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Porting Atrix Web top app

So as far as I can tell right now the only major difference in the Atrix and Bionic is the ram. Also looking at the dock connectors the only thing it looks like it uses is HDMI port and USB port on the phone. I know it's early on and it's most likely going to be one of the most sought after things right now, but what do you guys think of the possibility of porting the webtop app over to the Bionic? Also how important do you think the ram difference is in relation to running Webtop?
From what I read the webtop app is suppose to run all the time so that you can remove and replace in the dock with no requirements to start it so its in a constant on suspended state. Which leads me to think if it's possible to port the app if we can open the app on command could possibly lead to better results with the limited ram, if the ram cause a problem with running the app.
Just looking for other opinions on the matter as I plan on looking into the workings of it and see if it's like the Garmin app that people have been trying to port over for awhile that has come to be yet.

Isn't the webtop a bit more than just an Android app? I imagine it'd be fairly difficult to port. And I'm assuming a Bionic won't fit in the laptop accessory, so that might cause additional challenge... actually using it. Have to mod the accessory's shape, or connect if via a cord.

ocdtrekkie said:
Isn't the webtop a bit more than just an Android app? I imagine it'd be fairly difficult to port. And I'm assuming a Bionic won't fit in the laptop accessory, so that might cause additional challenge... actually using it. Have to mod the accessory's shape, or connect if via a cord.
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well from the pics that i have seen the droidx should fit in the atrix dock so if the webtop app can be ported i can see it going to the X

The webtopp app is suppose to be (atleast according to Moto reps during CES) a cloud computing environment from Motorola so porting it will not be possible.

...Sanjay Jha has just told investors at a Morgan Stanley shindig that the Atrix won't be unique for long -- the Webtop app will be making an appearance on all of Moto's "high performance" smartphones in the second half of this year...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/28/motorola-all-our-high-end-smartphones-will-have-webtop-from-jun/

Hardware is CLOSE to fitting
Not just a matter of porting the APK. I have an X, Atrix and the laptop dock. The plugs look the same and I almost forced them in before looking closely and the USB and HDMI ports are flipped around on the Atrix and dock.
I sure had my hopes up for a few mins though!
-Beesoc

This is old info in this thread and so I'd thought I'd update it.
Motorola's CEO has already stated the webtop will be available for the Bionic sometime after it ships.
The webtop 'app' isn't so much an app but more of a suite of apps. It actually is a lite version of Ubuntu (I think 8.04) running as a guest OS simultaneously with Android. The apks that exist for webtop exist solely to provide an 'android experience' to the guest OS. There is a monitor app that watches the ports to detect when it is plugged into a webtop-enabled dock. There is a content provider app that provides an interface to various data on the Android OS (like contacts, emails, calendar, etc). And there is a portal app that (I think) projects the webtop OS display to HDMI.
The OS can be accessed on the phone by installing a vncserver in the ubuntu OS and using a client on the phone or on a networked device.
It won't be hard to port. The APKs handling the guest OS have already been hacked to remove the dock requirement for activating it.

[Q] Possible full linux distro?

All locked bootloader possibilties asside, in the best possible senario I'd like to know if the webtop could be replaced by a full Debian (or other distro) install without messing up the way it merges with Android and the 10 foot gui.
Now obviously with the phone still waiting to be released I can't and won't expect an actual answer till some devs can get their hands on a rom. So for now, I just want to hear people's opinions on the matter.
Good idea? Bad idea? Waste of a thread? IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAM?! What do you guys think?

Motorola reps have indicated that the Webtop environment is Debian based, the Firefox about window mentions Ubuntu - either way I'm hoping the dpkg package manager is present and adding software is as easy as getting root on the device and then adding some packages. If I can do that I won't care about a "full distro" install, I just want to add a few packages for software I'm interested in. And doing so shouldn't interfere with the custom window manager / webtop features.

If dpkg works this would be great.
I think replacing the distro would be complicated cause a lot of features would go missing. For example the freezing of the session.
One thing I don't understand is why Firefox is used instead of Chrome...
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I'm guessing it's because of Firefox's lower memory footprint when dealing with lots of tabs. Hard to say though. I'd prefer Chrome, but Firefox does make some sense in this environment.

The desktop version of Chrome requires an x86/amd64 processor for the V8 Javascript engine. Obviously there are Android / ARM versions of Chrome in existence but you would need to do some porting / tweaking to get the high-performance Javascript engine working, which is one of the main reasons people like Chrome. So I'm sure it was much easier to just take the work Ubuntu had already done to get Firefox running on Linux/ARM.

I wonder if a ChromeOS port could be posible...?

I really think that Ubuntu 's focus on the new touchscreen interface is going to end up being used a lot in something like this in other Android phones and tablets.
I'm currently writing an article about the Atrix for Techerator.com and I think it's going to give some good insight into what the future holds. Check it out in a week or so.
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Rastor said:
The desktop version of Chrome requires an x86/amd64 processor for the V8 Javascript engine. Obviously there are Android / ARM versions of Chrome in existence but you would need to do some porting / tweaking to get the high-performance Javascript engine working, which is one of the main reasons people like Chrome. So I'm sure it was much easier to just take the work Ubuntu had already done to get Firefox running on Linux/ARM.
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You already have webkit in a standard android environment.
If the target arch is armv7+vfp ++, then v8 is on by default.
A full blown chromium would only, probably make sense for a tablet, but not for a phone.

Thanks for correcting me! That's good to know.
I would think full-blown Chromium makes as much sense as full-blown Firefox, which is included.

Rastor said:
Thanks for correcting me! That's good to know.
I would think full-blown Chromium makes as much sense as full-blown Firefox, which is included.
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I agree. Not to mention the convenience of Google Sync.
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I wonder if it will run java?
(MINECRAFT!!!)
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tiwey said:
I wonder if it will run java?
(MINECRAFT!!!)
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I need Java, I'd love to be able to run TunerStudioMS to play with the standalone in my car ( danger to the manifold )

Canocial Making Ubuntu Based Webtop Competitor

For those of you who are mad the Droid 3 doesn't have Webtop, Canonical is making a competitor and I imagine the Droid 3 will be able to run it. It meets the specs, not sure about USB host but everything else. I imagine you could use bluetooth for keyboard/mouse as well. I wonder if it will be possible to get something like this working on the Droid 3.
-Dual-core 1GHz CPU
-Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
-Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
-HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
-USB host mode
-512 MB RAM
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This isn't just running Ubuntu on your phone's hardware, its access to your Android apps through the regular Ubuntu UI. Looks exciting, read more:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

Okay that sounds insanely cool!

MrObvious said:
Okay that sounds insanely cool!
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thanks for stating the MrObvious
Obviously its HYPER COOL !!

Cant wait. Hope it works out!!! I was thinking of getting an Atrix because i love webtop
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HYPER COOL indeed
This was cool as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415166
Worked perfectly for me ik not the same thing but if your bored and like ubuntu id recommend trying it.

There is a video out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0
First thing I noticed is the demo is running on a blur'd Atrix 2 which means no custom kernel or ROM is needed.
At this point it looks like there is a pretty good chance the Droid 3, Bionic, Razr, etc will be able to run this.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
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It's gonna be sweeeeeeeet.
Ditto on the shut up and take my money.

Silber said Ubuntu for Android would be released under an open source license, but that Canonical expects it to mostly be pre-installed on specific hardware.
"We'll want to optimise for certain hardware profiles and chips," she said. "It simply wouldn't be the same experience on a downloaded install."
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Source: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/373024/canonical-puts-ubuntu-on-android-smartphones
So it will be open source and not OEM only. I was thinking it would be open source since its Ubuntu but you can never be sure.
As far as optimizing it for hardware, hopefully the fact that the phone they demoed it on has the same exact OMAP/PowerVR SoC that is on the Droid 3 means the source will be most optimized for that hardware. In the demo it looked like a nearly finished project.

spunker88 said:
There is a video out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0
First thing I noticed is the demo is running on a blur'd Atrix 2 which means no custom kernel or ROM is needed.
At this point it looks like there is a pretty good chance the Droid 3, Bionic, Razr, etc will be able to run this.
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Video is down, You guys think it could mean something?

SeiferTV said:
Video is down, You guys think it could mean something?
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It was a private video (only those with link can view). It had several phone #s not blurred out in the video so chances are it was meant to be shared internally only.

I found a new link to the video:
http://youtu.be/3pZUCKt0RKc
Edit: On a second thought, if it contains not blurred information, should I edit out the link?

Say this does come to pass and it's possible to load it up on the D3. Which dock can you use? The only ones I can find don't allow a USB connection.

spivey76 said:
Say this does come to pass and it's possible to load it up on the D3. Which dock can you use? The only ones I can find don't allow a USB connection.
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I'm hoping it would be possible to get it working with just HDMI output and no dock. I don't know if the Droid 3 supports USB OTG host mode, but it does allow bluetooth keyboards and mice simultaneously so hopefully that would be an option.
The Droid 3 works with the lapdock/webtop hardware wise according to this youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OclL-KISYWI

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They also said it would come preinstalled on some phones, because it needs some optimization to run smoothly. Read that on The Verge
Still, pretty cool thing! Hope someone port that to the D3 (and consequently the M3 too =P)
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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spunker88 said:
I'm hoping it would be possible to get it working with just HDMI output and no dock. I don't know if the Droid 3 supports USB OTG host mode, but it does allow bluetooth keyboards and mice simultaneously so hopefully that would be an option.
The Droid 3 works with the lapdock/webtop hardware wise according to this youtube video below.
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That looks promising, although in the comments someone stated he might have modded it. The OP didn't reply so who knows.
I hadn't even considered bluetooth peripherals, but they work just as well.

AragornPE said:
They also said it would come preinstalled on some phones, because it needs some optimization to run smoothly. Read that on The Verge
Still, pretty cool thing! Hope someone port that to the D3 (and consequently the M3 too =P)
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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I'm hoping that they release the source which has already been optimized for the demo phone, the Atrix 2 since it has the same OMAP4430 that the Droid 3 and a lot of other devices have.

New video, sounds like it won't be a easy task to custom install it ( for people with handsets that don't have it stock-installed ) : ( ( although, "In Devs We Trust" )

SeiferTV said:
New video, sounds like it won't be a easy task to custom install it ( for people with handsets that don't have it stock-installed ) : ( ( although, "In Devs We Trust" )
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He made it sound somewhat like Android source is, it will be available but the average user can't just install it on a device and expect it to work. Hopefully the devs here can make it work. The biggest limitation for us is going to be only 512MB of RAM, besides for that the demo phone has the same hardware as the Droid 3. It may not be a multitasking device, but I imagine things could be done on the Linux side to cut memory usage, possibly even switching to a lighter Ubuntu forked distro. It would still be useful as is for simple web browsing, a real office suite (LibreOffice), a real media player (VLC), etc.

No webtop?

I thought it had it and that it was compatible with the 100 dock? The specs listed up top on xda say otherwise...

teeth_03 said:
I thought it had it and that it was compatible with the 100 dock? The specs listed up top on xda say otherwise...
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Nope I was wondering that too especially after seeing the video reviews and when they would hit About Phone I didn't see the Webtop section. And this article confirm it. http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-atrix-hd-webtop-lapdock-not-supported-101012/

Nope...
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Great, now at&t has no new webtop phones, and i use them due to the rural area of the US i live in.
Id go to verizon in a heartbeat, but we dont get their service in the mountains...

No webtop is a bummer, no nfc no fm radio either.
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Maybe I should tale this thing back.....buncha Debby downers in here
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Doesn't need webtop
The A HD hooks up to hdtv via hdmi. Just gor finishing watching One Piece but I can't wait till it grts rooted! !!!!!

First picture is proof its the Atrix HD.
Second picture is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.

how the
kulow said:
This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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how did u get it to work... did u used different cables to hook it up???

No, I just used the stock connector with the Lapdock 500. It's only doing hdmi mirroring though...not really "working" as other devices do.

Ok gottcha!!!!
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kulow said:
This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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Does the Lapdock 500's camera work for Skype?

kulow said:
This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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It's only HDMI mirror because Webtop OS is not installed.
You'd need to find a motorola stock rom, mount it and use a file browser to extract The Webtop.apk
Simply installing the APK wouldnt work either because Webtop requires it's own partition on internal storage. Webtop OS is another operating system running ON TOP of Android. I dont see it working for our phone. This idea WORKS in theory, but I dont see anyone with a non motorola phone using a webtop mod. So its probably slim chance we'll see a working Webtop on the Atrix HD

Can anyone get me the apk's for webtop on another motorola device running ICS?
I'd be willing to try my hand at taking the apk apart and all that fun stuff.

They probably didnt add the webtop because they decided to downgrade to 8GB of storage, like there is much of a price difference between 8 and 16GB of flash memory these days...

teeth_03 said:
They probably didnt add the webtop because they decided to downgrade to 8GB of storage, like there is much of a price difference between 8 and 16GB of flash memory these days...
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Exactly, plus the whole webtop OS didnt sell as well as they'd hope under AT&T and the idea is dying off with Verizon.
@kulow:
Having the webtop APK is useless. It contains nothing about the OS. It's only a bridge to start it up when your plugged in.
WebOS sits on internal storage and a separate Operating System. It needs to be extracted and configured just like an Operating system.
Having the APK will just launch an App that will search for a non-existent Partition.
If you want it, go get an Image of a stock rom, mount it and use a file explorer to find the *.*apk
With only 8gb on our phone I could see Webtop taking up to 4gb since it needs its own partition. It's also very RAM hungry.
There is no use in trying to even fathom working on webtop when we have the issue of no Root and the Locked Bootloader.

Kedakari said:
@kulow:
Having the webtop APK is useless. It contains nothing about the OS. It's only a bridge to start it up when your plugged in.
WebOS sits on internal storage and a separate Operating System. It needs to be extracted and configured just like an Operating system.
Having the APK will just launch an App that will search for a non-existent Partition.
If you want it, go get an Image of a stock rom, mount it and use a file explorer to find the *.*apk
With only 8gb on our phone I could see Webtop taking up to 4gb since it needs its own partition. It's also very RAM hungry.
There is no use in trying to even fathom working on webtop when we have the issue of no Root and the Locked Bootloader.
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Well I've been doing some digging around on the Droid Razr forums and noticed that Webtop 3.0 for ICS was less webtop and more of a tablet view. Right now when you dock it does a mirror of your screen. I know this is probably way beyond my knowledge but the possibility of digging in to the structure and code of some of the apks involved with webtop 3.0 would lead us to a more tablet optimized view when connected to a lapdock.
Another thought was, when root/bootloader unlock happens, was to manually create the ext3 osh partition called by webtop and place the required files found in the osh partition from a similar device like the Razr.
I'm a novice at this so right now it's all baseless ideas that may prove to be impossible to do, but what is impossible for some may be possible for others.

kulow said:
Well I've been doing some digging around on the Droid Razr forums and noticed that Webtop 3.0 for ICS was less webtop and more of a tablet view. Right now when you dock it does a mirror of your screen. I know this is probably way beyond my knowledge but the possibility of digging in to the structure and code of some of the apks involved with webtop 3.0 would lead us to a more tablet optimized view when connected to a lapdock.
Another thought was, when root/bootloader unlock happens, was to manually create the ext3 osh partition called by webtop and place the required files found in the osh partition from a similar device like the Razr.
I'm a novice at this so right now it's all baseless ideas that may prove to be impossible to do, but what is impossible for some may be possible for others.
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If we could make a browser just for the resolution of mirrored mode, all you would need is a BT Keyboard&Mouse.
That would use way less resources on the device, and it would defeat the purpose of WebTop OS being installed and wasting all that space.

Is webtop 3.0 even considered a seperate OS?

teeth_03 said:
Is webtop 3.0 even considered a seperate OS?
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Technically yes and no.
Yes, because its a linux shell running off a partition under Android.
No, because it still requires Android to run.
The lapdocks seem to be as popular as chrome books.
I see Webtop being phased out on future devices.
As good as the webtop idea was, people still want all the gadgets and will still buy a tablet, netbook/laptop, and a phone, so the Lapdock is pretty obsolete.
It's slower than a netbook, and has less features than a tablet. $150 for the lapdock just for a full screen browser seems out of the question.
It becomes more useful with the Ubuntu mod, but it still has functionality issues.
It's annoying that it's gone now, but in all honesty it wasnt that useful. If you bring a lapdock, you might as well bring a netbook and tether it.

Ubuntu for Android App

On the Indiegogo page for the Ubuntu Edge, you can see a video of a proof of concept for the Ubuntu Desktop.
She used an app on a stock Nexus 4 (if I remember correctly, she says AOSP) and just launch it like that on Android and sent it to the screen.
Am I the only one who find this more amazing than running Ubuntu Touch on a Android phone ?
If you take a look at the size of the ARM Ubuntu version, you have a 500 MB file and I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
Cheers.

Korgall said:
I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
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As you point out, the video demonstrates a fully functional version of Ubuntu for Android. In the IRC channel, Ubuntu VP of engineering stated that U4A requires the Android OS to be modified slightly. I'm hopeful this process is unveiled soon and U4A becomes publicly available. It likely won't be very smooth on current commercially available hardware, and there's not really enough storage on an N4 to make it very practical, but it would still be nice to get a glimpse of computing convergence.

Thank you for your answer, is there any way to have access to this discussion ?
It seems pretty smooth on the video, which is surprising when you know the current hardware limitation on Android ...
For the storage, the cloud allows you to only download the file you need so it might not really be a problem.
I'm currently thinking about building a NAS to use it as a storage and download platform, it might be a custom solution for this problem.

Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
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Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!

Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en

zacthespack said:
Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
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Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
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Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
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Your link is not valid and I didn't find anything on the Play Store with the name Ubuntu.

illgodson said:
Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Korgall said:
Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself

Nice thank you gonna give it a try tonight.
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?

This is Relevant To My Interests

Im interested. Hope this gets updated soon
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zacthespack said:
This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
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You're a genius :good:

hp420 said:
the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
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Currently its just 12.04 on Ubuntus side as we aimed to make alot of changes for our 13 release, but its coming

So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake

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So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!

zacthespack said:
For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Okay, cool. I am extremely interested in this and I am a developer as well, so if there is anything you need tested or anything I can help you work on, please let me know.
I have a rooted Nexus 4 with sock jelly bean on it. I have played with installing Ubuntu Phone on it a few months back, but went back to android as I felt extremely limited in Ubuntu Phone.
I have the SlimPort® SP1002 from Amazon coming today. As I said before I would love to run it without the lag of VNC. Convergence is my main goal and I am so excited about Edge, but I want the Ubuntu for Android app for my Nexus 4 that I saw Leann talk about being already ready toady. Any idea of where/when we can get it?

zacthespack said:
For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Will you implement native chroot at some point too?

So now that the Ubuntu Edge campaign has failed, if/when do you think they will release Ubuntu for Android? I am going to get the new Nexus (Nexus 5?) and hopefully they will have it released for that phone.