ok - I am not given to fits of anger or anything but this has really gotten me to a boil:
THE SEARCHING FUNCTIONALITY IN THESE FORUMS IS PATHETIC!
phew - sorry but I really needed to get that off my chest...
it seems more the norm than the exception that forums have ridiculously inadequate search functions but this one takes the cake!
I understand all the "search the forums" "read this thread:" etc comments from the veterans that see the same question asked time and again but hey - YOU try searching for something in a million posts with a search that brings up either EVERY post under the sun or NONE!
it's like trying to read through all of these just to find one thing!
I know there's nothing that anyone will do about this, but I just HAD TO VENT!
yorgo said:
ok - I am not given to fits of anger or anything but this has really gotten me to a boil:
THE SEARCHING FUNCTIONALITY IN THESE FORUMS IS PATHETIC!
phew - sorry but I really needed to get that off my chest...
it seems more the norm than the exception that forums have ridiculously inadequate search functions but this one takes the cake!
I understand all the "search the forums" "read this thread:" etc comments from the veterans that see the same question asked time and again but hey - YOU try searching for something in a million posts with a search that brings up either EVERY post under the sun or NONE!
it's like trying to read through all of these just to find one thing!
I know there's nothing that anyone will do about this, but I just HAD TO VENT!
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Try this.
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Try this.
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an easier way to do that is....
in google just type what you want to search for and add site:forum.xda-developers.com
ie: 'voip sip settings site:forum.xda-developers.com'
that works for me because i like to minimize clicking
p.s. the blame should be put on vbulletin
search works just fine when i use it
I used the Search ones to find my car keys... and it couldn't find them .. The search SUCKS!
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Mike,
Don't you know searching for LOL will turn up 9,945,325,440 search results here?
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LOL, but seriously this is sort of a nuisance. Trying to search os.nb to find all info about this format and nothing comes up. Thanks @ TaurusBullba for that method of search. Give google a few years and they'll even be able to find that chic you hooked up with during Spring Break 7 years ago
how do i search a specific phrase? quotation marks seems to have no effect here on this forum's search!! like:
"gprs stays on"
i would get results with GPRS, or some posts where says STAYS or even ON !!! i can't get it to return specific searches returning only posts where it returns results with the entire quote (yes i know there is google, but i'm sure that option is here on the forum's search or is it?)
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lol you obviously didnt read carefully what i said, i know about Taurusbulba's post on page one, i'm saying was there anyway to do it without using google to search within forum.xda-developers.com and only using the forum's original search engine to do exact phrase searches.
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There is a limitation within the forum's native site search. It is what it is. However, the admin is aware of the MANY requests from users and moderators alike regarding the, often times, poor search results.
If the forum's search code is changed to make the search results more relevant, it will definitely be conveyed to everyone on the front page, I'm sure.
In the meantime, the best way to get what you're looking for is to use Google search. You may want to bookmark this to make getting to it a bit quicker.
Mike has also been generous enough to sticky Google's search links in many forums here already too.
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There is a limitation within the forum's native site search. It is what it is. However, the admin is aware of the MANY requests from users and moderators alike regarding the, often times, poor search results.
If the forum's search code is changed to make the search results more relevant, it will definitely be conveyed to everyone on the front page, I'm sure.
In the meantime, the best way to get what you're looking for is to use Google search. You may want to bookmark this to make getting to it a bit quicker.
Mike has also been generous enough to sticky Google's search links in many forums here already too.
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i see well it's a great forum nonetheless, i love this place
a good way is to use AND OR NOT the good old boolean expresion to filter ones searchs
Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
search and read before you get flamed
You have to install hard-spl (in the Kaiser ROM Development section) by pof/olipro. Once you do that, find the rom you want, download it, and run the RUU.
It involves 2 paperclips and a wall socket, if you would like to proceed let me know.
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+1 well said....
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Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
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i'd think twice about a semi-noob...i think u've just upgraded urself to a full noob....
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LOL...u cant be serious
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I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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rofl......no way!!!!
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I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Then you searched the wrong forum. This one has over 1.5 MILLION Posts.
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I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Maybe he searched for the text string "anything"???
Nope. I tried that and got...
Results 1 - 10 of about 65,400 from forum.xda-developers.com for "anything". (0.22 seconds)
Maybe he (or she) should try this sticky at the top of the Kaiser General page on searching...
Kaiser and other Searches
From noob to noob
I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
i don't think denco most of us here rely on "oem" official upgrades .. none the less searching and reading than searching some more and than some more reading and than memorizing what you have read is a MUST >.. so happy reading.
What?
While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
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Maybe, However I don't think a developers/enthusiasts forum is the best place to ask.
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While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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So he feels a sense of belonging after a few weeks nothing wrong with that. Also a forum is not defined by its number of members, but its number of active members and the mission statement made by the Founders.
Mission Statement:
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
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well...if the OP..not necessarily this one but all others too...if they have the time to post this question which may have been posted and asked several million times...then they have the time to search and find out for themselves..thats why the search button is there..
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Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Those that have tried have never been back for a second attempt. Of that, you can be sure.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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My problem is not with reminding people to search,some of my answers to posts have also included gentle reminders to search followed by helpful ( I hope ) answers. My problem is with flaming people before clarifying the question. I "did" a forum search on an MS upgrade for 6.0 on a TILT before I decided to speak up and found nothing pertaining to the tilt. " How do you install Windows Mobile 6.1 on a Tilt? " " There is no 6.1 yet. " How hard is that? I have been programming for 33 yrs, I started out on a key punch terminal and then fed hundreds of punch cards into a reel to reel magnetic tape " processor " the size of most people's living rooms. My first in a long line of PDAs and smart phones, was an Apple Newton. I may be an idiot, but not from lack of experience. Exactly when did people get so full of themselves. But this is not " my " forum so I guess I should just butt out.
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To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Shame on me? Shame on you sir. This forum is filled with very usefull and important information. People just need to look for it. If we allow every Tom, ****, and Bob, to post threads willy-nilly without remand or maintaining some flow. The forum become deluted with crap, the information will be impossible to find. And our key smart people will leave. Then we might as well change the Topic of this forum to "Talking about the OC."
The Mods have said their piece on this, I personally have been following their wishes. I recommend everyone else does too.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Maybe I should have been more clear. I know this is a Users Forum. Given the Typical Popular Topics I might say "Power User." Still The Mission Statement put forth by the Founders says users forum, not Free Technical Support Forum. Giving someone some Support and doing the researchfor them without thanks at two totally separate things. You need to learn to have a little thicker skin. I didn't say Snotty Developers Forum.
Fine you know what, you want to be an ass about all this, since I appear to be the only one of this opinion. That opinion of use "search" first, and start a new thread as a last resort. Here you go then....
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Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Its Really Quite Easy. Place HardSPL on your device. Heres the thread for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then look through here to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 Based Custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
If you are looking for the Offical Windows Mobile 6.1 from Microsoft, I'm not sure. Maybe you should check their website. http://www.microsoft.com
Hello. I`m new to this forum. Found a lot of useful stuff and understood a lot. I`m new in smartphones. It takes a lot of searching around to find what you can actually do with your XDA.
I think it would be great if somebody will do some kind of a noob dictionary and how it works. How to change skin, menu, input method, what is it flashing and so on. It took me couple hours on this forum to actually understand the possibilities of smartphone. I came here when searching for new way of input method and found tons of another unbelievable and useful stuff.
So I`m asking: is here somebody with some spare time and so kind to do a noob proof guide and dictionary for new smartphone users?
The possibilities are unbelievable. It just takes hours of searching to find and understand how
By the way sorry for my English. I`m not from english speaking country.
Does somebody else think it would be great?
Hi,
Look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Scroll down and you will find a glossary/dictionary for noobs near the bottom of the page. As you are scrolling down, you can also click on the picture of your device and it will take you to a page with all sorts of information about your device.
The xda wiki is a great source for the basics. You can find everything you need to know about flashing your phone, etc.
i dont know how much difficult to make an assortment the roms under rom developement section according to wm types and manila types. But it shall be very helpfull for everyone to find roms what they'd like.
Just a suggestion,
I think you should just try them all and make your own mind, they all have strengths and weaknessess and besides that some are updated every 2-3 days. Did you notice any other thrread like this one? there's many and they closed often too.
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I think you should just try them all and make your own mind, they all have strengths and weaknessess and besides that some are updated every 2-3 days. Did you notice any other thrread like this one? there's many and they closed often too.
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Hello
He isnt asking for an opinion if i am not mistaken he is saying that it is hard for him to see and find the different versions and roms when looking for one.
ycyaksi: a thread has been started on this exact subject you can see it here.
Jay
j1978 said:
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He isnt asking for an opinion if i am not mistaken he is saying that it is hard for him to see and find the different versions and roms when looking for one.
ycyaksi: a thread has been started on this exact subject you can see it here.
Jay
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thank you for a correct address
you've written exactly what i meant
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He isnt asking for an opinion if i am not mistaken he is saying that it is hard for him to see and find the different versions and roms when looking for one.
ycyaksi: a thread has been started on this exact subject you can see it here.
Jay
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Well we were (if I am not mistaken) given a brain and eyes and with the help of high protein meats etc eventually aquired self awareness now with that said how difficult is it to read and then search and then read some more! you even pointed out that there's a thread jsut like this one.
I am a noob too and I have the right to give my opinion and my opinion is that this thread doesnt belong here! I say bad luck if he's finding it hard to understand, if he doesnt understand then he needs to read more, simple as that!
You said it. Use the Search bar and visit often.
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Well we were (if I am not mistaken) given a brain and eyes and with the help of high protein meats etc eventually aquired self awareness now with that said how difficult is it to read and then search and then read some more! you even pointed out that there's a thread jsut like this one.
I am a noob too and I have the right to give my opinion and my opinion is that this thread doesnt belong here! I say bad luck if he's finding it hard to understand, if he doesnt understand then he needs to read more, simple as that!
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I Agree to what you said mate.
I just downloaded boot animation changer from the market the other day and I haven't been able to find any boot screens to actually use on my n1. Is there any website that maybe has a bunch? maybe someone can point me in the right direction so that I can make my own? a diy perhaps? thanks for any help
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I just downloaded boot animation changer from the market the other day and I haven't been able to find any boot screens to actually use on my n1. Is there any website that maybe has a bunch? maybe someone can point me in the right direction so that I can make my own? a diy perhaps? thanks for any help
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Have u tried searching this site using boot animation? I did and came up with a variant of CM's boot up screen. I am using the one where the android is dropping boxes to spell out CyanogenMod. Now I love to reboot the phone lol...
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have u tried searching this site using boot animation?
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nnnnnnnope
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this website doesn't have a section dedicated to boot screens...if it does please link me to the section. I'm looking for a collection of android boot screens all in one place. I don't want to hunt and peck through threads looking for them. I'm hoping there is some where on the internet with some sort of organization similar to sidekick themes for instance.
geezzz, noobs!
You should search. Really.
This has been discussed countless times before.
This website doesn't NEED a dedicated section for boot animations.
What you will find, if you had bothered to visually scan the Nexus One forums, is a sub-forum titled: Nexus One Themes and Apps.
Within there I found these threads:
nexus one boot animation the attached file that you find there is a zip file. Unzip that to your computer, and browse the two folders it contains. That should give you an idea of how they are made.
[Boot Animations] & [Live Wallpapers] Nexus Holiday in a variety of colors more here with preview animations, so you can choose before you download.
{MOD} Bootanimation [Blade, Laser, Blazer] *Six6Sicks* 7/25/10 has a Cyanogen style to it. I like this alot!
After following those above, you should check out: [SCRIPT] Random Boot Animations v1.3 (Updated 2010-04-20, works on CM 5.0.6-5.0.8).
I haven't used the tool/script mentioned here.
But in the first post, you'll come across SAMPLE LIST OF BOOT ANIMATIONS. You'll find eight links to others.
(i bookmarked it. i actually would not have found it if i didnt search)
On a different subject, Live Wall Papers. Everyone loves them.
You might want to make your own.
[Live Wallpaper] Custom Creater 2.6 [SCRIPT] [WINDOWS]
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... I don't want to hunt and peck through threads looking for them ...
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I hunted and I pecked, and look at what I found!?
I'm going to call you lazy.
I'm going to call you a newb.
Don't be offended.
I've helped you alot more here than others probably would have.
You may even get more help. But really seeking, you aren't the first nor the last member wanting help to make their own bootanimation.
The information for this and countless other Android™ related projects are out there. They're in here. You just gotta invest in the time it takes to find them, just as I've invested the time and patience it took to copy/paste all those links for you.
PAY IT FORWARD, help someone else out.
If you find something worth sharing, please come back to this thread and post it.
Some other newb may need it.
Hey, I appreciate that you are trying to help me, but I've gone through all of this. I've been using xda since the original tmobile mda on windows mobile. Searching is nothing new to me, especially on the updated vbulliten version of this place.
This is not a matter of being a "newb" or being lazy. This is me asking a question (in the questions and answer forum) about any websites other than xda that might have a collection of boot screens similar to how the sidekick had a website that had nothing but themes.
I know its "cool" to tell people to search and to call them newbies (even when they hae been members longer than you) but you are completley missing the point of this thread.
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... you are completley missing the point of this thread.
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I apologize for missing the point of this thread.
If my information hasn't helped you, I hope it will help others seeking this information.