I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.
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I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.
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The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
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me4488 said:
The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
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to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
vega509 said:
to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
Remember to always Hit Thanks when people help you, and whenever you use someones work, or if you appreciates someone work, and also the verifications stop after 10 posts i think, which is when you are able to post in the development section as well
penguin449 said:
Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
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I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be uninstalling the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.
vega509 said:
I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be installing the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.
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The backups that you take from recovery are called nandroid backups For the lockscreen, take a backup of the apk in your sdcard then delete it from system/app. If it works then great, if not then paste your apk back to system/app You are doing this at your own risk!
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to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.
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You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.
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I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.
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I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.
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At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i just keep a backup of apps and sms and contacts as ive only got an 8gb sd before a 2gb :crying:
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At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i do neither, i have no back ups, currently my phone is just sitting in fastboot somewhere in my room waiting for the CM7 kernel.. until then i just don't bother using it xD I have my 4x, Galaxy w, and my new (old) hTC Dream
thanks to all who have helped!!
I have uninstalled 69 apps that are either bloatware from Bell and HTC, or are apps I would never use. I used Titanium to freeze the apps 1st, and see if there were any ill effects. Once I determined that what was froze did not affect any other apps, I backed up the frozen apps (batch), and then uninstalled the frozen apps (batch again).
One big plus by using Titanium to remove bloatware was when the uninstall finished, it did not uninstall 2 of the apps I had froze, getting info on these apps showed they were tied to the ROM, Picasa Web Album, and Google Play Music.
Updating CWM to the latest 6.0.3.0 was also a bonus, as ROM Manager now works for Nandroid backups without having to reboot manually (remove and replace the battery).
I will eventually get around to trying custom ROM's when time permits. For now I'm trying different apps such as calendars, keyboards, and launchers. With the multitudes of available apps, anyone have suggestions for keyboards, calendars, and launchers. I've just installed NovaLauncher and ClockQ.
When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall the same apps that came with the phone?
thanks again to all.
Well keyboard I use stock cm10 don't use calender and for launcher switch between holo launcher HD and sf launcher
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Launcher. Nova. Always.
Keyboard. SwiftKey. Always
Clock. Android 4.2 clock. Look in the themes and apps section.
Edit - If you use another launcher than you can not use htc widgets.. So as i use nova, i always use player pro as a music player.
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When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall or freeze the same apps that came with the phone?
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for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?
vega509 said:
for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?
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Have a look . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897286
Backup, uninstall, if it causes problems restore.
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I am about to wipe install Darky's new rom and would like a way to restore apps without having to reinstall each one individually.
What are the general feeling on resorting apps via titanium?
If I use titanium will the apps still receive automatic market updates?
Also can anyone recommend a good way of backing up contacts?
All advice is welcome!
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contacts i use googlemail...
for cleaner results just restore user no system apps.
if you go for darky 10 i wouldn't restore apps at all or just selected fresh install where ever you can...
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Had my SGS for three months on 3 in the UK.
In the first week I flashed the 2.2.1 update.
Brilliant phone, but then 2 days ago it suddenly went very wired, 1-3 buzzing, buzz pause buzz buzz buzz everything crashing and rebooting didn't help.
So I did a factory reset (reboot vol up + home + power) which of course wiped everything.... not even market worked.
I had a user folder with various essential files, including the titanium apk
Titanium restore all apps and data, sit back and wait around 20/30 minutes.
Phone restored EXACTLY as it was before, including placement of icons and everything down to the last detail.
A "Backup" generally in computing terms is like a parachute, you have no use at all for it until you need it, and then you'd better have one, and it better work.
Titanium backup worked, 100%, cannot fault it in any way whatsoever, if you only buy one apk, buy this.
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Sms backup plus which backed up all my calls and SMS and storing all my contacts to google/gmail and not sim card, and googe calendar probably helped a lot.
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I have titanium set to 7 backups, one a day per week, rolling.
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The only thing I am missing is a backup solution that backs up over the USB to a PC and which backs up absolutely everything on the phone, system and all.
As far as I know there is no ready made solution to this need?
Thanks Johnny, much appreciated mate!
So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?
taurui said:
So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?
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i would highly recomment not to restore system settings when upgrading to a new fw.
also titanium can't help if you f*ed up your system you should make a nandroid backup for that..
nandroid =safety
titanium=makes life easier but sometimes makes problems
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Ok, so there's no way to keep the contacts-pictures when upgrading to a new firmware without risking system stability? That sucks
Hi, a small question.
As some of you here that uses Rocket rom and has been flashing every new update by Eybee, i have settings made for apps that i uses, i usually do a fullwipe, and it's tedious to redo all settings from ground up once i flash and redownloading apps. Are there ways i could save the apps and it's settings at the same time, hence i do not need to redo everything for every fullwipe/flash?
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Hi, a small question.
As some of you here that uses Rocket rom and has been flashing every new update by Eybee, i have settings made for apps that i uses, i usually do a fullwipe, and it's tedious to redo all settings from ground up once i flash and redownloading apps. Are there ways i could save the apps and it's settings at the same time, hence i do not need to redo everything for every fullwipe/flash?
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Titanium Backup
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Titanium Backup
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Yes. Redo backups for new data. Some apps won't hold it no matter what.
System settings is something I don't do a restore for just to be safe. I can have all my regular settings loaded in no time now.
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative as it doesnot backup up system apps.. i have been using it without troubles for a long time.. just love it.. TB.. im not in...
prudviraj said:
I'd Suggest mybackup pro as a better alternative as it doesnot backup up system apps.. i have been using it without troubles for a long time.. just love it.. TB.. im not in...
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TB doesn't back up system apps by default. You can have it backup whatever you want though. Years ago I paid for it so I still use it. Can't comment on the other as I haven't felt the need to try anything else.
Hey, I was using Beast 7/1/13 and it worked great,
used pimp my rom, voodoo sound, semaphore manager, rom toolbox lite
after i installed the new beast rom my apps suddenly force closes... everyone one of them.
the first error i see is,
Unfortunately, the process android.process.acore has stopped.
I have no idea what to do!!!
wiped/formated everything and resroted the rom with the nandroid backup from before the update but everything still keeping to force close and that message is running everytime
EDIT:
googled my issue and someone said the fix is to wipe the contacts storage, i did and it worked... so if there is an admin here, you can close this thread!
That is a common failure when switching Roms. Sometimes you can destroy your filesystem with restoring the app data too. So flash again and this time restore apps without the appdata.
Before you reflash you can try to delete those app data. Everytime when i got this it has helped. I never busted my whole filesystem. Let me know if this works for you too.
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That is a common failure when switching Roms. Sometimes you can destroy your filesystem with restoring the app data too. So flash again and this time restore apps without the appdata.
Before you reflash you can try to delete those app data. Everytime when i got this it has helped. I never busted my whole filesystem. Let me know if this works for you too.
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First of all thanks.
How can i delete the app data before re-flashing/ re-flash without the app data?
And by the way, it's weird... I thought that when i upgrade from 2 builds of the same rom it should work fine... :S
I think i understood what your saying... your talking about clean flashing and then using titanium backup to get my apps back?
you're welcome.
i don't know the beast rom. I use Elites 4.2.1 Beta.. (btw did you tried elites rom? Do you know how it is compared to Beast?)
but my way to get the app info is long pressing the app on the app drawer and when it gets to the homescreen i move it to the app-info panel. That'S the easiest and fastest way.
Normal way would be settings --> apps ---> tap on the app you want
once there you hit "delete data" Sometimes a reboot is needed. Or try it 2 times. Or if the first didn't work do it again and then reboot.
This shouldn't happen when you just update your beast rom. But sometimes it does on the Elite roms too. Not often but it happened. The biggest screw up was when i changed from ELite to Cyanogen mod.
right i talk about clean flashing and Titanium Backup you just flashed the update rom without doing 3 wipes right?
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if yes the best way would be to do a clean flash again. And than if you got problems with your backed up apps try what i have said. Are u using Titanium?
cheers
Samuel Sung said:
you're welcome.
i don't know the beast rom. I use Elites 4.2.1 Beta.. (btw did you tried elites rom? Do you know how it is compared to Beast?)
but my way to get the app info is long pressing the app on the app drawer and when it gets to the homescreen i move it to the app-info panel. That'S the easiest and fastest way.
Normal way would be settings --> apps ---> tap on the app you want
once there you hit "delete data" Sometimes a reboot is needed. Or try it 2 times. Or if the first didn't work do it again and then reboot.
This shouldn't happen when you just update your beast rom. But sometimes it does on the Elite roms too. Not often but it happened. The biggest screw up was when i changed from ELite to Cyanogen mod.
right i talk about clean flashing and Titanium Backup you just flashed the update rom without doing 3 wipes right?
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if yes the best way would be to do a clean flash again. And than if you got problems with your backed up apps try what i have said. Are u using Titanium?
cheers
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Don't know elite roms... you got i9000 right?
I was just upgrading builds so i didn't do a clean install... now i'm kinda mad about myself for not backing up my titanium as often as my titanium backup as often as i backup my nandroid... i think i'm gonna backup all info, do a clean install and restore everything without the data... hope it'll go out well... learning my lesson i guess
Edit: another thing that comes into mind is restoring my 27/12 titanium backup backup (XD) and then working my way up from there..
Edit 2: My whatsapp says that my internal storage is too low while i got 800mb free... :S and now after clearing the data in titanium backup and re-working it it fc's again.
Edit 3 and last: I ended up doing a clean install and learning that i should backup my titanium backup more often since i now have to restore from 27/12
I got a general enquiry, if I am currently on a trickdroid custom rom and wanted to flash ARHD, do I make a nandroid back up then full wipe before flashing ARHD? But when I restore the nandroid, does it revert me back to trickdroid since the nandroid backup was built using the data of trickdroid?
My goal is to change Roms but also able to retain apps and settings that I have set in my last Rom.
I just downloaded titanium backup too.
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Nandroid is a complete backup of /system /data and boot.img. You want titanium backup to retain data from rom to rom.
I have read a few threads but wasn't sure, thank you for confirming this. Much appreciated.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
Cloudyherb said:
Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
gunnyman said:
Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
Cloudyherb said:
This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
gunnyman said:
Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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And then using HTC and dropbox to restore your apps? But using TiBU to restore the apps settings over?
The user data have to be input manually, correct?
I use HTC sync then tibu to restorethe data and any apps it may have missed.
What is the best way to backup so after I do anything I can get back?
TWRP or CWM, can we even do CWM on this phone?
TWRP is just fine. Does a great job.
But if you're addicted to installing a lot of ROM's and want to backup apps and their saves/settings, I would recommend Titanium Backup (if you're rooted). Easy to dump all your apps the way they were on any new set up.
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TWRP is just fine. Does a great job.
But if you're addicted to installing a lot of ROM's and want to backup apps and their saves/settings, I would recommend Titanium Backup (if you're rooted). Easy to dump all your apps the way they were on any new set up.
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I think Titanium Backup is kinda borked now. At least one of the ROM developers explicitly says not to use it, and two times I tried using it with Note 4, it was extremely frustrating. It would perform a backup just fine, but while restoring it would get stuck on this app or that. So you had to reboot after every 3-5 apps restored. Some of the restored apps would not work and had to be uninstalled and reinstalled. Others reported corrupted ROMs.
On one of recent app sales I got My Backup Pro for free. It seems to have some of the same functionality. I will give it a shot next time I am changing ROMs.
Not 100% sure. But it looks like you can do cwm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/cwm-note-4-t2927474/post56470611#post56470611
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I think Titanium Backup is kinda borked now. At least one of the ROM developers explicitly says not to use it, and two times I tried using it with Note 4, it was extremely frustrating. It would perform a backup just fine, but while restoring it would get stuck on this app or that. So you had to reboot after every 3-5 apps restored. Some of the restored apps would not work and had to be uninstalled and reinstalled. Others reported corrupted ROMs...
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I haven't seen anything. I have had a few paused on me but I would close it and restart to finish the left overs. Back on the Note 3, we had the same problem on a few devices. Some has tried the TB Fixer. Dont know if it'll work on the Note 4.
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I haven't seen anything. I have had a few paused on me but I would close it and restart to finish the left overs. Back on the Note 3, we had the same problem on a few devices. Some has tried the TB Fixer. Dont know if it'll work on the Note 4.
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I guess the problems are not universal. Here's the linky to the discussion.