updated my unsafe system to 5.9.905. How do i go about getting it to the latest version?
Its been awhile but if memory serves that's the last update before you go to ICS then JB. Are you rooted? Have you tried downloading the update yet? What have you tried etc?
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I just updated my unsafe system to 5.9.905. How do i go about getting it to the latest version?
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Elaborating on geekabilly's post...
Go to unsafe side, and uninstall ss from within ss app. Then uninstall app.
Use Samurai's HOB to get to ICS, and obtain root.
Update SU binaries
Backup root with VOODOO OTA Rootkeeper and Temp Unroot.
Go into "system settings" -> "about phone" - > check for updates.
If the update is available, let it update your phone, then use voodoo to hopefully restore root.
I haven't taken the OTA, as I am very happy on CM 10.1, and have no interest in being stuck on stock. So I don't know if you can keep root, but if you want to get JB, and try to keep root, IMO this is your best bet.
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You won't get the OTA to JB unless you are on ICS. Google "House of Bionic" for the best support to get you where you want to be.
Tapatalking .246 Bionic
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Sent From My Flash Machine... I mean Bionic.
Worked!
This worked like a charm. My phone is currently on JB and rooted! Note, if it's not letting you get the OTA, just download it from somewhere else and place it in your SDCard. Then boot into stock recovery (volume up and down, select recovery, and hit volume up and down together again), then select update.zip and find your update.
Now I only have 1 more question...when I FXZ'd I forgot to uninstall safestrap from within the app. I believe this isn't a big deal since FXZ wipes everything. However, I am worried that this may cause issues when installing safestrap again.
Also, I only had safestrap 1.07 before I did this all. Does anyone know if a roms I've backed up with safestrap 1.07 will still be flashable in safestrap 3.11? I just really want to avoid bricking my phone because if I have to FXZ again I will loose root.
Thanks!
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Elaborating on geekabilly's post...
Go to unsafe side, and uninstall ss from within ss app. Then uninstall app.
Use Samurai's HOB to get to ICS, and obtain root.
Update SU binaries
Backup root with VOODOO OTA Rootkeeper and Temp Unroot.
Go into "system settings" -> "about phone" - > check for updates.
If the update is available, let it update your phone, then use voodoo to hopefully restore root.
I haven't taken the OTA, as I am very happy on CM 10.1, and have no interest in being stuck on stock. So I don't know if you can keep root, but if you want to get JB, and try to keep root, IMO this is your best bet.
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1Stryker said:
This worked like a charm. My phone is currently on JB and rooted! Note, if it's not letting you get the OTA, just download it from somewhere else and place it in your SDCard. Then boot into stock recovery (volume up and down, select recovery, and hit volume up and down together again), then select update.zip and find your update.
Now I only have 1 more question...when I FXZ'd I forgot to uninstall safestrap from within the app. I believe this isn't a big deal since FXZ wipes everything. However, I am worried that this may cause issues when installing safestrap again.
Also, I only had safestrap 1.07 before I did this all. Does anyone know if a roms I've backed up with safestrap 1.07 will still be flashable in safestrap 3.11? I just really want to avoid bricking my phone because if I have to FXZ again I will loose root.
Thanks!
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Open the safestrap app select uninstall recovery, reboot phone. That should do the trick.
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1Stryker said:
This worked like a charm. My phone is currently on JB and rooted! Note, if it's not letting you get the OTA, just download it from somewhere else and place it in your SDCard. Then boot into stock recovery (volume up and down, select recovery, and hit volume up and down together again), then select update.zip and find your update.
Now I only have 1 more question...when I FXZ'd I forgot to uninstall safestrap from within the app. I believe this isn't a big deal since FXZ wipes everything. However, I am worried that this may cause issues when installing safestrap again.
Also, I only had safestrap 1.07 before I did this all. Does anyone know if a roms I've backed up with safestrap 1.07 will still be flashable in safestrap 3.11? I just really want to avoid bricking my phone because if I have to FXZ again I will loose root.
Thanks!
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Which method are you saying worked?
lemonoid said:
Which method are you saying worked?
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The post by herrsmoothe.
The short version:
Use "House of Bionic" (requires 3 large files on PC and USB cord) to update your GB to ICS (should not lose any data if you do it right)
Root
install Voodoo's Root Keeper
When ready, do the OTA JB update
Then swap the file back to keep the root (see the above instructions)
Voila, rooted JB OTA.
From Android Central: "Updates, patches, and bug fixes are included in version VS910ZVB."
I don't have enough posts yet to link, so replace the " [dot] ":
androidcentral [dot] com/lg-revolution-gets-bloat-removing-ota-update
I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
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I have remove clock work so I can get the update. Been so long since I connected my phone to my pc to this, I will have to start from scratch. Time to search for all the how to's in here.
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I'm rooted but without CWM (still have stock recovery). Can I simply defrost (freezing is all I've done) and get the update? Or do I have to do a hard reset to get back to full stock?
If hard reset to stock is required, any tips or techniques that you use to save time to get back to where you were? Thx.
Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
Haxcid said:
Well I am updated and while I notice that all the extra Verizon apps are gone here is what I see...
1. Kindle, bing, slacker, tunewiki, and Verizon tones are all still installed and no option to remove them.
2, After I installed a dozen apps of my own, I still have 1gig of app space available.
3. The phone is remarkable faster and smoother.
I am going to see if they fixed the Exchange email client issue I was having...
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Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel
mmp17 said:
Did you need to unroot? If yes how did you do it?
Thx
Mendel
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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Rooted should be ok, you may likely lose your root. It does not install with clockwork. I used lgnpst and imaged my phone, I then did a factory reset, felt like starting from scratch.
Verizon only removed a handful of apps. I am not sure it was worth the trouble. I have to root again so I can go back in and freeze or uninstall all the crap they left.
Id say in the de-bloat department they were a epic fail.
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I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel
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I tried to do the update and it fails. I unrooted and it still failed if it is not worth it I'll leave it as it is. let us know if this update can be rooted.
Thx
Mendel
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yeah I returned my phone to stock with the lg tool and tot file, then did a factory reset, updated, rooted again, used titanium back up to uninstall the rest of the bloat Verizon missed.
While I do not know if the update breaks root or not, you can use the root tool in the dev section (esteem root v2) to root your phone. It works like a charm.
So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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me too. I am running zv9 with root. And uninstalled lots of useless apps for me. I tried update, but failed.
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So was anything else updated? Trying to decide if it's worth my time to bother with. I am already running a zv9 that I seriously debloated and tweaked to where it's useable.
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It will rebloat your phone. While they did patch some things, my phone did actually run smoother. I did have to root it again and un-install all the bloat they left, vzw tones, navigator, city id, kindle, slacker, etc...
No better battery life and not much of a performance increase. Id wait if you are happy.
keeps trying to update
I was planning on rooting & putting BrokenOut ROM on my revo when my contract ended. Then this OTA update came out, and I was worried that it would prevent that. So, I rooted the phone and put CWM recovery on and did a backup. As expected, the OTA update failed.
But, it hasn't given up. It tries and tries, about once a day. I hear my phone chirp, and it has rebooted and drained the battery, and shows at various times either the "update failed" screen, or the "updating in 2 minutes" screen, or recovery. When I get prompted to run the update, I defer it - but the deferal time doesn't correspond to when the reboot happens.
It's possible that the rooting and recovery are behind the problem, and not the update - but I suspect the update has something to do with it.
So, what I'd like to know is:
1) if I get the update, can I still use ROM Manager to change the recovery back to CWM, and still be able to flash BO on it?
2) to get the update, is it safe to just use ROM Manager to put the stock recovery on it, then run the update? I haven't done any debloating or other rooty stuff not mentioned above. I'd rather not lose data by reset, tot, etc.
3) can I fix my problem without getting the update? Maybe one of the options on the "update failed" screen? I'm not sure if I've selected only "OK" or only "Cancel" so far - or what those are supposed to mean.
4) do the security updates make zvb better than BO? (Does anyone here no what the security updates are?)
Thanks...
Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Broken out is based off of V9, so unless there are updates to the radio, you will most likely over-write most, if not all, of the updates.
As posted earlier, someone has rooted and installed cwm. But, someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) I will try my best to update BO. Also, if someone can do a backup of the new update and post it up, (not the blob crap, the other one ) I'll rip the kernel and post a flashable zip. Maybe they did fix something. We will see.
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Yeah, I figured current BO would undo zvb, that's why I was wondering which I should go with. The update downloaded several times, but I don't see anything in /data/local/tmp. Don't know if the download failed or just didn't persist. It hasn't tried to update for the last 30 hours or so. I'm not eager to encourage it at the moment.
I see that haxcid re-rooted, but nothing about re-cwm-ing.
can't find update file(s)
I.M.famous XMAN said:
...someone wants to post up the update (you can rip it from the /data/local/tmp directory, iirc) ...
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I rebooted my phone, and once again it prompted me to install the update. I selected "defer" and then checked settings / about phone / software update / status which says "Package downloaded successfully".
However, /data/local/tmp is still an empty directory, according to ES File Explorer.
That's where the file was stored for v7, v8, and v9. Maybe they changed it for this update. IDK. I'll look into it. No worries. It's all good.
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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OrangeJoe said:
I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
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I think it gets downloaded to /cache/fota, but deleted once the process finishes failing. I will try to trigger it again and copy it before the phone reboots. I was not given the defer option this time.
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Ok, I got it, I think. It's called ipth_package.bin
For now, I'm going to skip trying to attach it, and just give the link from which it seems to download:
https : / / pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS910_ZV9_TO_ZVB.bin
~47 MB
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Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
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Is it weird that my phone never prompted me for the OTA? I am on BO 2.0.1 with ZV9
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Not really. I believe MT disabled the update feature from BO; hence the 'super fast' FC's at boot.
So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.
Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.
Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.
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No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.