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Seriously pee'd off

If people receive their nexus 7 before me, I pre'd on the 28th two weeks ago, I'll be cancelling my order with Google and purchasing from somewhere else. Not only did I/we pay more for pre order ( extra for shipping) were getting them after other people - yeah right Google, ebuyer can have my money!
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I don't think Google guarantees that you will get it before anyone else
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Thats what pre order means. You buy it early to get it early.

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I don't think Google guarantees that you will get it before anyone else
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When you are among the first to order from the only place selling said device at said time, are you not expecting to be getting it before anyone else? When people complained about the shipping cost everyone said "well hey thats what you pay to get it before everyone else" and now those same people are arguing that their own logic doesnt make sense .Not going after you or your post here just using it as a jump off point.

People will get it a day or two before you, not weeks earlier. i can't believe someone would throw such a temper tantrum over something so ridiculous.

It could be worse. At least Google is allowing some choice for people to buy from other retailers. Although their execution of that seems pretty questionable. You were able to pay extra for shipping? I didn't know there was any other shipping choice on Google Play.
A lot of people want this tablet. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things if your tablet arrives a few days later than someone else? Some people will have theirs tomorrow for sure. If you were able to cancel and then ordered somewhere else it would likely push your arrival date even further than if you just waited for it like everyone else who ordered from Google Play.
Just hang in there, man.

foxorroxors said:
If people receive their nexus 7 before me, I pre'd on the 28th two weeks ago, I'll be cancelling my order with Google and purchasing from somewhere else. Not only did I/we pay more for pre order ( extra for shipping) were getting them after other people - yeah right Google, ebuyer can have my money!
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Have fun cancelling, i heard you're going to have to wait for the item to come, refuse shipment, then wait for it to credit back to your account

My issue is if Google is/was able to ship units off to retailers, then why can't they do the same with the preorders? Preorder shipments should have started back when they started shipping units to retailers.

I WANT IT NOW!!
Pre-order means that you reserve your copy so that you are guaranteed a order at release. Not I ordered it on the 28th so I deserve to be the first to get EVERYTHING!!
People always think people OWE them something.. ME ME ME ME ME.
And don't reply telling me that if you run a business how your customer service should be blah blah blah.. All in all google doesn't owe you anything when they haven't even released a date yet.. They said mid july, its not mid july yet, one more week.

crazy talk said:
People will get it a day or two before you, not weeks earlier. i can't believe someone would throw such a temper tantrum over something so ridiculous.
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hardly a temper tantrum. Sense to cancel the one that costs more and receives later.....
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doctahjeph said:
My issue is if Google is/was able to ship units off to retailers, then why can't they do the same with the preorders? Preorder shipments should have started back when they started shipping units to retailers.
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But isn't it being manufactured by Asus?
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clandest said:
I WANT IT NOW!!
Pre-order means that you reserve your copy so that you are guaranteed a order at release. Not I ordered it on the 28th so I deserve to be the first to get EVERYTHING!!
People always think people OWE them something.. ME ME ME ME ME.
And don't reply telling me that if you run a business how your customer service should be blah blah blah.. All in all google doesn't owe you anything when they haven't even released a date yet.. They said mid july, its not mid july yet, one more week.
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Calm down lol, wouldn't you be annoyed if you had paid more than others in total, got slower shipping and received after them. lol?
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foxorroxors said:
Calm down lol, wouldn't you be annoyed if you had paid more than others in total, got slower shipping and received after them. lol?
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What was your total at checkout? Just curious.
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BaconStep said:
What was your total at checkout? Just curious.
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For two £407.99
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They definitely didn't execute things very great. No defined street date which led to reseller confusion. Maybe they couldn't set one because they weren't sure of their own availability and the units they could sell on Google Play.

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Calm down lol, wouldn't you be annoyed if you had paid more than others in total, got slower shipping and received after them. lol?
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I would be annoyed if the company released a date when they were going to ship and everyone else's was "OFFICIALLY" shipped before mine..
No one has gotten their N7 yet, so until massive people start getting theirs before you do.. Then I can see to be a little frustrated, but just being mad because its not getting here as fast as you want is dumb.

I've ordered from Google but I also ordered yesterday from Ebuyer. The ebuyer should be delivered this morning as it an am delivery.
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clandest said:
I WANT IT NOW!!
Pre-order means that you reserve your copy so that you are guaranteed a order at release. Not I ordered it on the 28th so I deserve to be the first to get EVERYTHING!!
People always think people OWE them something.. ME ME ME ME ME.
And don't reply telling me that if you run a business how your customer service should be blah blah blah.. All in all google doesn't owe you anything when they haven't even released a date yet.. They said mid july, its not mid july yet, one more week.
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Please SHUT UP with that stuff man, I hope you hit a branch on your high horse. You are responding on a thread/Forum designed and supported solely by Consumerism, you have no room to call other people greedy or selfish.
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clandest said:
I would be annoyed if the company released a date when they were going to ship and everyone else's was "OFFICIALLY" shipped before mine..
No one has gotten their N7 yet, so until massive people start getting theirs before you do.. Then I can see to be a little frustrated, but just being mad because its not getting here as fast as you want is dumb.
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Thanks for approching the topic with a bit of respect for others situations, and putting logic first. You are right and ill clarify at least in my situation, my biggest thing is that Google has room to improve their Device Launch procedures ALOT. We all want google to succeed and have many more launches, the criticism is both warranted and neccesary to support the growth of the platform we all love. Am i MAD? NO, but i dont think theres anything wrong with honest criticism of the situation, naturally the people with a vested interest are going to be the ones doing the criticising.

I just got my payment credited back for the purchase of my N7. No communication, notice or email....nothing. So I don't even know if I'm gonna get one or not. Oh well....

To me honestly, I don't care if other stores get it before me, no matter where I pre-ordered. I just care about getting it quickly. Your guaranteed to get a copy plus you get free in store credit along with a movie the whole world has seen and doesn't want to see again :/ . You'll get it when you get it

Who got a free nexus 7 by canceling

This thread is for people who ordered from the play store and have recieved their orders but cancelled and did not get charged. Do we have any lucky buggers that have managed to net one free because the way google are handling things i wouldnt be suprised if a few hundred slip through their pathetic delivery tracking system.

I doubt that will happen.
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I would not be surprised if those people get an invoice and return shipping label in the mail. And then have to choose return or pay. Let alone if it was cancelled and the purchase does not say cancelled in Play store then technically Google covered the terms of the sale and could charge the credit card on file since they could show delivery of said product. Plus in its term of sale it states the cancellation period.
This thread will just bait people to debate. Seems trollish.
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I got a iPad 3 for free that way too, they sent me a replacement because my engraved one was delayed and I got refunded
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jsm7483 said:
I would not be surprised if those people get an invoice and return shipping label in the mail. And then have to choose return or pay. Let alone if it was cancelled and the purchase does not say cancelled in Play store then technically Google covered the terms of the sale and could charge the credit card on file since they could show delivery of said product. Plus in its term of sale it states the cancellation period.
This thread will just bait people to debate. Seems trollish.
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Do i look like a troll or trollish?

Its dishonest and borderline theft!
Were people really raised this way? No wonder the world is the way it is these days...
Compromise your honor for $200?? WOW!

czissis said:
I'm not a lawyer, but if I think this would qualify as an unsolicited good. In this case the recipient would not be held accountable for returning or paying for the device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolicited_goods
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Is that for UK only? Also, isn't it somewhat solicited since one had ordered it and attempted to cancel after the specified cancellation period?
This thread is going to cause arguments for sure. Not as bad as the thread about retail FRAUD though...

raqball said:
Its dishonest and borderline theft!
Were people really raised this way? No wonder the world is the way it is these days...
Compromise your honor for $200?? WOW!
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Agreed. I thought the same thing about the retail fraud one with the guy having a play store and Sam's club tab, inspecting them and just returning whichever one he doesn't want to Sam's club. I think it's actually a felony.
Shame.

tsk! tsk! tsk!
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Welcome dishonest folks. C'mon in!
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r4d14n7 said:
Agreed. I thought the same thing about the retail fraud one with the guy having a play store and Sam's club tab, inspecting them and just returning whichever one he doesn't want to Sam's club. I think it's actually a felony.
Shame.
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So buy 12 and return 11? Whats different about that?

Lol a free tablet is a free tablet ....like Google doesn't have more money then they will ever need . And not to mention I'm pretty sure Google is constantly stealing/viewing or information that's why u get ads similar to the things you talk about in your emails. Ppl just over look these things because they make great products
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czissis said:
I'm not a lawyer, but if I think this would qualify as an unsolicited good. In this case the recipient would not be held accountable for returning or paying for the device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolicited_goods
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Correct, you are not a lawyer.
The "unsolicited goods" laws in some countries (USA for example, which is handled by the FTC) is explicitly written to cover receiving unordered products. It is not for "haha! you sent me something after I cancelled my order so I get to keep it for free!" type scenarios.
So, for example, if you signed up for a free product and they sent you something more with a bill/invoice. Or if you never ordered anything to begin with, but they sent you something and wanted you to pay for it. Or if you receive something (again, not ordered) and it was due to an honest shipping mistake*.
To the latter, you are still supposed to contact the merchant to let them know of the mistake, and give them an opportunity to correct it at zero cost to you (ie: paying for return shipping) within a reasonable amount of time. You can also make it clear that if they don't contact you about it within that time, you will dispose of the product in any manner you see fit.
While this part of it might be a stretch, it could possibly apply here. So if you did actually get an N7 by mistake after cancelling your order, and want to keep it with little risk, I would suggest sending a certified letter to Google with the content above. If they respond back saying to send it to them using a prepaid shipping method, you should do so. Otherwise, while it wouldn't be considered "fraud" since it was their mistake, it could be considered theft of goods, since you did in fact order the product, they still sent it to you due to an honest mistake, they later tried to get it corrected, and you refused.
Or, you could just stay quiet and hope they don't contact you about it - if you are so inclined.
But in the end, if they do contact you to return the merchandise, I would recommend doing so.

On the invoice I received with my order, it had the device's serial number. They knew the device's serial number too, when I rang up and started the RMA process. Google know where each device has been shipped to, so I doubt very much that they'll do nothing and let people keep free tablets. Also, as stated on the support pages, they can remotely disable devices.

I can't wait to fast forward a couple of months, and the "Google just charged my credit card for a tablet I didn't return " threads start.
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For those of you who have done this ....you may feel you have been "lucky" but the one thing you don't have is honor.
Stealing is stealing is stealing.
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I bet most of these people saying they compromised honor for a free tablet, are rooted and use a tethering app.... Going around your companies Hot Spot Fee is stealing too...
How about the pots stop calling the kettle black

crazychef said:
I bet most of these people saying they compromised honor for a free tablet, are rooted and use a tethering app.... Going around your companies Hot Spot Fee is stealing too...
How about the pots stop calling the kettle black
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Yawn...
I'm rooted and don't tether...

crazychef said:
I bet most of these people saying they compromised honor for a free tablet, are rooted and use a tethering app.... Going around your companies Hot Spot Fee is stealing too...
How about the pots stop calling the kettle black
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who all has seen this petition?

http://www.change.org/petitions/goo...s-7-purchases-made-through-google-play-store#
I hope google finally does something about this

No I haven't seen it. I'm sure it will get a few more signatures by being posted here.
I just hope it has an effect on Google, though.

Seen this linked a few times on the shipping thread, signed.
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ROFLCOPTER
Good luck with that petition.

Google isn't going to do anything.
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ExploreMN said:
ROFLCOPTER
Good luck with that petition.
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BaconStep said:
Google isn't going to do anything.
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pretty much my thinking. I was reading about it in some article earlier though. I just wasn't sure how widespread it was

What a bunch of entitled crybabies

Silly petition.
If you don't want to pay for shipping, buy it from somewhere that doesn't charge shipping. Pre sale or not you had the choice to order via PS or not. If you do/did, there is a shipping charge...
Nothing new or out of the ordinary there.

Getting very tired of the consumerism use of change.org
I sign **** that save peoples lives
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Did the people who ordered through the play store have to pay sales tax?
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SDO1000 said:
Did the people who ordered through the play store have to pay sales tax?
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...some did.
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Hang on. No one forced anyone to buy from Google and pay for the shipping. Why didn't those go somewhere else that offered free shipping. Absolute idiots.
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I keep getting these stupid emails from Change.org for the most stupid things, and this petition is on that same level.
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I really hope a lot of these users weed themselves out of the forums. And I don't appreciate change.org emails about such petty things, just my personal opinion. I feel like if the company doesn't want to give you back the $14, and it's a big deal to you, then you need to accept it. Either realize it's not the end of the world, or never buy another google product. If you have to nag the shipping out of them or coerce them, you can't come back and talk about how you would be mad about the launch but since they volunteered the shipping they're back in your good favor, just because you want to justify using something you complained incessantly about.

Anthrsckmnd said:
What a bunch of entitled crybabies
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It's unfortunately the way most people are nowadays

Silly. Google didn't force anyone to buy it plus the unit price, tax and shipping were clearly itemized and the buyer agreed to it by finalizing the purchase. Petty waste of time.

Can I start a petition about people signing dumbass petitions?
From the Note to Nexus 7

haha!! i would think by now that most of us that pre-order, ie early adopters, should realize that some days we get screwed. its the risk you take as being part of the 'first' crowd. damn us and our first world problems

Meaple said:
Hang on. No one forced anyone to buy from Google and pay for the shipping. Why didn't those go somewhere else that offered free shipping. Absolute idiots.
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Well, no, they didn't force anyone to buy a Nexus 7 in the first place, but they did force many people to buy it from them.
Shortly after stores announced that they were going to start selling on Wednesday, Google began refusing to cancel orders. They told people that their unit was being prepared for shipment and it was too late to stop the package. Correct me if I'm wrong, but many of those people who tried to cancel and were denied because their Nexus was on the way didn't actually see their package shipped for another week. Meanwhile, they had to choose between picking up a unit off the shelf or waiting for a package that still had not been declared. Either way they were paying for shipping.
This is a pathetic way to express a legitimate grievance.

This is ridiculous, the shipping amount was clearly listed prior to check out, if you didn't want to pay shipping you should have gotten it somewhere else.

16gb nexus 7 discontinued?

Well I was stupid and pre-ordered from Wal-Mart.com. My order status stated it would arrive today but that it hadn't shipped yet. I called their customer service and they said they had to cancel my order because my item has been discontinued from the distributor. Called gamestop and they said that not only are they out but they were told today they weren't getting anymore...anyone else heard this?
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Definitely NOT discontinued. Supply issues certainly, but not discontinued.
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Aye, not discontinued but waiting for Asus to make more
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Google were shocked by demand, they though it would be like the iPod touch where the cheapest model sold the most- they got the opposite.

Sounds like they're tired of answering questions at Gamestop.
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Discontinued? That kinda made me laugh. I wouldn't believe a word from anyone working at Walmart. Products like these just don't get discontinued in a month.
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Aye, not discontinued but waiting for Asus to make more
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I heard Asus is refusing to make anymore until those that have suggested it would have been better to have Samsung or Motorola make them instead, apologize..
In other news, it could be a national holiday in China, like it was during the long wait for the Notion Ink Adam, where employees agreed to continue working during New Years celebrations instead of going on their yearly vacation to see their families. Perhaps this time they see no benefit and refuse to skip theirs..
Second wave 8/30 or still waiting on the SD (street date) of 8/05?
NOTE: I called my Gamestop, they didn't have any, she offered to look in the computer to see which stores nearby had them in stock. Went to one and exchanged mine on the spot.

My Gamestop called me today to tell me my replacement came in.

I also ordered from Wallmart and checked on my order yesterday they said that it was ready to ship today. Than today I get a email and was told that they could not ship it yet. This was after they told me that they had them!

clockcycle said:
I heard Asus is refusing to make anymore until those that have suggested it would have been better to have Samsung or Motorola make them instead, apologize..
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Well I don't need to apologise as I said in the other thread stores could have had a faulty early batch but didn't say I agree with changing manufacturers
Anyway, others just have to wait and hope they come out okay
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
Google were shocked by demand, they though it would be like the iPod touch where the cheapest model sold the most- they got the opposite.
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Yeah, I think at the price point more people went straight for the 16GB. I know I did, I didn't even consider the 8GB.
Honestly though with either model and an OTG cable and a little root work, storage isn't really a limiting factor at all. People who really want an N7 and can find a 8GB now should scoop one up.

Tornadojoe said:
Yeah, I think at the price point more people went straight for the 16GB. I know I did, I didn't even consider the 8GB.
Honestly though with either model and an OTG cable and a little root work, storage isn't really a limiting factor at all. People who really want an N7 and can find a 8GB now should scoop one up.
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They make an 8GB one?
LOL :silly:

It's not discontinued as mentioned, probably just temporarily out of stock. In Sweden we seem to only get the 16GB version sometime during September. I would have been fine with the 8GB but it doesn't really matter to me either in price or storage.

They might have stopped to address the screen and creaking issues. That's just a guess though.
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I stopped by a GS the other day to see if they had any accessories for the n7, they didn't, but when i Asked them if they had any n7's the employee told me you had to have preordered one to get one and they wouldn't be getting more.
Doesn't mean Google isn't making more' just means GameStop won't be selling them.
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I heard Asus is refusing to make anymore until those that have suggested it would have been better to have Samsung or Motorola make them instead, apologize..
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Hahahahahahahahaha good one. You get a thanks for that one buddy!

Google probly pissed at retail stores for selling them before street date ..
Or maybe they don't want to be in retail and decided to run a Play Store sweat shop with backed up orders that continue to build up
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Even if they halted distribution, there's no way it's being discontinued. I really doubt that any Walmart rep has his or her finger on the pulse, and the Gamestop guy only said that they were expecting shipments but now they're not.
It is possible that Google wants to put a hold on things until they reign in the build quality.

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Discontinued? That kinda made me laugh. I wouldn't believe a word from anyone working at Walmart. Products like these just don't get discontinued in a month.
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The HP Touchpad was discontinued barely a month after the product was released.

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The HP Touchpad was discontinued barely a month after the product was released.
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Yeh, but that was a total flop and only started selling in the fire sales after it had been discontinued. This on the other hand was a massive success and sold-out everywhere,

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tuffballa said:
check this out..seems legit. According to Play Store reps, more will be out before Black Friday which is next Friday! what do you think?
http://www.androidinfosource.com/2012/11/16/nexus-4-weeks-away-days-according-to-play-support/
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lol.
That is impossible. They have thousands of orders that have never been shipped and they have a huge back-order list. To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up. The chances they will get their current orders out this week are incredibly low, to add more orders to it is not happening.

I seriously hope its true. I REALLY want to get mine for Christmas. I'm seeing a second chance if this is true.

No one else credible is reporting this.
A story this big would definitely be picked up by the more well known android news orgs. I'm not buying it.
That said, it would behoove Google to get something going soon, so as not to miss the holiday season.
Personally I'm already looking at the SGS3, or the Note II.

Smells like bull****

Seems like bs to me. If this was the case surely they would let us all know. I don't believe it.
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Lil Jones said:
.... To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up.
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No one with half a brain "assumes" that UPS is part of the Nexus 4 roll out fiasco. UPS is delivering the devices, but I'd bet the farm, that they aren't the cause of any of this the issues in getting phones in the hands of buyers.

tuffballa said:
check this out..seems legit. According to Play Store reps
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Stopped reading right there.

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Stopped reading right there.
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LOL agreed. "Play Store Reps" have been the primary source of mis-information so far.

lol agreed but the article also states confirmed by "play store manager" but who knows..if play store reps dont know better..then who does??

If this was being caused by ups, ups would have informed us. They site are not to blame at all.
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Richieboy67 said:
If this was being caused by ups, ups would have informed us. They site are not to blame at all.
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Yeah I am not sure where that came from.

If there is like a single Play Store manager Ibet he is trying typo get answers also.
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Lil Jones said:
To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up.
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Ummm, I think that's dependent on the country you're in. UPS is very accurate in Canada, never had an issue with them before.
deltatux

dbgeek said:
No one with half a brain "assumes" that UPS is part of the Nexus 4 roll out fiasco. UPS is delivering the devices, but I'd bet the farm, that they aren't the cause of any of this the issues in getting phones in the hands of buyers.
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UPS is the one who is managing the warehouse that the items are being shipped from. That is why people are assuming they have something to do with this. That and its not out of the ordinary for UPS to work with a different system then FIFO to reduce cost and increase effectiveness.

Thanksgiving 2013?

Ups manages their warehouse? Most Likely they just send trucks..
I really don't think ups is the problem. I asked my brother about this. He is a manager at ups and has been there for over 15 years. He said he has heard nothing about any issues anywhere. He would tell me if he hears anything.
He manages logistics, etc so I am sure he would be able to find out if there was a major problem.
The fault lies with Google. All the double orders, auto page refreshers, etc.. This is why they got messed up but I still don't understand how they could run out of stock so fast unless they were planning it by not having much on hand.
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Google does not sell nearly enough devices to warrant having their own warehouse. At the amount of devices that they are selling they have to outsource to a different company. In this case we can easily assume based from where they are shipping from Kentucky where UPS has a very large warehouse for distribution. The fact that UPS was the only shipping option and that google is clearly not working with Amazon, Newegg, Walmart or another large company leaves the most logical guess that it is UPS.

Lil Jones said:
Google does not sell nearly enough devices to warrant having their own warehouse. At the amount of devices that they are selling they have to outsource to a different company. In this case we can easily assume based from where they are shipping from Kentucky where UPS has a very large warehouse for distribution. The fact that UPS was the only shipping option and that google is clearly not working with Amazon, Newegg, Walmart or another large company leaves the most logical guess that it is UPS.
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You do not think Google has a warehouse?
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Richieboy67 said:
You do not think Google has a warehouse?
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They do not sell enough devices to warrant the expenses of a in house where house. Having a warehouse is not cheap, and its some thing you normally have to go big or not at all.