I have a Samsung S phone.
I am running Cyanogen Mod-7.1.0-NS and Trinity Kernel 1.44Ghz OC version: [email protected]untu #4
The phone freezes at least once a day and the only way to get it back to life is to take out the battery.
Can someone tell me what is causing it and whether I should get a different kernel or ROM on this phone?
Is there a better Kernel to go with this ROM?
Please help!
you know what , i think it is due to the kernel cause as you said it is 1.44 Ghz while the default is 1000 only !!!!!!!!
Should I change the settings back to 1000 then?
OMG yes... why are you even using it overclocked? It's just slowly destroying your phone and drains your battery.
I also think that the freeze is due to excessive overclocking... I would suggest the default 1000 but if you really wanna overclock.. take it to max 1200 .. and if you really wanna overclock to 1400 then do some undervolting too
the oc will only gives you better shoes in bench mark your phone can run very smoothly with oc also.
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You really shouldn't be overclocking if you haven't done your research and understood what you are doing and its consequences.there is loads of information out there, search. Ask yourself this....will I be upset if I fry my phone?
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I think you should move to another rom and overclock to maximum 1200 if you desperatly want to overclock, but to be onest...it doesn't help you at all
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...maybe I should change the kernel version...I'm using pershoots kernel 2.6.35....
So you're clocking a CPU that comes out of the box clocked at 328 MHz (spec max 528) to over 700 and you're surprised that it is doesn't work right? Spend a little bit of time thinking this through some more, then come back when you've figured it out.
Change the kernel and reset setcpu best stable i ever get is 595
710... Do you really need it that fast?
1) It's not going to be usable
2) You are going to experience a lot of crashing, and it does opposite from what you expect (making system faster)
3) It will drain battery very very quick
4) no noticeable performance gain above 595/614 mhz anyways
5) You risk ruining your motherboard.
Don't overclock your motherboard that much.. it's not cool (literally!)
I think I'll just flashed a new kernel like ezterry....cuz the ROM I'm using is fron laszlo.....I think this is the fastest rom I've ever tested though on g1.....:3
If your gonna clock the g1 that high, make sure you have a kernel that supports it in the first place.
I would advise against setting the clock to 710 unless you just want to experiment with it. The best performance I get is with 595/122.
Hi!
I've struggled with my Incredible S for a long while now. Asked questions here and so on but haven't really got any answers.
Things went something like this: My mate rooted his and my IncS same time with Revolutionary. We both installed ARHD and overcloked to 1920mhz just for the lulz. Everything went just fine for a while for both of us, but then I decided to restore my apps sms etc from the stock rom with MyBackup (or what ever its called). Restore failed at some point and I needed to flash ARHD again.
Ever since my CPU hasn't been able to reach 1920mhz or anywhere close ever again. I've been flashing dozens for ROMs now and only few of them could be O/C to 1600mhz. Some freeze at 1152mhz instantly, others can be stable for few minutes and then crash.
My mate is running CM7 with enki-v0 kernel at max O/C without any problem. I tried CM7. It started to become unstable with default O/C after few days and I had to siwtch back to some Sense Rom that worked at normal O/C.
Why some kernels (forexmpl Quattro beta 6) allow me to O/C at 1.6Ghz and others freeze just at 1.1Ghz? (Affinity,Unity,Niks trinity, Quattro betas 7- Rc3)
And why my CPU can't reach the 1.9Ghz anymore? Could I **** something up and the CPU is broken now or is there something wrong with my rooting?
TL;DR Only few Roms and kernels allow O/C and with them its a pain in the ass cuz of unstability, why?
- And I'm not looking for solutions like "Flash to stock". I know how to get it stable, but then again 1Ghz stock ain't that cool.
How are you overclocking? I've never used CM7 before, but I do use SetCPU. Every time you flash a ROM you need to go into SetCPU and Device Selection and then Autodetect Speeds Recommended. Either that or you can try selecting Show Other Frequency Sets and pick your processor from there.
Basically the only thing I can think of is that your processor is not being recognised correctly.
BTW When you say "Everything went just fine for a while" how long is a 'while'? The only reason I ask is, how sure are you that running your processor smoothly at 1920mhz for that period wasn't just a fluke, and your phone (for whatever reason) cannot normally run at that speed? From what I understand, even phones of the same model can differ as to the speeds at which they can be overclocked. Maybe you just got lucky the first time, and now that lucks run out?
Dont you think that 1.9 ghz is a bit dumb... You might (have) damage(d) your cpu by doing that. If i would oc my 3ghz pc to 5ghz without cooling modification i would fry it in half an hour.
I mean cmmon use your brain. Oc it to smth logical like 30% (1.3 ghz) and you will not have such problems .... Sorry, but that just sounded plain stupid to me
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CyanideJack said:
How are you overclocking? I've never used CM7 before, but I do use SetCPU. Every time you flash a ROM you need to go into SetCPU and Device Selection and then Autodetect Speeds Recommended. Either that or you can try selecting Show Other Frequency Sets and pick your processor from there.
Basically the only thing I can think of is that your processor is not being recognised correctly.
BTW When you say "Everything went just fine for a while" how long is a 'while'? The only reason I ask is, how sure are you that running your processor smoothly at 1920mhz for that period wasn't just a fluke, and your phone (for whatever reason) cannot normally run at that speed? From what I understand, even phones of the same model can differ as to the speeds at which they can be overclocked. Maybe you just got lucky the first time, and now that lucks run out?
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I use SetCpu and every time it recognizes automaticly some speeds and I use them. The manual setup is bit beyond my knowledge.
The while was something like 3 days or so. Hard to remember. But still wayy more than like few minutes. I will try to set SetCPU manually, thx!
Psyloid said:
Dont you think that 1.9 ghz is a bit dumb... You might (have) damage(d) your cpu by doing that. If i would oc my 3ghz pc to 5ghz without cooling modification i would fry it in half an hour.
I mean cmmon use your brain. Oc it to smth logical like 30% (1.3 ghz) and you will not have such problems .... Sorry, but that just sounded plain stupid to me
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I know 1.9ghz is dumb. I used it back then only in short bursts. Usually scaling "interactive" between 245mhz - 1.5Ghz. Now even that is too much for most kernels. I thought that the freeze is caused by the CPU protecting itself from getting damaged or something, but not sure.
Still if the CPU was damaged, why would Quattro beta 6 kernel run at 1.6ghz without overheat or anything and RC3 kernel freezes at 1.1Ghz when try to load something more than homescreen..
I would use beta 6 kernel for quattro, but it does not support wifi in RC3.. Virtuous team made some changes to kernel at beta 7 and I would love to know what changes..
inSaN1Ty_X said:
I use SetCpu and every time it recognizes automaticly some speeds and I use them. The manual setup is bit beyond my knowledge.
The while was something like 3 days or so. Hard to remember. But still wayy more than like few minutes. I will try to set SetCPU manually, thx!
I know 1.9ghz is dumb. I used it back then only in short bursts. Usually scaling "interactive" between 245mhz - 1.5Ghz. Now even that is too much for most kernels. I thought that the freeze is caused by the CPU protecting itself from getting damaged or something, but not sure.
Still if the CPU was damaged, why would Quattro beta 6 kernel run at 1.6ghz without overheat or anything and RC3 kernel freezes at 1.1Ghz when try to load something more than homescreen..
I would use beta 6 kernel for quattro, but it does not support wifi in RC3.. Virtuous team made some changes to kernel at beta 7 and I would love to know what changes..
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have a look at the changelog and the source code, both in the thread.
Nonverbose said:
have a look at the changelog and the source code, both in the thread.
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From the source code I don't understand a single thing
and...
"New kernel V5 (new acpu table, updated GPU drivers)"
What is acpu table? GPU thing I get, but hardly it can prevent from O/C?
When I overclock my phone beyond 800mhz, it hangs and restarts. Somebody has Solution?
its because our mini is not stable over 800 mhz
and please don't try to do it again because your phone will become hot and the hardware may get damaged
Sanket8 said:
its because our mini is not stable over 800 mhz
and please don't try to do it again because your phone will become hot and the hardware may get damaged
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Agree with you bro.. Not all Minis can handle 800 MHz and above.. Mine is only stable at 787 Mhz.. So that panic when you can't OC your Mini to 800 Mhz..
i saw some guy overclockin @ 864 @ benchmark screenshot thread. thats y got curious
Can you tell me how to overclock with stock rom 2.3.6 on galaxy mini. I have root acess. Thanx in advence
Do you really have to overclock your phone that high? Better not take the risk
bro, or if you still want to do it, be sure to take off the back cover
of your phone and face it on something that will somehow cool it down,
like efan or something like that, cause overclocking your
phone that high uses more battery and temperature goes high like hell, havent use rc5.2 thoughbut i have tried overclocking that high before with other builds.
oh, it is risky to everclock for the sake of your hardware.
Not every phone is equal.
I don't know if you read it, but squad baked his phone due to overclocking.
So please don't say there could nothing happen to the phones.
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Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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ctcx said:
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
ctcx said:
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably
[Guys need help, my freind say's]
if you push your hardware beyond its stock speed one day it will go nuts and will break so never push it until you don't know anything about it. It will really get any hardware issue???? i m on harsh jelly,cocore kernel 8.8 and using 2.222GHZ kernel feature plzz tell?????
archies20 said:
[Guys need help, my freind say's]
if you push your hardware beyond its stock speed one day it will go nuts and will break so never push it until you don't know anything about it. It will really get any hardware issue???? i m on harsh jelly,cocore kernel 8.8 and using 2.222GHZ kernel feature plzz tell?????
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Well.. he said right.. don't overclock too much. You can but it reduces the life of the phone hardware (from what I've seen ). You can overclock when you need it during gaming and then underclock after it.
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archies20 said:
[Guys need help, my freind say's]
if you push your hardware beyond its stock speed one day it will go nuts and will break so never push it until you don't know anything about it. It will really get any hardware issue???? i m on harsh jelly,cocore kernel 8.8 and using 2.222GHZ kernel feature plzz tell?????
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And it is not 2.222GHz, it is 1.2 GHz. 2.2GHz will burin your phone... But I think you can get those values anyway.
AFAIK, there is no significant effect of overclocking on the CPU.
My previous device has 600mhz CPU and I overclocked it to 824mhz and used it for 2 years without any problem(it got stolen after that..?)
Also the capacity to which your cpu can be over clocked varies from device to device.
Again taking my previous device as an example.
For some people, it was stable at 824mhz but some people got many random reboots if they increased the frequency above 729mhz.
So basically we all have to find that frequency above which the phone starts rebooting (it may vary from person to person) by proper testing.
We shouldn't really bug cocafe for these reboots.
Tl;dr: the maximum overclock frequency at which we have no reboots varies from device to device.
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dagger said:
AFAIK, there is no significant effect of overclocking on the CPU.
My previous device has 600mhz CPU and I overclocked it to 824mhz and used it for 2 years without any problem(it got stolen after that..?)
Also the capacity to which your cpu can be over clocked varies from device to device.
Again taking my previous device as an example.
For some people, it was stable at 824mhz but some people got many random reboots if they increased the frequency above 729mhz.
So basically we all have to find that frequency above which the phone starts rebooting (it may vary from person to person) by proper testing.
We shouldn't really bug cocafe for these reboots.
Tl;dr: the maximum overclock frequency at which we have no reboots varies from device to device.
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Exacly, I forgot about that. For example my PC CPU can overclock to 3GHz at stock voltage. For 3.1GHz I need to pump it up and it heats alot more... So there is some wall. I am sure that is the case for phone CPU too, some can be OC-ed to some point, some can't.
It has been said that OC reduces life of CPU, but I keep my PC CPU overclocked since I bought it - 4-5 years ago. It is still alive. And now it cost like >10 beers in cafe.
archies20 said:
ohkkk
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Cheers mate,
I think if there is someone give some usefull info to you, its not enough by saying thanks, but give them credit by click "thanks".