There is a lot of talk about fried chip sets and dead phones with the note, is that when flashing or is it for rooting as well?
I would love to root as a few apps I want requires superuser privileges, but I want to make sure that I don't kill brick my phone in the process..
the BIGGEST issue is doing a factory reset on a STOCK ICS KERNEL
flash a safe kernel, and you will be fine !
Ok. But if I only need root access, could I not just refrain from doing a factory reset?
Is the problem really that with root access doing a factory reset in 4.0.3 can killbrick the phone?
krankdroid said:
Ok. But if I only need root access, could I not just refrain from doing a factory reset?
Is the problem really that with root access doing a factory reset in 4.0.3 can killbrick the phone?
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In order to root the phone you can do it by several methods. The best method i would reccomend you is to flash a rooted kernel which is safe like the speedmod kernel n7000. The kernel will give you root as well remove the probability of you bricking the phone. It is also a very stable kernel.
Ok. But just so I am sure about this. If i root my phone and down flash another kernel. I cannot do a factory reset on my phone without it going brick?
So far i have not rooted, and I have not yet tried to do a factory reset since my ICS update a week ago. How about factory reset on stock non rooted? Would that kill the chop set?
I just don't see how rooting should make the difference between brick or no brick. If that is all I am doing
rooting does not cause the brick, Doing a factory reset / full wipe ON A STOCK ICS KERNEL causes the brick
If you flash a safe kernel such as abyss or speedmod, you can do a factory reset as much as you like !
I've tried 6-7 different roms, some were tweaked ICS roms and a few were CM9 based. I always flash Abyss kernel 4.2 and then wipe in recovery without any issues. If you go beyond root and decide to start flashing everything under the sun, it helps to have a gingerbread rom backed up that you can flash as a clean and safe starting point. Just read, search and ask as many questions as you need and you'll be fine. Its been said many many times but never perform any wipe without a safe kernel installed, that means wipes from recovery or inside the phones normal menu system. Once you adapt to it, the Note is just like any other Android device and really quite easy to tweak and play with.
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rooting does not cause the brick, Doing a factory reset / full wipe ON A STOCK ICS KERNEL causes the brick
If you flash a safe kernel such as abyss or speedmod, you can do a factory reset as much as you like !
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@azzledazzle Can I just double check? I'm on GB. If I flash ICS, is the consensus recommending a flash of the stock, with a Speedmod kernel afterward using ODIN? Does this setup allow you to do something like a nandroid backup, i.e. do any of the modded kernals install CWM?
yes, use ODIN to flash ICS, One completed, let the phone boot, Then go back to download mode and flash speedmod, or some other safe kernel.
Speedmod will inject CWM and root into the device, So there you can make nandroids and upgrade to a different ICS Custom ROM
Would another way to do it be to follow the dr. K guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18978158&postcount=1
And then get the franco kernel from play store?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mcmFuY28ua2VybmVsLm5vdGUiXQ..
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Sorry for a noob question, i tried typing in a few search terms but cant find a clear answer.
Basically im new to this, and im trying to get root, and then backup everything before flashing a rom.
Going to be using CF-Root the JVQ version, but it hasn't been tested, and obviously the first time i do this i dont want it going wrong.
So back to the question could it cause me an instant brick even though i follow the instruction to the letter? (because it is not tested or otherwise..)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
BTW im complete stock official JVQ from kies, GT-I9000
Thanks
No, it can't brick the phone. The only thing that can brick the phone (and it can be fixed) is a problem with bootloaders and that can happen when flashing a stock ROM with bootloaders, not when flashing a kernel.
Not at all kernel didnt brick ur phone....if anything goes wrong i just give u a bootloop and u have to flash back to stock with odin....dnt try on the phone which has no download mode.
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Thank you both. I tried it and all went well
Well apart from my phone being more laggy, but it doesn't makes sense for that to be because of the kernal right? CF-Root is stock kernal... On post in that thread, it wasn't tested at the time.
well if it feels laggy, try another kernel
now you have root, download SGS kernel flasher from the market which will allow you to flash another kernel without having to use odin
try Hardcore's kernel, it is very robust and shown to work for many firmware's and phones -- if your phone responds better then it was the previous kernel giving you the lag feeling.
If, however, you try Hardcore's kernel and the phone doesn't change, its not the kernel its your phone and it needs a clean-up. Start in recovery by cleaning the cache and davlik cache. See if that helps.
At this point don't worry about some of the more aggressive or advanced kernels until you get more comfortable.
when flashing kernel it needs to wipe all the phone ? or simple flashing to recovery is ok without restore to factory default?
hey I have been away from note some time now...
so I've tried to read about the BRICK problem..
I just can't figure out if there is any safe ICS ??
dk_iceman said:
hey I have been away from note some time now...
so I've tried to read about the BRICK problem..
I just can't figure out if there is any safe ICS ??
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As far as I know the LPY was an issue and as long as you don't wipe data/factory reset in that one, than it shuouldn't be a problem either...I'm on LQ2 and have been on LP9 I think and I even accidently wiped data in LP9 and nothing happend. So you should be safe as long as you're not on LPY and like get the LQ2 or LQ3 version.
ICS is safe with a safe kernel i.e. CM9,franco kernel etc which are clear of any wipe bug present in the stock ICS kernels.Hence, the CM9 nightlies,ParanoidAndroid and other ROMs which utilize to CM9 kernels are safe.
Alteratively, you can also flash to GB and then flash a ROM with an unsafe kernel and then flash a safe kernel via PC Odin.It's recommended to go through flashing GB as it reduces risk.However,do this at your own risk
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As far as I know the LPY was an issue and as long as you don't wipe data/factory reset in that one, than it shuouldn't be a problem either...I'm on LQ2 and have been on LP9 I think and I even accidently wiped data in LP9 and nothing happend. So you should be safe as long as you're not on LPY and like get the LQ2 or LQ3 version.
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According to my understanding/knowledge none of available ICS official firmware/ROM is safe. Use safe kernels and ROMs mentioned by warfareonly.
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ICS is safe with a safe kernel i.e. CM9,franco kernel etc which are clear of any wipe bug present in the stock ICS kernels.Hence, the CM9 nightlies,ParanoidAndroid and other ROMs which utilize to CM9 kernels are safe.
Alteratively, you can also flash to GB and then flash a ROM with an unsafe kernel and then flash a safe kernel via PC Odin.It's recommended to go through flashing GB as it reduces risk.However,do this at your own risk
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Mostly right. Any AOSP kernel is safe - eg CM9. But then you don't get touchwiz, if you want that.
There are a few Samsung based kernels which have the brick bugs removed. They are probably safe - there have been no bricks with them that I know of.
NEVER wipe or format using stock ics kernel (whether from cwm or within android) if you are rooted.
To be completely safe, either use Odin or from a gb kernel. If you are rooted you don't have to flash a full gb rom - just flash abyss 4.2 and then reboot to recovery (do not reboot the device). Then wipe and flash a cwm flashable from from abyss recovery. There is no danger of the brick bug provided the wipes are done through the gb recovery.
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According to my understanding/knowledge none of available ICS official firmware/ROM is safe. Use safe kernels and ROMs mentioned by warfareonly.
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Yes,you are right. The kernel must not be official,has to be custom(and not based on lpy) to be safe.
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I am on stock DDLP8 with stock kernel. I am planning to flash paranoid android. Can anyone confirm if following steps would work properly:
1. I flash franco kernel via PC odin.
2. Flash Paranoid Android using CWM.
Or shall I resort to the longer & safer route of going back to GB first & then flashing paranoid android.
Read the instructions given on the Paranoid Android ROM thread.They clearly state to go back and flash from a GB rom...Here, I've posted the info for you
--->DON'T flash FROM ANY SAMSUNG ICS OR ROMS BASED ON SAMSUNG KERNELS
--->Flash any stock GB rom with odin / or any GB kernel ,root deviceand reboot into recovery once again before flashing this
--->Install Rom: http://d-h.st/agf 119.46 MB
--->Install HYBRID Gapps: http://tjohansson.is-a-geek.com/file...0511-fixed.zip
--->Wipe caches, factory reset is a must if you're coming from another rom than CM9
Next time, read.Safety always
Hi good folk!
I have my son's new GN and I want to help him to safely update to ICS OTA and root.
Is it safe and possible to go from unrooted GB, do the OTA update to ICS, then flash n' root the SpeedMod kernel via Odin?
It's wipe and restore with default ICS kernel that's unsafe if I've read right?
Thanks for your help!
Ok, I sound like a total noob, I admit it!
Safest way to get speed mod kernel onto unrooted stock ics please. I have been looking, but it's like spaghetti junction out there!
Thanks!
Yup, its wiping in recovery or factory resets which is causing problems. You should be able to safely upgrade to ICS.
Not sure about the kernel. Just read the stickies. I think it would be covered.
One advice: scrap stock ROM all together.. Flash something like Asylum ICS, or some safe custom ICS ROM based on stock ROM because frankly stock ICS sucks like hell.. if you need any help, feel free to PM me!
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The safest and easiest method would be,
1. Upgrade to ICS via OTA
2. Root with temporary CWM method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148
3. Get Mobile Odin from Google Play (or search in xda)
4. Flash latest speedmod kernel for ICS (k3-5 .tar) via mobile odin
5. Reboot to recovery and do wipe from there if needed
Great! Thanks for your helpful replies, much appreciated!
i suggest you to be on gb to stay on safest side otherwise ics is a pain in ass.. go upgrade i can't stop you
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Anything is not safe if you don't know how to use it properly...
I don't advise you to go OTA, as if you read there are many posts are there describing battery issue, FC, unable to go to deep sleep. what are happens is likely due to previous ROM junks (thogh may not happen in all cases, b'coz there state of ROM may be clear at time of OTA update)
What i suggest best thing is to go this way
-Take backup of important data, as you have unrooted GB so you have limited scope for backup, but there is lots of applications then worth to get Root (if your RO is directly rootable) then create backup with titanium or same other application. just backup only user applications only not system junk.
-Wipe cache and data fro recovery (you can get recovery with Vol Up+home+power)
-Download ICS ROM and flash using odin from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Here is installation and rooting guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26455511&postcount=2475
-Now you will feel fresh ICS experience. and you can restore your data which you have created earlier.
But if you dont have much application to backup, then escape root, Backup/restore steps i have mentioned. Contacts can be backup with google sync, as well from contact - import/export
and SMS can be backup with SMS backup and restore application
as well there is free appl for unroot ' My bakup" on market is good to backup these stuffs.
GoodLuck!
Edit : Yes wiping is not safe on ICS. but custom kernels are safer compare to stock. you can flash any safe kernel like CF,Franco,speedmod and some more (get it from development section) after finishing root ICS.
Just remember golden rule, avoid deleting big files, wipe and recovery function on ICS. then you are safe.
Ahh wow thanks but too late! My son started playing with his phone before I could speak to him last night, and this morning I looked at his phone and saw it had ICS. Either this phone came preinstalled with ics, or I suspect that it updated when he turned on wifi, as auto update was ticked.
So I root, flash speedmod kernel and reboot to recovery to be safe from the bad bug, then install a custom ics rom over the ota stock rom?
One question please. So I'm on stock ics from ota. After flashing speedmod kernel and rebooting to recovery, is it then safe to wipe cache and dalvik after doing this, and before installing a custom ics rom?
Many thanks again..bowled over by responses to a noob from respected xda peeps!
Okay, I'm on the Speedmod kernel and already the stock ota ics is visibly smoother. one step at a time!
Speedmod kernel is.safer.then stock.and disabled emmc erase cap command to remove brick bug. But still to be safe side avoid unnecessarily wipe as well.recovery function till that's not must. Here nobody claim 100% safe like gb kernel.
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hey
the gn is kl what is the speed mod
Rooted and custom rom installed safely, thanks for all your help!
Hey all,
Quite confused here, taking the advice from the older threads I flashed using odin the stock firmware which I got from samfirmware and followed the instructions. Everything installed correctly however the phone will not boot :S
I ticked only PDA in which I entered the md5 file.
Came from cm9 nightly and flashed United Kingdom (Carphone Warehouse) 2012 July 4.0.4 N7000XXLRK N7000CPWLP5
Any help is appreciated and needed urgently - Thank you.
-Shaizer
did you make a nandroid?
if you could get into recovery, (and you still have CWM) it would imply that you did not successfully flash the tw-based kernel.
no tw-based kernel means that a TW-based rom will not boot (unless you had hydracore)
buut... if you do have the stock ICS kernel on there, and try to flash anything, you could brick.
so best bet is to flash GB via odin, then flash CWM, SU, and then flash a custom ROM with a safe kernel in it.
pretty dangerous to even use stock ICS rom
when u say phone will not boot? is it blank or stuck on GT N7000 logo or the Samsung glowing logo?
Its stuck on glowing Samsung logo, I'm in download mode now - what is the best option for me? Might just flash GB rom
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did you make a nandroid?
if you could get into recovery, (and you still have CWM) it would imply that you did not successfully flash the tw-based kernel.
no tw-based kernel means that a TW-based rom will not boot (unless you had hydracore)
buut... if you do have the stock ICS kernel on there, and try to flash anything, you could brick.
so best bet is to flash GB via odin, then flash CWM, SU, and then flash a custom ROM with a safe kernel in it.
pretty dangerous to even use stock ICS rom
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How can I go into recovery to check that? I only know how to get into download mode.
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Its stuck on glowing Samsung logo, I'm in download mode now - what is the best option for me? Might just flash GB rom
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getting into recovery is the opposite of getting into download mode. use power button/ volume up/ home instead of power button/volume down/home
but IMO safest thing to do at all is to just get yourself onto a safe kernel before doing anything else.
flash yourself a stock pre-rooted GB ROM via odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025
then read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this way you will ensure that you are on a safe kernel.
from there get yourself a working version of CWM and move on to whatever ROM you want.
are you trying to flash stock ICS for a service request for the phone, etc? you might be much better off with any stock-based ICS rom.
if after this you REALLY REALLY want a stock ICS rom, then use mobile odin to flash the ROM but use a 'safe' stock kernel with mmc_cap_erase disabled.
this is the closest you can get to bone stock but safe. (this will not even get you rooted).
another advantage of starting with pre-rooted GB stock and going from there is no raised flash counter either.
guitarplayerone said:
getting into recovery is the opposite of getting into download mode. use power button/ volume up/ home instead of power button/volume down/home
but IMO safest thing to do at all is to just get yourself onto a safe kernel before doing anything else.
flash yourself a stock pre-rooted GB ROM via odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this way you will ensure that you are on a safe kernel.
from there get yourself a working version of CWM and move on to whatever ROM you want.
are you trying to flash stock ICS for a service request for the phone, etc? you might be much better off with any stock-based ICS rom
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Doing this now, hope it works - using the GB rom from when I first rooted (from GB) so hopefully should work
its just a matter of doing a wipe cache and wipe dalvik and data wipe. but as u on ics u can't. unless u install a safe kernel. If you installing gb, then after that reboot into recovery
vol up + pwr + home and then do a data factory reset, wipe cache and all should be good
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Doing this now, hope it works - using the GB rom from when I first rooted (from GB) so hopefully should work
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it's possible, but quite unlikely, that you have already hardbricked your phone between flashing stock ICS via odin and the boot.
more likely than not you are fine.
next time remember to make a nandroid. and never flash stock ICS kernels (or especially flash anything while already on a stock ICS kernel). these are the top 2 rules of having an n7000. if you follow them in teh future you will never have any problems
and please thank me if my posts helped
FWIW there were reports of hard bricks using the new stock JB kernel too, as Samsung decided to patch the bug 'their own way', which didn't seem to work. so only thing which is 100% safe is when mmc_cap_erase is disabled
Ah Relief - Finally got the phone booted into GB rom. How can I now install the Stock unrooted ICS room? Can't I just upgrade using OTA? I'm selling the note on ebay so need it to be fresh ICS.
as the phone is in the boot loop its clear indication that it's a data corruption problem and not a brick at all. Just need that wipes after ics install on a safe kernel
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getting into recovery is the opposite of getting into download mode. use power button/ volume up/ home instead of power button/volume down/home
but IMO safest thing to do at all is to just get yourself onto a safe kernel before doing anything else.
flash yourself a stock pre-rooted GB ROM via odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025
then read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this way you will ensure that you are on a safe kernel.
from there get yourself a working version of CWM and move on to whatever ROM you want.
are you trying to flash stock ICS for a service request for the phone, etc? you might be much better off with any stock-based ICS rom.
if after this you REALLY REALLY want a stock ICS rom, then use mobile odin to flash the ROM but use a 'safe' stock kernel with mmc_cap_erase disabled.
this is the closest you can get to bone stock but safe. (this will not even get you rooted).
another advantage of starting with pre-rooted GB stock and going from there is no raised flash counter either.
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as the phone is in the boot loop its clear indication that it's a data corruption problem and not a brick at all. Just need that wipes after ics install on a safe kernel
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Thanks for this, you're right it wasn't a brick - I'm now on a safe GB rom but really want this note to be in a stock unrooted ICS rom for the person buying it off me.
Connect to kies and update. If not use the same ics rom and flash it using odin. This time phone will start.
Before that while on gb do a factory reset.. connect to pc and format internal storage for you to get rid of all data
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if you are selling it, then I guess bone stock (without even safe kernel) is the way to go
just bear in mind with my method it is possible to get onto stock unrooted ICS but with a kernel without the bug.
I am not 100% certain if the phone will update OTA with that kernel though, so I guess use the other method
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with all due respect- this is not true.
yes, in the general case, this is a sign of a softbrick. and if he never mentioned a stock ROM, it would definitely be a soft brick
however, there have been folks with hard bricks who have had /system and /data partitions screwed up who have even booted all the way into the OS. yes HARD brick. implying that there are actual corrupted partitions.
updating to stock ICS rom will put the affected kernel right back on his phone.
flashing another kernel from the affected kernel brings chance of a hard brick. (yes even though hypothetically you are only flashing /boot. but would you really take that chance with /boot? there have been reports of other partitions besides /data and /system being messed up, FYI)
it makes much more sense to flash the ROM via mobile odin, which gives you the option to flash a safe kernel at the same time.
this way OP is never on an unsafe kernel.
just because very few people bricked from flashing a safe kernel off off stock ICS doesn't mean that it isn't possible.
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So if I use the OTA install method, there is a risk of bricking my device? I really don't think the person buying my phone will fiddle around with roms and kernels - so what do you reckon I should do? Does mobile Odin download a safe kernel for me?
give it in stock gb only.. let. him upgrade
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give it in stock gb only.. let. him upgrade
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nokiamodeln91 said:
give it in stock gb only.. let. him upgrade
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Hmmm this current GB rom is rooted though so you reckon its better to unroot it and just sell as GB? I didn't specify GB or ICS
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Hmmm this current GB rom is rooted though so you reckon its better to unroot it and just sell as GB? I didn't specify GB or ICS
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Flash stock GB over odin.
if you wanted to be nice to the user, you could flash a ROM with a CSC corresponding to whatever region they are located in. That way you can factory reset and it will show up in the language they are used to.
If he is on stock, it will automatically go look for updates and tell him he could update
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Flash stock GB over odin.
if you wanted to be nice to the user, you could flash a ROM with a CSC corresponding to whatever region they are located in. That way you can factory reset and it will show up in the language they are used to.
If he is on stock, it will automatically go look for updates and tell him he could update
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Might actually have to do that, this phone is european so it starts in German...since when did German become the EU language right?! We won the war
Hey people,
a friend of mine was on the official XXLRK. Had the phone for Paranoid flashed, but the system has spun halfway.
Then they wanted the following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1970626
But madame was once again unhappy and wanted back the original state of the N7000. Then I got the XXLRK downloaded again and flashed over Odin as PDA. With boats for about 10 minutes, the Samsung logo turns solid back and forth, more happens during prolonged periods not wait. Einzuspielen at a Gingerbread software, the system messages such as showing "application needs to close" etc.
Question is: how to continue / front right?
Thanks for your answers
lg
Flash a safe kernel via ODIN, something like hydracore / philz / speedmod.
boot into recovery, do all the wipes and then reboot, This should remove the FC issues.
but then it is a custom kernel not a official samsung right?
are there any instruction to go back to a fully working stock firmware?
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but then it is a custom kernel not a official samsung right?
are there any instruction to go back to a fully working stock firmware?
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Flashing fully stock is as above. Go to samfirmware and download stock rom, or Dr ketans thread, install via pc odin. Then if chosen ics, immediately flash safe kernel just to be safe.
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Yes it would be a custom kernel, But the stock kernel is unsafe and I would advise any one to NOT use it, even if you are an average user not into modding and hacking, a factory reset or multiple file delete could cause damage.
however if you insist on being 100% stock, follow the above steps for flashing safe kernel and wiping, then after the wipes reflash stock firmware to get the stock kernel back.
Besides, stock is crap, custom ROMs and kernels offer way more speed, stability and features