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Hey guys, I'm a developer on the Samsung Fascinate. I developed the Blackhole Custom rom for it. Basically what Blackhole is, is a stripped-down version of the stock rom with almost nothing pre-installed. After installing the base you are able to select what else you want to install, and what you don't. I'm thinking about branching out some and would like to know if there is anyone interested in something like this for the vibrant. If you want to see some details and feedback from users on the fascinate check out www.androiddoes.net/sonofskywalker3, or the Fascinate development boards here on XDA.
Heres an overview of how it works (on the fascinate, and eventually vibrant if there's anyone who wants me to port it):
Open ROM manager
Select Download ROM
Select Sonofskywalker3
Choose Blackhole Custom ROM
Choose a Bootanimation
Choose a Calendar App
Choose a Desk Clock app
Choose a Kernel
Choose a Launcher
Choose a Theme
Choose any extra programs, mods, live wallpapers, or other extras you want installed with the ROM
Reboot to install
And once it's installed, my section of ROM manager will be full of different flashable options, so if you decide you want to change to something else, you can.
This way you can have a phone with exactly what you want, and nothing else on it, to save space and battery life.
Since I don't have a Vibrant myself I will need a few Beta testers before I can release a public build. So please, if this sounds like something you would want on your phone, let me know. If there's no desire for something like this on the vibrant, just ignore this thread and it will get buried.
Thank you for your time.
What build is this based off of?
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What build is this based off of?
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It would be based on the stock JK6 froyo link sombionix posted.
This definitely sounds interesting. I would be happy to participate but I'll be out of the country for a few weeks.
Ashex1 said:
This definitely sounds interesting. I would be happy to participate but I'll be out of the country for a few weeks.
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Well thank you for your opinion, and i appreciate the offer. maybe when you get back it'll be ready to go =)
I might be intestested....sounds like a interesting concept for a rom.
I'm interested... I flash my vibrant when i find a suitable rom, but hate the bloatware. let me know...
count me in
my phone is jumping to have it..comeon...send me
ok, well there does seem to be some interest, so i'll get to work on this right away. If anyone wants to beta test for me i'll set up an IRC channel on freenode tonight and post the name in here when i'm ready to get started. as i said, I don't have this phone, so the first few versions are very likely to not work =) only join me if you are ready, willing and able to download and flash several attempts, understand ADB and odin (Just in case), and have a nandroid backup you can revert to. also it's best not to get your expectations too high just yet, because it works wonderfully in ROM manager, but doesn't quite shine when you have to install each package one at a time
I'm intrigued and interested. I'll give it a go
You can count me in, this sounds like an awesome project.
Hit me up I'm up for testing...
I'm intrigued as well would be happy to beta test this. m00n
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Beta
I'll beta test. This sounds pretty cool
Sounds cool and if you can keep up with the mods that keep coming out this sound like it can really be something.
Like the idea
I hate bloatware i'm interested
Actually, if eventually the link could provide it in this menu format I think most advanced users would like it
I ll keep my eye out for it
Slap my mouth wide open, i'm in!!!
Just to give you guys an idea of the scope of the project for the fascinate, here is my existing rom manager manifest. if you don't understand everything that's going on, just mainly look for the stuff in quotes. I started this about a month ago and it's grown almost constantly. I'm still adding stuff to it also, and if this takes off i'd love for the vibrant port to get the same number of choices.
http://www.androiddoes.net/sonofskywalker3/Manifest/Sonofskywalker3_Manifest.js
This sounds awesome. Make it happen!
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Let me preface this by saying that I have nothing but the utmost respect for the dev community (NC and otherwise) and I really don't mean to step on any toes with this. I'm fairly new at all this and I've got some questions.
Alright, so as we've all heard by now, Google (whether their reasons are benevolent or not) are withholding the AOSP release of Honeycomb and that kind of rains on everyone's nook color parade. We've got a mostly working port of HC that kind of sags in the performance area. Its almost been enough to make me flash Gingerbread but there are a few things - namely the browser, email app, soft keys and notification system - that I'd miss. The new + screen is nice, but I've been using launcher pro as it runs seemingly faster than the stock launcher, so I'm already missing out on that.
Now, from what I understand, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, deeperblue's HC port uses parts of Gingerbread to make everything all hunky dory.
My question is this; would a viable solution to slow HC performance be to make a new rom and pump MORE Gingerbread in? i.e. Take HC's notification system replace GB's phone-style notification pane. Make it mostly gingerbread with some tablet friendly nip/tucks here and there.
I realize there are things like softkeys and the bottom taskbar mod, but HC's handling of the android buttons and the new notification system is just so appealing. Its making the choice of which rom to run unduly difficult. And while I can't cook a rom, I'm hoping someone who can sees this and runs with it, if it is feasible, that is.
Truthfully... It's up in the air like everything else, unless a DEV directly comes out of the shadows and saids, hey i'm going to do it... Then we just won't know. Honestly, I'm sad that we won't see HC right around the corner, but CM7 is pretty awesome. And the Xoom is scheduled to drop down to $599 (Wifi only) today, making it a lot more competitive than the 3g.
That's not to say that I personally have $599 to drop and go buy a new tablet, but it does mean that you'll probably see them on craigslist or ebay in a few months for a bit cheaper. =\
The honey comb preview is awsome but to many apps don't work.
Tyfighter said:
My question is this; would a viable solution to slow HC performance be to make a new rom and pump MORE Gingerbread in?
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That was kinda the plan. CM7 development was going in a way that all the improvements (Bluetooth, partially working DSP, an accelerated interface) were going to be directly ported to Honeycomb once the source released. But without the source, that can't happen.
Basically Google has completely screwed any Nook Color fans wanting Honeycomb.
The only improvement that can be made is that a ROM could be made from the final SDK. That would be just as laggy, and will lack new features (Bluetooth, DSP, etc.), but it would be able to use Android tablet apps.
From the conversation about Google's move on the net, many are saying there won't be a Honeycomb source at all, and the next source dump will come with Ice Cream months from now.
So Honeycomb fans have a choice- either try out the CM7 modification that you talked about to make CM7 more Honeycomb-like, or start saving up for that Xoom...
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The honey comb preview is awsome but to many apps don't work.
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what apps dont work? most of the major ones have worked for me so far...
im finding that the hc rom is very usable for a daily driver...although bluetooth and dsp support would be very nice...
nolook said:
what apps dont work? most of the major ones have worked for me so far...
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Any Tablet app that requires the final SDK version (aka all those Xoom apps) won't work on our preview build.
poofyhairguy said:
Any Tablet app that requires the final SDK version (aka all those Xoom apps) won't work on our preview build.
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Thank you for your informative reply.
It seems now that my best bet is going to be t see what the cm7 guys cook up. Hopefully this aosp business will spark some of the innovation that the android community is known for. I'd love to help, but its not exactly my forte
With regards to what apps aren't working, my marketplace only seems to intall apps when the stars are right. I often have to attempt an install upwards of five times to have it succeed, if it even does. Otherwise i get insufficient storage errors or indeterminate error 18
sorry if i am hijacking this a bit, but i had thought that android was 'open source'. why the change in the plans to not release hc? is this to protect the hw manufacturers like mot who have hc on the xoom, and freeze out users who want it ported non supported platforms? Otherwise, I can't understand the logic.
I got the nc cause i had thought it had the best $/performance of any android based tablet. For half the price of others, it had great screen, and forgetting bt, etc., nice hw specs. With hc, it would be fantastic!
How else to counter ipads if not to get hc on as many tablets as possible?
I wonder if the fact that the playbook is running our apps has anything to do with it. If so, I don't mind anything that makes it rough for RIM.
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sorry if i am hijacking this a bit, but i had thought that android was 'open source'. why the change in the plans to not release hc? is this to protect the hw manufacturers like mot who have hc on the xoom, and freeze out users who want it ported non supported platforms? Otherwise, I can't understand the logic.
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It is open source and it WILL be released however at this time they don't think it's ready for final release (I've heard of various tweaks they need to make in the xoom) and are working those out prior to releasing it to devs
Hello all,
I'm new to android and my new AT&T vivid, I'm coming from iOS and really like my vivid so far. It is a little buggier than iOS but I do like it so far. I'd like to load up ICS but apparently that Rom isn't there yet. However, holiraider looks like a good start for me but I can't seem to find a straight forward howto. I've got plenty of computer experience with OS X, Linux and winbloze. I don't want to loose my LTE but I would like a ROM that allows a permanent root. Stock ICS would be. nice. If anyone could recommend a good free launcher other than sense 3.5 that would be great! Thanks in Advanced! Any advice would be greatly appreciated....just don't want to brick this thing!
MeeGz
Adw luancher there is a free and paid version and there is a how to guide under stickies in vivid android dev. Section that should help u with rooting and flashing custom roms, kernals ect...its pretty easy if u follow word for word
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MeeGz said:
Hello all,
I'm new to android and my new AT&T vivid, I'm coming from iOS and really like my vivid so far. It is a little buggier than iOS but I do like it so far. I'd like to load up ICS but apparently that Rom isn't there yet. However, holiraider looks like a good start for me but I can't seem to find a straight forward howto. I've got plenty of computer experience with OS X, Linux and winbloze. I don't want to loose my LTE but I would like a ROM that allows a permanent root. Stock ICS would be. nice. If anyone could recommend a good free launcher other than sense 3.5 that would be great! Thanks in Advanced! Any advice would be greatly appreciated....just don't want to brick this thing!
MeeGz
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I prefer GoLauncher EX, it's free and arguably the best out of all the launchers, definitely best out of all the free launchers IMO. It also has free ICS themes, just search for them on the market, read the reviews to find the best one. Then if you want to go even further, download an app called "font changer". Then find the font online called "Roboto" (should be a ttf file) and move it to your font changer folder. Then go into font changer and select the roboto font. Reboot your phone for all the effects to take place, and you'll be pretty damn close to ICS.
Oh, and don't you dare ever refer to windows as winbloze ever again.
thx
Thanks for the replies that "super guide" Is helpful at the least. I'm really hoping for stock ICS. Coming from iOS this is pretty f'in buggy. I'm hoping stock ics is a bit better or at least in a week or two when the update comes out it will be better. Any more thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!
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MeeGz said:
Thanks for the replies that "super guide" Is helpful at the least. I'm really hoping for stock ICS. Coming from iOS this is pretty f'in buggy. I'm hoping stock ics is a bit better or at least in a week or two when the update comes out it will be better. Any more thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Was pressing quote but accidentally thanked you...you're welcome for the random thanks
ICS looks like it is still weeks away, and that's the version with Sense. Not quite sure when a vanilla version will be available. I personally found the stock version pretty crappy myself as I would get random reboots. If you are looking for much much better performance and stability, pretty much any of the custom roms available will make you happy. I am personally running the latest WCX at the moment as it is setup perfectly for AT&T's network and is very smooth even with sense. If you're liking the phone now, just wait until you load up one of these custom roms, night and day...
Youssarian said:
Android ICS Roboto Font Download and Info Link:
http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html
Winbloze....Winbloze.... Winbloze....
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OoOoO nice link, Im too lazy when I'm on my phone to go find one lol
Oh please, windows is the bomb, I mean... just look at vista for example, greatest OS ever to come out.
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Thanks for all of the speedy replies. I must say coming from iOS where everything was fairly consolidated there is certainly a plethora of information here as well as options. I've been doing some reading up, but if somebody could point me to a general but COMPREHENSIVE overview of rooting/installing custom ROMs/etc. that would be awesome! Also I've noticed there are a few ROMs available for the vivid, i'd love to hear peoples advice on what the "best" is and their experiences. While I am aware of some the benefits of rooting what are some of the really cool things that can be done as a result? Ie - I really love the cube page transition in Sense, on iOS I used a jailbreak tweak called barrel to get that transition amongst many others. Is there any way to get the cube transition in ADW? This is an entirely new platform for me and I'm way behind the curve. As a side note I've never been an ardent user of just one platform, I use what I like and what fits my needs. I've never really understood the whole "my os of choice is the best and everything else sucks" thing. Each platfor. Has its strengths and weaknesses. If I could afford it is probably have them all, mobile and DT/LT! Hell, I'll probably buy an iPad 3! I also see WebOS as being an excellent platform, hopefully HP will open source it and a couple big OEMs like HTC and the like will pick it up because from what I've read the TP's performance under WO is just plain sad...
</end rant>]
I have a few more questions before I make the leap to buy my first ever Android based device.
The Questions:
Will Rooting make my phone more susceptible to being Hijacked/Hacked /Virus?..so on. I presume its no, but security is nothing to play with. Does McAfee have an App? (That was a joke)
Is there currently anything I should stay way from that doesn't currently work or isn't stable with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?
Will Adobes Apps (Photoshop Touch for example) work on the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000? I ask this because said app is made for a tablet...but the GALAXY NOTE isn't your average tablet since it's a phone? It meets the resolution requirements... just not the size. Hence the confusion. This kind of thing is actually my biggest query at the moment...perhaps I should broaden the question...If it is made for a standard tablet, will it work with this sort of tablet?Would Paranoid Android assist me in this concern? (I think it would based on what I have seen)
Once I have rooted- is there any way for ME to customize the UI and how the hardware (such as GPS and Ram) functions. As you may have gathered I know my away around Adobe Suite and I could at the very least do some of that... or do I just have to...ugh...what's the jargon word...
Flash the Rom with someone else's handy work?
Does anyone have a recommendations on where I should buy the Unlocked SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000 Note? I just want to know the options I may have other than Amazon, Ebay, or Expansys.
- Doesn't really matter anymore. If anyone would still like to answer it -here it is.
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You all (well most) have been very helpful. I know the main purpose of this site is Modding Android (or at least the phones they come on) , and not to play 20 questions with the noob who doesn't even have the device yet!
So - Thank you for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated!
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Edit3: Found Answer to "Will THIS root method work with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?" The answer is yes.
Bump!
This is the last time I intend to bump this (not that I wanted to in the first place). If this is truly meant to drift off unanswered than so be it.
I just hope that in the event of something horrible (or at least unknown) occurring to my phone that I can search the answer...since asking doesn't seem to be working at the moment.
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Read the last report of fsecure, it dont matter if you are root, just as vulnarable. Malware bring their own beer to the party. Depends on enduser
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I figured as much.
Ill go read the last report of fsecure right now. ^____^
Thanks.(..and feel free to answer more questions )
CrazyOGuy said:
I figured as much.
Ill go read the last report of fsecure right now. ^____^
Thanks.(..and feel free to answer more questions )
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Ok, if you can download it, Adobe it should work. You can try a custom rom which supports tablet mode should you not be able to download with normal dpi. That will enable tablet mode in market, after clearing market data and reboot it should become available for dl.
Currently there are a couple good stock ICS roms and a couple good custom roms. All (except cm9 xplodwild is safe, not other cm9) kernels are dangerous due to Brickrisk of known bug. However, all cm9 based suffer the bugs of cm9, speakerphone broken, high battery consumption, etc. Most have their own bugs on top.
Now ICS source is out wait a couple days as more custom roms and kernels will be build as well as bugfixes. And off course, support the devs with donations for coffee, so they stay awake and make no errors lmao .
I love this community, enjoy
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CrazyOGuy said:
I have a few more questions before I make the leap to buy my first ever Android based device.
The Questions:
Will Rooting make my phone more susceptible to being Hijacked/Hacked /Virus?..so on. I presume its no, but security is nothing to play with. Does McAfee have an App? (That was a joke)
Is there currently anything I should stay way from that doesn't currently work or isn't stable with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?
Will Adobes Apps (Photoshop Touch for example) work on the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000? I ask this because said app is made for a tablet...but the GALAXY NOTE isn't your average tablet since it's a phone? It meets the resolution requirements... just not the size. Hence the confusion. This kind of thing is actually my biggest query at the moment...perhaps I should broaden the question...If it is made for a standard tablet, will it work with this sort of tablet?Would Paranoid Android assist me in this concern? (I think it would based on what I have seen)
Once I have rooted- is there any way for ME to customize the UI and how the hardware (such as GPS and Ram) functions. As you may have gathered I know my away around Adobe Suite and I could at the very least do some of that... or do I just have to...ugh...what's the jargon word...
Flash the Rom with someone else's handy work?
Does anyone have a recommendations on where I should buy the Unlocked SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000 Note? I just want to know the options I may have other than Amazon, Ebay, or Expansys.
- Doesn't really matter anymore. If anyone would still like to answer it -here it is.
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You all (well most) have been very helpful. I know the main purpose of this site is Modding Android (or at least the phones they come on) , and not to play 20 questions with the noob who doesn't even have the device yet!
So - Thank you for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated!
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1. No. Truth is, root or no root, you are equally vulnerable to malware. Just read the reviews and all before installing any, you know, 'unknown' app.
2. Wiping, factory resets and CWM. Although this is just for stock German ICS and older ICS ROMs like Stunner. New ROMs like Paranoid, CM9 are safe. Still in case you must search before you do anything with custom ROMs just to be on the safe side.
3. Can't find Photoshop Touch on the play store. But there must be a work around am sure. I am using Paranoid by the way.
4. You can pretty much flash a custom ROM and flash various themes and things. Don't know about RAM but you can over clock or under clock your processor. There are various tweaks scattered so just search for it and more often than not you will find it. Carbon tweaks are really good. Search them in themes and apps.
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baz77 said:
Ok, if you can download it, Adobe it should work. You can try a custom rom which supports tablet mode should you not be able to download with normal dpi. That will enable tablet mode in market, after clearing market data and reboot it should become available for dl.
Tablet Mode. Ill look out for that in the features.
Currently there are a couple good stock ICS roms and a couple good custom roms. All (except cm9 xplodwild is safe, not other cm9) kernels are dangerous due to Brickrisk of known bug. However, all cm9 based suffer the bugs of cm9, speakerphone broken, high battery consumption, etc. Most have their own bugs on top.
Brick Risk Eh?...Well this is why I ask these things. Ill stay away from cm9/kernels. I know enough now that it looks like can look into some custom roms with a *little* more on the ball.
Now ICS source is out wait a couple days as more custom roms and kernels will be build as well as bugfixes. And off course, support the devs with donations for coffee, so they stay awake and make no errors lmao .
I love this community, enjoy
As far as communities go Its not that bad...if you can get a reply.
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1. No. Truth is, root or no root, you are equally vulnerable to malware. Just read the reviews and all before installing any, you know, 'unknown' app. What happens if root malware tries to root me. Must go deeper /s
2. Wiping, factory resets and CWM. Although this is just for stock German ICS and older ICS ROMs like Stunner. New ROMs like Paranoid, CM9 are safe. Still in case you must search before you do anything with custom ROMs just to be on the safe side.
Wouldn't do it any other way. I've already learned alot just from searching (presuming I can figure out the right question to input in the query)
3. Can't find Photoshop Touch on the play store. But there must be a work around am sure. I am using Paranoid by the way. I actually have it linked...oh...no I don't. Ok... Easy Fix.
4. You can pretty much flash a custom ROM and flash various themes and things. Don't know about RAM but you can over clock or under clock your processor. There are various tweaks scattered so just search for it and more often than not you will find it. Carbon tweaks are really good. Search them in themes and apps. Haven't heard of Carbon tweaks before. Will look it up.
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My words in BLUE.
What just happened there?
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What is this... I don't even. Looks like you just thanked me. Uhhhh...You are Welcome!^_^
Pro Tip: Look forward to a lot more question thick posts. Golly you all use a TON of acronyms and No Visual Aids.
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What is this... I don't even. Looks like you just thanked me. Uhhhh...You are Welcome!^_^
Pro Tip: Look forward to a lot more question thick posts. Golly you all use a TON of acronyms and No Visual Aids.
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Sorry for that man! Was more than half asleep. I thought some other guy gave me a link to Photoshop touch app so I thanked 'him' for that. Happens!
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Yes. Photoshop touch works in ICS.
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Would any developer be willing to create an MIUI or IOS ROM for the HTC Desire 626 Metro PCs?
MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
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MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
Also, wrong section. Please try to follow forum guidelines and post in the appropriate section (q&a)
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Will repost in q&a. Thanks so much for your kind answer. Looks like you got it all figured out.
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iOS - Impossible
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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That explains the reason why there's no more ios rom creation. But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
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But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
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Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
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Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
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Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
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Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
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Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
IsaacGuti said:
Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
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By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
s3llz said:
By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
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The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
IsaacGuti said:
The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
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Thank you sir for the info. I am unlocked and rooted again. Now, I'll sit back and wait for some debloated roms to pop up for 6.0.1 2.17.1550.1 Metro PCS.
Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
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Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
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My bad. Here I found the app in my Play Store history, (from before Google made it country specific?) and installed it. It immediately crashed but stayed open. From there I updated it from within the launcher settings and it crashed again. Just as I was about to give up I had a brainstorm and went back into settings and turned off the lockscreen. This made it stop crashing for me. I hunted around for Beautiful Widgets and replaced the clock and installed miui theme for it and everything looks good from here.
So I installed Titanium Backup and uploaded the app. Hopefully this helps you.
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