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I'm quite new to this community and i want to ask a lot of questions to the people that know the answers i tried searching the forum or google but i get some bits and pieces of info that are most confusing and there's no straight answer.First and most important is about flashing my device and all the new ROM's that are "cooked" and my questions are
"Do i need to do that?"
and
"What are the benefits from it?" cause if it's only for looks there's a lot of programs that can do the same stuff. I supose ROM fashing has to do something with performance too but there's is no complete info anywhere only numbers and letters that doesn't mean anything to me.
I understand that there is no official 6.5 upgrade of winmo fo HD and thats why there are the "cooked" versions of it but how can i make a difference between a good "cooked" version and the unstable ones.
Also are there ROM's that can damage my device even when doing everything by the book? and..
Is the "Dummies guide..." thread for every HD no matter when you bought it and what stock ROM is already on your device ( i don't know if there is a big difference but i have to ask).
I guess i wrote all of this because I don't want to ask and write a milion more times when i do something wrong by flashing it without enough knowledge.I understand that these questions are the deffinition of "noob" but for me it's "better safe than sorry".

andes83 said:
"Do i need to do that?"
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No, apparently not!
andes83 said:
"What are the benefits from it?"
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You can get out more of your device.
andes83 said:
I supose ROM fashing has to do something with performance too but there's is no complete info anywhere only numbers and letters that doesn't mean anything to me.
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In fact comparing the performance of ROMs is very susbjective in most cases. However there are a few benchmarking applications, the results should be quite self explainable.
andes83 said:
I understand that there is no official 6.5 upgrade of winmo fo HD and thats why there are the "cooked" versions of it but how can i make a difference between a good "cooked" version and the unstable ones.
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Normally most chiefs are trying to get stable versions, so if there is anything wrong with the ROM it should be pronounced in the description.
However you are free to try it on your own, as you won't damage anything by flashing a custom ROM at all.
andes83 said:
Also are there ROM's that can damage my device even when doing everything by the book?
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Normally you won't damage anything, but be aware that nobody can assure that. However I'm flashing ROMs since months on a weekly basis and haven't had any issues so far.
andes83 said:
Is the "Dummies guide..." thread for every HD no matter when you bought it and what stock ROM is already on your device ( i don't know if there is a big difference but i have to ask).
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Normally it should work on every device.
I suppose you read up some of the threads and the wiki. Before flashing anything you should really know what you are doing, and what is going to be different afterwards. It sounds a bit goofy, but I guess there are enough people out there, who can't say what they are actually doing.

Pretty much everything covered by Johnpatcher already/
To add a few things just.
"Do i need to do that?"
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"What are the benefits from it?"
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I supose ROM flashing has to do something with performance to
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You don't need to do anything though many people are tempted due to the improvements in stability, less bugs/issues, speed etc
how can i make a difference between a good "cooked" version and the unstable ones.
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Very few unstable roms out there and generally speaking if you look at how long the thread for each rom is you'll get a bit of understanding of how popular it is....i,e, safe, reliable etc etc. Also read this
Also are there ROM's that can damage my device even when doing everything by the book? and..
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I've basically tried nearly all roms and haven't damaged my device yet. As long as you use HSPL or USPL you will be fine. Info on each in the wiki
Is the "Dummies guide..." thread for every HD no matter when you bought it and what stock ROM is already on your device ( i don't know if there is a big difference but i have to ask).
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The dummies guide is an excellent guide by a good friend of mine and is intended for complete novices and noobs. If you follow this you cannot go wrong. If by accident you get stuck somewhere following his guide, just ask for help in his thread and many people including cRaCKwHoRe and myself will be more than happy to assist you.
it's "better safe than sorry"
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No one's going to disagree with that!!

To answer this persons questions will only encourage him/her and other noobs to post where ever they feel like when clearly this topic info is available by reading searching amd experience.

I agree with you to a certain extent. Thats why I provided a link to wiki & guide for him/her to read up on. But at some point we have all been noobs and to offer a little advice isn't too much to ask for. Afterall this is a community based on sharing knowledge.
Depending on mood I'm in I sometimes just tell them to read wiki etc and other times I offer more. Maybe today I'm just in a good mood!!!

homer285 said:
To answer this persons questions will only encourage him/her and other noobs to post where ever they feel like when clearly this topic info is available by reading searching amd experience.
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or we could just refer them to this thread, without the need to come over and appear hostile

or we could just refer them to this thread, without the need to come over and appear hostile
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Come on there are hundreds of these threads that get closed because noobs like you yourself are either ignorant or too lazy to read, for those of us who actually bother to read it is extremely frustrating to sift through post after post of the exact same questions with the exact same answers that already have sticky's and/or detailed info in the Wiki.

I'm inclined to agree, I'm a noobie, but haven't and wouldn't post questions about 'how to flash' etc etc as there is clearly many many threads about it- you just have to take the time to read up on them before taking the plunge.
Read the stickies, read again- and again, when you are ready to flash have loads of pages open to answer any questions as things happen when you are flashing, Truth is, it's nothing to worry about, choose a rom, install HSPL first and flash away, it does it all automatically for you.

Thank you for your quick reply and the information given and to the people who object to my questions actually when you're writing in this thread without a solution or help you're flooding more than me and yes i tried to get the answers form the forum and google also as i wrote in my first post but i didn't get them thats why i аsked and thankfuly people who have been in my position understood what I was implying to.There was no need for hostility ... Whatever thanks again and i hope i won't have to write here again as I see it's making people angry.

It is intimidating at first, but stick with it and it'll start to become clear, once you do it you'll get the flashing bug!

[Q] Stock phone

Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?

Yeah there are a few here. Search and you will see them!

There was a thread here where someone posted a stock ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838151
Hope this helps,
AoN

its the one click odin jf6 if you want to go all the way back to the first software that came with the captivate. search for it

another post posted in the perfect section ...

DAGr8 said:
another post posted in the perfect section ...
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this.
why do people not even pay attention to what section is what?

jess086 said:
Does anyone have a perfectly stock backup will all blot ware like it's out the box?
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Is this developement related or should this be in the QA section? I do think it belongs in the QA section. Next time post in the correct section or post will get reported as spam lol

1. Search dude. This is one of the most obvious questions I've ever seen asked here.
2. Read around the forums before posting, that goes hand-in-hand with searching...
3. Post in the right friggin' section. You have a [Q] in your tread title which means it's a question, which is fine, but its not a "Captivate Android Development" question! It belongs in the Question and Answer section. (which is amazingly obvious, it's not like they hide it from you around here)
4. The answer to your question is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 which you didn't even need to search to find, its on the first page of the Development section which I know you looked in because you posted here.
*sigh*

The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!

silverslotcar said:
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
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+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies

+2.....We were all newbs once and some of us still learning everyday. Just do some research...this is a great place to learn and get the most of your device.
Sent from my cog bacon cappy...

diablo009 said:
+1 we ought to be a little patient to newbies
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No, we shouldn't. Threads like these impair actual threads that get pushed to page two.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

silverslotcar said:
The kid has two posts total. He is obviously new to the forums. So stop just repeating what everyone says. He doesn't need four people to tell him its a question and should be in the Q&A section. Don't act like its outrageous for a beginner to do something like ask a question in the development section, LIKE OMFG JESUS!! Sick of the clutter from all the questions yea, but also sick of reading all the bash posts towards people that are fresh to the forums. You were once a noob too!
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I have to agree with this 100%. When I first started I didn't even realize I could search the forums or threads. Instead of someone pointing out to me there was search and explain how it works I was unbelievably verbally beaten to a bloody pulp about what an idiot I was. Even today I was taken to task for a post that cites a measure of rom's performance instead of the accepted evaluations we see day in and day out-fantastic, great, best, unbelievably fast. To me the true evaluation of a rom has to be functionality and some measure. If you do not think Quadrant scores, net speed tests and Lin pack scores measure performance tell me what does. I understand e mail works, videos play, I can make phone calls etc. That tells me how the rom functions. How do you measure a rom's performance other than to say fantastic, great, good etc.? Tell me.

All the "this is in the wrong forum, dude" posts are not about development either, so you're all off topic.
Spend less time bashing, and more time helping the new forum members.
The internet doesn't need more assholes, just more manners and good examples.
AoN

So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.

DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
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I've learned my way around on my own for the most part, but damn yall still intimidate me...

odin restore man...read up next time

DemonWav said:
So just because someone is new to the forums we give them some leeway because they can't READ? Seriously guys it doesn't matter how new you are, if you have a question, put it in the Question and Answers thread. Almost every website has a search function, they aren't hard to find, so that excuse of "I didn't know" is pretty bogus.
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this.
just because they are new we are supposed to let them fill the wrong forums up with clutter that they could have easily found by a simple browse around or search?
no.
thats not how it should be handled.
gimme gimme gimme! just doesnt sit well with me.

How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.

silverslotcar said:
How hard is it for a moderator to do their job and move the thread to Q & A or to delete it?? If they did you guys would have no argument that it "pushes" the other threads to page two. I still don't get it......Seems to me like ppl are making a big deal out of nothing.
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when you are reading these forums every day trying to see whats going on in the dev world, all you see on the front page are [Q] threads, posted in the wrong section. then we have to filter out all the BS and try to find useful info, when it should be right there, easily accessible, which is the point of breaking up the sections of the forums....
it's clutter
and the mods do a good job of moving them, but the n00bs come in here and post the BS so fast, its impossible to keep up.

TO OP

please anyone who cares about this forum, please make a rule, something and arrange the topics by criteria, rom problem, rom request, rom developers, and so etc something like that. is verry hard to read all the posts. dono how to display more post per page. anyway is toooo crawded in here. cleaning is needed. 10x

mmariann2001 said:
please anyone who cares about this forum, please make a rule, something and arrange the topics by criteria, rom problem, rom request, rom developers, and so etc something like that. is verry hard to read all the posts. dono how to display more post per page. anyway is toooo crawded in here. cleaning is needed. 10x
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I find it organized just fine and find whatever I need in the sections it is posted under. Another problem is that you expect everything you need to be separately posted without having to look for it. In fact, I find requests like yours interesting, considering the overall number of posts by you....

enigma1nz said:
I find it organized just fine and find whatever I need in the sections it is posted under. Another problem is that you expect everything you need to be separately posted without having to look for it. In fact, I find requests like yours interesting, considering the overall number of posts by you....
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Can`t say i`ve overposted, but i`m reading this stuff for a while. I will post from now on if that satisfy s u.

Hey there, ther should only be ROM dev going on here. Rom Probs should be asked in the appropriate thread. I also move all other generic Q's to Q&A , but your right, the forum does need cleaning as i've been away for a few weeks
If you have any other issues, feel free to contact me.
Oh, and moved to general

(Q) Android language?

I came across with many words which I don't, how to check or what the meaning of those words!
Like, ROM, ROOT, MY STOCK ICS etc etc ...
I am using samsung galaxy n7000,
I think i really need to get the meaning of the same ...
Thanks in advanced ...!

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I came across with many words which I don't, how to check or what the meaning of those words!
Like, ROM, ROOT, MY STOCK ICS etc etc ...
I am using samsung galaxy n7000,
I think i really need to get the meaning of the same
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Don't worry, it's just the first test of adequacy on the path to xda initiation - only the worthy ones will be able to overcome the terrible obstacles of the dreadful google search, others will perish in the void of superbrick.

See the glossary in the XDA Developers Wiki.
I just tried and added "ICS" to the glossary.

Lolz
p107r0 said:
Don't worry, it's just the first test of adequacy on the path to xda initiation - only the worthy ones will be able to overcome the terrible obstacles of the dreadful google search, others will perish in the void of superbrick.
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Worse answer.
ThaiDai said:
See the glossary in the XDA Developers Wiki.
I just tried and added "ICS" to the glossary.
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Thanks dude, that's what I wanted to know all.

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Thanks dude, that's what I wanted to know all.
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"dude" makes me feel "strange", and for "thanks" you might use the different approach here
Maybe you find missing explanations in the glossary and I will try to fill the holes...

I find the thread Android terms, slang and definitions useful as well, though a wiki is the obvious format for something like this.

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Worse answer.
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Then let me show you something, that you could have done by yourself, before starting new thread in already crowded forum (part of the reason for any difficulties in finding necessary info here is too big number of useless threads/posts):
- http://bit.ly/M20P0p
- http://bit.ly/MLL02D
- http://bit.ly/M21r6m
- http://bit.ly/MLLcyX
and last but not least:
- the large WIKI button on top of the xda portal - is it that hard to find?
- the slang thread suggested by syncopath - it is a sticky thread in android general
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame you for not knowing, nobody is born with knowledge, but starting new pointless thread asking for definitions of terms which are not that difficult to find using google, xda, wiki, for me it's just laziness and nothing more.

backup and custom ROm

hello everybody, i have a 4x that I just rooted, thinking of installing a custom rom for better performance and battery life, but I have a few doubts.
1: can I restore it to the original rom latr and how do I backup everything?
2: I´m having an issue with lack of ram message, will a custom rom help.....

YES,NO,NO
kinda funny questions, O4X got no working daily custom roms yet. do some reading, is your next task

ok
Dexter_nlb said:
YES,NO,NO
kinda funny questions, O4X got no working daily custom roms yet. do some reading, is your next task
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I read a post on CWM, and thought there was something I could do to get more out of the Phone. anyway thanks :good:

I'm not the person who seems to think that questions should be posted in the 'General' forum, rather than in the 'QUESTIONS & ANSWERS' forum.
I'm not the person who is incapable of reading the forum rules before asking questions.
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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If you had bothered to follow that first rule of XDA then it would have taken you less than 5 minutes to realise how stupid and pointless the questions were. If you don't like the answer I gave, then next time SEARCH and READ before deciding to post a question.

SimonTS said:
I'm not the person who seems to think that questions should be posted in the 'General' forum, rather than in the 'QUESTIONS & ANSWERS' forum.
I'm not the person who is incapable of reading the forum rules before asking questions.
If you had bothered to follow that first rule of XDA then it would have taken you less than 5 minutes to realise how stupid and pointless the questions were. If you don't like the answer I gave, then next time SEARCH and READ before deciding to post a question.
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But u must admit ur 1st answer was a bit rude and not really answering the question.
even so u are kinda right u should inform urself before just posting.

Matteo 88 said:
But u must admit ur 1st answer was a bit rude and not really answering the question.
even so u are kinda right u should inform urself before just posting.
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I dont think people mean to be rude, but when people come on most days and ask the same questions without looking first, it annoys some people!

tetsuocwb said:
I read a post on CWM, and thought there was something I could do to get more out of the Phone. anyway thanks :good:
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if that option existed, the developer section would not be missing all the links to custom roms
you can add some hacks and play around with some workarounds, but only a semi alpha rom exists which is for development only. and hoping others could find interest in how i made to create new roms with locked bootloader if possible.