Question about flashing firmware to fix twlauncher - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I was a little too aggressive with trying to remove Samsung bloatware from my rooted stock N7000 running 4.0.3 baseband LP4, build LPA. I deleted Social Hub, which turns out to be a crucial component for twlauncher, and basically the launcher kept FCing. Reinstalling Social Hub kept failing, so I had to install Go Launcher just so I could use the device, but I think I would like to go back to TouchWiz. Based on my research, the only way to fix this broken twlauncher issue is to reflash the firmware. So, my questions are:
1) If I reflash stock 4.0.3 using Odin, will I still retain all of my user data, app settings, SMS messages, photos, etc.?
The next two questions are somewhat related.
2) Is it worth reflashing to 4.0.3, or should I wait for the 4.0.4 OTA update to hit my device (I have the Indian version of the Note)? Will installing the OTA 4.0.4 update put back the missing components for twlauncher (e.g., Social Hub)?
3) I have disabled a lot of bloatware and processes under Settings/Applications/All. Regardless of whether I use 4.0.3 or 4.0.4, will updating the firmware still keep those processes that I marked as disabled as disabled, or will the update re-enable them? Also, will the update still automatically update those processes that I marked as disabled, or skip over them?
Thanks!

Flash a custom rom bloat free with a safe kernel.
There's a lot in development section
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Touchwiz depends on social hub widget. Keep it and delete all other crapware.

if possible make a backup first. yes it will restore back social hub when reflash of stock rom n the other apps. juz disable them back (of the bloatware or apps) that you dont want.
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Sorry, I forgot to update this thread. I was able to resolve the problem without having to reflash. It was very simple, and I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier.
My problem is that I was trying to *reinstall* the SocialHub.apk file. Instead, I simply copied the file to /system/app, changed its permission to 644, rebooted, and twlauncher worked again!
Lesson of the day: do not delete SocialHub.apk from Samsung Galaxy Note -- otherwise, Touchwiz launcher will break!.
Hopefully, someone else will find this information to be useful...

hockeyfan said:
Sorry, I forgot to update this thread. I was able to resolve the problem without having to reflash. It was very simple, and I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier.
My problem is that I was trying to *reinstall* the SocialHub.apk file. Instead, I simply copied the file to /system/app, changed its permission to 644, rebooted, and twlauncher worked again!
Lesson of the day: do not delete SocialHub.apk from Samsung Galaxy Note -- otherwise, Touchwiz launcher will break!.
Hopefully, someone else will find this information to be useful...
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Thank you so much for posting!!! I've been searching for this for weeks! My trouble is somewhat related. Every single morning I wake up, unlock my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000, gingerbread 2.3.6 and press twlauncher force close button. It does not happen during the day time though. This problem kicks in only during the night when the phone is deep asleep. I was literally going through every single application trying to find which process or service was incompatible with the stock twlauncher. However, I was smart enough to freeze social hub with my titanium back up so will have to defost it now for testing. Are you 100% sure the stock twlauncher depends on social hub? The only trouble I have is one single fc in the morning with the social hub being frozen... That's one single fc per day but every morning.. other than that there are no more poblems and the device runs just as perfect till it "goes to bed" Would highly appreciate any comments / suggestions / advices at all.

You have to delete also odexed files.

Hypernote said:
You have to delete also odexed files.
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Thank you for your comment. Do you mean delete the odexed files when I defrost the social hub back or delete the files while the social hub is still frozen? Where are these files usually located? Appreciate your time
Found the odex files.. edited the post.. I guess odex files are used to speed up the. apk ones. Is deleting them really going to help much? Aren't they just useless without original. apk files? Thankies

hockeyfan said:
Sorry, I forgot to update this thread. I was able to resolve the problem without having to reflash. It was very simple, and I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier.
My problem is that I was trying to *reinstall* the SocialHub.apk file. Instead, I simply copied the file to /system/app, changed its permission to 644, rebooted, and twlauncher worked again!
Lesson of the day: do not delete SocialHub.apk from Samsung Galaxy Note -- otherwise, Touchwiz launcher will break!.
Hopefully, someone else will find this information to be useful...
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...I just thought what if I "inject" a "healthy" twlauncher extracted from the stock rom into my device? Will that help cure my corrupt twlauncher? I would need to remove / delete my present launcher or is it going to be OK to simply place it over the old one wouldn' it? Would appreciate any help / comments at all! Many thanks!

Hi,
I have not tried it on ICS, but back when I was on Gingerbread stock, I froze the social hub using TB without issue. It is quite interesting to note that deleting the app causes the launcher to spaz out.
Of course, there might be differences in the apps between GB and ICS, but thank goodness I froze the last time instead of deleting!

Markuzy said:
Hi,
I have not tried it on ICS, but back when I was on Gingerbread stock, I froze the social hub using TB without issue. It is quite interesting to note that deleting the app causes the launcher to spaz out.
Of course, there might be differences in the apps between GB and ICS, but thank goodness I froze the last time instead of deleting!
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Hi there,
That is exactly what I suspect is happening. TwLauncher most probably has nothing to do with the social hub and thefe are no direct dependencies. I am not really sure though, I'm still testing it all around before reflashing. I also heard that the social hub had been uninstalled (not just frozen by TB) on both GB and ICS and it had no issues at all..

Klaipedaville said:
Hi there,
That is exactly what I suspect is happening. TwLauncher most probably has nothing to do with the social hub and thefe are no direct dependencies. I am not really sure though, I'm still testing it all around before reflashing. I also heard that the social hub had been uninstalled (not just frozen by TB) on both GB and ICS and it had no issues at all..
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I agree. I always uninstall social hub along with all the related applications through titanium backup on every stock rom I try. I have never had a single occasion of TW force closing for any reason.

sedohunta said:
I agree. I always uninstall social hub along with all the related applications through titanium backup on every stock rom I try. I have never had a single occasion of TW force closing for any reason.
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Yeah. However, I have tw force closing on me every morning... Do you happen to know if I extract a "healthy" tw from a rom and "inject" it over my corrupt tw right on top.. will it help? I thought it would save me the hussle of reflashing and all.. replacing just one file looks easier.. I am not an expert though so would appreciate any suggestions at all.

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Things to not do (or to think about) after Root...for now

The users. First off I want to make this very clear, I am not responsible for anything nor is droidxforums for any damages done to devices due to root, since it was up to the user to make the decisions they make. Thank you, please continue to read.
1. First off I am posting this for reasons that were obvioulsy not too obvious.
2. If you chose to delete anything other than something that can be downloaded from the market, YOU took that risk. You have potentially just bricked your device.
3. DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING THAT HAS "BLUR" IN ITS FILE NAME.
4. DO NOT try to flash a custom recovery via Rom Manager then wonder why your phone is stuck with a cool new Motorola logo.
5. This thread will be updated very frequently, before posting questions and what not, just post your problem, no questions please, I will be using this to help as many of you as possible.
6. Most importantly do not mess with the framework right now, there is many $600 papers weights laying around now.
7. DO NOT TOUCH BACK UP ASSISTANCE UNLESS ITS WINDY IN YOUR HOUSE OR OFFICE AND YOU NEED A PAPER WEIGHT.
Thank you.
B16
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Source and discussion: http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/hacking-help/1510-ultimate-wrong-doings.html
If you do remove some of the bloat and need to copy the files back without bootlooping (grdm)
Read this http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...ant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Stock DroidX software, for un-bloating and hard resets (grdm)
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/
Way to be lookin' out for your community. Props man!!!
Anyone know what the 3g mobile hotspot app is listed as in system/apps? I can't find it
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sp1kez said:
Anyone know what the 3g mobile hotspot app is listed as in system/apps? I can't find it
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Mynet.apk
P.S. don't removed backupassistanceclient.apk!!! It will result in a near brick if you try to factory reset after it has been removed.
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We tested this last nite,, you can do basically whatever you want as long as you put the phone back to pristine condition before you do a wipe or update or whatever..
Here is the basic method that works to copy files back to the phone if you took out bloat..
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1462-how-put-back-backup-assistant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Works with all system apks, though.
grdm said:
We tested this last nite,, you can do basically whatever you want as long as you put the phone back to pristine condition before you do a wipe or update or whatever..
Here is the basic method that works to copy files back to the phone if you took out bloat..
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1462-how-put-back-backup-assistant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Works with all system apks, though.
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I just saw this myself today, OP has been updated with this link
If i root, will i be excluded from the 2.2 update duke late summer?
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GoldenCyn said:
If i root, will i be excluded from the 2.2 update duke late summer?
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It seems that no one knows for sure.
People have been able to root, re-copy any removed system applications ( blockbuster, skype, etc..) apply the .604 update and stay rooted
Only time will tell for sure
I only deleted Blockbuster, Skype, NFSShift, and AmazonMP3/Kindle apps. Would I need to put those back on and unroot if I wanted to do a hard reset?
From what I hear, you need to put back ALL of the apps that came with the phone to apply the .604 update
Un-rooting doesn't seem to be necessary
Here is a thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Here is a list and downloads of all of the default DroidX apps
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515
zanix said:
From what I hear, you need to put back ALL of the apps that came with the phone to apply the .604 update
Un-rooting doesn't seem to be necessary
Here is a thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Here is a list and downloads of all of the default DroidX apps
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515
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He is correct, we have had phones with tons removed, copied everythign back with the right permissions, took out all the things that root did, basically un-rooting, apply the update, then re-root, so you will have to put the phone back to pristine before the update, but it works fine.
At least it does for now. As for the rooting, it is a huge gaping hole in linux/android, not a specific phone or phone home launcher so it will likely not be fixed until at least Gingerbread 3.0 IF THEN. Bird really smoked the monkey on this one, i would marry him if it was legal.
But yeah, dont freak out if u removed a ton of stuff, here is a complete pristine system app dir if u need:
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/
Zanix, thanks for updating into the post, i hope it ends up helping people.
Updated OP with direct link to original .apk list
Hey,
Where can I find a list of the correct permissions? I removed like 5 apps and copied them back and still the update fails.
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Check the permissions from one of the files you did not remove
I'm not 100% sure that will work
It is 644 if I recall correctly.
I think you need to check the umask for each file as well
ON the post on how to put back backup assistant it tells you the permissions for all the files in the app dir
its in the first post
So I wanted to install a status bar replacement for Droid X, which involves replacing framework-res.apk. Instead of doing it through adb, I replaced the file with Root Explorer, and it sent it into boot loop. Do I now have a paperweight? =/
I tried doing factory reset, but that didn't fix it...
Edit: It sees update.zip on my SD card in recovery mode (some file I think I downloaded before), so is there a way to maybe apply a recovery command to replace framework-res.apk?
Edit2: sigh, nvm, there is no update.zip on the SD card, I'm not sure where it's reading it from. But when I tell it to apply it, it doesn't find it either. Looks like I bricked my phone
Has anyone been using Autostarts to block the bloat from loading on boot?
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The Titanium Backup "Freeze" feature has been working like a charm for me. I've frozen all of the bloatware (the autorun stuff) and seen no adverse effects on the phone.
The phone seems to perform better without the running bloat. But this might be a placebo effect. The jury is still out...I'm testing. One thing is for sure, I feel better knowing that useless extra processes are not running in the background.
The big open question for me is how does the TB Freeze function work? Is it like the task killers or does it intercept the app on boot?
It does not change anything in the root directory since all the *.apk files are in tact for the frozen apps. This is the main reason I use the freeze since there seems to be little risk of bricking the phone with this method.

[Q] Samsung Captivate Broke After Removing Bloatware

I took off all the AT&T applications from my phone, and now my phone can't download anything. Everytime it tries to, it says
"android.process.media has closed unexpectedly"
and it makes me force close it. I am new to android and am horrified that my new phone is broken. Please help me! If any of you have a backup of the AT&T applications that I deleted, or if you know of any way to completely restore the OS to factory defaults I would be very pleased. Thank you in advance.
Download Odin in the Development section and reflash back to Stock. JF6 is the stock firmware for the Captivate. I dont know what you took off to cause that but my phone does not have the bloatware and works perfectly!
Cheers,
Charlie
Good possibility that you removed the TWLauncher because I got the same FC issue afterwards. Just like the previous post mentioned, just use the one click odin in the dev forums to restore your phone.
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There is a file called media hub or media provider or something, and if you remove or rename it your phone will go crazy. At least i had similar issues once before.
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bobbylx said:
There is a file called media hub or media provider or something, and if you remove or rename it your phone will go crazy. At least i had similar issues once before.
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Its not media hub, that is just the site for samsung when they get their stuff working to download stuff. It could be the other one but just use odin from the app/dev section.
well I had something very similar happen to me and reflashing back to stock worker, but I also heard that reinstalling the stock android market fixed the problem. Not sure where to get the apk, but I'm sure you could find it somewhere.

[Q] Note functioning very slow

my phone is working very slowly and hanging alot! what should i do to mae it work properly! i am on riginal firmware and non rooted! please help guys!
Clean cache. Delete unnecessary apps and content. Use task manager to kill apps you don't use. Remove widgets that you don't need from all home screens.
Also, try installing some kind of activity monitor and check your CPU load, maybe one of your apps is constantly draining cpu power.
If nothing helps, back-up your data and do a factory reset, that will make your phone as fast as it can go on stock rom.
Also i would highly recommend flashing ICS if you don't need Samsung apps - as it's much faster.
hey thanks alot for ur help...but ICS is not officially out for note right? i am a noob in rooting and all...so i wanna do it the official way!
Goto settings/privacy/factory restore.
It will wipe your phone so take back up before if you need to with titanium backup or something. Then of restoring, don't restore any system settings.
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neerajk said:
hey thanks alot for ur help...but ICS is not officially out for note right? i am a noob in rooting and all...so i wanna do it the official way!
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Yes, it's not out yet. You have to wait from 1 week to 2 months, nobody knows when will Samsung push the update. For now, i guess factory reset will help - remember to back up!
neerajk said:
my phone is working very slowly and hanging alot! what should i do to mae it work properly! i am on riginal firmware and non rooted! please help guys!
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There are several reasons this can happen. The ones mentioned above are definitely likely:
One or more apps running all the time. Prevent these by uninstalling, freezing, or disabling their event listeners. For much of this you may require Root access.
Too many widgets. This will generally slow any launcher down, although I am not sure they will slow anything else.
And this one I have read and noticed myself:
The system 'power saving' mode is set. This is at Settings -> Power Saving. I turn this off as it makes the phone lag badly.

[Q] [rooted] How to remove bloatware?

I just got this phone last Friday. It's my first Android phone, but I've used Android before on my Kindle Fire, which I rooted and tried all sorts of ROMs and customized the hell out of it.
So I was really excited today when I found out about the root package! I just got it rooted, had to factory reset first, but that's OK. But since my phone is a Canada Bell model (and I live in the US), it's a got a bunch of apps that I can't use and don't want.
I googled and found a site that gives a tutorial how to use Android Mate to remove the crapware, but in searching through /system/apps, I don't see the Bell stuff, maybe I missed it or it's named something different.
Any tried doing this yet?
Instead of removing them, I suggest you freeze them with titanium backup. Download it from play store, open it, click restore/backup, tap the app you don't want and select freeze. It saves headache and it's not like our phone has a lack of free memory
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capran said:
I just got this phone last Friday. It's my first Android phone, but I've used Android before on my Kindle Fire, which I rooted and tried all sorts of ROMs and customized the hell out of it.
So I was really excited today when I found out about the root package! I just got it rooted, had to factory reset first, but that's OK. But since my phone is a Canada Bell model (and I live in the US), it's a got a bunch of apps that I can't use and don't want.
I googled and found a site that gives a tutorial how to use Android Mate to remove the crapware, but in searching through /system/apps, I don't see the Bell stuff, maybe I missed it or it's named something different.
Any tried doing this yet?
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To answer your question, and not give unwanted advice, the apks you're looking for will be located in /vendor/app
ATGAdmin said:
To answer your question, and not give unwanted advice, the apks you're looking for will be located in /vendor/app
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Found them, but it won't let me delete, keeps saying they're read only ;(
Hemotherapy said:
Found them, but it won't let me delete, keeps saying they're read only ;(
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You need to switch to r/w in whatever explorer you're in. Either that, or you're not rooted
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System Tuner allows you to uninstall system apps as. Forgot that setcpu wakes up the phone a lot when profiles are active but system tuner is also good for underclocking.
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Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.
dnorthington said:
Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.
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How do you get back all the Stock apps?
[ QUOTE=dnorthington;33064453]Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.[/QUOTE]
In case you haven't been paying attention to the update schedule, here it is http://phandroid.com/2012/10/19/mot...-updates-jelly-bean-release-schedule-as-well/
We won't be getting JB until next year.
If we don't have a recovery program by then to flash ROMs, this phone won't be worth keeping.
So your point is moot.
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Good day friends,
I did erase APK's from /system/app and /system/vendor/app and /system/preinstalled/, but, i till get the icons for att familymap, amazon kindle, live tv, mesages, myatt, qik lite and real racing2.
Is there anything else i am missing in order to get rid of this apps ?
I do understand the phone has enough resources to carry these apps around, but i just dont like having stuff that i dont really use.
Also, I know how to fastboot to fxz in case i screw something up.
Use titanium to un install them
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alright then, ill give it a shot !
Yep, a combination of TiBu and rm -r did the trick ! thank you very much !
I went crazy after root and deleted almost all bloatware...
However I realized that after deleting YP mobile stock app, the option in contacts for YP does not work
I re-downloaded YP from the market but it's still no go...
Can somebody upload stock YP apk and tell me where to put it since I am not sure was it in system/app or in system/vendor/app
Or at least if you can give me name of the original stock app and its location I can try to rename the one from the market and move it to its appropriate folder.
Thanks
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Good day friends,
I did erase APK's from /system/app and /system/vendor/app and /system/preinstalled/, but, i till get the icons for att familymap, amazon kindle, live tv, mesages, myatt, qik lite and real racing2.
Is there anything else i am missing in order to get rid of this apps ?
I do understand the phone has enough resources to carry these apps around, but i just dont like having stuff that i dont really use.
Also, I know how to fastboot to fxz in case i screw something up.
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As mentioned already, look in /system/vendor/app
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Addition
I have made a new idea on removing bloatwares. The idea is that the user can select the apps that are to be deleted in aroma. I have already made a project regarding this but only for my device. You can port it to your device and maybe share this with everyone.
Link to my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632355
With some changes, it will work great and our community can develop!!

[Q] slow boot

I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.
vega509 said:
I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.
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The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
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[@ = at (example i was @ Daniels place last night)/ name marker (example @me4488)]
me4488 said:
The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
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[@ = at (example i was @ Daniels place last night)/ name marker (example @me4488)]
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to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
vega509 said:
to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
Remember to always Hit Thanks when people help you, and whenever you use someones work, or if you appreciates someone work, and also the verifications stop after 10 posts i think, which is when you are able to post in the development section as well
penguin449 said:
Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
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I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be uninstalling the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.
vega509 said:
I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be installing the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.
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The backups that you take from recovery are called nandroid backups For the lockscreen, take a backup of the apk in your sdcard then delete it from system/app. If it works then great, if not then paste your apk back to system/app You are doing this at your own risk!
vega509 said:
to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.
me4488 said:
You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.
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I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.
aashay960 said:
I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.
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At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
me4488 said:
At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i just keep a backup of apps and sms and contacts as ive only got an 8gb sd before a 2gb :crying:
me4488 said:
At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i do neither, i have no back ups, currently my phone is just sitting in fastboot somewhere in my room waiting for the CM7 kernel.. until then i just don't bother using it xD I have my 4x, Galaxy w, and my new (old) hTC Dream
thanks to all who have helped!!
I have uninstalled 69 apps that are either bloatware from Bell and HTC, or are apps I would never use. I used Titanium to freeze the apps 1st, and see if there were any ill effects. Once I determined that what was froze did not affect any other apps, I backed up the frozen apps (batch), and then uninstalled the frozen apps (batch again).
One big plus by using Titanium to remove bloatware was when the uninstall finished, it did not uninstall 2 of the apps I had froze, getting info on these apps showed they were tied to the ROM, Picasa Web Album, and Google Play Music.
Updating CWM to the latest 6.0.3.0 was also a bonus, as ROM Manager now works for Nandroid backups without having to reboot manually (remove and replace the battery).
I will eventually get around to trying custom ROM's when time permits. For now I'm trying different apps such as calendars, keyboards, and launchers. With the multitudes of available apps, anyone have suggestions for keyboards, calendars, and launchers. I've just installed NovaLauncher and ClockQ.
When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall the same apps that came with the phone?
thanks again to all.
Well keyboard I use stock cm10 don't use calender and for launcher switch between holo launcher HD and sf launcher
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Launcher. Nova. Always.
Keyboard. SwiftKey. Always
Clock. Android 4.2 clock. Look in the themes and apps section.
Edit - If you use another launcher than you can not use htc widgets.. So as i use nova, i always use player pro as a music player.
vega509 said:
When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall or freeze the same apps that came with the phone?
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for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?
vega509 said:
for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?
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Have a look . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897286
Backup, uninstall, if it causes problems restore.

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