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I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
AmandeepG said:
I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
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Depends on your Captivate. In general, it's a bad idea to flash back to stock unless absolutely necessary. Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode. You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
Also, wrong forum. This belongs in Q&A.
GGXtreme said:
Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates.
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Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
GGXtreme said:
You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
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"Hold down both volume buttons and while holding them down plug the phone in." works for me
I have bricked my phone to the point of needing a jig 3 times now all because of odin. But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
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kschumake83 said:
But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
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Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
existz said:
Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
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But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
nbs11 said:
Here is the rule of thumb: if it does not specifically say anything about being able to not use ODIN in the original thread for the ROM you MUST you ODIN.
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AmandeepG said:
But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
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Sometimes personal habit becomes the correct way to do something. For instance one teacher teaching how to count with pictures of apples and the other using oranges.
GGXtreme said:
Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode.
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
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Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
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you can buy jigs online people sell for 20$ or so...but it's actually very simple to make and so cheap as well so buying one is slightly pointless. also, i have flashed too many roms i've lost track, my phone shutdown in the middle of an odin, etc etc, and i always manage to get out of it so i wouldn't be concerned. having 3button enabled helps tho
AmandeepG said:
Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
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I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time. I needed the jig yesterday for the first time. From what I understand, the jig method is almost a guarantee fir download mode, making the captivate nearly unbrickable. Can it be bricked... I am sure it can, but you are part of a community full of resources to keep you from doing so. You trepidation is not unique... I too was slow to flash my captivate. Now that I have, I have a phone that I love. I have been able to contribute to the community. And... I have a new found addiction.
Hi. My username is NunHugger and I am a flashaholic.
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I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time.
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You are completely right there!
I think I'll hold off doing my first flash until I can go out and get the parts for the jig, make and test it, so I can be sure nothing bad will happen
zelendel said:
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Same here...corrupted data is corrupted data..and will cause problems...no matter how it gets loaded ...I've have been using Odin since I came to the Captivate..and is the only way I have been able to actually enjoy a new rom..A new rom...a fresh install..less problems for me.
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A question about download mode:
I want to test if my captivate can get into download mode by the 3-button combo. However, I don't have any zips to update or anything to download or anything like that.
How do I enter download mode and then exit without making any modifications?
I thought I could just power the phone off, but in big letters it says "Do not power off target" (in videos I've watched).
AmandeepG said:
Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
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Accepted, yes.
Stupiud, yes.
You don't need anything to flash to get into DL mode
Just follow the instructions as it says and if it comes up you can just reboot the phone. Although you have to pull the battery. Although I've heard that holding just the Vol Up and Power for 10 secs also works. I've never tried it though
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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Depends on a lot of factors. It could be that your Captivate doesn't support flashing back to earlier than JH2 (JF6 one-click will brick), that your Captivate is already missing button combos (requires C3P0LOL's fixed Odin or AT&T's OTA JH7 update), a bad USB cable, problems with Windows, using the wrong USB port, etc. (all on top of user error). Lagfix won't affect Odin flashes.
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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I wouldn't say they are random. They are probably mostly caused by user error or some fault in the USB chain (port, cable, driver interactions). Whatever the root cause, from what I can see almost all bricks/semibricks are the result of using odin (I include cases such as where a cwm flash results in a boot loop and the user can recover because he used one-click and has no button combos).
Recently, I had a very long discussion with some helpful users regarding how my market disappeared in the Android Themes section. After never recovering my stock market application, I finally just flashed to the cognition rom that is built for 2.1.
This was a huge risk for me because for some reason my phone is not found in Odin when it is in download mode. I have already tried everything to get it recognized, but nothing was able to get it recognized. If I were to brick my phone, I don't think I could fix it. I soft bricked it during the problem with the Market, but luckily I was able to get the phone working again through recovery.
I am thinking of flashing to the new cognition so that I can get my phone running on a 2.2 based rom and then quit flashing until I get a better phone or figure out my Odin problems.
I just have a few questions. I know a lot of people recommend flashing to stock first (which I can't do), while others don't flash stock. I should be able to just disable Voodoo and hopefully flash successfully to a new rom, correct? Also, what are the chances of a permanent brick? As long as I could get into recovery I could probably get the phone back up again without the use of Odin, right?
yentlequible said:
Recently, I had a very long discussion with some helpful users regarding how my market disappeared in the Android Themes section. After never recovering my stock market application, I finally just flashed to the cognition rom that is built for 2.1.
This was a huge risk for me because for some reason my phone is not found in Odin when it is in download mode. I have already tried everything to get it recognized, but nothing was able to get it recognized. If I were to brick my phone, I don't think I could fix it. I soft bricked it during the problem with the Market, but luckily I was able to get the phone working again through recovery.
I am thinking of flashing to the new cognition so that I can get my phone running on a 2.2 based rom and then quit flashing until I get a better phone or figure out my Odin problems.
I just have a few questions. I know a lot of people recommend flashing to stock first (which I can't do), while others don't flash stock. I should be able to just disable Voodoo and hopefully flash successfully to a new rom, correct? Also, what are the chances of a permanent brick? As long as I could get into recovery I could probably get the phone back up again without the use of Odin, right?
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<<< this might not be helpful, but I will tell you my situation... >>>
I have tried to Rom my JI6 (unoffical froyo) version of captivate, with Cog v2.3b8, using ROM manager.
But after installation, my screen went blank and the battery started to heat up...
After that I was lazy to fix it myself, so I went to exchange shop, and changed it...
- if your phone bricks (forever) try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775911
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<<< this might not be helpful, but I will tell you my situation... >>>
I have tried to Rom my JI6 (unoffical froyo) version of captivate, with Cog v2.3b8, using ROM manager.
But after installation, my screen went blank and the battery started to heat up...
After that I was lazy to fix it myself, so I went to exchange shop, and changed it...
- if your phone bricks (forever) try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775911
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I tried that same method and it still did not show up in odin.
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yentlequible said:
I tried that same method and it still did not show up in odin.
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Main problem with your Captivate is that you cannot connect to your PC???
Did you tried using different computer, or using different version of Windows/Mac?
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peurocs4 said:
Main problem with your Captivate is that you cannot connect to your PC???
Did you tried using different computer, or using different version of Windows/Mac?
<Sorry, if I'm not really helping you...>
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Back when I was really trying to figure the problem out (about 2 months ago), I was trying everything mentioned. I tried different versions of odin, 3 separate computers, windows xp/vista/7, front and back usb ports, multiple drivers, etc... The weird thing is that the phone is recognized in odin when it is on, which is how I was able to do a master clear on it. It is just when it is in download mode that it does not recognize it.
I eventually just gave up thinking that it was just a problem my phone has. The only thing I have not been able to test is using a different cable. I have been using the original OEM one, but I guess it could be the problem.
When did you bought the device?
if its within a year... you can exchange it... this looks like easy way out.
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peurocs4 said:
When did you bought the device?
if its within a year... you can exchange it... this looks like easy way out.
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Unfortunately, It was purchased off contract and used from someone who lived near me. It is less than a year old, I just don't have the receipt for it. I would say that I bought it around the beginning of last August. They guy who sold it said he only used it for 2 weeks.
Ok, im just going to risk it... Phone should be flashed within the next 10 minutes or so.
yentlequible said:
Ok, im just going to risk it... Phone should be flashed within the next 10 minutes or so.
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I had the same prob at first and what i found is that I had to remove the drivers and then let windows 7 reinstall the drivers on its own again after turning debugging on, then used Odin to activate DL mode and let those drivers install as well
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I had the same prob at first and what i found is that I had to remove the drivers and then let windows 7 reinstall the drivers on its own again after turning debugging on, then used Odin to activate DL mode and let those drivers install as well
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How do you use Odin to activate DL mode? I was unaware that it could do that...
I know I should probably put this on the development portion but I can't post there cause this is my first post lol. I'm wondering is it normal for the screen to flash when pressing the Home button?
keitaroguy said:
I know I should probably put this on the development portion but I can't post there cause this is my first post lol. I'm wondering is it normal for the screen to flash when pressing the Home button?
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Ran into the same limitation when I softbricked during my first attempt to update a kernel [talon] as required prior to the update to v5r3.
Had to look here and comment if ever I am to be up to asking anything in the dev forum. ...but then perhaps my soft brick question is best addressed here, aside from the fact that I still have the issue..
p1gnone said:
Ran into the same limitation when I softbricked during my first attempt to update a kernel [talon] as required prior to the update to v5r3.
Had to look here and comment if ever I am to be up to asking anything in the dev forum. ...but then perhaps my soft brick question is best addressed here, aside from the fact that I still have the issue..
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Odin back to stock and start all over again. Make sure u fallow all the directions.
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it has more feeling that everytime i hit the home key its reloading the home screen. instead of before where it would do nothing. I'm using touchwiz 4 maybe it is because of that?
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Odin back to stock and start all over again. Make sure u fallow all the directions.
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Indeed that is the understood objective, but getting into download mode is the impediment. I have tried a number of the advised buttons/odin/usb/battery sequences, each of them many times. All yielding only a return of the soft brick image. So now I am waiting for arrival of a shipped jig from MobileTechVideos..Still hopeful.
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Indeed that is the understood objective, but getting into download mode is the impediment. I have tried a number of the advised buttons/odin/usb/battery sequences, each of them many times. All yielding only a return of the soft brick image. So now I am waiting for arrival of a shipped jig from MobileTechVideos..Still hopeful.
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you might see that image if there is a problem with the location for the image for download mode. i spoke t one member that said they had the phone+computer image but odin saw the phone so they hit start and the download image poped up halfway through
i have also successfully flashed with odin with a completely black screen. phone looked like it was off but was really in download mode.
My phone is bricked by ROM manager. My phone can't boot into recovery mode, downloading mode nor normal phone. The phone charges the battery so there is still hope to fix it. I also have a JIG Usb just incase. if you got any questions you need to ask, please ask. I really want my phone back.
Darth343 said:
I also have a JIG Usb
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see this video
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
domcale said:
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
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Sorry! Just a thought came to my mind can it b there any solution for this evergreen problem? Like newbies r bricking their phone again & again. ( like warning in stickies) . Just thinking! !! That's all.....
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You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
lol ... ROM Manager is screwing up everyones phone. Even my friend's mini bricked. He was unlucky that his warranty had got over. He asked the samsung service center and they told him that it would cost $90 for a new motherboard. He uses his galaxy mini as a paper weight now. Rather buy a new phone than buy a motherboard for $90.
If your phone is under warranty, you can get your phone fixed for free in samsung service center( free new motherboard ). Even I bricked my phone when I was a noob with ROM Manager thankfully my warranty was valid that time.
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
domcale said:
You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
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One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
TheWhisp said:
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
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You were lucky, I guess
anshul sood said:
One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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Most new users don't browse the stickies, just notice the large no. of redundant and useless threads. They just open the thread pertaining to the rom they want and that's that. It would be nice if each Rom had either the rom manager removed or a warning with the download link itself
never say to anyone that rom manager's brick cannot be recovered in home, it can be
the only step is just press volume down home power button but without panicking, panicking is the main reason of can't able to get into download mode
then just flash with odin, dont think it cannot get into dl mode, dl mode is controlled by bootloader and bootloader is not removed by rom manager
Unsuccesfull flash of bootloader hard-bricks our device, so you can't enter DL mode.
You can always give it a shot with a USB JIG* tho. But in most cases, the only thing that helps is JTAG.
*USB JIG - a 301k resistor between the 4th and 5th pin on the microUSB connector.
Tried that.
I've seen that video like about a thousand times. No luck i even went to a repair men today, he said your phone is dead if it can't go in to recovery menu. Is there any other way i can repair my phone? Sorry for late VERY reply
Yes, either use JTAG or send it to the service center.
Brick caused by rom manager is absolute
Nothing can be done
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Me to I used it for making backups, but currently, I'm using cm 10 without ROM Manager.
Same problem with me the board was not responding so Samsung service centre changed my board.
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If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
Darth343 said:
If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
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Sorry you had to learn it the hard way. When you're new in this world it's easy to 'trust' all CM standard apps. Nevertheless: using CM means you're a root user. Your phone is rooted which means you can seriously damage your phone when you don't know what youre doing. That's exactly the reason why your phone is NOT rooted when you buy it, and your garantee is void when you root it yourself!
Some of these apps provide a warning: with great power comes great responsability!
Nevertheless: the first thing i do when i buy a new Android is rooting it! But a general warning is at place: root apps can damage your phone. Especially those to install roms. Even with a proper CWM you can flash a wrong or faulty Rom. The risk of bricking your phone is always there.
So think twice when you buy a new phone and read all about flashing on XDA!
Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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DeadSp1d3r said:
Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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+10000000 it's so easy
Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?
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Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?
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if you use rom manager samsung will not find out anything
if you flash other devices rom like acei on ace then it might brick but not for 100% sure but there is lots and lots of change that it will brick since it uses other flash scripts and binarys
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Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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Just download a galaxy s3 ROM and kernel...bricked right there.
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Ok Just tried to load up the firmware file for a Ace Plus on odin 4.38 but it wont accept it and comes back with "out of memory" error on the PC screen. Will try Rom Manager.
Bingo! Bricked it. I take it there's no way that I can attempt to revive it? Also I hope there is no traces of CWM Rom Manager, Superuser or Busybox
I don't know about the traces. But the only way to revive it is JTAG or replacement motherboard.
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Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..
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Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..
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Or rename a text file to boot.img and flash it as a ROM. This gives a totally faulty ROM.
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.
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Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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Best way to hardbrick your phone is to use rom manager
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post
athe_s said:
Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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I do. That's the good thing about having a screen-name
Updates!!!
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated.
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Any updates dude?
Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.
This is nice.... You can brick your phone in the last month of you year warranty and get a new phone/motherboard
Once my friends phone switched off suddenly... Non rooted stock
It happened suddenly and also out of warranty
She had to pay 5k to the Samsung people to get it repaired... And the plus point she got 14GB internal memory with the new motherboard
Her phone was the Samsung galaxy S i9000
it would've been done in free if she had warranty
So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck
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Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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ohh !!!! so easy !!! install rom manager... 100% sure samsung won't find out what went worng with your ace ...
ysrini said:
Any updates dude?
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Yes, the phone was repaired. They apparently replaced the motherboard.
an0nym0us_ said:
Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.
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I would have done it quietly if I didn't need the help. Duh! Besides, I doubt this is the reason why they don't honour warranty. I think it is more to do with that they are greedy corporate companies who would rather save at any cost irrespective of whose fault it is. I mean why should they penalise someone because of something someone else done? After all you are all paying customers. They scam people everyday and no one complains. I guess people only complain when it happens to them. You can buy a new phone and have it go faulty within 2 months. Do you think you can get a new phone under warranty from them? No it will be a refurbished one and doesn't mater how much you scream and shout for a new one, they don't care. A neither do I.
jumbobombo said:
So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck
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No, I think it is the same motherboard. What I don't understand is, whether it is the same motherboard they repaired or a replacement one, as this phone was initially locked to the Three network. I had it unlocked. So a new motherboard would have meant that the phone would be locked again. But when I received it back, it would still accept any sims.