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Getting rid of tmobile g2

Well I'm a little mad at my phone I'm going to a 3g only phone because on the tmobile map it shows 4g availible in my area and no 4g struggle for 3g half the time...now what phone should I get?
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dakkywantstodocrazysht said:
Well I'm a little mad at my phone I'm going to a 3g only phone because on the tmobile map it shows 4g availible in my area and no 4g struggle for 3g half the time...now what phone should I get?
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Maybe wait for the LG 2X as it's supposed to have bands for T-Mo AND AT&T.
(That might future proof you in case AT&T actually gets their way. And not to mention dual core )
Otherwise I say Nexus S

att merge is off lmao

http://m.t-mobilescoop.com/gameon?c.../nivnCjCm4mCjC-aaj4wyTwyjWwfcByLjGF5yBMwFwEfl

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http://m.t-mobilescoop.com/gameon?c.../nivnCjCm4mCjC-aaj4wyTwyjWwfcByLjGF5yBMwFwEfl
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I wonder what the investment is, more towers?
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How unfortunate
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this come out a few months back, was the only reason I switched to the Amaze when my mT4G died instead of going somewhere else.

Their investing in bringing LTE and the 1900 AWS band to the network, the 1900 band should be here by the end of the year, therefore encouraging iphone users and other 1900 band compatible devices, such as just about every international device out there and LTE, well that is pretty obvious why.

I logged in online yesterday and a pop up about this came up. So retarded.
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sportsstar89 said:
How unfortunate
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Why is it?

My fiance got a text from TMobile the other day about how the merger is off and they'll be upgrading their LTE. Funny they sent out texts, I never got one.
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eliasadrian said:
My fiance got a text from TMobile the other day about how the merger is off and they'll be upgrading their LTE. Funny they sent out texts, I never got one.
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I got one of those as well.

Dark Nightmare said:
I got one of those as well.
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Weird they didn't send it to everyone...silly TMobile.
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Does this mean better service for us? The LTE ? and more towers and signal?
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Im confused. They announced the merger was dead months ago. Why is this news now?

Been wondering the same.

ITALIANNYC said:
Im confused. They announced the merger was dead months ago. Why is this news now?
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Maybe some people didn't know. You know, the ones that don't listen to the news, read any newspapers, blogs, anything.. I know t-mobile subs use more data than every other carrier in the states but apparently its cause we're watching netflix and hulu on our smartphones. lmao

It's new because they're trying to reassure customers that they're working on getting they're service to it's peak, better signal, faster data speeds and also by implementing the 1900 band enabling customers who want the iPhone to be able to use it and get 3G/HSPA speeds with data, after all they lost a lot of customers when they slacked off during the merger period. They're trying to win those back and insure that they keep all others that are currently still with them.

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It's new because they're trying to reassure customers that they're working on getting they're service to it's peak, better signal, faster data speeds and also by implementing the 1900 band enabling customers who want the iPhone to be able to use it and get 3G/HSPA speeds with data, after all they lost a lot of customers when they slacked off during the merger period. They're trying to win those back and insure that they keep all others that are currently still with them.
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does enabling that band also improve service in areas where its crap? i only get 2g
(probably going to at&t soon with my amaze)

ziggy46 said:
does enabling that band also improve service in areas where its crap? i only get 2g
(probably going to at&t soon with my amaze)
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Na, think they're building new towers for that, adding LTE infrastructure to the current network as well, that new band is to enable other devices such as international and devices from networks like AT&T to work on their 3G/HSPA and soon LTE network, hence no more 2G only on iPhones anymore.

coupetastic-droid said:
Why is it?
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Better service, more phones all my friends have at&t and they have service everywhere even in school
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Dark Nightmare said:
I got one of those as well.
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i've received 2 of those lol

And this is new news? Strange....
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Today I Watched My Nexus 4 Get Genuinely Confused

So I'm on a road trip, and I brought my N4 (on T-Mobile USA) along for the ride. I decided to stay the night in Savannah, GA. After checking into my hotel, I took my phone out of my pocket and saw something I've never seen before. It was showing a data connection as "3G" rather than the usual "H" for HSPA or "E" for EDGE. I had to do a double take. Curious, I went to Settings-About Phone-Status and checked the network type. It was "UMTS:3". Obviously that means T-Mobile's network refarming has happened here and 1900 MHz UMTS is live.
Here's the thing, though. The radio keeps switching between "3G" and "H" every few seconds, seemingly unable to figure out which one it wants to hold onto. The phone is still usable but I still find it annoying. Of course, the vast majority of T-Mobile phones would never experience this since they hardly ever have support for 1900 MHz, but I'm curious if other N4 owners living in areas where T-Mobile has lit up 1900 MHz UMTS are having this issue as well? In the end, the phone may be usable, but the constant switching is playing hell on my OCD!!
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At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.

I Am Marino said:
At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.
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Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just came from Verizon of 12 years and a gs3. I'm on umts at my home in rural Atlanta ga. It does the same switching as you say. I just thought that was normal gsm behavior .... phone is idle then 3g is active. Phone queries the net (open browser etc...) and H kicks in.
On another note the H speeds here are almost equal to vzw lte, I'm impressed
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oldblue910 said:
Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?

My phone does this then pulls the h on demand I am in Detroit metro area. I still pull high download speeds and don't have a problem with the change over. Honestly until I read this post I thought this was normal. Do do a speed test see if it is slower or faster then your use to.
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I Am Marino said:
I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?
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No it hasn't, and hopefully it won't before there's a radio update to fix it (if they'd even bother fixing it)!
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I have had my N4 for only a couple months, but it has been doing that ever since I got it. I am in the Farmington, MO area too though. I thought it was just normal, as this is the first time I have had a decent phone and be on a plan rather than prepay.

Mine has always behaved like that. My nexus one and gnex too.
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Weird. mine had never done this except here in Savannah. Is anyone else here running stock?
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I'm on all stock and I've never seen the 3G label. I'm out here in Portland, OR, and SLC, UT. I just figured our phones were only capable of G, E, and H labels.
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I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.

I'm stock unrooted
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Mi|enko said:
I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.
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This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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oldblue910 said:
This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date

Mi|enko said:
GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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Yeah on the G2, the Froyo ROM showed H all the time, never 3G. For the Gingerbread ROM, though, it was changed to show 2G and 4G.
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I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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sandy-achar said:
I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date
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Could redact differently based on the carrier and/or cell tower. Here's a conversation from the Galaxy Nexus forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2138601
All in all though, this is pretty well known and documented.
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Note_2 said:
I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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Sounds like you're running an AOSP rom on your N2. 3G for UMTS, H for HSPA+, and 4G for the LTE. If you were on a stock TMo ROM, it'd be 4G for UMTS and HSPA+, then 4G LTE for LTE.
Important to note is that the status bar icons ate just that. . .icons. You could actually modify these to display whatever you wanted. If I wanted it to say 8G when on LTE, I'd just have to make a custom icon and bake it in. Doesn't mean I actually have an 8G network.
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thats normal behavior, it changes to H when there is data flow. it just depends on the area and the signal/coverage in the area. on a custom rom, i see it change from a H to a H+ all the time(when data is flowing). rarely, i see a 3G.

LTE -117 to -120dbm

Has there ever been a radio update to change this a little higher on any other phone? Dropping to 3G from LTE is killer.. I usually leave my phone in CDMA only in my home town area but I went to a launched area this passed week where the roll out is in the 90% complete zone and it still drops from 4G to 3G a lot..
Just wondering if a radio update has ever fixed an issue like this on any other devices in the past.
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There have been radio updates on the past on other phones that helped but thus far not for the ONE yet
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Yup, I think we r over 80% here in austin Texas and it happens to me all day long. My bud just got his T-Mobile One and he hits 20-25 mbps no matter where and when he does a speed test. I could kick myself in the ass for staying with sprint.
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sand1303 said:
Yup, I think we r over 80% here in austin Texas and it happens to me all day long. My bud just got his T-Mobile One and he hits 20-25 mbps no matter where and when he does a speed test. I could kick myself in the ass for staying with sprint.
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Was thinking about getting the one but after my evo lte was having lte issues and the one seems to have the same I passed . The one is a beautiful phone but dropping lte all the time was a deal breaker .
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parmend said:
Was thinking about getting the one but after my evo lte was having lte issues and the one seems to have the same I passed . The one is a beautiful phone but dropping lte all the time was a deal breaker .
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I don't think the phone is the problem buddy. I think it's a network issue. So unless u are planning on actually leaving sprint it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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I don't think it's a phone issue but my Note II holds LTE like a champ but damn I don't want to lug that thing around anymore after having the One for this long.. dbm levels are the same on the Note it just doesn't drop to 3G until the -130 range where as the One drops it around -117dbm... I'm holding out on a possible radio update before I do anything drastic like going back to the Note II.
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sand1303 said:
I don't think the phone is the problem buddy. I think it's a network issue. So unless u are planning on actually leaving sprint it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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If that's the case then my s4 would have those issues as well but it doesn't . not trying yo start a phone war but HTC or sprint need to get it right .
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It's network and phones that are the issue. First off, it shoildnt be that much of a problem to drop to 3g, as long as the data still works. Buut 3g is worthless usually with no throughput.
Then these HTC phones can't hold on (or wont) to lte for ****, for whatever reason. The iPhone 5, gs3, and 4 all held 4g, and when they dropped it, it quickly moved back up to 4g. This phone, on the other hand, will drop 4g, sit with NO data connection for a while, then connect to worthless 3g while still in a 4g blanketed area.
Then on the LTE topic...I've been waiting and waiting but this crap seems to get slower and slower as time passes. Plenty of times I will get less than 1mbps. Ive been waiting almost 2 years for them to get it together but it seems that it won't be happening. Back to tmobole (<10 mbps always) I go
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Well I keep telling myself I need to try a galaxy but the build of the HTC phones keep luring me in. Maybe with this phone being a more popular model because it is across different carriers unlike the Evo line the devs can find away to adjust the settings of the hardware. It is very annoying when my T-Mobile buddy constantly pulls 15-25 mbps on his speed tests and I look at mine and see 3g icon on top. I know there is lte out there we r 80% complete here
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Missing sprint phones about now.

The service is amazing over here at Verizon.. Data speeds are significantly better in every way.. Having LTE in the middle of a lake in Idaho is a plus.. But damn the locked bootloader and all the bs rootblocking updates. They put a huge setback on erytang.. Even with the $154,8658,000,000 bounty. Just thought I'd let you guys know I was thinking about ya
Flashaway my old friends.
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Kind of feel like this is a waste of a thread and space. Since it doesn't contribute to the community.
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I think it does add to the community. I'm sure there are lots of folks wondering if the grass is greener. Nice to have some real users of both services tell us the good AND bad.

jejb said:
I think it does add to the community. I'm sure there are lots of folks wondering if the grass is greener. Nice to have some real users of both services tell us the good AND bad.
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Yeah but all he said was Verizon has better signal and speeds which is. common knowledge to most of us. And that Verizon blocks bootloaders, while sprint doesn't.
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Nothing wrong with this. It's good to know the pros and cons.
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daniel4653 said:
Yeah but all he said was Verizon has better signal and speeds which is. common knowledge to most of us. And that Verizon blocks bootloaders, while sprint doesn't.
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I didn't realize Verizon blocked boot loaders, so good to know.

I'm happy with my data speeds and coverage on Sprint. 40-60mbs is nothing to laugh at. Not many places I find don't have LTE anymore. Fast updates and no locked anything is a huge plus. Spring will be seeing many more Verizon customers in the coming months. S4/Note 3/S5 all locked from here out will bring more over.
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eskomo said:
I'm happy with my data speeds and coverage on Sprint. 40-60mbs is nothing to laugh at. Not many places I find don't have LTE anymore. Fast updates and no locked anything is a huge plus. Spring will be seeing many more Verizon customers in the coming months. S4/Note 3/S5 all locked from here out will bring more over.
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Then you're lucky, because there are still TONS of places that don't have LTE, including major cities. I was in Denver a few weeks ago and still had to make do with 3G just like I do at home. Also, 40-60 mbs is unheard of, even on Verizon and AT&T. My home wifi isn't even that fast. If that figure is even remotely accurate, you're definitely a (very) rare exception rather than the rule.
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eskomo said:
I'm happy with my data speeds and coverage on Sprint. 40-60mbs is nothing to laugh at. Not many places I find don't have LTE anymore. Fast updates and no locked anything is a huge plus. Spring will be seeing many more Verizon customers in the coming months. S4/Note 3/S5 all locked from here out will bring more over.
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That HAS to be a typo....

Joe0113 said:
That HAS to be a typo....
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Either a typo or BS. If anyone is actually getting those kinds of speeds on ANY mobile network in the US (let alone Sprint), I'll eat my own face.
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maxpower7 said:
Either a typo or BS. If anyone is actually getting those kinds of speeds on ANY mobile network in the US (let alone Sprint), I'll eat my own face.
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My boss routinely pulls 40-45Mbps downloads on his Verizon GNEX at work (Cleveland, TN)

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My boss routinely pulls 40-45Mbps downloads on his Verizon GNEX at work (Cleveland, TN)
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As I pointed out earlier, that is very much the exception and not the rule. Also, you'll never get speeds like that on Sprint LTE.
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As I pointed out earlier, that is very much the exception and not the rule. Also, you'll never get speeds like that on Sprint LTE.
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You also said you would eat your face if anyone got those speeds on ANY network, let alone Sprint. I'm just saying it happens
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My boss routinely pulls 40-45Mbps downloads on his Verizon GNEX at work (Cleveland, TN)
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Maybe burst speed, but not steady speed.
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My wife has vzw note 2. Here in indiana we have equal lte coverage but vzw speeds is usually 3-4 down. My sprint phone always whips vzw here. Dont dog Sprint. I avg 10-20 down and hit 30-40 down alot. This is all from our single band only phones. The only edge vzw has is lte building Penetration. All will be solved with tri band lte devices.
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Idk OP, my service and bandwidth on Sprint's LTE is pretty solid, speaking as a recent convert from Verizon.
Ohh, I remember the good ol' days before Verizon lost their way. I was a Verizon customer during the release of the OG Motorola Droid, and that phone was like a development catalyst. I discovered xda thanks to that phone's development following. Everything I came to love about customizing kernels and roms came from that phone. ****, I remember what now seems like an ancient version of CyanogenMod for that OG Droid. I remember that phone out of the box was underclocked of all things, from 550Mhz down to 450 which made overclocking that thing to a meaty 1ish Ghz seem so beastly at the time lol!
Ahhhh good times :good:

Decent Sprint LTE speeds in College Park, MD
I get decent speeds (15-23 Mb down, 7-10 Mb up) on Sprint in College Park MD according to Speedtest.

Won't the speeds for the Sprint LTE towers drop for an individual once more people start utilizing it? I suspect some people are getting very high speeds because not a lot of Sprint users are tapping into the LTE bandwidth yet?

d-res said:
I remember that phone out of the box was underclocked of all things, from 550Mhz down to 450 which made overclocking that thing to a meaty 1ish Ghz seem so beastly at the time lol!
Ahhhh good times :good:
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Close - it was a 600 mhz CPU underclocked to 550 mhz. I remember there were kernels that could overclock the thing all the way to 1.3 ghz. I've still never used another phone that could be overclocked that far past the native clock speed (by percentage, at least). Good times.
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