Today I Watched My Nexus 4 Get Genuinely Confused - Nexus 4 General

So I'm on a road trip, and I brought my N4 (on T-Mobile USA) along for the ride. I decided to stay the night in Savannah, GA. After checking into my hotel, I took my phone out of my pocket and saw something I've never seen before. It was showing a data connection as "3G" rather than the usual "H" for HSPA or "E" for EDGE. I had to do a double take. Curious, I went to Settings-About Phone-Status and checked the network type. It was "UMTS:3". Obviously that means T-Mobile's network refarming has happened here and 1900 MHz UMTS is live.
Here's the thing, though. The radio keeps switching between "3G" and "H" every few seconds, seemingly unable to figure out which one it wants to hold onto. The phone is still usable but I still find it annoying. Of course, the vast majority of T-Mobile phones would never experience this since they hardly ever have support for 1900 MHz, but I'm curious if other N4 owners living in areas where T-Mobile has lit up 1900 MHz UMTS are having this issue as well? In the end, the phone may be usable, but the constant switching is playing hell on my OCD!!
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At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.

I Am Marino said:
At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.
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Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just came from Verizon of 12 years and a gs3. I'm on umts at my home in rural Atlanta ga. It does the same switching as you say. I just thought that was normal gsm behavior .... phone is idle then 3g is active. Phone queries the net (open browser etc...) and H kicks in.
On another note the H speeds here are almost equal to vzw lte, I'm impressed
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oldblue910 said:
Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?

My phone does this then pulls the h on demand I am in Detroit metro area. I still pull high download speeds and don't have a problem with the change over. Honestly until I read this post I thought this was normal. Do do a speed test see if it is slower or faster then your use to.
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I Am Marino said:
I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?
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No it hasn't, and hopefully it won't before there's a radio update to fix it (if they'd even bother fixing it)!
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I have had my N4 for only a couple months, but it has been doing that ever since I got it. I am in the Farmington, MO area too though. I thought it was just normal, as this is the first time I have had a decent phone and be on a plan rather than prepay.

Mine has always behaved like that. My nexus one and gnex too.
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Weird. mine had never done this except here in Savannah. Is anyone else here running stock?
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I'm on all stock and I've never seen the 3G label. I'm out here in Portland, OR, and SLC, UT. I just figured our phones were only capable of G, E, and H labels.
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I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.

I'm stock unrooted
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Mi|enko said:
I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.
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This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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oldblue910 said:
This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date

Mi|enko said:
GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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Yeah on the G2, the Froyo ROM showed H all the time, never 3G. For the Gingerbread ROM, though, it was changed to show 2G and 4G.
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I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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sandy-achar said:
I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date
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Could redact differently based on the carrier and/or cell tower. Here's a conversation from the Galaxy Nexus forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2138601
All in all though, this is pretty well known and documented.
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Note_2 said:
I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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Sounds like you're running an AOSP rom on your N2. 3G for UMTS, H for HSPA+, and 4G for the LTE. If you were on a stock TMo ROM, it'd be 4G for UMTS and HSPA+, then 4G LTE for LTE.
Important to note is that the status bar icons ate just that. . .icons. You could actually modify these to display whatever you wanted. If I wanted it to say 8G when on LTE, I'd just have to make a custom icon and bake it in. Doesn't mean I actually have an 8G network.
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thats normal behavior, it changes to H when there is data flow. it just depends on the area and the signal/coverage in the area. on a custom rom, i see it change from a H to a H+ all the time(when data is flowing). rarely, i see a 3G.

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Q: T-Mobile speedtest

Hello,
I am going to buy an international note.. what are its speeds for web browsing..
Speed test pics would be appreciated and videos
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anyone have speed test pics??
It would really help me out.. I don't know if I should spend 700 on the pink note. If I'm gonna have super crappy internet
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Well the speed for web browsing is really fast on HSDPA+ (The highest one that you can get here in europe)
Found a speedtest on a german android forum.
http://fs01.androidpit.info/userfiles/411957/image/galaxy note 749.png
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Remember, that's not the highest value. HSDPA+ can reach up to 21,1 Mbit/s here.
This was with an international note?
But idk if it be the same for T-Mobile since were on 1700mhz
If 9mbps was reached there.. hopefully here as well
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Bigv69er said:
This was with an international note?
But idk if it be the same for T-Mobile since were on 1700mhz
If 9mbps was reached there.. hopefully here as well
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Found this site:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ga...at-t-galaxy-note-which-one-do-you-prefer/5698
It says:
Cons of the GT-N7000:
No support for LTE in the USA
No support for T-Mobile 3G data
No NFC radio
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So there is no 3G data (and upper I assume) available with the International Note. Any reasons for not taking the AT&T Note SGH-I717 instead?
So what were those speeds lol.. I gotta see some speedtests of someone using it on tmobile
Idc I'd get the att one.. but too overpriced .. if ima pay a lot for the phone I'm going to buy what I really want. And that is the Pink Note
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Bigv69er said:
So what were those speeds lol.. I gotta see some speedtests of someone using it on tmobile
Idc I'd get the att one.. but too overpriced .. if ima pay a lot for the phone I'm going to buy what I really want. And that is the Pink Note
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The only video I found is that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXXpmMrxq4
But it actually shows the speed depending on his new radio.
All others were using AT&T on the Galaxy Note... Could even find a picture.
Also just read that you are able to use >3g, sorry for misleading informations.
lol so complicated as we don't have 4g here.
The video is an art note lol
I need international.. hahah. The pink note is international
Thanks though!
And what wait I'm confused 3g on what? International or att?
I know art can be flashed to work with tmobile
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The video is an art note lol
I need international.. hahah. The pink note is international
Thanks though!
And what wait I'm confused 3g on what? International or att?
I know art can be flashed to work with tmobile
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Oh really? Damn, thought it was the right one Well next time i only have to take a closer look.
Yes, you're right it can be flashed to work with tmobile.
Well the site that I've posted before says that international note doesn't support lte or tmobile 3g data. Only the AT&T (as said you have to enable tmobile data manually)
Yeah.. but no pink note lol
My search will continue lol
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I Found this..
no speedtest but the web browsing speed seems pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR8BrBM8nLo
So buy a pink case or those sticker covers and you can make it pink. I'd rather have a fully functional device than a colored device. That is only if you need the speed. if not pink it up! Where I live I only get 3G. Not hspa+, when I go downtown I get hspa+ so it's not worth it for me nor a deal breaker.
Salutations from Madrid!
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I use an n7000 on tmo stateside. Its only 2g so speeds are horrible... roughly 100 to 150kbps both up and down. This doesnt really matter to me however, as im in wifi 99% of the time. The 2g works fine for gps, email and mobile versions of websites. But forget about youtube, or full version website surfing. One thing i havent checked is pandora streaming... might work ok.
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I have the international note, and for the most part I get around 256k speeds at best. Depending on where you are located though they have repurposed their 1700 band into their latest hspa+, so if you happen to end up in one of those area data will be really fast. (sorry never ran a speed test with one of those connections) The problem is that is was mainly an experiment and they most likely won't continue not that they are moving to LTE, and the areas with this working are fairly rare.
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I have the international note, and for the most part I get around 256k speeds at best. Depending on where you are located though they have repurposed their 1700 band into their latest hspa+, so if you happen to end up in one of those area data will be really fast. (sorry never ran a speed test with one of those connections) The problem is that is was mainly an experiment and they most likely won't continue not that they are moving to LTE, and the areas with this working are fairly rare.
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Well tmo is currently experimenting with the new base and 1900 for 4g.. said to start releasing it this summer slowly.
If they do, these phones will get waaay better speed.
Thank you everybody.. and yeah I'm on wifi about 50% of the time.. and mostly on fb or sometimes YouTube when I'm not.
And no I don't want a vinyl. Or a case. Not the same thing. Plus I heard att one doesn't even get that great of speeds
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Bigv69er said:
Well tmo is currently experimenting with the new base and 1900 for 4g.. said to start releasing it this summer slowly.
If they do, these phones will get waaay better speed.
Thank you everybody.. and yeah I'm on wifi about 50% of the time.. and mostly on fb or sometimes YouTube when I'm not.
And no I don't want a vinyl. Or a case. Not the same thing. Plus I heard att one doesn't even get that great of speeds
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You'll get Edge on tmobile. Which is supposedly 635 kbps download
85 kbps upload.
You'll probably see around 100kbps up/down.
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You'll get Edge on tmobile. Which is supposedly 635 kbps download
85 kbps upload.
You'll probably see around 100kbps up/down.
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damn that's weak
Good thing I'm always near wifi like 60% of the time
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Post your Nexus 7 HSPA+ data speeds

Did not see a thread like this if there is already one forgive this new guy. Anyways, this is T-Mobile prepaid mobile broadband plan. I'm pretty happy with these speeds.
Nice! :beer:
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Sweet!
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I use an HSPA+ mifi but never see speeds likes yours, OP! I'm lucky to see 2mb down!
Did some driving around today, seems the speeds I posted are pretty limited to a small area here unfortunately. Most of the other places I tried were around 1 - 3 Mbps which is still better then what I get with Sprint (no 4g coverage here but I have to pay for it) just waiting until my contract is up to make the switch.
Figured id post a WiFi speed, its a lot higher then what I pay for but what the hell
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Triscuit said:
Figured id post a WiFi speed, its a lot higher then what I pay for but what the hell
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"Figured (I'd) post a WiFi speed (test) , it's a lot higher (than) what I pay for but what the hell(.)"
Sorry I'm bored. :beer:
My WiFi is not as good as yours, 10Mbps.
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Bell Canada, via PC Mobile MVNO.
Test Date: Nov 24, 2012 9:18:13 PM
Connection Type: Hspa
Server: Vancouver, BC
Download: 12415 kbps
Upload: 2643 kbps
Ping: 80 ms
http://www.speedtest.net/android/299912819.png
Just to add: Bell and Telus have a shared HSPA+ network that operates on both 850 and 1900. So unlike T-Mobile's, it has better in-building coverage and penetration. Same frequencies as AT&T but overall faster and less burdened. Lower burden due in part to the fact that there are very few customers with grandfathered unlimited plans of any kind - Canada saw its first iPhones launch with small data caps, while AT&T started with unlimited and only years later started to shrink the data allowance.
bump.. Anyone else? There's gotta be a lot more of us Nexus 7 3G owners out there by now.
att gave me horrible speeds, but tmobile gave me much better service. much happier now.
The employee at Tmo must have been unaware they had that plan, or else I might be using it. I should'a known tho because I thought I saw they had a tablet for sale! Anyway, I'm basically happy with 3gb for $30 with AT&T, but it's nice to have options.
does this device not have "H+" icon in the status and only shows "H"? I'm using the tablet plan on Telus in Canada and it only shows "H".
I have LTE signal when I plug in the sim card into my Nexus 5.
Any suggestions?
Amazing hspa+ speed on my nexus 4 .. Get same speed when I use it as hotspot on my nexus 7
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Can you tell me what version of rom you are using to get Wifi tethering and LTE to work? Thanks.
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LTE -117 to -120dbm

Has there ever been a radio update to change this a little higher on any other phone? Dropping to 3G from LTE is killer.. I usually leave my phone in CDMA only in my home town area but I went to a launched area this passed week where the roll out is in the 90% complete zone and it still drops from 4G to 3G a lot..
Just wondering if a radio update has ever fixed an issue like this on any other devices in the past.
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There have been radio updates on the past on other phones that helped but thus far not for the ONE yet
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Yup, I think we r over 80% here in austin Texas and it happens to me all day long. My bud just got his T-Mobile One and he hits 20-25 mbps no matter where and when he does a speed test. I could kick myself in the ass for staying with sprint.
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sand1303 said:
Yup, I think we r over 80% here in austin Texas and it happens to me all day long. My bud just got his T-Mobile One and he hits 20-25 mbps no matter where and when he does a speed test. I could kick myself in the ass for staying with sprint.
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Was thinking about getting the one but after my evo lte was having lte issues and the one seems to have the same I passed . The one is a beautiful phone but dropping lte all the time was a deal breaker .
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parmend said:
Was thinking about getting the one but after my evo lte was having lte issues and the one seems to have the same I passed . The one is a beautiful phone but dropping lte all the time was a deal breaker .
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I don't think the phone is the problem buddy. I think it's a network issue. So unless u are planning on actually leaving sprint it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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I don't think it's a phone issue but my Note II holds LTE like a champ but damn I don't want to lug that thing around anymore after having the One for this long.. dbm levels are the same on the Note it just doesn't drop to 3G until the -130 range where as the One drops it around -117dbm... I'm holding out on a possible radio update before I do anything drastic like going back to the Note II.
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sand1303 said:
I don't think the phone is the problem buddy. I think it's a network issue. So unless u are planning on actually leaving sprint it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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If that's the case then my s4 would have those issues as well but it doesn't . not trying yo start a phone war but HTC or sprint need to get it right .
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It's network and phones that are the issue. First off, it shoildnt be that much of a problem to drop to 3g, as long as the data still works. Buut 3g is worthless usually with no throughput.
Then these HTC phones can't hold on (or wont) to lte for ****, for whatever reason. The iPhone 5, gs3, and 4 all held 4g, and when they dropped it, it quickly moved back up to 4g. This phone, on the other hand, will drop 4g, sit with NO data connection for a while, then connect to worthless 3g while still in a 4g blanketed area.
Then on the LTE topic...I've been waiting and waiting but this crap seems to get slower and slower as time passes. Plenty of times I will get less than 1mbps. Ive been waiting almost 2 years for them to get it together but it seems that it won't be happening. Back to tmobole (<10 mbps always) I go
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Well I keep telling myself I need to try a galaxy but the build of the HTC phones keep luring me in. Maybe with this phone being a more popular model because it is across different carriers unlike the Evo line the devs can find away to adjust the settings of the hardware. It is very annoying when my T-Mobile buddy constantly pulls 15-25 mbps on his speed tests and I look at mine and see 3g icon on top. I know there is lte out there we r 80% complete here
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Verizon 4g lte on Sprint!?

I know this doesn't sound possible hell I Dont believe it myself but I am in LittleRock Arkansas where Sprint has NO 4g, I'm up here at work bored so I flash the 1000 Verizon prl, I unlock my SIM card (don't think that mattered , I didn't put a SIM card in). I forced roaming on my phone and I about had a heart attack when the 4g showed in my notification bar!! I thought it may be wrong but I ran some speed test with and without it. The catch is I lost voice. How is this possible?
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When u get it again go to the 4g settings it should tell u some info
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Highly doubt it... Verizon is operating LTE on 700 mhz (the latest article I saw was that in 2015 they will plan to shift some EVDO to LTE on 1900). The Sprint HTC One only supports LTE on 1900.
Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
The n.ispsn is something new also.
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numus said:
Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
4G Verizon Wireless 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz (Planned)
It is physically impossible for the Sprint HTC One to use Verizon LTE... The Sprint HTC One doesn't even have a radio chip for 700 mhz, let alone LTE on 800 mhz.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
Verizon currently operates its LTE network exclusively on Band 13 (in the 700MHz range), a band it controls nationwide.
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-device-support-aws-lte-approved-fcc/2013-01-03
Verizon has indicated it plans to use AWS spectrum to augment its existing LTE network, which runs on its 700 MHz spectrum.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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i have the same thing on my phone and my prl is 55015
you are connecting to sprint 4g
Come on man....yes ive tried it. I only get 3g when on Spring's PRL. It's also strange that I lost voice when forced roaming.
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Can you link me to that PRL? I'll give it a shot. Sprint has no 4G here so it will be a good test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Force roaming causing 4G detection isn't anything new, actually. If you put the device into LTE mode only, it achieves something similar. The device would much rather stay on Sprint service if at all possible and will take a weak LTE signal if it can (even if it would normally prefer a nearby Sprint tower providing 3G coverage).
The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
Eliminate what's impossible (by hardware) and we have a series of at least possible alternatives.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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Oh, *that* one. I used to use it all the time until it stopped giving me Verizon 3G. Now all I get with it is 1x. I would try it, but I'm running 4.3 now and don't want to nandroid back to a Sense ROM just to confirm that it's not working.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Sprint 4G on initial release in an area or an a tower is very wonky. It's off and on, slow and only works at a short range. Just be patient and you will get it really soon. They just activated it in a couple areas where I live also. They tend to put them near Sprint Corp stores.
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The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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Why is it unbelievable that Sprint is bringing 4g to Arkansas... They HAVE TO do the NV update on every single tower that broadcasts Sprint Signal. It is cheap as dirt to just add the LTE hardware into the NV station once the NV upgrade is completed. This is a nation wide requirement since they are about to do some wonky ass things on the 1900 MHz PCS bands (when they start to reallocate their allowed bandwidth to different techs, it is an across the board FCC license).
I'm from Arkansas too and have been keeping up with the 4G there because that's where I travel to every chance I get. Jonesboro has sprint lte and it's been planned for little rock and Fayetteville to get it for months. It was only a matter of which day. I'm surprised it took them this long. But it was expected. I'm so happy to hear this wonderful news
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I just wanted to point out the HTC one lte antenna isn't the best. Just today I've traded the htc one for S4 I now have LTE signal at home.
I traded my S4 for the One and get way better speeds on LTE and 3g on the one
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mxl180 said:
I just wanted to point out the HTC one lte antenna isn't the best. Just today I've traded the htc one for S4 I now have LTE signal at home.
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it all depends on your area
this isnt necessary
I get 31 up and 9 down in Boston ma
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pbedard said:
I get 31 up and 9 down in Boston ma
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31 up and 9 down eh? Damn that's a fast upload speed.
This pretty much mirrors my own observations. I don't think it's just the antenna either - if you toggle data, you can get 4G in a lot of places with marginal signal on the One. Once that drops down to 3G however, it will never go back to 4G in that area unless you toggle data again.
Enjoy your S4. I'm sticking it out with the One in the hopes that Sprint/HTC fix the radio so it holds on to 4G better.
HTC phones are notorious for having not so great radios. Not saying it's necessarily true, but each of you can be the judge of that.
The newest radio works perfect for me. Signal is strong and switch off between 3g wifi and lte are quick
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Sprint network doesn't seem to be all that good. On the sprint network it always seemed to drop 3g all together.
I also use my phone sprint HTC one in Kuwait with a different carrier and have had no problems with signal.
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flex360 said:
it all depends on your area
this isnt necessary
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I don't think thats true. To an extent, sure, but this phone is a lot like the EVO LTE. It has a hard time holding onto 4G and getting it to actually switch to 4G sometimes requires toggling airplane mode on and off.
Too bad the S4 sucks as a phone and has touchwhiz.
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First, the HTC One is made from aluminum which can disrupt signal. However, on my HTC One I have always gotten LTE when I was suppose to. Signal strength compared to my family's phones HTC Evo 3d, iPhone 5, Samsung Galaxy S3, and a HTC Evo 4g lte.
I went from htc one to note2. I seem to keep a better consistancy, but it isnt like a night and day
I tweaked my one setting to scan more so I was able to hold it more than stock. But it has improved. I do miss my htc one but still love my note2
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the radios. Just that HTC uses different values on the LTE settings. I was comparing my EVO LTE and Note 2 LTE values and I believe the EVOs values were higher. I'm sure that plays a role..
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I consistently have LTE where my GF's Note 2 is on 3g. She has yet to have LTE, where I'm stuck in 3g.
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I get 31 up and 9 down in Boston ma
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Wait, srsly? Where in Boston are you getting this, if you don't mind my asking? I live about 14mi north and I get crappy speeds
I get this all day long. Always full bars and sometimes drops one or two but always gets back to full. Rarely see 3g.
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At my work we have a very weak lte signal. Three of us have Sprint HTC ones, the rest has the s3, s4, and the Note II. The ones suck on weak lte signals. Constant drops, slower speeds, and according to the Signalcheck pro app, it's about ten dBm weaker. The note II is a beast on lte, and the s3 and s4 and much better as well.
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I went from an original Evo 4G to the 4G LTE. This was weeks before the LTE rollout and it sucked. However, after roll-out, it still sucked. My wife got an S3 and her speeds were great, but more importantly, she could get (and keep) the LTE signal everywhere, whereas my EvoLTE could NOT. I went to the S3, then the Note 2 and had great speed and signal everywhere. However Samsung decided it did not want to support Outlook 10 anymore so I am back to HTC. My first day (yesterday) I was back to the HTC radios which cannot get and hold LTE signals as well as Sumsung.
It just is what it is.
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HTC phones are notorious for having not so great radios. Not saying it's necessarily true, but each of you can be the judge of that.
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Samsung has a slightly worse track record.

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