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Hey all has anyone been secretly working on the wp7 rom for the X1? if so lets start a thread for it
i don't think its been leaked yet, has it?
Well I dont know if anybody is working but I trying to make this theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633755
I love to have WP7 on SEX1 (if it is possible)
I guess hardware requirements wont let you to function smoothly but chefs here can save us with a barebone edition of WP7
Cheers
i hate to break it to u guys, but we don have a proper OEMXip and drivers from wm6.5 which is the same CE version as 6.1
how do u expect a XIP + oemdriver for wm7 when its completely different driver set + newer version of CE.
n lets no forget the touch capacity screen requirement of wm7
so unless MS decides so make it backward compatible to older device, i just don see it. and knowing MS i don think they will. coz they cant sell just an OS at retail. it comes with a device. so if the old device can run 7, it will mean less sell of newer products will be sold and no company would want that.
agent_47 said:
i hate to break it to u guys, but we don have a proper OEMXip and drivers from wm6.5 which is the same CE version as 6.1
how do u expect a XIP + oemdriver for wm7 when its completely different driver set + newer version of CE.
n lets no forget the touch capacity screen requirement of wm7
so unless MS decides so make it backward compatible to older device, i just don see it. and knowing MS i don think they will. coz they cant sell just an OS at retail. it comes with a device. so if the old device can run 7, it will mean less sell of newer products will be sold and no company would want that.
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Yes, that's correct.
But can't you guys, extract WM6.5 drivers out of the xperia X2? The hardware is almost 95% the same as our beloved X1 D), right?
sadly we wont be getting windows phone 7
but there are rumors that microsoft is making a sucessor to the 6.5.X line. I really do hope so! CE is soooooo old! and the new 6.X better not be CE.
****head said:
Yes, that's correct.
But can't you guys, extract WM6.5 drivers out of the xperia X2? The hardware is almost 95% the same as our beloved X1 D), right?
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Like if the X2 will ever get wm7, stop dreaming
So X2 drivers are useless for wm7 because the drivers are ment for wm6.5
allenx1 said:
and the new 6.X better not be CE.
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This doesn't make any sense.
I dont understand this CE thing...can't we update it..AFAIK, its a software version rite???so can't we have it updated on X1???
Pointless in discussing now, as no WP7 betas out... no one knows the final min specs...
might be 1ghz processor with tegra required...
microsoft did say in all the video's i've watched that the min specs will be quite high to ensure that user experience is rich.
x1-xda said:
This doesn't make any sense.
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meaning the new 6.X should not be based on CE
ryousuke said:
Pointless in discussing now, as no WP7 betas out... no one knows the final min specs...
might be 1ghz processor with tegra required...
microsoft did say in all the video's i've watched that the min specs will be quite high to ensure that user experience is rich.
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I happened to see some windows 7 add on youtube which has a pyramid hovering over all users... and i think the guy is using windows 7 phone operating series (or whatever they call it) ..... the good thing about it is that the guy is using an xperia X1. Now i know that there is a good chance the screens were added post recording and are all fake... but lets all just keep our hopes high and fingers crossed
i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
cant we update the CE..
circleofomega said:
cant we update the CE..
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If you mean update the CE to CE7 then No, as stated above it is pointless to even be discussing this right now since we don't even have the proper hardware/drivers to even run WP7 properly and the beta isn't even out yet, your just going to have to wait for 6.6.
If you guys want WP7 so badly try upgrading to new hardware.
l0rdsheva said:
i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
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Yeah, but like if they build an htc with such low-end hardware like the xperia for such a high-end os like windows phone 7, no way thats gonna happen. No way they are gonna beat iPhone then.
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i'm not very sure about drivers. We have seen that htc devices are quite similar about hardware so maybe possible, as we are already doing with wm 6.5, to use drivers of other devices.
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We are not using drivers from other phones. Atleast not the whole OEM shizzle. Drivers(except some video drivers etc) are device specific and can't be used on other devices
min specs for WP7 is quite high... i read snapdragon +1Ghz CPU would be required...
credit to msoft for raising the bar (ensuring user experience will be similar all round)
sadly this means that our qualcomm 528mhz processor + ati graphics might not cut it...
While this does make wp7 look nice with the high specs, it would also make the phones more expensive. Though, snapdragon should be cheaper by then.
WP7-lite for us 528mhz people!
I have a HD7 lying around and my cousin needs a new phone. I offered to give my HD7, but, unfortunately, WP7 does not support the Chinese language.
I was wondering if it would be possible to flash a Chinese rom on a T-mobile HD7? He won't be using it for texting or inputting anything. It's just that the basic phone menus should be in Chinese for him to understand.
If it doesn't work, I will have offer him my HD2 Android since it supports Chinese, and I will have to use the HD7 (which isn't bad but I prefer Android).
Try flashing a rom using goldcard method?
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
alexrodri0 said:
Try flashing a rom using goldcard method?
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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I don't believe there is a Chinese version of WP7 at all. Microsoft itself is targeting 'Mango' release to have Chinese support.
Of course, the phone should still be able to display Chinese characters, you just don't have Chinese menus and type in Chinese.
BTW, the latest report is that even though Mango will add a lot of new language support, it doesn't expand the existing handset's language support. So, your HD7 will still be English only even after Mango update. You will have to buy new models to get those extra languages.
There is a chinese ROM somewhere because when i got my HD7 it was completely in chinese, no chinese input but it was completely localized. Still you'll have to use the goldcard method to flash it.
Thanks for your help. Since there's no Chinese ROM readily available, I will try to get another HD2 from craigslist.
Hi there,
I have Xperia X1 and Windows Mobile 6.5 installed in it. Microsoft announced that Windows Phone 7 can updatable and downloadable now. So is there anybody who installed WP7 for Xperia X1? Or can we do that?
Thank you.
poyrazozer said:
Hi there,
I have Xperia X1 and Windows Mobile 6.5 installed in it. Microsoft announced that Windows Phone 7 can updatable and downloadable now. So is there anybody who installed WP7 for Xperia X1? Or can we do that?
Thank you.
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can you send us a link?
I think the announcement was that the new wp7 is out, and ist updateable and downloadable for wp7 phones
neoofoox said:
can you send us a link?
I think the announcement was that the new wp7 is out, and ist updateable and downloadable for wp7 phones
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yes mango (WP7.5) is available ni update for all WP7 devices
no offense but that's impossible
there is no way our hardware could manage it
just download russels win7 theme
SE already announced that there will be no update for Xperia X1 ... also, WP7 requires much more than X1 can handle and it also need a capacitive touch screen which X1s don't have ... also it needs double the CPU power and more ram ... so, I don't think this would be possible ... I guess they are just some rumors
Hope I have helped
"◦Multi-core processor support: As reviewers have noted, Windows Phone runs buttery smooth on phones with a single processor. But piggybacking on the Windows core provides support for multiple cores—so we’re ready for whatever hardware makers dream up."
now alot of people have been under the impression that multicore is the minimum for wp8 when i say that is not true!
windows 8 can run on a pentium 4 or intel atom with a single 1ghz then we will see wp8 devices with single cores. the future "minimum spec"
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"◦More flexible storage: Windows Phone 8 supports removable MicroSD cards, so you can stuff your phone with extra photos, music, and whatever else is important to you, and then easily move it all onto your PC."
the hd7 has a removable storage already. the only way we wont see a port is if the rom is too large for what we already have. this being said and carefully examined they didnt rule it out. but they didnt want to say yes and OEMs cant sell new devices if the older ones keep selling. so they wont "offically bring the update to wp8"
also it is being observed that sdxc cards are working in android phones so storage issues may not be a problem either for us!
here at xda-developers we have been unoffically updating devices for over a decade! so I dont think we are in the dark, our minds have such strong innovative imaginations we can see the light with our eyes closed!
yes its possible...MS has been testing wp8 on older HTC devices. it showed up in some logs which was recently being leaked on the internet
Besides this, wp8 during the summit conference was shown runnng on a nokia qualcomm prototype which isnt likely to be a S4 but older processor
HD7 will also run Windows Phone 9 ! happy !
backlashsid said:
HD7 will also run Windows Phone 9 ! happy !
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What? where are you basing this on?
backlashsid said:
HD7 will also run Windows Phone 9 ! happy !
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What? where are you basing this on?
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And 10 too! :highfive:
Oh cmon stop spaming the forum with this crap. Sit tight until its released and then you can talk about possebilities when devs get a hold of a rom
we need the first test wp8 rom to be leaked first .
no one has it now
so its hard to expriment with it
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What? where are you basing this on?
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straight insider from Microsoft ! :laugh:
ewe959 said:
straight insider from Microsoft !
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u shall be reported for duplicate and spam posts.
backlashsid said:
u shall be reported for duplicate and spam posts.
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hey keep hope alive lol. but to be completely honest I see it as very possible. the only limitation would be rom. because in reality windows 8 can run on a single processor so can wp8 it just has support for multiple processors. so we can run the hd7 drivers in compalitbity mode! :fingers-crossed:
the difference between wp8 and wp7 is that wp8 has support for newer hardware. this means that wp8 can run on newer hardware but does not mean it cannot run on older hardware.
The reason Windows Phone 8 might be a possibility is because there have been evidence which show that Microsoft was testing Windows Phone 8 builds on the HD7. Lets wait and see what happens.
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The reason Windows Phone 8 might be a possibility is because there have been evidence which show that Microsoft was testing Windows Phone 8 builds on the HD7. Lets wait and see what happens.
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yeah lets see what happens..afterall wp7 was ported over to the HD2 without a hitch
If wp8 will not work on hd7 I will use the Android phones
As much as I love my HD7 (I still use it for xbox live games and music it's getting pretty long in the tooth now), I'm looking forward to seeing what HTC does with the new OS (WP8) and even Nokia with their PureView tech! The HD7 imo didn't get the same sort of community backing as the HD2 did, i'd almost bet that the HD2 has more chance of seeing a WP8 rom than the HD7 does, but i'm simply having a joke about. :angel:
WP8 on the HD7 will most likely depend on whether or not NT kernel drivers can be written for it. This probably won't be until HTC roms get leaked.
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Is there anyone planning on trying to hack Windows Phone 8 on to Windows Phone 7 handsets? I'd like to get WP8, but I also want to wait to see if there's a Surface Phone announced in the next six months, so I don't want to spend a ton of money on an off-contract Lumia 920 right now.
I'd check if the hardware is up to it ,ice the ram.
The reason they are not being updated I understand is due to the hardware restrictions. They must know a lot of owners are very fed up and would surely update if they could as its a PR disaster for them
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howard bamber said:
I'd check if the hardware is up to it ,ice the ram.
The reason they are not being updated I understand is due to the hardware restrictions. They must know a lot of owners are very fed up and would surely update if they could as its a PR disaster for them
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Well I'm suspecting it may be possible because the HTC HD2 can run Windows Phone 7. I think it may be a bit slow and whatever, but I'd bet it's possible.
revxx14 said:
Well I'm suspecting it may be possible because the HTC HD2 can run Windows Phone 7. I think it may be a bit slow and whatever, but I'd bet it's possible.
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The HTC HD2 has exactlly the same chipset on board as the first wave of WP7 handsets used (Qualcomm Snapdragon S1 - QSD 8x50).
Contrary to this WP8 devices all feature at least Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 Chips, while the strongest WP7.5 devices have a Single Core Snapdragon S2 (MSM8255T). The RAM is actually a much smaller problem, given that entry level WP8 devices have 512 MB, same as most WP7 devices.
The hardware should be able to run WIndows 8 without much problems.
The big obstacle ahead is the lack of drivers. We need to create drivers for our chipsets and hack them into Windows Phone 8. We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors and other hardware aspects like NFC or secure bot.
But i don't think this will be necessary, as the 7.8 update will do pretty much that and we won't have to bother about it.
Idk about other OEMs, but Nokia is determined to bring as many WP8 features as possible. We probably won't get a file manager and real multitasking, but that is not a big issue.
The HTC 8s has single core and almost the same resolution as 2nd generation wp handsets
mcosmin222 said:
We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors
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Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
mcosmin222 said:
But i don't think this will be necessary, as the 7.8 update will do pretty much that and we won't have to bother about it.
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WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
jrtorrents said:
The HTC 8s has single core and almost the same resolution as 2nd generation wp handsets
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It has dual core.
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Useless guy said:
Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
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Whats the catch with the kernel? I'm talking about the features in windows phone 8 that wp 7.8 will bring. The kernel really has nothing to do with those, if they really want to bring em. As i said, we wouldn't get real multitasking, NFC and Directx games(if nokia really wants it, directx can be fixed too).
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It has dual core.
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Whats the catch with the kernel? I'm talking about the features in windows phone 8 that wp 7.8 will bring. The kernel really has nothing to do with those, if they really want to bring em. As i said, we wouldn't get real multitasking, NFC and Directx games(if nokia really wants it, directx can be fixed too).
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Quoting:
The hardware should be able to run WIndows 8 without much problems.
The big obstacle ahead is the lack of drivers. We need to create drivers for our chipsets and hack them into Windows Phone 8. We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors and other hardware aspects like NFC or secure bot.
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Maybe I'm drunk (cause I'm from Russia) and unable to read this.
You are drunk
About 7.8: I don't want a kernel change in 7.8 It won't happen. But we will get as many features of windows 8 as our hardware can handle.
Reverse engineering WP8 will do the same. The only advantage it might have over 7.8 is that we will run directx games. The huge disadvantage is that we need to get the source code, hack drivers for our hardware in it, disable the windows phone 8 specific stuff that our hardware does not support. I don't really see such huge benefit in doing it. We are better off waiting for 7.8 instead, which will bring pretty much the same (sans the directx games).
That's what i wanted to say. Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. My bad
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
mcosmin222 : mate i meant by the size of the ROMs we download for flashing.
a lumia 800 rom around 320 MB and lumia 820 around 1.2 GB
so the matter of content maybe much larger while talking about porting..
surya467 said:
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
lOL! XD
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LOLWUT?
The current WP7.5 OS is about 2 GB size.
The smallest WP device is 4GB i think.
So you do the math.
And if you meant RAM, the OS uses around 130 mb.
mcosmin222 said:
You are drunk
About 7.8: I don't want a kernel change in 7.8 It won't happen. But we will get as many features of windows 8 as our hardware can handle.
Reverse engineering WP8 will do the same. The only advantage it might have over 7.8 is that we will run directx games. The huge disadvantage is that we need to get the source code, hack drivers for our hardware in it, disable the windows phone 8 specific stuff that our hardware does not support. I don't really see such huge benefit in doing it. We are better off waiting for 7.8 instead, which will bring pretty much the same (sans the directx games).
That's what i wanted to say. Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. My bad
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Ok, I finally understood
Useless guy said:
Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
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I have WP8 source code. The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
sianto1997 said:
I have WP8 source code.
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sianto1997 said:
The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
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D: D: D:
sianto1997 said:
I have WP8 source code. The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
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WHAT? how...tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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surya467 said:
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
mcosmin222 : mate i meant by the size of the ROMs we download for flashing.
a lumia 800 rom around 320 MB and lumia 820 around 1.2 GB
so the matter of content maybe much larger while talking about porting..
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I don't think the size is going to be a problem.
If we can hack the entire system, we surely can use our magic to get around the size, if that is an issue.
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WHAT? how...tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Its the 9900 emulator build, which cant run on a phone, but still, you can get the idea!
sianto1997 said:
Its the 9900 emulator build, which cant run on a phone, but still, you can get the idea!
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Hi Sianto 1977. Can you share source code download link?