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[Q] Soft bricked, no download mode, jig doesn't do anything.

My phone only displays the phone!computer icon, and I've tried all the button combinations for getting into download mode. I tried using a usb jig and it does nothing at all. The computer doesn't recognize the phone when I plug it in. Is there any way to fix this?
I've been reading as many posts about this as I can, but I've been awake around 30 hours now and I just don't think I can dig around any more. This really sucks

Sorry that you hadn't come across this sooner, but you can use that phone--/!\--pc screen as download mode. Just fire up Odin/Heimdall, hook it up to your computer, and Odin/Heimdall should see it and be ready to flash.

Thanks, but I've tried both and neither of them recognize my phone.

Have you looked through the Captivate Connection Issues thread. That will cover a lot of the steps that might get your phone and pc communicating again.

Faced this recently and i was not able to flash stock from phone ! com screen as the phone was not reconized by PC, Used a jig and the phone was in DL mode.
Do you have a proper jig or a home made one ?

Yes I have tried the methods in the Connection Issues thread, couldn't get any of them to work though.
I have a jig I bought from amazon.

Use that screen as dl mode
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I've tried that but odin or heimdall won't recognize my phone.

drktigger said:
I've tried that but odin or heimdall won't recognize my phone.
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Then I bet you either have a bad cable or you messed up your drivers by using both Odin AND heimdall.
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Hmmm... but I've been able to use both before I bricked my phone.

I think there is something wrong with ur cable and jig its not possible that jig will not force this screen to DL mode. Did u checked the jig with another phone ?

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Hmmm... but I've been able to use both before I bricked my phone.
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Heimdall's drivers breaks Odin on that usb port.
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Well, my usb cable never gave me any trouble before, and I've used it many times to flash roms to my phone.
The jig has never worked though, even when I tried it while my phone was functional. Should I try to make my own jig to see if that works? Is it possible that a jig doesn't work for all phones, or is that pretty unlikely?
I use separate usb ports, one for odin and the other one for heimdall.

drktigger said:
Well, my usb cable never gave me any trouble before, and I've used it many times to flash roms to my phone.
The jig has never worked though, even when I tried it while my phone was functional. Should I try to make my own jig to see if that works? Is it possible that a jig doesn't work for all phones, or is that pretty unlikely?
I use separate usb ports, one for odin and the other one for heimdall.
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You could have a bad jig, worst case scenario your phones usb port could be busted. More likely that the jig has a cheap or faulty resistor. I
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Okay, so I guess my best bet is to just try to build my own jig. I'm thinking I'll try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889128

Remember the correct resistance is 301k ohms. Although anything from 287k-309k should work. But considering radio Shack resistors have 5% margin I've had phones not work with 300k. Just a fyi.
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Okay, but I know next to nothing about this stuff, so how would I make a jig that's 301k or 309k ohm as opposed to one that's just 300k ohm. I've never had to buy resisters before so...

Uh probably will need to buy enough to sum up 301k (ei 3 100k + 1 1k) unless your Radio Shack (or other electronic store) has a 300k or 301k single resistor. This is what I used to make my first one. Just don't bother buying the usb head he uses (way to expensive). You can skip the connector and just stick the resistors directly in the phones hub though thats up 2 you.

Okay uhhhhh derp! That sounds simple enough lol just making sure I get it right. Thanks a lot man. I guess I'll be making a trip to radio shack as soon as I can. Hope this works!

I got the jig built and fidgeted around for around 20 minutes, and thought maybe this wasn't going to work. Then I remembered I had an old charging cable I found in an office trash can. I cut out the micro usb part and plugged it into the phone and touched the jig on pins 4 and 5, waited a few, and the download mode screen popped up! I was so close to giving up I couldn't believe my eyes! Thank you so much for your help everyone. I mean holy crap...

USB Droid 3

OK I had a USB cable that Verizon sent me with my like new phone aka used and the USB cable is a data cable and will I can not root with it or any thing it will charge the and that's it my bro let me use his USB cable that came with his Droid 3 using the same computer and it works I can movie my stuff to the SD card but not with my data cable all I can do is charge my phone with it and the box says its a data cable so can you guys give me more info and yes the drivers are installed right because my bros cable works
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Ye heard other say that..
But I use about 6 different cables and all of them work the same

Sounds like a somewhat faulty cable. I'd recommend just using a different one or take that one to a Verizon store and seeing if they'll swap it out for a new one.

DoubleYouPee said:
Ye heard other say that..
But I use about 6 different cables and all of them work the same
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I have one cable that will charge it and one that will let me plug in too USB but will not charge it I just need a link to a cable that will work
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I think the Moto cables are crossover data cables. This pin configuration would render normal cables as only power cables. It helps them make ONLY their cables work for data, so you buy theirs. **This is merely my theory as to why only Moto cables do data though. Switched pins on phone and crossed over wires.**
If someone has one that currently just charges it, and wouldn't mind maybe ruining it for the better of society , could you open it up and cross over the data wires?

redsox985 said:
I think the Moto cables are crossover data cables. This pin configuration would render normal cables as only power cables. It helps them make ONLY their cables work for data, so you buy theirs. **This is merely my theory as to why only Moto cables do data though. Switched pins on phone and crossed over wires.**
If someone has one that currently just charges it, and wouldn't mind maybe ruining it for the better of society , could you open it up and cross over the data wires?
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Your right and moto is sending me one made for the Droid 3 they told me that's y it was not working I just called them up they told me what you just told me and they are now sending me a new charging data cable with power brick for free you got to love moto
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And thank you for your help
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redsox985 said:
I think the Moto cables are crossover data cables. This pin configuration would render normal cables as only power cables. It helps them make ONLY their cables work for data, so you buy theirs. **This is merely my theory as to why only Moto cables do data though. Switched pins on phone and crossed over wires.**
If someone has one that currently just charges it, and wouldn't mind maybe ruining it for the better of society , could you open it up and cross over the data wires?
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My Kindle cable works fine with my Droid 3 for data and charging - I travel with only micro-USB cable, it's the Kindle cable, and that works. In fact, I just plugged in a cable from a WD Passport external hard disk - that also works fine.
I do suggest people to use the Moto cable if they are having trouble using others, but I have never had an issue using non-Moto cables with the D3 for anything, from charging to USB data connection to a computer.

Sounds like a bad cable. The data wires are more sensitive to physical issues than the Vcc and ground wires. I one had a cheap generic USB cable I was using and while it charged devices fine, it would cause Windows or the device to hang if i tried transferring data.

Motorola TBH Cables

Does anyone know how the Team Black Hat factory cables work? What's different internally that allows the phone to boot normally, but without the battery?

I made my own. On a normal cable pin 1 is 5v+, pin 2 and pin three are transmit and receive(Tx-Rx), Pin 4 is unused, and Pin 5 is Neg-.
On the TBH cable (also known as a Motorola Factory Programming cable) Pin 4 is used as a 5v+. So essentially if you can find a cable that you can get access to the pins (I went through a few till I found an accessible one) you can solder a jumper wire from the #1 pin to the #4 Pin and it allows you to flash your phone in fastboot no matter what the current charge status of the battery is (or potentially whether there's even a battery at all)
It's a lifesaver if you do a lot of flashing or modding to Motorola phones. Especially phone like the RazR that have an internal battery. I've been stuck in fastboot a cvouple times on a dead battery unable to flash and had to hardwire the battery. This solved that issue. I also find I have a lot less failed flashes as well.
If you're not the small electronics savvy kinda person, I highly reccomend grabbing one up from any available source.

queberican351 said:
I made my own. On a normal cable pin 1 is 5v+, pin 2 and pin three are transmit and receive(Tx-Rx), Pin 4 is unused, and Pin 5 is Neg-.
On the TBH cable (also known as a Motorola Factory Programming cable) Pin 4 is used as a 5v+. So essentially if you can find a cable that you can get access to the pins (I went through a few till I found an accessible one) you can solder a jumper wire from the #1 pin to the #4 Pin and it allows you to flash your phone in fastboot no matter what the current charge status of the battery is (or potentially whether there's even a battery at all)
It's a lifesaver if you do a lot of flashing or modding to Motorola phones. Especially phone like the RazR that have an internal battery. I've been stuck in fastboot a cvouple times on a dead battery unable to flash and had to hardwire the battery. This solved that issue. I also find I have a lot less failed flashes as well.
If you're not the small electronics savvy kinda person, I highly reccomend grabbing one up from any available source.
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Couldn't I just cross over a few wires in the actual cable instead of trying to work with the tiny plug?

Queberican, also, how does Moto make it so that other/older USB cables are only seen as power. Are the transmit & receive crossed over internally? I have an older cable I carry with me for on the go charging and it's only seen my by D3 as a power supply, but my friend's D Inc sees this same cable as data and power.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077414&highlight=motorola+factory+cable
Before we had our cables produced for us and started making them available, MotoCache1 wrote up the procedure and explanation and posted it.
We were very sensitive to accusations that we were trying to exploit users who had bricked their phones by selling them overpriced cables.
The truth is that having these custom made in very small quantities is expensive, especially doing it domestically in the US using premium quality components.

I dont know if any of you guys know this but if you call moto and till them the phone you got from verizon was referbished they will send you a new charging block and usb data cable for free i did this and my new moto cable works good
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So, basically, all I need to do is add a split to the pin 1 wire so that I can provide power to both pins 1 and 4?

redsox985 said:
So, basically, all I need to do is add a split to the pin 1 wire so that I can provide power to both pins 1 and 4?
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Moto will send you a free one
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leerpsp said:
Moto will send you a free one
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A free programming cable?! I doubt that.

redsox985 said:
A free programming cable?! I doubt that.
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a free usb data cable with power block is what im talking about all you have to do is till them that verizon did not send you one and they send you a new one and you get it by fedx 2day

leerpsp said:
a free usb data cable with power block is what im talking about all you have to do is till them that verizon did not send you one and they send you a new one and you get it by fedx 2day
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I may do this just so I don't have to butcher my current cable. I want to build a "factory/programming cable" that allows me to flash and/or boot without a battery.

redsox985 said:
I may do this just so I don't have to butcher my current cable. I want to build a "factory/programming cable" that allows me to flash and/or boot without a battery.
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Yep thats what i did new is the way to go
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The same exact type of cable is used with the Kindle.
If you don't wish to make your own. You can get them on ebay around $10. Search kindle factory cable or fastboot cable.
I have used it with the Droid 3 to flash and power without battery.

Rooted Warranty

Hey guys,
So the battery went bad on my D4 last week. My phone is rooted, and it will not boot past the DualCore screen. Because it won't boot, there is no way for me to unroot it. Is it safe to send in for a warranty claim since it doesn't boot, or will they try to fix it and then see if it is rooted?

They might not. I busted my usb port once... phone was still rooted and I crazy glued the port closed so the people who reciecve it wouldn't know. Give it a shot it, because if they do find out you would have to pay for another phone anyway.
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Have you tried connecting to a pc using a official Motorola usb cable? Sometimes that works even if the battery won't charge or at least i think i read that somewhere.

maddeath said:
Have you tried connecting to a pc using a official Motorola usb cable? Sometimes that works even if the battery won't charge or at least i think i read that somewhere.
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Its not an official motorola cable, its a motorola factory cable, it bypasses battery and directly powers the device, and you can use it to charge and flash in a low battery situation.
I think you would be okay, because the first thing they usually do is flash it back to stock before checking the hardware. I sent in a phone that was safestrapped/rooted, because it died after overheating, and everything checked out okay.
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Here's one for the record books....

Ok so i "had" a fully functional Droid bionic. It was running on eclipse 3.0 everything was fine. So i decided to change roms to Cm9 just to try it for fun. i must have done it wrong because now it is bricked... All it will do is show the boot logo of go into fastboot so i know there is still something there but my battery must be dead because it says battery low cannot program so i can't flash anything to it... So my question is how do i get it charged enough to flash ????? Please help

lance2ecnal said:
Ok so i "had" a fully functional Droid bionic. It was running on eclipse 3.0 everything was fine. So i decided to change roms to Cm9 just to try it for fun. i must have done it wrong because now it is bricked... All it will do is show the boot logo of go into fastboot so i know there is still something there but my battery must be dead because it says battery low cannot program so i can't flash anything to it... So my question is how do i get it charged enough to flash ????? Please help
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You either need another battery, an external battery charger, or a factory cable. Maybe you have a friend with a Bionic who can either lend you their battery for a while or can charge yours. Otherwise, you probably have to buy something. A new battery at the nearest Verizon store would probably be the quickest solution, but getting something online would be the most cost effective.

Thanks
I do have a factory cable what good does that do me ? And i have no friends with bionics

A factory cable isn't the one that came with your phone, it's a cable like they use at the factory to fix and program phones. Basically it has one of the power wires in the USB spliced to a wire that goes to a normally unused pin in the usb connector which allows charging while the phone cannot start.
http://shop.teamblackhat.info/Factory-style-programming-cable-for-Motorola-FactCable.htm

Oh...
Oh i see well ok then guess i am screwed

There are tutorials online about how to make a factory cable from a standard one, but they can be risky.
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FIXED
Well.. i just went to a battery store and this this little clip thing that charges it via usb. it worked

Nice.
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