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[I'm posting this in this forum to see what you Android guys think about my issues.]
With the current issues with Chevron and unlocking I am making the decision to trade my omnia for a Galaxy S, the phones are pretty much exactly the same hardware wise. The only thing I don't like about the Galaxy is the shape, I prefer the sqaureness of the Omnia.
Now for my Omnia:
No proper 3rd party communication possibilities(sockets), I use Skype a lot and i've tried alternatives but none of them work well when the phone goes on standby. Microsoft are so controlling with the standby mode that apps are basicly useless when the phone is on standby. Toast notifications are all controlled by MS so if they have issues with their system or a bottleneck I don't get informed that someone has sent me an IM. Which brings me on to another issue.
Microsoft platform.
Microsoft service.
Why the hell is there no Windows Live Messenger support? The fact that a company as big as Microsoft can put out a OS like WP7 and NOT include apps for their own damn product is just stupid. No one knows why they didn't and Microsoft will not give an official reason as to why.
You may say these are all software issues, that they are. Wait for the updates you say...I highly doubt an update that allows apps to use 3rd party protocols will be out for at least 6 months. I thought this februrary update was hopefully going to open up more things on the developer front but all that has been mentioned is Copy & Paste and better performance.
I shouldn't have to wait months and months for updates that allow me to use my phone the way consumers have got used to using them before WP7 was even realeased.
I stuck with Microsoft and had a lot of faith in them and even went as far as to spread the word, but this unlocking issue was the final nail in the coffin. What do you guys think I should do?
WP7 is a good platform, but it's not ready yet for geek users... Android is freedom of choice, for people that enjoy cool featires an tweaking their phone.
I think you should wait for the galaxy s2, though.
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I agree , you should wait for the galaxy s 2
full on support for MSN messenger with voice and video calling support would be a great selling feature for the phone but i think the phone company's have a part to play in that too. With instant messaging and free video calling who'd need call time.
(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.
exe127 said:
(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.
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Where did you get that information? I can't find it on LG USA Facebook. Can you provide us a valid information?
If it's just another speculation, I believe that this topic will be taken down quickly by mods...
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Well that's really sucks...
Sales are down both on year-on-year basis and sequentially and the conglomerate has actually lost some money over the past three months.
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LG reports disappointing Q3 results, handset sales down, and we are disappointing with LG Update results, because they don't care about customers... just thinking about sales and being rich...
exe127 said:
(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.
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Really disappointed. Almost all the other brands(HTC, Samsung, Moto) have announced that most of their android 2.3 smartphones will be upgradable to ICS.
If LG really not provide ICS for optimus black/2x, certainly no one would buy its products again
Agreed. Very disappointing. I love my optimus black but I hate LG now. If optimus black won't have been such an amazing good phone I would have sweared not to buy another LG product for sure.
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Agreed. Very disappointing. I love my optimus black but I hate LG now. If optimus black won't have been such an amazing good phone I would have sweared not to buy another LG product for sure.
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I agree, no more LG products
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LG Jordan - إل جي الأردن Hi Mohammad Abbadi ICS is the android version 2.4, it has been released very recently in the market and as of now its not clear if its going to be available for P970 and P920 ... there is only one model in the market that has ICS and its a Google product... as I informed you The Optimus Black will receive the gingerbread update and we will announce it on our page as soon as the update is ready for the end user... LG Jordan Team thank you for your continuous support to our products and hope you will always be a fan of our page.
I think they will giv 4.0 to ob/2x it will be late but we will hav it
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Well, I think it's still too early to say. ICS has just been released only anyway, i guess it takes time to determine if it comes. Some people say it might come, some say it might not. Only time will tell. Though one thing's right though, updates are awfully slow. I don't know if the LG team is incompetent or just not dedicated, but the other manufacturers are doing a much better job :/
Ya same things happen when gb realesed many peoples said that gb required atleast 1ghz processor but thats all gone fake and i bet ics will come to all high end devices
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what are you all dreaming???ICS on OB and/or 2x??? I am so sceptic about this!!
We have not yet gingerbread on OB, and you are looking forward to ICS??
HAHAHA!! LG treat customers as figures on income reports!!
If they (maybe) give us GB when ICS is out in the market, untill they will give us (or be ready to give us) ICS for OB, the phone will be replaced with another phone .....
I do not believe for a second that this OB will get ICS .. but I will have sold my first and most definately last LG phone before Gingerbread gets within a thousand miles of it. LG - you suck big time, please please go bust!
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rgabi88;18822311untill they will give us (or be ready to give us) ICS for OB said:
Wow,thank You LG.Thats really a shame for a GREAT old GoldStar!!!
You dont have good results in finantial sfare....trust me they will not be better with that kind of threatment.Thats becouse this is not a refrigerator.And when You do nice job of hardwere,You must support it by the softwere side too.
1 ecsited client willl bring You 2-3 another...but 1 disapointed will make go away 10 persons!!!And this is the truth.
I will be the secondone type
You will not going to have better finantial results,ofcourse not from my pocket dudes...
Even Wildfire S is the better choice
Gingerbread for the 1 week of 2015???
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Thats why I sold my OB this week... I'll never trust in LG again.
I moved to an HTC HD2. I know its a quite "old" device, but I'm sure that I will have all updates from community, so its fine for me.
Next time, I'll never think in LG again. Simply, I'm too dissapointed with it, its a shame...
I suggest everyone lets them know what they think on twitter @LGElectronics
hmm honneslty the biggest reason I've bought an OB for, is the nova screen. I was even thinking about selling it for the OW. But, since some times going back to sony ericsson is on my mind (one of my previous phones was a W810i)
Okay no wonder they lost millions from last year. LG is really sucks!!!! Good hardware bad development, very bad to maintain their costumers.
Xiaomi, come to papa! Or Any suggestion for $400 phone?
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Ilko said:
hmm honneslty the biggest reason I've bought an OB for, is the nova screen. I was even thinking about selling it for the OW. But, since some times going back to sony ericsson is on my mind (one of my previous phones was a W810i)
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IPS is very good and natural in color. But nova bright LEDs are just a gimmick. I compared nova and super amoled from nexus s with high brightness, okay p970 has the most brightness but.everthing washed out. Super amoled can keep black color in maximum brightness. But who uses max brightness???
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I suggest everyone lets them know what they think on twitter @LGElectronics
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Does LG get a twitter? they just have facebook in hongkong
I know there's lots of these but they do make me laugh.
Every now and again i like to bug lg support and ask them when ics is going to be released but this is the response i got from them this time.
Mobile Phone Support: Good afternoon you're through to Chelsea Following this chat there is a short survey that will allow you to rate the Live Chat service you have received today. We appreciate all feed back given. How can I help you today?
richard frost: Im trying to find out when the release date is for Ice cream sandwich 4.0 for the lg optimus 2x will be
richard frost: hello?
Mobile Phone Support: Right okay, I do apologize for any inconvenience, but here at technical support we have not been given confirmation yet that this handset will be receiving the update, so we will not be able to give a release date at this time.
richard frost: Lg announced they would be releasing ics for the optimus 2x in the 2nd quarter is 2012....how can you not have any info try using the lg website as a source....
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When i get responses like this i really have to wonder if we really will be getting ICS given not only lgs history but also the fact that their customer support seem to be blissfully unaware of their own announcements.
Meh.. the ics thing is a broken record. I don't really like the OS.
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They are told what they can and can't confirm. If they have been told a date, they won't give it. This is normal industry practice, LG are doing nothing wrong here.
why not
It's sadd and funny in same time.
For example Baltic have got GB update just in end of february, but they told taht it's already relased on 21 october
So If LG will make any ICS for P990 it may happen on 2013 i guess.
We just can pray and w8 for some people in LG will wakeup and strat to move their .. brains.
just wait and see, i do rather flash CM 9 unfortunately it's still RC but i believe that CM will be faster than LG
antec123 said:
just wait and see, i do rather flash CM 9 unfortunately it's still RC but i believe that CM will be faster than LG
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Its not going to be faster than LG they cant get real hw acceleration working without either the sources or something from lg... therefor....not faster.
I know exactly what's going on behind the scene. As I have worked a phone customer service before. This guy pays no to very little attention to the questions asked, that lazy bastard. He's having a talk and laugh with his coworkers. He simply put does not gives a rats ass. It's a matter of reconnecting until you have found a worthy agent.
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
downloadzy said:
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
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thank you capt. obvious
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thank you capt. obvious
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lol, well said!
You are very optimistic thinking that reached 4.1 1
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I disagree. It looks to me that LG won't even update our 4x to jelly bean.
Lg are bunch of noobs.
To lg - if you are planning to fight with the likes of Samsung/HTC - offer same type of service. Like Unlock tool for the bootloader. Or unlocked boot loader from factory. At least that way we can make our own way into future updates...
I hate myself for buying a lg! Wasn't even aware of locked boot loader. Next time I will sniff around1000 times before deciding to buy a lg.
How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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there are 10a to 10f firmware and i think the update only to solve the problem and i think there will be no update because they think they do a good job...... if they reliaze it!!
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Fixes are fine by my book, ICS is already a very good platform to use. Sure, JB brings more improvements but it is game changing compared to GB to ICS.
Can you show me the fix list? I've searched a lot on google but no one seems to have it..
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
Belteral said:
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
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1. LG Optimus Nexus is not a rumor, but true
2. Yeah, maybe they're working about something (i'm f*ckin optimistic)
Although, LG's software support is crap, i'd still choose their Hardware over HTC's. And, just being chose by Google as the manufacturer for their new flagship device...LG will hopefully get more love by devs. The Optimus 4x HD is a true beast, it's a shame that LG won't unleash its true capabilities. I've been contemplating in whether to get an O4x HD (price is soooo cheap) or just wait for the LG Nexus G (which is most likely what im guna do). Either way, my next phone will be an LG. For some reason, i've becomed very bored with Samsungs, especially with my S3.
LG is going to make a conference on 24-25 oct, hope we'll get some infos about updates
http://lgepr.lge.com/CommonEmailPopup.laf?pageFlag=Notice&sendId=2698*
LG need to much time, they will update.
Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 4.4 KK ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 5 KLP ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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Big "NO" to your question.
Must be enough
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Like what I said hit " Thanks" Button.
Lg service told me that the O4X would be upgraded to 4.2.2... But it is LG...
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LG cries ecause they are not top seller of smartphones, and samsung are. they think : *we dont need to do a better update politics because nobody.will buy our phones * stupid
lg see ? samsung always update their phones. lg 4x hd and galaxy.s3 are released.at the same time..galaxy s3 100% will get android 5 klp and 4x hd takes month to get 4.1 .... omg lg you stupid ... update all your phones and take care of your older flagships ... if.you update more people will buy your products and arent scared of your support and update polictics anymore !!!!
see people love samsung and apple because their support is a dream *o* galaxy s2 was released 2011 and still have the latest firmwares ... lg 2x takes about 1 year to get 4.0 .....noob lg i only.boughz 4x hd because it was cheap. and i thougtlht lg realized their fault and will update ...
noob tegra 3 noob lg support
lg should be closed and cyanogenmod should become a electronic firm and samsung should make a Samsung Galaxy 4X HD ...
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GalaxyVolvoZ said:
LG cries ecause they are not top seller of smartphones, and samsung are. they think : *we dont need to do a better update politics because nobody.will buy our phones * stupid
lg see ? samsung always update their phones. lg 4x hd and galaxy.s3 are released.at the same time..galaxy s3 100% will get android 5 klp and 4x hd takes month to get 4.1 .... omg lg you stupid ... update all your phones and take care of your older flagships ... if.you update more people will buy your products and arent scared of your support and update polictics anymore !!!!
see people love samsung and apple because their support is a dream *o* galaxy s2 was released 2011 and still have the latest firmwares ... lg 2x takes about 1 year to get 4.0 .....noob lg i only.boughz 4x hd because it was cheap. and i thougtlht lg realized their fault and will update ...
noob tegra 3 noob lg support
lg should be closed and cyanogenmod should become a electronic firm and samsung should make a Samsung Galaxy 4X HD ...
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Hey Guys, will LG release a offical Update for Android 4.2 or 4.3 or 5 KLP ? Because 20a is slow and i hate custom roms. I love the offical Version !
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no, i don't think so. i have had 3 lg phones and not any has been update. the only way for update your lg phone is with roms
Well lg 2x got two upgrades (2.3 and 4.0) so maybe lg 4x should recieve the upgrade to 4.2.2
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I currently own three android devices, LG optimus 4x HD, Samsung galaxy note 2 and sony xperia s. so i am browsing all three xda forums from time to time. how funny that every specific brand owners are dissatisfied with their own manufacturers by saying other brands update devices more frequently than theirs.. what they most said is: My next phone wont be "sony/LG/Samsung"!!!
The fact is: LG really update more than the rest i owned: 4 times firmware minor update + jelly bean update( i live in Netherlands). so at least LG is taking care of it. LG wont update our 4x hd forever, we will always want more and more anyway, so there is no ending...
I also want 4.2.2 or higher version without a doubt, but not desperately compare with other ppl.lets wait and see. And please stop spreading faulty information and misleading others. You should be responsible for what you said!! Lets hope we will get 4.2 or even higher, otherwise it is just a phone basically, be happy and enjoy what you have, its not so bad after all....
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I currently own three android devices, LG optimus 4x HD, Samsung galaxy note 2 and sony xperia s. so i am browsing all three xda forums from time to time. how funny that every specific brand owners are dissatisfied with their own manufacturers by saying other brands update devices more frequently than theirs.. what they most said is: My next phone wont be "sony/LG/Samsung"!!!
The fact is: LG really update more than the rest i owned: 4 times firmware minor update + jelly bean update( i live in Netherlands). so at least LG is taking care of it. LG wont update our 4x hd forever, we will always want more and more anyway, so there is no ending...
I also want 4.2.2 or higher version without a doubt, but not desperately compare with other ppl.lets wait and see. And please stop spreading faulty information and misleading others. You should be responsible for what you said!! Lets hope we will get 4.2 or even higher, otherwise it is just a phone basically, be happy and enjoy what you have, its not so bad after all....
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I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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Ab-so-f***ing-lute-ly
I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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Exactly!!! Cant agree more.:good: I think those thread should be eliminated...
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Ab-so-f***ing-lute-ly
I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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SimonTS said:
Ab-so-f***ing-lute-ly
I have said many times before. We bought our phones with ICS software on it. Nowhere did LG say that we would get free upgrades, they are only responsible for fixing bugs. If you are 'forced' to stick with ICS then it is fine for them as the phone still does EVERYTHING you bought it to do. The problems with 'Stock' JB go to show that they created it through good-will, to give the developers something to play with and to keep us guys/gals on places like XDA happy - 95% of the people who buy the phones couldn't care less about getting an upgrade to JB as long as the phone actually makes calls, does texts etc
The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?
If you don't like the phone then change it. If you don't like the manufacter then don't buy from them again, but unless you buy a Nexus product you will always suffer from delays in releasing new versions - the manufacturers don't make money from doing that so they will focus on new products that they can make money from.
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I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
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Why should you get special treatment just because you buy the 'flagship' model? You pay extra for the extra specifications, not in order to get a service contract entitling you to free upgrades - no matter what product you are buying that is the case.
Of course manufacturers expect you to buy a new shiny phone every 12 months - that's why they keep releasing them. They are in the business of making money, which they don't get from all the work involved in upgrading an old phone to a new software version.
You need to remember that we are in the minority, 95%+ of the people who buy phones don't care about upgrades, they just want something that works, and works well. Producing an upgrade almost always results in a software thart is not as stable as the original because they are, naturally, putting less effort in to creating it. I always find it surprising when someone comes on to XDA and says they don't want to put a custom ROM on their device - OK, so there are a few bits on here that aren't specifically about custom ROMs, but not much.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer gave free upgrades, but they never say they will and it certainly shouldn't be expected. Nexus devices are different as Google writes the Android software and has a business interest in ensuring they provide free and timely upgrades to show off the latest and greatest code.
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
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If you already knew that LG is always the last one to update their devices but why are you still buying it??? Personally I am also looking forwards to the updates, but I bought this phone because it has the good hardware, nice UI and relatively cheaper price when compare to S3 and HTC One X. You would be licking your finger to get a cheaper Chinese one, but you cant due to the availability cross western world. And dont insulting the chinese manufacture here because you know nothing about it...
"The arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. Can you imagine buying a PC And then demanding a free upgrade to Windows 8? Or buying a car and demanding a free upgrade to the newer engine type?"
I do not think arguments and *****ing on here against manufacturers is incredible. your statement about demanding a free upgrade to windows 8 is just wrong, windows operating systems are supported, updated with security fixes, refinements and enhancements for many years, as android users we seem to be forgotten about within the space of a few months, I do not expect to receive KLP or any other new system after that but we are still on Jelly Bean so we should expect to the have the refinements, fixes, security updates that are currently available, yes you are correct in saying this was an ICS phone but if LG make the statement that an upgrade to Jelly Bean would happen then we should expect supoort for it and this is the reason I purchased the phone. BTW Jelly Bean was not goodwill by LG, it was to sell more phones, if you really believe these companies are that nice to their customers you are being a little naive.
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Skyfall6 said:
If you already knew that LG is always the last one to update their devices but why are you still buying it??? Personally I am also looking forwards to the updates, but I bought this phone because it has the good hardware, nice UI and relatively cheaper price when compare to S3 and HTC One X. You would be licking your finger to get a cheaper Chinese one, but you cant due to the availability cross western world. And dont insulting the chinese manufacture here because you know nothing about it...
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I bought for the same reasons you bought yours
Relative cheap compared to the One X and S3,very good hardware too
Anyone with an above average computer knowledge knows software is still playing catch to hardware which has always evolved faster
Only now to see the greed of capitalism starring at us all with their stoppage of updates after 1 or 2 update releases
Too bad
Some Chinese names like Pipo and Onda for tablets stand out
Also names like Jiayu and Zopo are one to look out for in high end Phones
That some Chinese brand gadgets don't cut it don't mean ALL Chinese brands
Personally, I'm using a Pipo Max M9 quad core tablet and why the software could have been better written to amplify its hardware,I could not ask for a better made premium look and feel tablets without breaking my piggy bank
Below are the Antutu scores which I ran myself
(Update: could not up load the image. Don't know why but the Antutu scores was 16104 thrashing S3,Nexus 7 and 10 and been at par with the Note 2' That should increase if overclocked)
SimonTS said:
Why should you get special treatment just because you buy the 'flagship' model? You pay extra for the extra specifications, not in order to get a service contract entitling you to free upgrades - no matter what product you are buying that is the case.
Of course manufacturers expect you to buy a new shiny phone every 12 months - that's why they keep releasing them. They are in the business of making money, which they don't get from all the work involved in upgrading an old phone to a new software version.
You need to remember that we are in the minority, 95%+ of the people who buy phones don't care about upgrades, they just want something that works, and works well. Producing an upgrade almost always results in a software thart is not as stable as the original because they are, naturally, putting less effort in to creating it. I always find it surprising when someone comes on to XDA and says they don't want to put a custom ROM on their device - OK, so there are a few bits on here that aren't specifically about custom ROMs, but not much.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer gave free upgrades, but they never say they will and it certainly shouldn't be expected. Nexus devices are different as Google writes the Android software and has a business interest in ensuring they provide free and timely upgrades to show off the latest and greatest code.
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I don't think its too much if other manufacturers could follow Google's lead
After all, the Nexus products are in the top end of the tablet and smartphone food chain
Its not to much to ask for 3-4 updates for the flagship/top end gadgets
Recall asking for more led Oliver Twist out of his life of deprivation to a more structured one
Not every market follows the Western nations model of phone contracts rather you have an outright purchase
But knowing an economy like America of which 70% is based on consumer spending is the model run by many Western states,I expect them to continue their shiny and best,latest and new policy
Hopefully the top end Chinese gadgets makers can throw in the cat amongst the pigeons
But till then,its gonna be the same ol same ol
my view from outside
lg~optimusprime said:
I do not entirely lean towards your viewpoint nor do I think the car analogy is apt to this discussion
If all we wanted to use our phones for was make calls and send texts,I'd agree whole heartedly nor would we have to fork out insane amounts for most flagships
In that case,why not let us make do with cheap Chinese Android clones
This phone was one of 2012`s top end phones along with the S3 and HTC One X
Even at that LG was one of the last brand names to release a JB update
To think support for a flagship is/will be ending after an update or two is extortion IMHO seeing all they have to do is find a way to port it on older flagships
Or do the phone makers expect us to buy every shiny and new gadget every 6-12 months because official updates have stopped?
I personally do not expect updates for the mid and low end phones
But if one buys a top end flagship, such a person should get treatment setting them apart
@ the creator of this thread,its wishful thing to be lusting for KLP when 4.2.2 or 4.3 is yet to drop for 4X HD
I think 4.2.2 may drop officially for 4x hd and that will be it
Most of the top end brands are pushing 2 and 3 GB memory phones out for now and KLP devices will probably have such specs
Recall the 4x HD has just 1GB ram
You might have to look at the custom ROMs you despise for KLP
Sorry
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i've owned an HTC, an Huawei and now a Motorola... while atm considering to buy the p880.
It seems to me that LG is kind of more reasonable in all terms of product-strategy than maybe HTC, Samsung, or Motorola. They have a wide range of phones, but those are at the same time not like "me too" models like Samsung's, who has phones for absolutely everey demand.
And they still sell phones like the L3.
That makes me hope the p880 has a kind of long planned product cycle too and they'll release 4.3 for the p880, because it has BT4.0 hardware, which will only be supported by Android 4.3 and up. and it's still jelly bean. so perhaps it makes sense to skip 4.2 and get 4.3 instead, which also seem to get far better multi core support...
but nonetheless it's nice to have 4.1 sources released, so it's possible to finetune.
stat'o'flow said:
i've owned an HTC, an Huawei and now a Motorola... while atm considering to buy the p880.
It seems to me that LG is kind of more reasonable in all terms of product-strategy than maybe HTC, Samsung, or Motorola. They have a wide range of phones, but those are at the same time not like "me too" models like Samsung's, who has phones for absolutely everey demand.
And they still sell phones like the L3.
That makes me hope the p880 has a kind of long planned product cycle too and they'll release 4.3 for the p880, because it has BT4.0 hardware, which will only be supported by Android 4.3 and up. and it's still jelly bean. so perhaps it makes sense to skip 4.2 and get 4.3 instead, which also seem to get far better multi core support...
but nonetheless it's nice to have 4.1 sources released, so it's possible to finetune.
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I like your thinkwise ! thank u, the hope die at last ! LG for the win ! 4X HD have potencial.
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Any rumors circulating yet anywhere about an upgrade from 4.1.2? The battery life is really bad.
I've done everything I can to maximize it. (Install root, juice defender, un-install certain system apps, turn off location reporting in GMaps, keep screen brightness at 50%, etc...)
Hoping an official LG update will help out some time in the near future. I'd like to see 4.2 or 4.3 in Q4 this year. But I have no idea if that will happen or not. Phone is awesome, just really let down by battery life on JB.
Why not oppen a request for lg?
Look the htc one s : https://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x